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looking to replace exhaust hose...one section has wire reinforcement,
another hose on other manifold does not. any thoughts? this stuff isn't under much pressure and i think wire can create local hotspots, leading to the wire tearing loose from the hose over time.... engine is 350 merc on a 27' tollycraft |
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On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 19:15:38 -0400, bpuharic wrote:
looking to replace exhaust hose...one section has wire reinforcement, another hose on other manifold does not. any thoughts? this stuff isn't under much pressure and i think wire can create local hotspots, leading to the wire tearing loose from the hose over time.... engine is 350 merc on a 27' tollycraft Hose is rarely attached directly to a manifold - it would get too hot and quickly burn up. Most often it is attached to something called a "riser" or "elbow" which is the point where raw cooling water is injected into the exhaust flow. All of the exhaust hose that I'm familiar with is wire reinforced. It prevents the hose from collapsing when it is bent into a radius. I guess it's possible that if you had a totally straight run you could get by without the reinforcement but I'd talk with an expert before doing that. |
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On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 19:39:55 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote: On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 19:15:38 -0400, bpuharic wrote: looking to replace exhaust hose...one section has wire reinforcement, another hose on other manifold does not. any thoughts? this stuff isn't under much pressure and i think wire can create local hotspots, leading to the wire tearing loose from the hose over time.... engine is 350 merc on a 27' tollycraft Hose is rarely attached directly to a manifold - it would get too hot and quickly burn up. Most often it is attached to something called a "riser" or "elbow" which is the point where raw cooling water is injected into the exhaust flow. yep, the old stuff is connected to the risers.. All of the exhaust hose that I'm familiar with is wire reinforced. It prevents the hose from collapsing when it is bent into a radius. I guess it's possible that if you had a totally straight run you could get by without the reinforcement but I'd talk with an expert before doing that. these are pretty straight runs, but there's no guarantee, i think that, as the hose ages, it couldn't buckle under use... |
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On Mar 23, 5:45*pm, bpuharic wrote:
On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 19:39:55 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 19:15:38 -0400, bpuharic wrote: looking to replace exhaust hose...one section has wire reinforcement, another hose on other manifold does not. any thoughts? this stuff isn't under much pressure and i think wire can create local hotspots, leading to the wire tearing loose from the hose over time.... engine is 350 merc on a 27' tollycraft Hose is rarely attached directly to a manifold - it would get too hot and quickly burn up. *Most often it is attached to something called a "riser" or "elbow" which is the point where raw cooling water is injected into the exhaust flow. * yep, the old stuff is connected to the risers.. All of the exhaust hose that I'm familiar with is wire reinforced. *It prevents the hose from collapsing when it is bent into a radius. *I guess it's possible that if you had a totally straight run you could get by without the reinforcement but I'd talk with an expert before doing that. these are pretty straight runs, but there's no guarantee, i think that, as the hose ages, it couldn't buckle under use...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, consider the heater hoses n a car. Even in an enclosed system like a car, there is usually a nylon webbing embedded inside the hose and not steel mesh. Now on a radiator hose, especialy on the top hose there is usualy a large "spring" fitting on the inside, to keep the hose from collapsing and still make the hose pliable for shaping but rigid enough to keep it from collapsing on cool down. then again we're laking abotu nclosed systems on cars that run 190 degrees too. Bob, if you're running a raw water system I think I'd just the simple stuff with the nylon mesh inside. My hoses on my 350 GM are common from NAPA. even the ones that carry the water to the manifold risers. Now from the manifolds to the outdrive or exhaust ports in the hull, that might be a different issue that I have no knowledge of. |
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On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 17:41:47 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote: Bob, if you're running a raw water system I think I'd just the simple stuff with the nylon mesh inside. My hoses on my 350 GM are common from NAPA. even the ones that carry the water to the manifold risers. Now from the manifolds to the outdrive or exhaust ports in the hull, that might be a different issue that I have no knowledge of. this is actually an inboard (surprising for a 27' boat, but it has a V drive). the marina guy said i could probably get what i need at the autoparts store, but i don't think they're actually any cheaper. these hoses go from the risers to the muffler, then to the exhaust ports. |
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On Mar 23, 6:54*pm, bpuharic wrote:
On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 17:41:47 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: Bob, if you're running a raw water system I think I'd just the simple stuff with the nylon mesh inside. My hoses on my 350 GM are common from NAPA. *even the ones that carry the water to the manifold risers. Now from the manifolds to the outdrive or exhaust ports in the hull, that might be a different issue that I have no knowledge of. this is actually an inboard (surprising for a 27' boat, but it has a V drive). *the marina guy said i could probably get what i need at the autoparts store, but i don't think they're actually any cheaper. these hoses go from the risers to the muffler, then to the exhaust ports. Woah!. OK, thats for some interesting stuff! |
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On Mar 23, 7:54*pm, bpuharic wrote:
On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 17:41:47 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: Bob, if you're running a raw water system I think I'd just the simple stuff with the nylon mesh inside. My hoses on my 350 GM are common from NAPA. *even the ones that carry the water to the manifold risers. Now from the manifolds to the outdrive or exhaust ports in the hull, that might be a different issue that I have no knowledge of. this is actually an inboard (surprising for a 27' boat, but it has a V drive). *the marina guy said i could probably get what i need at the autoparts store, but i don't think they're actually any cheaper. these hoses go from the risers to the muffler, then to the exhaust ports. my 27' Chris Craft had aluminum piping going down from the manifolds and elbowing toward the back. The hoses were short, and about 4-41/2 " in diameter from what I remember, and bulbous in the middle that connected the elbow to the actual exhaust pipe that went to the transom ports. I take it they were shaped that way for flexibility. You couldn't 90 degree them, but you did have some grace. |
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bpuharic wrote:
looking to replace exhaust hose...one section has wire reinforcement, another hose on other manifold does not. any thoughts? this stuff isn't under much pressure and i think wire can create local hotspots, leading to the wire tearing loose from the hose over time.... engine is 350 merc on a 27' tollycraft Run it into the cabin. Light a fatty and wait for the desired effect. |
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On 3/23/10 8:21 PM, Larry wrote:
bpuharic wrote: looking to replace exhaust hose...one section has wire reinforcement, another hose on other manifold does not. any thoughts? this stuff isn't under much pressure and i think wire can create local hotspots, leading to the wire tearing loose from the hose over time.... engine is 350 merc on a 27' tollycraft Run it into the cabin. Light a fatty and wait for the desired effect. Danny Krueger, is that you? |
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On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 20:29:57 -0400, hk
wrote: On 3/23/10 8:21 PM, Larry wrote: bpuharic wrote: looking to replace exhaust hose...one section has wire reinforcement, another hose on other manifold does not. any thoughts? this stuff isn't under much pressure and i think wire can create local hotspots, leading to the wire tearing loose from the hose over time.... engine is 350 merc on a 27' tollycraft Run it into the cabin. Light a fatty and wait for the desired effect. Danny Krueger, is that you? Danny would indicate there's something chidlish about him. He's just a fat **** who loves fast food and working under a strong woman. |
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