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Well that's what I was thinking about the milk jugs. And really I was
surprised that she mentioned it, because it really seemed below her
order of things to offer the suggestion. Plus, the idea is to keep the
interior as un- cluttered ans possible. That's why I'm thinking on
going with a couple of thin line 5 gal. heavy plastic containers with
either an electric or air pump and using a shower nozzle for supply.

Yes, keep the drinking water in the cooler!


Nothing wrong with gallon milk jugs, and a lot right with them.
I've had plastic milk jugs full of water bounce around in my car trunk
for years. They're tough enough.
Big advantage is they're square, so don't waste space like a bunch or
little round bottles.
Just have to make sure they fit in your cooler.
Shower bags are fine too, and collapsing as they shed water is an
advantage. But you need a larger intial space, and can't store in nooks
and crannies like you can with milk jugs.
Your wife has common sense. That's also a plus.

"Tim" wrote in message
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On Mar 30, 3:28 pm, hk wrote:
On 3/30/10 4:02 PM, Tim wrote:

Yeah, I ahve some jerry cans but they're to heavy, but I couldn't
believe it when the wife said we could carry some fresh water in
gallon milk jugs (huh?) but sounds good to me.

Plastic milk jugs are made of very thin-walled plastic, and can't take
much of a hit before they puncture. Why not buy two six packs of one
pint water bottles, save the bottles as you drink the water, and then
wash them off and refill them?

My little Parker has a 20 or 25 gallon insulated baitwell under the
pedestal seats. But when I have live bait, I keep it in a separate
baitwell, which means the bigger baitwell is available for use as a
cooler. I dump a couple bags of ice in it and stow drinks in it. At the
end of the day, I simply pull the unopened drinks out and let the
baitwell drain on its own accord. I keep my refilled water bottles in
there.

I also have a few igloo coolers of various sizes, and typically take one
of the smaller ones aboard for food storage.

--http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym

Well that's what I was thinking about the milk jugs. And really I was
surprised that she mentioned it, because it really seemed below her
order of things to offer the suggestion. Plus, the idea is to keep the
interior as un- cluttered ans possible. That's why I'm thinking on
going with a couple of thin line 5 gal. heavy plastic containers with
either an electric or air pump and using a shower nozzle for supply.

Yes, keep the drinking water in the cooler!

--------

We freeze gallon jugs of juice and milk for camping and boating trips (also
chicken and meat) and use this to keep other (non frozen) foods cold. We use
everything as it thaws and this saves on ice and cuts out the water pooling
in the bottom of the coolers..

On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:09:08 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

OK, so I'm trying to get everything in order with my 23' Marquis and
put some creature comforts in it. I plan on using a battery isolator
and I'd thought of installing an 8-D battery, but there goes about 130
lb.s in one solid chunk, so I'm opting for a couple or three extra car
batteries which will add up to about the same weight if not a bit
more, but I can distribute them around the hull for a better balance.
Plus, I'm taking a friends Min Kota 24 v. troller for 'emergency use'
in case something might happen to the engine or drive. Therefore I can
switch a couple batteries around into series to make 24 for the
troller. It won't be much but it might help us to make it into
somewhere or out of the way of something heavy if need be.

I have a Nord refrigerator that got taken out of a camper that runs
on 12v.or 120vac. I bought it for cold drinking water, juice etc. and
it was cheap enough. OK so there's another 50lbs.. Plus I'm adding
about 6 -12 gal. of fresh water in a plastic canister like for an
outboard gas tank which will be supplied by an electric pump to a
hand held shower head. I figure I'm adding about 300 + lb of extra
gear to an already heavy hull, (Not counting anchor) but the boat
has a weight load on the spec tag of 950 lb.

Now I'm trying o figure out the best weight distribution formulas to
make it easier on the boat concerning handling, fuel economy (Proper
prop and trim tabs comes next) etc.

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention I'm thinking on adding an extra 10 gallon
fuel tank out of a derelict boat I stripped out for parts.

And with all that , plus the wife and myself, I'm figuring to still be
under the weight limit on the boat.

How long are you planning to be out for one trip? A good cooler will keep stuff
cold for four or five days, and weigh a lot less than 50 pounds (empty).
--
John H

For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v

On Mar 30, 1:21*pm, John H wrote:
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:09:08 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
OK, so I'm trying to get everything in order with my 23' Marquis and
put some creature comforts in it. I plan on using a battery isolator
and I'd thought of installing an 8-D battery, but there goes about 130
lb.s in one solid chunk, so I'm opting for a couple or three extra car
batteries which will add up to about the same weight if not a bit
more, *but I can distribute them around the hull for a better balance.
Plus, I'm taking a friends Min Kota 24 v. troller for 'emergency use'
in case something might happen to the engine or drive. Therefore I can
switch a couple batteries around into series to make 24 for the
troller. It won't be much but it might help us to make it into
somewhere or out of the way of something heavy if need be.

I have a Nord refrigerator that got taken out of a camper that runs
on 12v.or 120vac. I bought it for cold drinking water, juice etc. and
it was cheap enough. OK so there's another 50lbs.. Plus I'm adding
about 6 -12 gal. of fresh water in a plastic canister like for an
outboard gas tank which will be supplied by an *electric pump to a
hand held shower head. *I figure I'm adding about 300 + *lb of extra
gear to an already heavy hull, (Not counting anchor) *but the boat
has a weight load *on the spec tag of 950 lb.

Now *I'm trying o figure out the best weight distribution formulas to
make it easier on the boat concerning handling, fuel economy (Proper
prop and trim tabs *comes next) etc.

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention I'm thinking on adding an extra 10 gallon
fuel tank out of a derelict boat I stripped out for parts.

And with all that , plus the wife and myself, I'm figuring to still be
under the weight limit on the boat.

How long are you planning to be out for one trip? A good cooler will keep stuff
cold for four or five days, and weigh a lot less than 50 pounds (empty).
--
John H

For a great time, go here first...http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v- Hide quoted text -

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I moved my battery up to the front but it's not without it's flaws.
The front takes a good deal more banging around and I've discovered
that cheaper batteries won't tolerate it. You end up with a dead cell
because the plates got knocked together.

On Mar 30, 1:04*pm, jamesgangnc wrote:
On Mar 30, 1:21*pm, John H wrote:





On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:09:08 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
OK, so I'm trying to get everything in order with my 23' Marquis and
put some creature comforts in it. I plan on using a battery isolator
and I'd thought of installing an 8-D battery, but there goes about 130
lb.s in one solid chunk, so I'm opting for a couple or three extra car
batteries which will add up to about the same weight if not a bit
more, *but I can distribute them around the hull for a better balance.
Plus, I'm taking a friends Min Kota 24 v. troller for 'emergency use'
in case something might happen to the engine or drive. Therefore I can
switch a couple batteries around into series to make 24 for the
troller. It won't be much but it might help us to make it into
somewhere or out of the way of something heavy if need be.

I have a Nord refrigerator that got taken out of a camper that runs
on 12v.or 120vac. I bought it for cold drinking water, juice etc. and
it was cheap enough. OK so there's another 50lbs.. Plus I'm adding
about 6 -12 gal. of fresh water in a plastic canister like for an
outboard gas tank which will be supplied by an *electric pump to a
hand held shower head. *I figure I'm adding about 300 + *lb of extra
gear to an already heavy hull, (Not counting anchor) *but the boat
has a weight load *on the spec tag of 950 lb.

Now *I'm trying o figure out the best weight distribution formulas to
make it easier on the boat concerning handling, fuel economy (Proper
prop and trim tabs *comes next) etc.

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention I'm thinking on adding an extra 10 gallon
fuel tank out of a derelict boat I stripped out for parts.

And with all that , plus the wife and myself, I'm figuring to still be
under the weight limit on the boat.

How long are you planning to be out for one trip? A good cooler will keep stuff
cold for four or five days, and weigh a lot less than 50 pounds (empty)..
--
John H

For a great time, go here first...http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v-Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I moved my battery up to the front but it's not without it's flaws.
The front takes a good deal more banging around and I've discovered
that cheaper batteries won't tolerate it. *You end up with a dead cell
because the plates got knocked together.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I wasn't thinking on moving them all the way up. I want to leave my
ngine battery where it is and at least move a couple auxillaries mid
way. I'm thinking that keeping the majority of the weight in the
center of the boat is the way to go, but it could cause too much of a
nose weight for lower moderate speed planing. or at least that's my
thoughts.

jamesgangnc wrote:
On Mar 30, 1:21 pm, John wrote:

On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:09:08 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

OK, so I'm trying to get everything in order with my 23' Marquis and
put some creature comforts in it. I plan on using a battery isolator
and I'd thought of installing an 8-D battery, but there goes about 130
lb.s in one solid chunk, so I'm opting for a couple or three extra car
batteries which will add up to about the same weight if not a bit
more, but I can distribute them around the hull for a better balance.
Plus, I'm taking a friends Min Kota 24 v. troller for 'emergency use'
in case something might happen to the engine or drive. Therefore I can
switch a couple batteries around into series to make 24 for the
troller. It won't be much but it might help us to make it into
somewhere or out of the way of something heavy if need be.


I have a Nord refrigerator that got taken out of a camper that runs
on 12v.or 120vac. I bought it for cold drinking water, juice etc. and
it was cheap enough. OK so there's another 50lbs.. Plus I'm adding
about 6 -12 gal. of fresh water in a plastic canister like for an
outboard gas tank which will be supplied by an electric pump to a
hand held shower head. I figure I'm adding about 300 + lb of extra
gear to an already heavy hull, (Not counting anchor) but the boat
has a weight load on the spec tag of 950 lb.


Now I'm trying o figure out the best weight distribution formulas to
make it easier on the boat concerning handling, fuel economy (Proper
prop and trim tabs comes next) etc.


Oh yeah, I forgot to mention I'm thinking on adding an extra 10 gallon
fuel tank out of a derelict boat I stripped out for parts.


And with all that , plus the wife and myself, I'm figuring to still be
under the weight limit on the boat.

How long are you planning to be out for one trip? A good cooler will keep stuff
cold for four or five days, and weigh a lot less than 50 pounds (empty).
--
John H

For a great time, go here first...http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I moved my battery up to the front but it's not without it's flaws.
The front takes a good deal more banging around and I've discovered
that cheaper batteries won't tolerate it. You end up with a dead cell
because the plates got knocked together.

Maybe a Gel battery will solve that problem?

On Mar 30, 11:21*am, John H wrote:
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:09:08 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
OK, so I'm trying to get everything in order with my 23' Marquis and
put some creature comforts in it. I plan on using a battery isolator
and I'd thought of installing an 8-D battery, but there goes about 130
lb.s in one solid chunk, so I'm opting for a couple or three extra car
batteries which will add up to about the same weight if not a bit
more, *but I can distribute them around the hull for a better balance.
Plus, I'm taking a friends Min Kota 24 v. troller for 'emergency use'
in case something might happen to the engine or drive. Therefore I can
switch a couple batteries around into series to make 24 for the
troller. It won't be much but it might help us to make it into
somewhere or out of the way of something heavy if need be.

I have a Nord refrigerator that got taken out of a camper that runs
on 12v.or 120vac. I bought it for cold drinking water, juice etc. and
it was cheap enough. OK so there's another 50lbs.. Plus I'm adding
about 6 -12 gal. of fresh water in a plastic canister like for an
outboard gas tank which will be supplied by an *electric pump to a
hand held shower head. *I figure I'm adding about 300 + *lb of extra
gear to an already heavy hull, (Not counting anchor) *but the boat
has a weight load *on the spec tag of 950 lb.

Now *I'm trying o figure out the best weight distribution formulas to
make it easier on the boat concerning handling, fuel economy (Proper
prop and trim tabs *comes next) etc.

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention I'm thinking on adding an extra 10 gallon
fuel tank out of a derelict boat I stripped out for parts.

And with all that , plus the wife and myself, I'm figuring to still be
under the weight limit on the boat.

How long are you planning to be out for one trip? A good cooler will keep stuff
cold for four or five days, and weigh a lot less than 50 pounds (empty).
--
John H

For a great time, go here first...http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

John, that's to be determined yet. possibly 200 miles and maybe 3-4
days. In another thread I brought this up about using dry ice in a
cooler, because to me it's repulsive to have food stuffs float around
in ice water even if you use those little resealable containers.and
I've found out from in the past that if the upper part of the
container is exposed to air in the cooler it's not really cold.

On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 12:59:16 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Mar 30, 11:21*am, John H wrote:
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:09:08 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
OK, so I'm trying to get everything in order with my 23' Marquis and
put some creature comforts in it. I plan on using a battery isolator
and I'd thought of installing an 8-D battery, but there goes about 130
lb.s in one solid chunk, so I'm opting for a couple or three extra car
batteries which will add up to about the same weight if not a bit
more, *but I can distribute them around the hull for a better balance.
Plus, I'm taking a friends Min Kota 24 v. troller for 'emergency use'
in case something might happen to the engine or drive. Therefore I can
switch a couple batteries around into series to make 24 for the
troller. It won't be much but it might help us to make it into
somewhere or out of the way of something heavy if need be.

I have a Nord refrigerator that got taken out of a camper that runs
on 12v.or 120vac. I bought it for cold drinking water, juice etc. and
it was cheap enough. OK so there's another 50lbs.. Plus I'm adding
about 6 -12 gal. of fresh water in a plastic canister like for an
outboard gas tank which will be supplied by an *electric pump to a
hand held shower head. *I figure I'm adding about 300 + *lb of extra
gear to an already heavy hull, (Not counting anchor) *but the boat
has a weight load *on the spec tag of 950 lb.

Now *I'm trying o figure out the best weight distribution formulas to
make it easier on the boat concerning handling, fuel economy (Proper
prop and trim tabs *comes next) etc.

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention I'm thinking on adding an extra 10 gallon
fuel tank out of a derelict boat I stripped out for parts.

And with all that , plus the wife and myself, I'm figuring to still be
under the weight limit on the boat.

How long are you planning to be out for one trip? A good cooler will keep stuff
cold for four or five days, and weigh a lot less than 50 pounds (empty).
--
John H

For a great time, go here first...http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

John, that's to be determined yet. possibly 200 miles and maybe 3-4
days. In another thread I brought this up about using dry ice in a
cooler, because to me it's repulsive to have food stuffs float around
in ice water even if you use those little resealable containers.and
I've found out from in the past that if the upper part of the
container is exposed to air in the cooler it's not really cold.

Draining the water prevents stuff from floating around. :)
--
John H

For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v

On Mar 31, 6:12*pm, John H wrote:
On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 12:59:16 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Mar 30, 11:21 am, John H wrote:
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:09:08 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
OK, so I'm trying to get everything in order with my 23' Marquis and
put some creature comforts in it. I plan on using a battery isolator
and I'd thought of installing an 8-D battery, but there goes about 130
lb.s in one solid chunk, so I'm opting for a couple or three extra car
batteries which will add up to about the same weight if not a bit
more, but I can distribute them around the hull for a better balance.
Plus, I'm taking a friends Min Kota 24 v. troller for 'emergency use'
in case something might happen to the engine or drive. Therefore I can
switch a couple batteries around into series to make 24 for the
troller. It won't be much but it might help us to make it into
somewhere or out of the way of something heavy if need be.

I have a Nord refrigerator that got taken out of a camper that runs
on 12v.or 120vac. I bought it for cold drinking water, juice etc. and
it was cheap enough. OK so there's another 50lbs.. Plus I'm adding
about 6 -12 gal. of fresh water in a plastic canister like for an
outboard gas tank which will be supplied by an electric pump to a
hand held shower head. I figure I'm adding about 300 + lb of extra
gear to an already heavy hull, (Not counting anchor) but the boat
has a weight load on the spec tag of 950 lb.

Now I'm trying o figure out the best weight distribution formulas to
make it easier on the boat concerning handling, fuel economy (Proper
prop and trim tabs comes next) etc.

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention I'm thinking on adding an extra 10 gallon
fuel tank out of a derelict boat I stripped out for parts.

And with all that , plus the wife and myself, I'm figuring to still be
under the weight limit on the boat.

How long are you planning to be out for one trip? A good cooler will keep stuff
cold for four or five days, and weigh a lot less than 50 pounds (empty).
--
John H

For a great time, go here first...http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v-Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

John, that's to be determined yet. possibly 200 miles and maybe 3-4
days. In another thread I brought this up about using dry ice in a
cooler, because to me it's repulsive to have food stuffs float around
in ice water even if you use those little resealable containers.and
I've found out from in the past that if the upper part of the
container is exposed to air in the cooler it's not really cold.

Draining the water prevents stuff from floating around. :)
--
John H

For a great time, go here first...http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v

Agreed, John. but there also goes a lot of the cold down the drain,
too!

On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 20:44:58 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Mar 31, 6:12*pm, John H wrote:
On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 12:59:16 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Mar 30, 11:21 am, John H wrote:
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:09:08 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
OK, so I'm trying to get everything in order with my 23' Marquis and
put some creature comforts in it. I plan on using a battery isolator
and I'd thought of installing an 8-D battery, but there goes about 130
lb.s in one solid chunk, so I'm opting for a couple or three extra car
batteries which will add up to about the same weight if not a bit
more, but I can distribute them around the hull for a better balance.
Plus, I'm taking a friends Min Kota 24 v. troller for 'emergency use'
in case something might happen to the engine or drive. Therefore I can
switch a couple batteries around into series to make 24 for the
troller. It won't be much but it might help us to make it into
somewhere or out of the way of something heavy if need be.

I have a Nord refrigerator that got taken out of a camper that runs
on 12v.or 120vac. I bought it for cold drinking water, juice etc. and
it was cheap enough. OK so there's another 50lbs.. Plus I'm adding
about 6 -12 gal. of fresh water in a plastic canister like for an
outboard gas tank which will be supplied by an electric pump to a
hand held shower head. I figure I'm adding about 300 + lb of extra
gear to an already heavy hull, (Not counting anchor) but the boat
has a weight load on the spec tag of 950 lb.

Now I'm trying o figure out the best weight distribution formulas to
make it easier on the boat concerning handling, fuel economy (Proper
prop and trim tabs comes next) etc.

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention I'm thinking on adding an extra 10 gallon
fuel tank out of a derelict boat I stripped out for parts.

And with all that , plus the wife and myself, I'm figuring to still be
under the weight limit on the boat.

How long are you planning to be out for one trip? A good cooler will keep stuff
cold for four or five days, and weigh a lot less than 50 pounds (empty).
--
John H

For a great time, go here first...http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v-Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

John, that's to be determined yet. possibly 200 miles and maybe 3-4
days. In another thread I brought this up about using dry ice in a
cooler, because to me it's repulsive to have food stuffs float around
in ice water even if you use those little resealable containers.and
I've found out from in the past that if the upper part of the
container is exposed to air in the cooler it's not really cold.

Draining the water prevents stuff from floating around. :)
--
John H

For a great time, go here first...http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v

Agreed, John. but there also goes a lot of the cold down the drain,
too!

Actually, I don't have the water problem because I use frozen plastic bottles
full of water. But, I have a freezer which makes this an easy thing to do. They
last quite a while before the ice is completely melted. At that point you'd be
forced to go to bagged ice. But, unless you're constantly getting in and out of
a cooler, those bottles should keep things cold for more than a couple days.
--
John H

For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v