On Mar 30, 9:41*pm, wrote:
On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 12:59:16 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

John, that's to be determined yet. possibly 200 miles and maybe 3-4
days. In another thread I brought this up about using dry ice in a
cooler, because to me it's repulsive to have food stuffs float around
in ice water even if you use those little resealable containers.and
I've found out from in the past that if the upper part of the
container is exposed to air in the cooler it's not really cold.

One of our hurricane tricks is to stuff the freezer with bottles of
water before the show, then you have mass that takes a long time to
thaw out, when the power goes out. That gives you plenty of "cold" and
when they melt you still have bottles of water. These bottles are also
great in a cooler for all the same reasons. You also don't have that
slimy water sloshing around. You can put your perishables in the
bottom and stack the frozen bottles on top.

Excellent idea Greg. I had previously thought of that, only
experimenting with half gal. jugs.to line the top of a cooler. I've
also got a bunch of ice substitute freeze blocks.

"Tim" wrote in message
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On Mar 30, 9:41 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 12:59:16 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

John, that's to be determined yet. possibly 200 miles and maybe 3-4
days. In another thread I brought this up about using dry ice in a
cooler, because to me it's repulsive to have food stuffs float around
in ice water even if you use those little resealable containers.and
I've found out from in the past that if the upper part of the
container is exposed to air in the cooler it's not really cold.

One of our hurricane tricks is to stuff the freezer with bottles of
water before the show, then you have mass that takes a long time to
thaw out, when the power goes out. That gives you plenty of "cold" and
when they melt you still have bottles of water. These bottles are also
great in a cooler for all the same reasons. You also don't have that
slimy water sloshing around. You can put your perishables in the
bottom and stack the frozen bottles on top.

Excellent idea Greg. I had previously thought of that, only
experimenting with half gal. jugs.to line the top of a cooler. I've
also got a bunch of ice substitute freeze blocks.

My cooler will keep ice 5 days, as long as you do not open it a lot. I
always use frozen water bottles, both small and 2L size. Use 2 coolers. A
large one with the frozen stuff and a smaller one which you keep drinks and
stuff for the day in. Then the large one gets opened very few times.

In article bc0512fe-d20e-4f71-b23d-
, says...

On Mar 30, 9:41*pm, wrote:
On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 12:59:16 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

John, that's to be determined yet. possibly 200 miles and maybe 3-4
days. In another thread I brought this up about using dry ice in a
cooler, because to me it's repulsive to have food stuffs float around
in ice water even if you use those little resealable containers.and
I've found out from in the past that if the upper part of the
container is exposed to air in the cooler it's not really cold.

One of our hurricane tricks is to stuff the freezer with bottles of
water before the show, then you have mass that takes a long time to
thaw out, when the power goes out. That gives you plenty of "cold" and
when they melt you still have bottles of water. These bottles are also
great in a cooler for all the same reasons. You also don't have that
slimy water sloshing around. You can put your perishables in the
bottom and stack the frozen bottles on top.

Excellent idea Greg. I had previously thought of that, only
experimenting with half gal. jugs.to line the top of a cooler. I've
also got a bunch of ice substitute freeze blocks.

If you're drinking or otherwise using the water, go with that.
I've read the freezable chemicals can absorb more heat, but never
noticed a difference in actual use.

On Mar 31, 5:11*am, Peter Prick wrote:
In article bc0512fe-d20e-4f71-b23d-
, says...







On Mar 30, 9:41 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 12:59:16 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

John, that's to be determined yet. possibly 200 miles and maybe 3-4
days. In another thread I brought this up about using dry ice in a
cooler, because to me it's repulsive to have food stuffs float around
in ice water even if you use those little resealable containers.and
I've found out from in the past that if the upper part of the
container is exposed to air in the cooler it's not really cold.

One of our hurricane tricks is to stuff the freezer with bottles of
water before the show, then you have mass that takes a long time to
thaw out, when the power goes out. That gives you plenty of "cold" and
when they melt you still have bottles of water. These bottles are also
great in a cooler for all the same reasons. You also don't have that
slimy water sloshing around. You can put your perishables in the
bottom and stack the frozen bottles on top.

Excellent idea Greg. I had previously thought of that, only
experimenting with half gal. jugs.to line the top of a cooler. I've
also got a bunch of ice substitute freeze blocks.

If you're drinking or otherwise using the water, go with that.
I've read the freezable chemicals can absorb more heat, but never
noticed a difference in actual use.- Hide quoted text -

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Same here. They are compact and from what I've noticed is they do last
a bit longer than regular ice. so I suppose it would be good to put
them in the bottom of the cooler and as Greg suggested put the
perishables in the center then top the cooler with either more ice
packs or botles of frozen water.

On Mar 30, 11:21*am, John H wrote:
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:09:08 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
OK, so I'm trying to get everything in order with my 23' Marquis and
put some creature comforts in it. I plan on using a battery isolator
and I'd thought of installing an 8-D battery, but there goes about 130
lb.s in one solid chunk, so I'm opting for a couple or three extra car
batteries which will add up to about the same weight if not a bit
more, *but I can distribute them around the hull for a better balance.
Plus, I'm taking a friends Min Kota 24 v. troller for 'emergency use'
in case something might happen to the engine or drive. Therefore I can
switch a couple batteries around into series to make 24 for the
troller. It won't be much but it might help us to make it into
somewhere or out of the way of something heavy if need be.

I have a Nord refrigerator that got taken out of a camper that runs
on 12v.or 120vac. I bought it for cold drinking water, juice etc. and
it was cheap enough. OK so there's another 50lbs.. Plus I'm adding
about 6 -12 gal. of fresh water in a plastic canister like for an
outboard gas tank which will be supplied by an *electric pump to a
hand held shower head. *I figure I'm adding about 300 + *lb of extra
gear to an already heavy hull, (Not counting anchor) *but the boat
has a weight load *on the spec tag of 950 lb.

Now *I'm trying o figure out the best weight distribution formulas to
make it easier on the boat concerning handling, fuel economy (Proper
prop and trim tabs *comes next) etc.

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention I'm thinking on adding an extra 10 gallon
fuel tank out of a derelict boat I stripped out for parts.

And with all that , plus the wife and myself, I'm figuring to still be
under the weight limit on the boat.

How long are you planning to be out for one trip? A good cooler will keep stuff
cold for four or five days, and weigh a lot less than 50 pounds (empty).
--
John H

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John, the boat has 'captains' chairs in the front and the pilot side
is ok, but we're thinking on pulling the port side chair and
installing the fridge in it's own dedicatated and insulated cabinet
under it then putting a short chair pedistal and chair on top of it.
Actually from what I can tell this fridge is actually 120v with it's
own built in power inverter to convert from 12 DC to 120 AC. But it's
all self contained and water proof.

This is to utilize the space better instead of having a big cooler or
the fridge hanging out where you have to walk around it or me trip
over it (yes I'm clumsy!) Power is provided to it though the
auxillary batteries and those in turn are charged via a battery
isolator which will feed them and the engine battery off the
alternator. at the refridgerators 3.5 A draw, the auxiallry batteries
should be good to run the fridge over night that is if it doesn't need
to run 24-7, and the least that can happen is the fridge can run the
aux. batteries dead and still leave the engine battery alone. Start
the boat and you charge the engine and aux batteries at the same time.

Anyhow, We'd still be taking a cooler to keep the drinking water and
juice etc in and the food stuffs in the ice box.

Anyhow, that's my views concerning using a 12v refridgerator instead
of a cooler for main stay refridgeration.

Oh yeah, If we can hhole up at a marina with shore power for a night,
we can plug the box right in at the dock.

On Mar 30, 11:21*am, John H wrote:

How long are you planning to be out for one trip?

John, the length of the trip may be determined by the weight of the
credit card.

?;^ Q

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:09:08 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

OK, so I'm trying to get everything in order with my 23' Marquis and
put some creature comforts in it. I plan on using a battery isolator
and I'd thought of installing an 8-D battery, but there goes about 130
lb.s in one solid chunk, so I'm opting for a couple or three extra car
batteries which will add up to about the same weight if not a bit
more, but I can distribute them around the hull for a better balance.
Plus, I'm taking a friends Min Kota 24 v. troller for 'emergency use'
in case something might happen to the engine or drive. Therefore I can
switch a couple batteries around into series to make 24 for the
troller. It won't be much but it might help us to make it into
somewhere or out of the way of something heavy if need be.

I have a Nord refrigerator that got taken out of a camper that runs
on 12v.or 120vac. I bought it for cold drinking water, juice etc. and
it was cheap enough. OK so there's another 50lbs.. Plus I'm adding
about 6 -12 gal. of fresh water in a plastic canister like for an
outboard gas tank which will be supplied by an electric pump to a
hand held shower head. I figure I'm adding about 300 + lb of extra
gear to an already heavy hull, (Not counting anchor) but the boat
has a weight load on the spec tag of 950 lb.

Now I'm trying o figure out the best weight distribution formulas to
make it easier on the boat concerning handling, fuel economy (Proper
prop and trim tabs comes next) etc.

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention I'm thinking on adding an extra 10 gallon
fuel tank out of a derelict boat I stripped out for parts.

And with all that , plus the wife and myself, I'm figuring to still be
under the weight limit on the boat.

How long are you planning to be out for one trip? A good cooler will keep stuff
cold for four or five days, and weigh a lot less than 50 pounds (empty).

I have great coolers and they are good for a day and a half maybe unless
you keep filling the ice. I don't know where you use your coolers but I
am out in 95 degree sun and very little shade in the summer, kind of
like in a boat

Scotty

--
For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v

"I am Tosk" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:09:08 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

OK, so I'm trying to get everything in order with my 23' Marquis and
put some creature comforts in it. I plan on using a battery isolator
and I'd thought of installing an 8-D battery, but there goes about 130
lb.s in one solid chunk, so I'm opting for a couple or three extra car
batteries which will add up to about the same weight if not a bit
more, but I can distribute them around the hull for a better balance.
Plus, I'm taking a friends Min Kota 24 v. troller for 'emergency use'
in case something might happen to the engine or drive. Therefore I can
switch a couple batteries around into series to make 24 for the
troller. It won't be much but it might help us to make it into
somewhere or out of the way of something heavy if need be.

I have a Nord refrigerator that got taken out of a camper that runs
on 12v.or 120vac. I bought it for cold drinking water, juice etc. and
it was cheap enough. OK so there's another 50lbs.. Plus I'm adding
about 6 -12 gal. of fresh water in a plastic canister like for an
outboard gas tank which will be supplied by an electric pump to a
hand held shower head. I figure I'm adding about 300 + lb of extra
gear to an already heavy hull, (Not counting anchor) but the boat
has a weight load on the spec tag of 950 lb.

Now I'm trying o figure out the best weight distribution formulas to
make it easier on the boat concerning handling, fuel economy (Proper
prop and trim tabs comes next) etc.

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention I'm thinking on adding an extra 10 gallon
fuel tank out of a derelict boat I stripped out for parts.

And with all that , plus the wife and myself, I'm figuring to still be
under the weight limit on the boat.

How long are you planning to be out for one trip? A good cooler will keep
stuff
cold for four or five days, and weigh a lot less than 50 pounds (empty).

I have great coolers and they are good for a day and a half maybe unless
you keep filling the ice. I don't know where you use your coolers but I
am out in 95 degree sun and very little shade in the summer, kind of
like in a boat

Scotty

--
For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v

Scotty,
Ever use one of those folding canopies? If there is room at the track, these
things are great for keeping people and coolers - cooler than sitting in
direct sun.
We use one anytime we're at an outdoor event (like birthday parties at the
beach) and it's a life saver. Ours has the folding frame and rollup screen
walls to keep the bugs out in the evenings.

In article m,
says...

"I am Tosk" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:09:08 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

OK, so I'm trying to get everything in order with my 23' Marquis and
put some creature comforts in it. I plan on using a battery isolator
and I'd thought of installing an 8-D battery, but there goes about 130
lb.s in one solid chunk, so I'm opting for a couple or three extra car
batteries which will add up to about the same weight if not a bit
more, but I can distribute them around the hull for a better balance.
Plus, I'm taking a friends Min Kota 24 v. troller for 'emergency use'
in case something might happen to the engine or drive. Therefore I can
switch a couple batteries around into series to make 24 for the
troller. It won't be much but it might help us to make it into
somewhere or out of the way of something heavy if need be.

I have a Nord refrigerator that got taken out of a camper that runs
on 12v.or 120vac. I bought it for cold drinking water, juice etc. and
it was cheap enough. OK so there's another 50lbs.. Plus I'm adding
about 6 -12 gal. of fresh water in a plastic canister like for an
outboard gas tank which will be supplied by an electric pump to a
hand held shower head. I figure I'm adding about 300 + lb of extra
gear to an already heavy hull, (Not counting anchor) but the boat
has a weight load on the spec tag of 950 lb.

Now I'm trying o figure out the best weight distribution formulas to
make it easier on the boat concerning handling, fuel economy (Proper
prop and trim tabs comes next) etc.

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention I'm thinking on adding an extra 10 gallon
fuel tank out of a derelict boat I stripped out for parts.

And with all that , plus the wife and myself, I'm figuring to still be
under the weight limit on the boat.

How long are you planning to be out for one trip? A good cooler will keep
stuff
cold for four or five days, and weigh a lot less than 50 pounds (empty).

I have great coolers and they are good for a day and a half maybe unless
you keep filling the ice. I don't know where you use your coolers but I
am out in 95 degree sun and very little shade in the summer, kind of
like in a boat

Scotty

--
For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v

Scotty,
Ever use one of those folding canopies? If there is room at the track, these
things are great for keeping people and coolers - cooler than sitting in
direct sun.
We use one anytime we're at an outdoor event (like birthday parties at the
beach) and it's a life saver. Ours has the folding frame and rollup screen
walls to keep the bugs out in the evenings.

Yes, I do have one with the sides too but somethimes it's just over
there and the cooler is over here for now I am not sure how long you
have been reading but my daughter, I and our race team spend weekends
out in the middle of nowhere, usually on top of some dusty old hill,
rain, mud, whatever, and we go racin' dirtbikes! Sounds funny, but
sometimes you don't even have time to worry about if the cooler is being
moved all day out of the sun Most times actually, the big one stays
right in the back of the truck so that get's real hot during the day,
but we try. My new coleman, huge thing like four feet wide, does a bit
better than our older coolers, I bet if I kept it out of direct sunlight
it could keep ice a few days...

Scotty

--
For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v

"I am Tosk" wrote in message
...
In article m,
says...

"I am Tosk" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:09:08 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

OK, so I'm trying to get everything in order with my 23' Marquis and
put some creature comforts in it. I plan on using a battery isolator
and I'd thought of installing an 8-D battery, but there goes about
130
lb.s in one solid chunk, so I'm opting for a couple or three extra
car
batteries which will add up to about the same weight if not a bit
more, but I can distribute them around the hull for a better
balance.
Plus, I'm taking a friends Min Kota 24 v. troller for 'emergency use'
in case something might happen to the engine or drive. Therefore I
can
switch a couple batteries around into series to make 24 for the
troller. It won't be much but it might help us to make it into
somewhere or out of the way of something heavy if need be.

I have a Nord refrigerator that got taken out of a camper that runs
on 12v.or 120vac. I bought it for cold drinking water, juice etc. and
it was cheap enough. OK so there's another 50lbs.. Plus I'm adding
about 6 -12 gal. of fresh water in a plastic canister like for an
outboard gas tank which will be supplied by an electric pump to a
hand held shower head. I figure I'm adding about 300 + lb of extra
gear to an already heavy hull, (Not counting anchor) but the boat
has a weight load on the spec tag of 950 lb.

Now I'm trying o figure out the best weight distribution formulas to
make it easier on the boat concerning handling, fuel economy (Proper
prop and trim tabs comes next) etc.

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention I'm thinking on adding an extra 10
gallon
fuel tank out of a derelict boat I stripped out for parts.

And with all that , plus the wife and myself, I'm figuring to still
be
under the weight limit on the boat.

How long are you planning to be out for one trip? A good cooler will
keep
stuff
cold for four or five days, and weigh a lot less than 50 pounds
(empty).

I have great coolers and they are good for a day and a half maybe
unless
you keep filling the ice. I don't know where you use your coolers but I
am out in 95 degree sun and very little shade in the summer, kind of
like in a boat

Scotty

--
For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v

Scotty,
Ever use one of those folding canopies? If there is room at the track,
these
things are great for keeping people and coolers - cooler than sitting in
direct sun.
We use one anytime we're at an outdoor event (like birthday parties at
the
beach) and it's a life saver. Ours has the folding frame and rollup
screen
walls to keep the bugs out in the evenings.

Yes, I do have one with the sides too but somethimes it's just over
there and the cooler is over here for now I am not sure how long you
have been reading but my daughter, I and our race team spend weekends
out in the middle of nowhere, usually on top of some dusty old hill,
rain, mud, whatever, and we go racin' dirtbikes! Sounds funny, but
sometimes you don't even have time to worry about if the cooler is being
moved all day out of the sun Most times actually, the big one stays
right in the back of the truck so that get's real hot during the day,
but we try. My new coleman, huge thing like four feet wide, does a bit
better than our older coolers, I bet if I kept it out of direct sunlight
it could keep ice a few days...

Scotty

--
For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v

For some reason I was thinking track racing like MX where you would have
your own pit area with a nice recliner (folding) for dad to rest in the
shade and pull mechanic duties when required....ha!.