On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 12:15:16 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
.. .


You give yourself too much credit. I was moored next to one and
invited aboard for three years.

Wow. Did they let you sit at the helm chair too?

Eisboch

Yes, I grabbed the wheel and went back and forth and said "wheeee"
just to impress the owner, who has sold Microsoft vestment to
purchase.

That boat was for sale a couple of years later for a ****load less
than what he paid. His stock wasn't worth what it once was, neither
was his boat.

"jps" wrote in message
...

I'm 10 to 15 years behind him and on my way to a similar business event
that'll
liquidate my ownership, maybe more or less but that matters not.


When I was 10 to 15 years from my "event" I couldn't imagine it happening
let alone see it coming or plan for it.

You must be smart.

Eisboch

On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 11:42:18 -0400, hk
wrote:

On 3/24/10 8:34 AM, Don White wrote:
wrote in message
m...
On 3/23/10 9:18 PM, Eisboch wrote:


Sounds like the type that was on the last boat I had and had to replace.
Big honking hoses.
The engines were the MercCruiser (GM) 454ci and the hoses that ran from
the
risers to the
mufflers were either 4" or 6" diameter. (can't remember). The boat yard
where I bought the
boat located and installed them. I never liked that boat. Sold it.
Now
boatless. Miss the Navigator.

Eisboch



Considering your previous taste in boats, I never could figure out why you
bought that last boat. I would have kept the little GB if it were in good
shape, since it seemed well-found and also satisfied your need for
creature comforts when "bach'ing" it.

There were a few American Tugs or whatever that other brand is for sale at
a local boatyard. Looked lightly used. You ever look 'em over?

If I could convince the Crown Corp I worked for to double my modest pension,
that's the type of boat I'd take command of.
Up here, we need something seaworthy& comfortable for coastal cruising...
especially with a somewhat short, usually damp, boating season.



I liked the looks of that Navigator...looked "shippy" to me.

As in Disney floating hotel?

D.Duck wrote:
jps wrote:
On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 08:27:30 -0400, hk
wrote:

On 3/24/10 8:26 AM, anon-e-moose wrote:
D.Duck wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"jps" wrote in message
...
Navigator, big plastic boat. Never liked the lines or the look and
they drop value pretty quick. Somebody was happy with you having
paid
the depreciation.


You are entitled to your opinion.

Ever been in one in 8 foot confused seas? Ever seen how they are
constructed?
Ever been in the engine spaces and seen the size of the main
stringers and the general construction and design of the important
elements of a boat? Ever spent 10 hours a day at cruise speed, 30
miles offshore on one? Have you owned one? Ever spent any serious
time underway on one? Have you piloted one in rough seas? Handled one
in close quarter maneuvering? I suspect not.

Something tells me you don't like them and made your unsolicited
comments simply because I owned one.

I agree they are not "pretty" in the eyes of all, but they are highly
regarded in marine surveyor's circles as being very well designed and
built from a marine engineering point of view. They are basically the
same boat as a Californian Yacht, the original Marshall design and
boat line which he sold and then purchased back a few years ago.

I could recite the main reason I decided to buy one, and the opinions
of seasoned, larger boat owners who were underway on the one I had
but I doubt they would be meaningful to you. I also don't think that
the difference in what I originally paid for it and what I sold it
for almost 9 years later represented an excessive "hit",
depreciation-wise. Very few new boats hold their value well.

Don't quit your day job to become a marine surveyor.

Eisboch

Can you spell T-R-O-L-L ?
It's more than that. Eisbock is obviously successful and JPS is Jealous
of the fact.
Anonymous trolls are the worst.

You can tell that the duck keeps a sharp eye on things. So much so
that he doesn't know how to spell Richard's handle.


Read for content, the Duck didn't write that.

Matters not to krawsee. He'll attack anyone that isn't on board with
Oh-bammy's save the unions screw everyone else plan.

On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 12:37:29 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
.. .

I'm 10 to 15 years behind him and on my way to a similar business event
that'll
liquidate my ownership, maybe more or less but that matters not.


When I was 10 to 15 years from my "event" I couldn't imagine it happening
let alone see it coming or plan for it.

You must be smart.

Eisboch

Thanks Richard. Perhaps not as smart as you but I'm still working on
it.

We're in an industry that's getting a lot of attention. Our
technology helps integrate disparate technologies that weren't
designed or engineered to work with others. Silos.

Being able to aggregate technical capabiities from different
manufacturers is attractive to those having to choose the best fit for
specific requirements.

It's reasonable to assume that any number of companies who operate in
this space will find that capability attractive and want to own it or
keep it from the hands of competitors.

I don't care which.

In article ,
says...

"jps" wrote in message
...


You give yourself too much credit. I was moored next to one and
invited aboard for three years.

Wow. Did they let you sit at the helm chair too?

Eisboch

LOL

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hk wrote:
On 3/24/10 12:04 PM, jps wrote:
On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 08:27:30 -0400,
wrote:

On 3/24/10 8:26 AM, anon-e-moose wrote:
D.Duck wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
wrote in message
...
Navigator, big plastic boat. Never liked the lines or the look and
they drop value pretty quick. Somebody was happy with you having
paid
the depreciation.



You are entitled to your opinion.

Ever been in one in 8 foot confused seas? Ever seen how they are
constructed?
Ever been in the engine spaces and seen the size of the main
stringers and the general construction and design of the important
elements of a boat? Ever spent 10 hours a day at cruise speed, 30
miles offshore on one? Have you owned one? Ever spent any serious
time underway on one? Have you piloted one in rough seas? Handled one
in close quarter maneuvering? I suspect not.

Something tells me you don't like them and made your unsolicited
comments simply because I owned one.

I agree they are not "pretty" in the eyes of all, but they are highly
regarded in marine surveyor's circles as being very well designed and
built from a marine engineering point of view. They are basically the
same boat as a Californian Yacht, the original Marshall design and
boat line which he sold and then purchased back a few years ago.

I could recite the main reason I decided to buy one, and the opinions
of seasoned, larger boat owners who were underway on the one I had
but I doubt they would be meaningful to you. I also don't think that
the difference in what I originally paid for it and what I sold it
for almost 9 years later represented an excessive "hit",
depreciation-wise. Very few new boats hold their value well.

Don't quit your day job to become a marine surveyor.

Eisboch

Can you spell T-R-O-L-L ?

It's more than that. Eisbock is obviously successful and JPS is Jealous
of the fact.

Anonymous trolls are the worst.

You can tell that the duck keeps a sharp eye on things. So much so
that he doesn't know how to spell Richard's handle.

There's not much dumber than a duck, unless, of course, it is a
right-wing duck. :)


This duck has two wings and they both function.

In article ,
says...

jps wrote:
On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 08:27:30 -0400, hk
wrote:

On 3/24/10 8:26 AM, anon-e-moose wrote:
D.Duck wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"jps" wrote in message
...
Navigator, big plastic boat. Never liked the lines or the look and
they drop value pretty quick. Somebody was happy with you having paid
the depreciation.


You are entitled to your opinion.

Ever been in one in 8 foot confused seas? Ever seen how they are
constructed?
Ever been in the engine spaces and seen the size of the main
stringers and the general construction and design of the important
elements of a boat? Ever spent 10 hours a day at cruise speed, 30
miles offshore on one? Have you owned one? Ever spent any serious
time underway on one? Have you piloted one in rough seas? Handled one
in close quarter maneuvering? I suspect not.

Something tells me you don't like them and made your unsolicited
comments simply because I owned one.

I agree they are not "pretty" in the eyes of all, but they are highly
regarded in marine surveyor's circles as being very well designed and
built from a marine engineering point of view. They are basically the
same boat as a Californian Yacht, the original Marshall design and
boat line which he sold and then purchased back a few years ago.

I could recite the main reason I decided to buy one, and the opinions
of seasoned, larger boat owners who were underway on the one I had
but I doubt they would be meaningful to you. I also don't think that
the difference in what I originally paid for it and what I sold it
for almost 9 years later represented an excessive "hit",
depreciation-wise. Very few new boats hold their value well.

Don't quit your day job to become a marine surveyor.

Eisboch

Can you spell T-R-O-L-L ?
It's more than that. Eisbock is obviously successful and JPS is Jealous
of the fact.
Anonymous trolls are the worst.

You can tell that the duck keeps a sharp eye on things. So much so
that he doesn't know how to spell Richard's handle.


Read for content, the Duck didn't write that.

Isn't this the same guy who asked Dick if the "guy could only *site*
Navigator"? Pfffft. I love it when the pseudo-intellectuals try to be
spelling cops.

Scotty

--
For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v

On 3/24/10 1:24 PM, D.Duck wrote:
hk wrote:
On 3/24/10 12:04 PM, jps wrote:
On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 08:27:30 -0400,
wrote:

On 3/24/10 8:26 AM, anon-e-moose wrote:
D.Duck wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
wrote in message
...
Navigator, big plastic boat. Never liked the lines or the look and
they drop value pretty quick. Somebody was happy with you having
paid
the depreciation.



You are entitled to your opinion.

Ever been in one in 8 foot confused seas? Ever seen how they are
constructed?
Ever been in the engine spaces and seen the size of the main
stringers and the general construction and design of the important
elements of a boat? Ever spent 10 hours a day at cruise speed, 30
miles offshore on one? Have you owned one? Ever spent any serious
time underway on one? Have you piloted one in rough seas? Handled
one
in close quarter maneuvering? I suspect not.

Something tells me you don't like them and made your unsolicited
comments simply because I owned one.

I agree they are not "pretty" in the eyes of all, but they are
highly
regarded in marine surveyor's circles as being very well designed
and
built from a marine engineering point of view. They are basically
the
same boat as a Californian Yacht, the original Marshall design and
boat line which he sold and then purchased back a few years ago.

I could recite the main reason I decided to buy one, and the
opinions
of seasoned, larger boat owners who were underway on the one I had
but I doubt they would be meaningful to you. I also don't think that
the difference in what I originally paid for it and what I sold it
for almost 9 years later represented an excessive "hit",
depreciation-wise. Very few new boats hold their value well.

Don't quit your day job to become a marine surveyor.

Eisboch

Can you spell T-R-O-L-L ?

It's more than that. Eisbock is obviously successful and JPS is
Jealous
of the fact.

Anonymous trolls are the worst.

You can tell that the duck keeps a sharp eye on things. So much so
that he doesn't know how to spell Richard's handle.

There's not much dumber than a duck, unless, of course, it is a
right-wing duck. :)


This duck has two wings and they both function.


Really? You must keep the other wing hidden.

On 3/24/10 1:26 PM, I am Tosk wrote:

Isn't this the same guy who asked Dick if the "guy could only *site*
Navigator"? Pfffft. I love it when the pseudo-intellectuals try to be
spelling cops.

Scotty


Q. With your pre-existing heart condition and hospital history, how did
you obtain ordinary health insurance, as you claimed here?

A. You didn't.