On 3/23/10 9:18 PM, Eisboch wrote:


Sounds like the type that was on the last boat I had and had to replace.
Big honking hoses.
The engines were the MercCruiser (GM) 454ci and the hoses that ran from the
risers to the
mufflers were either 4" or 6" diameter. (can't remember). The boat yard
where I bought the
boat located and installed them. I never liked that boat. Sold it. Now
boatless. Miss the Navigator.

Eisboch



Considering your previous taste in boats, I never could figure out why
you bought that last boat. I would have kept the little GB if it were in
good shape, since it seemed well-found and also satisfied your need for
creature comforts when "bach'ing" it.

There were a few American Tugs or whatever that other brand is for sale
at a local boatyard. Looked lightly used. You ever look 'em over?

"hk" wrote in message
m...
On 3/23/10 9:18 PM, Eisboch wrote:


Sounds like the type that was on the last boat I had and had to replace.
Big honking hoses.
The engines were the MercCruiser (GM) 454ci and the hoses that ran from
the
risers to the
mufflers were either 4" or 6" diameter. (can't remember). The boat yard
where I bought the
boat located and installed them. I never liked that boat. Sold it.
Now
boatless. Miss the Navigator.

Eisboch



Considering your previous taste in boats, I never could figure out why you
bought that last boat. I would have kept the little GB if it were in good
shape, since it seemed well-found and also satisfied your need for
creature comforts when "bach'ing" it.

There were a few American Tugs or whatever that other brand is for sale at
a local boatyard. Looked lightly used. You ever look 'em over?



I may start looking around later in the spring. Right now I am too busy to
seriously think about another boat but I am beginning to get the itch again.
I've thought about them but for my boating interests a smaller, trailerable
type boat just won't hack it.

The reason I bought that Mainship Sedan Bridge was because both of the other
boats we owned sold within a couple of weeks of each other, meaning the
Navigator and the 36 GB. My intention was to keep one of them (whichever
didn't sell first) but we received offers that overlapped. Not being 100%
sure that either sale would be consummated (contracts favor the buyer), I
felt it prudent to accept the offers on both boats. As luck would have it,
both passed their respective surveys fine and I was suddenly without a boat
for the first time in about 14 years. The Mainship was in decent shape,
was not huge bucks, so I bought it just to have a boat for that season. But
you are right. It just never grew on me.

I liked the GB a lot. It was a different style of boating and very
relaxing. But, the Navigator was by far my favorite boat. Not the
prettiest boat in the world but built like a small ship, very sea worthy and
very comfortable.

I recently was informed of a 2001, 48' Ocean Yacht Sportsfish that can be
had for short bucks. *Really* short bucks. Owner is a friend of a friend,
in his 70's and just wants to get rid of it. Thought about it, but again,
just ain't my style.

Meanwhile, we still own two slips up here, one for up to a 55 footer and the
other for up to a 36 footer.
We'll probably hold onto them for a while as they generate income due to
seasonal rentals. Slips are hard to come by in MA and if one is in the
market for a slip type boat, the first issue to resolve is to find the slip.

Eisboch

On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 21:58:51 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"hk" wrote in message
om...
On 3/23/10 9:18 PM, Eisboch wrote:


Sounds like the type that was on the last boat I had and had to replace.
Big honking hoses.
The engines were the MercCruiser (GM) 454ci and the hoses that ran from
the
risers to the
mufflers were either 4" or 6" diameter. (can't remember). The boat yard
where I bought the
boat located and installed them. I never liked that boat. Sold it.
Now
boatless. Miss the Navigator.

Eisboch



Considering your previous taste in boats, I never could figure out why you
bought that last boat. I would have kept the little GB if it were in good
shape, since it seemed well-found and also satisfied your need for
creature comforts when "bach'ing" it.

There were a few American Tugs or whatever that other brand is for sale at
a local boatyard. Looked lightly used. You ever look 'em over?



I may start looking around later in the spring. Right now I am too busy to
seriously think about another boat but I am beginning to get the itch again.
I've thought about them but for my boating interests a smaller, trailerable
type boat just won't hack it.

The reason I bought that Mainship Sedan Bridge was because both of the other
boats we owned sold within a couple of weeks of each other, meaning the
Navigator and the 36 GB. My intention was to keep one of them (whichever
didn't sell first) but we received offers that overlapped. Not being 100%
sure that either sale would be consummated (contracts favor the buyer), I
felt it prudent to accept the offers on both boats. As luck would have it,
both passed their respective surveys fine and I was suddenly without a boat
for the first time in about 14 years. The Mainship was in decent shape,
was not huge bucks, so I bought it just to have a boat for that season. But
you are right. It just never grew on me.

I liked the GB a lot. It was a different style of boating and very
relaxing. But, the Navigator was by far my favorite boat. Not the
prettiest boat in the world but built like a small ship, very sea worthy and
very comfortable.

I recently was informed of a 2001, 48' Ocean Yacht Sportsfish that can be
had for short bucks. *Really* short bucks. Owner is a friend of a friend,
in his 70's and just wants to get rid of it. Thought about it, but again,
just ain't my style.

Meanwhile, we still own two slips up here, one for up to a 55 footer and the
other for up to a 36 footer.
We'll probably hold onto them for a while as they generate income due to
seasonal rentals. Slips are hard to come by in MA and if one is in the
market for a slip type boat, the first issue to resolve is to find the slip.

Eisboch

Navigator, big plastic boat. Never liked the lines or the look and
they drop value pretty quick. Somebody was happy with you having paid
the depreciation.

If I were without concern for budget and staying close to shore, I'd
be looking at a Fleming Pilothouse 55 or the Ocean Alexander Mark II,
a pretty boat in that same range but they're hard to come by.

"jps" wrote in message
...

Navigator, big plastic boat. Never liked the lines or the look and
they drop value pretty quick. Somebody was happy with you having paid
the depreciation.



You are entitled to your opinion.

Ever been in one in 8 foot confused seas? Ever seen how they are
constructed?
Ever been in the engine spaces and seen the size of the main stringers and
the general construction and design of the important elements of a boat?
Ever spent 10 hours a day at cruise speed, 30 miles offshore on one? Have
you owned one? Ever spent any serious time underway on one? Have you
piloted one in rough seas? Handled one in close quarter maneuvering? I
suspect not.

Something tells me you don't like them and made your unsolicited comments
simply because I owned one.

I agree they are not "pretty" in the eyes of all, but they are highly
regarded in marine surveyor's circles as being very well designed and built
from a marine engineering point of view. They are basically the same boat
as a Californian Yacht, the original Marshall design and boat line which he
sold and then purchased back a few years ago.

I could recite the main reason I decided to buy one, and the opinions of
seasoned, larger boat owners who were underway on the one I had but I doubt
they would be meaningful to you. I also don't think that the difference in
what I originally paid for it and what I sold it for almost 9 years later
represented an excessive "hit", depreciation-wise. Very few new boats hold
their value well.

Don't quit your day job to become a marine surveyor.

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:
"jps" wrote in message
...
Navigator, big plastic boat. Never liked the lines or the look and
they drop value pretty quick. Somebody was happy with you having paid
the depreciation.



You are entitled to your opinion.

Ever been in one in 8 foot confused seas? Ever seen how they are
constructed?
Ever been in the engine spaces and seen the size of the main stringers and
the general construction and design of the important elements of a boat?
Ever spent 10 hours a day at cruise speed, 30 miles offshore on one? Have
you owned one? Ever spent any serious time underway on one? Have you
piloted one in rough seas? Handled one in close quarter maneuvering? I
suspect not.

Something tells me you don't like them and made your unsolicited comments
simply because I owned one.

I agree they are not "pretty" in the eyes of all, but they are highly
regarded in marine surveyor's circles as being very well designed and built
from a marine engineering point of view. They are basically the same boat
as a Californian Yacht, the original Marshall design and boat line which he
sold and then purchased back a few years ago.

I could recite the main reason I decided to buy one, and the opinions of
seasoned, larger boat owners who were underway on the one I had but I doubt
they would be meaningful to you. I also don't think that the difference in
what I originally paid for it and what I sold it for almost 9 years later
represented an excessive "hit", depreciation-wise. Very few new boats hold
their value well.

Don't quit your day job to become a marine surveyor.

Eisboch

Can you spell T-R-O-L-L ?

On 3/24/10 6:41 AM, D.Duck wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"jps" wrote in message
...
Navigator, big plastic boat. Never liked the lines or the look and
they drop value pretty quick. Somebody was happy with you having paid
the depreciation.



You are entitled to your opinion.

Ever been in one in 8 foot confused seas? Ever seen how they are
constructed?
Ever been in the engine spaces and seen the size of the main stringers
and the general construction and design of the important elements of a
boat? Ever spent 10 hours a day at cruise speed, 30 miles offshore on
one? Have you owned one? Ever spent any serious time underway on one?
Have you piloted one in rough seas? Handled one in close quarter
maneuvering? I suspect not.

Something tells me you don't like them and made your unsolicited
comments simply because I owned one.

I agree they are not "pretty" in the eyes of all, but they are highly
regarded in marine surveyor's circles as being very well designed and
built from a marine engineering point of view. They are basically the
same boat as a Californian Yacht, the original Marshall design and
boat line which he sold and then purchased back a few years ago.

I could recite the main reason I decided to buy one, and the opinions
of seasoned, larger boat owners who were underway on the one I had but
I doubt they would be meaningful to you. I also don't think that the
difference in what I originally paid for it and what I sold it for
almost 9 years later represented an excessive "hit",
depreciation-wise. Very few new boats hold their value well.

Don't quit your day job to become a marine surveyor.

Eisboch

Can you spell T-R-O-L-L ?


Sure. It is spelled D. Duck.

That's about all you do here, quacker...troll.

hk wrote:
On 3/24/10 6:41 AM, D.Duck wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"jps" wrote in message
...
Navigator, big plastic boat. Never liked the lines or the look and
they drop value pretty quick. Somebody was happy with you having paid
the depreciation.



You are entitled to your opinion.

Ever been in one in 8 foot confused seas? Ever seen how they are
constructed?
Ever been in the engine spaces and seen the size of the main stringers
and the general construction and design of the important elements of a
boat? Ever spent 10 hours a day at cruise speed, 30 miles offshore on
one? Have you owned one? Ever spent any serious time underway on one?
Have you piloted one in rough seas? Handled one in close quarter
maneuvering? I suspect not.

Something tells me you don't like them and made your unsolicited
comments simply because I owned one.

I agree they are not "pretty" in the eyes of all, but they are highly
regarded in marine surveyor's circles as being very well designed and
built from a marine engineering point of view. They are basically the
same boat as a Californian Yacht, the original Marshall design and
boat line which he sold and then purchased back a few years ago.

I could recite the main reason I decided to buy one, and the opinions
of seasoned, larger boat owners who were underway on the one I had but
I doubt they would be meaningful to you. I also don't think that the
difference in what I originally paid for it and what I sold it for
almost 9 years later represented an excessive "hit",
depreciation-wise. Very few new boats hold their value well.

Don't quit your day job to become a marine surveyor.

Eisboch

Can you spell T-R-O-L-L ?


Sure. It is spelled D. Duck.

That's about all you do here, quacker...troll.

And 99% of the drivel you post here is what?

"D.Duck" wrote in message
...

Eisboch wrote:

"jps" wrote in message
...

Navigator, big plastic boat. Never liked the lines or the look and
they drop value pretty quick. Somebody was happy with you having paid
the depreciation.


Don't quit your day job to become a marine surveyor.

Eisboch

Can you spell T-R-O-L-L ?


sigh Yep. Even in a genuine, boating related thread. Seems the subject
doesn't matter.
Politics or boating ... all the same to a troll. Insults are their
specialty.

Eisboch

In article ,
says...

"D.Duck" wrote in message
...

Eisboch wrote:

"jps" wrote in message
...

Navigator, big plastic boat. Never liked the lines or the look and
they drop value pretty quick. Somebody was happy with you having paid
the depreciation.


Don't quit your day job to become a marine surveyor.

Eisboch

Can you spell T-R-O-L-L ?


sigh Yep. Even in a genuine, boating related thread. Seems the subject
doesn't matter.
Politics or boating ... all the same to a troll. Insults are their
specialty.

Eisboch

Yeah, Tim and I have talked about that. What do you think it is that
makes almost exclusively the "far left" members of this (and most other
groups I frequent) group so vulgar and determined to destroy any
functioning group they visit?

I mean, you look at the most vulgar here, you have Slammer, Harry, JPS,
spewing every shocking, pathetic, vulgar, insult at anybody that tries
to post here, it's a pattern with the far left, you can't deny it...

Scotty

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On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 07:30:19 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"D.Duck" wrote in message
m...

Eisboch wrote:

"jps" wrote in message
...

Navigator, big plastic boat. Never liked the lines or the look and
they drop value pretty quick. Somebody was happy with you having paid
the depreciation.


Don't quit your day job to become a marine surveyor.

Eisboch

Can you spell T-R-O-L-L ?


sigh Yep. Even in a genuine, boating related thread. Seems the subject
doesn't matter.
Politics or boating ... all the same to a troll. Insults are their
specialty.

Eisboch

Think you're just a bit too sensitive, Richard.