On Mar 24, 10:47*am, I am Tosk
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On Mar 24, 9:17*am, I am Tosk wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 23/03/2010 6:50 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 11:08:59 -0700, "CalifBill"
*wrote:

How are they going to cut Medicare? *Medicare people vote at a higher
percentage than others. *And they already said they are going to fix the
drug donut hole. *How is that going to reduce costs?

incidentally, on this, the day obama signed the bill...

the stock market jumped more than 100 points to its highest point in 5
weeks.

Market always moves in advance. *Look at last Friday.

But you know squat of investing, so quite the liberal BS. *Go back to
you naitivity and Obama worship.

Debt, who would have thought America would be at war from within with
debt mongers.

China said they would do just that decades ago. They were going to bring
us down "without even firing a shot". The sheeples are following the
idiots in the White House straight to the slaughter. China needs our
land to grow food, and when the collapse comes, they will "save us" or
enslave us. Either way, bend over, change is here.

Scotty

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Pssssst...... want to know where a BIG portion of that China debt came
from?

Don't tell me, George Bush and Rush Limbaugh, right??? And of course
Bush set up all of the devices for decades which led up to this.. Yep,
he was selling out our workforce while still in grade school...
Pfffftttt...

Scotty

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Uh, it WAS George Bush. Borrowed $2.5 Trillion dollars to get the guy
that dissed his daddy.

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On Mar 24, 10:47*am, I am Tosk
wrote:
In article 735fef65-951b-471b-8944-1d99fdb4cac8
@d27g2000yqf.googlegroups.com, says...







On Mar 24, 9:17*am, I am Tosk wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 23/03/2010 6:50 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 11:08:59 -0700, "CalifBill"
*wrote:

How are they going to cut Medicare? *Medicare people vote at a higher
percentage than others. *And they already said they are going to fix the
drug donut hole. *How is that going to reduce costs?

incidentally, on this, the day obama signed the bill...

the stock market jumped more than 100 points to its highest point in 5
weeks.

Market always moves in advance. *Look at last Friday.

But you know squat of investing, so quite the liberal BS. *Go back to
you naitivity and Obama worship.

Debt, who would have thought America would be at war from within with
debt mongers.

China said they would do just that decades ago. They were going to bring
us down "without even firing a shot". The sheeples are following the
idiots in the White House straight to the slaughter. China needs our
land to grow food, and when the collapse comes, they will "save us" or
enslave us. Either way, bend over, change is here.

Scotty

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- Show quoted text -

Pssssst...... want to know where a BIG portion of that China debt came
from?

Don't tell me, George Bush and Rush Limbaugh, right??? And of course
Bush set up all of the devices for decades which led up to this.. Yep,
he was selling out our workforce while still in grade school...
Pfffftttt...

Scotty

--
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- Show quoted text -

Uh, it WAS George Bush. Borrowed $2.5 Trillion dollars to get the guy
that dissed his daddy.

And Obama is gonna' give 12 trillion to the unions, big business, Wall
street and other various organizations who elected him.. So what? Let me
do the math here... 2.5 trillion is uh, oh yeah, less than 12 trillion.
Oooops, another justification cut off at the knees.

Scotty

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"bpuharic" wrote in message
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On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 00:50:57 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 20:50:37 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

incidentally, on this, the day obama signed the bill...

the stock market jumped more than 100 points to its highest point in 5
weeks.

Yup the insurance company stocks are up 50% since they passed the
Senate bill.
United HC and Aetna both went from the low 20s to the mid 30s.
We really got even with those *******s huh?
This will go down as the insurance, hospital and pharmaceutical
conglomerate stimulus package of 2010.

gee. the dow includes more than insurance companies

but that's a fact. and right whiners dont do facts. only liberals do


Yes the DOW has more than insurance and medical companies, but they are what
drove the jump. 100 pts. is not a big percentage.

On Mar 24, 2:14*pm, I am Tosk wrote:
In article 0391c2ca-003f-4497-9039-777bdef66c00
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On Mar 24, 10:47 am, I am Tosk
wrote:
In article 735fef65-951b-471b-8944-1d99fdb4cac8
@d27g2000yqf.googlegroups.com, says...

On Mar 24, 9:17 am, I am Tosk wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 23/03/2010 6:50 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 11:08:59 -0700, "CalifBill"
wrote:

How are they going to cut Medicare? Medicare people vote at a higher
percentage than others. And they already said they are going to fix the
drug donut hole. How is that going to reduce costs?

incidentally, on this, the day obama signed the bill...

the stock market jumped more than 100 points to its highest point in 5
weeks.

Market always moves in advance. Look at last Friday.

But you know squat of investing, so quite the liberal BS. Go back to
you naitivity and Obama worship.

Debt, who would have thought America would be at war from within with
debt mongers.

China said they would do just that decades ago. They were going to bring
us down "without even firing a shot". The sheeples are following the
idiots in the White House straight to the slaughter. China needs our
land to grow food, and when the collapse comes, they will "save us" or
enslave us. Either way, bend over, change is here.

Scotty

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- Show quoted text -

Pssssst...... want to know where a BIG portion of that China debt came
from?

Don't tell me, George Bush and Rush Limbaugh, right??? And of course
Bush set up all of the devices for decades which led up to this.. Yep,
he was selling out our workforce while still in grade school...
Pfffftttt...

Scotty

--
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- Show quoted text -

Uh, it WAS George Bush. Borrowed $2.5 Trillion dollars to get the guy
that dissed his daddy.

And Obama is gonna' give 12 trillion to the unions, big business, Wall
street and other various organizations who elected him.. So what? Let me
do the math here... 2.5 trillion is uh, oh yeah, less than 12 trillion.
Oooops, another justification cut off at the knees.

Scotty

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So, if it's a certain amount, it's okay to borrow from China? What is
the amount to not exceed? Lemme guess, 2.5 trillion? OR is it that
it's okay if a Republican does it, but not if a Democrat does it? Do
you think that only liberals give money "to the various organizations
who elected him"? OR is it just that he's a democrat? You DO realize
that more republicans have been keelhauled for that than democrats
don't you?

"bpuharic" wrote in message
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On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 06:44:57 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 22/03/2010 9:33 PM, wrote:

The problem is "the law" can easily change and make the projection
wildly wrong. That is what happened to Medicare. Once they got the
framework in place it became a Christmas tree that everyone could hang
ornaments on. That is the fear with this bill. The congress is already
saying they are going to "fix all the problems" that were created to
get it passed in the first place. I am sure all of the cost saving
devices will be the first things to go, like the Medicare cuts, the
tax increases and the limits on what they grant the states.

Good annology. And he reason they don't want it in a seperate fund is
so they can hide the skiming as they ask for more, and more taxes. Foot
is now in the door, going to be hard now to stop.

of course, this idea is testable. has this been done with social
security? nope. medicare? nope

so he's full of ****.

They will. When the tax bill arrives people will be ****ed to no end.

actually it's going to reduce healthcare costs over the next decade.
this moron knows zip about economics

It will not be just income tax, sin taxes, utilities, gas and like EVERY
other nation with a statism government VAT, a national sales tax. At
some point government will go for a national sales tax.

as if we 're not already payin for healthcare...twice what other
countries pay

more proof the moron knows nothing except what he hears on talk radio


Europe has a shortage of doctors. They immigrate to countries that pay a
decent rate. The only docs you will see in the future, unless we make
medical school free, will be those from 3rd world countries.

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,
says...

On Mar 24, 2:14*pm, I am Tosk wrote:
In article 0391c2ca-003f-4497-9039-777bdef66c00
@l25g2000yqd.googlegroups.com, says...







On Mar 24, 10:47 am, I am Tosk
wrote:
In article 735fef65-951b-471b-8944-1d99fdb4cac8
@d27g2000yqf.googlegroups.com, says...

On Mar 24, 9:17 am, I am Tosk wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 23/03/2010 6:50 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 11:08:59 -0700, "CalifBill"
wrote:

How are they going to cut Medicare? Medicare people vote at a higher
percentage than others. And they already said they are going to fix the
drug donut hole. How is that going to reduce costs?

incidentally, on this, the day obama signed the bill...

the stock market jumped more than 100 points to its highest point in 5
weeks.

Market always moves in advance. Look at last Friday.

But you know squat of investing, so quite the liberal BS. Go back to
you naitivity and Obama worship.

Debt, who would have thought America would be at war from within with
debt mongers.

China said they would do just that decades ago. They were going to bring
us down "without even firing a shot". The sheeples are following the
idiots in the White House straight to the slaughter. China needs our
land to grow food, and when the collapse comes, they will "save us" or
enslave us. Either way, bend over, change is here.

Scotty

--
For a great time, go here first...http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v-Hidequoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Pssssst...... want to know where a BIG portion of that China debt came
from?

Don't tell me, George Bush and Rush Limbaugh, right??? And of course
Bush set up all of the devices for decades which led up to this.. Yep,
he was selling out our workforce while still in grade school...
Pfffftttt...

Scotty

--
For a great time, go here first...http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v-Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Uh, it WAS George Bush. Borrowed $2.5 Trillion dollars to get the guy
that dissed his daddy.

And Obama is gonna' give 12 trillion to the unions, big business, Wall
street and other various organizations who elected him.. So what? Let me
do the math here... 2.5 trillion is uh, oh yeah, less than 12 trillion.
Oooops, another justification cut off at the knees.

Scotty

--
For a great time, go here first...http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

So, if it's a certain amount, it's okay to borrow from China? What is
the amount to not exceed? Lemme guess, 2.5 trillion? OR is it that
it's okay if a Republican does it, but not if a Democrat does it? Do
you think that only liberals give money "to the various organizations
who elected him"? OR is it just that he's a democrat? You DO realize
that more republicans have been keelhauled for that than democrats
don't you?

The difference is about 600% or what you might say is "extended, or over
extended beyond recovery"...

Scotty

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In article ,
says...

"bpuharic" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 00:50:57 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 20:50:37 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

incidentally, on this, the day obama signed the bill...

the stock market jumped more than 100 points to its highest point in 5
weeks.

Yup the insurance company stocks are up 50% since they passed the
Senate bill.
United HC and Aetna both went from the low 20s to the mid 30s.
We really got even with those *******s huh?
This will go down as the insurance, hospital and pharmaceutical
conglomerate stimulus package of 2010.

gee. the dow includes more than insurance companies

but that's a fact. and right whiners dont do facts. only liberals do


Yes the DOW has more than insurance and medical companies, but they are what
drove the jump. 100 pts. is not a big percentage.

Well, really nobody said the whole stock market went up. If you "read
the frekin' post" above you will see that someone gave facts and figures
about insurance companies that went up. The bpuharic interjected the
stock market arguement to muddy the facts and avoid adressing them.
Either way, it doesn't change the fact that the big insurance companies
and big pharma made out like bandits. This was their T.A.R.P. as it
were. It will allow them to get rid of any business that is not so
profitable and raise their rates on the ones that are left, just like
the big banks did last year when they got theirs...

Scotty

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On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 06:55:34 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 23/03/2010 6:35 PM, bpuharic wrote:

actually it's going to reduce healthcare costs over the next decade.
this moron knows zip about economics

You liberals are so naive. And Obama is spending $1.7 trillion more
than he has to spend for the second year in a row but WTF he is saving
money... ya right. In reality he will overspend America into bankruptcy
even more next year. Until America is broke.

Even the IMF can't bailout the USA.

You idiots have to stop watching big mouth Obama's lips and watches how
he walks. You are too easy to lead down the garden path.

Do you have another group that you *contribute* to that targets
Canadian misuse of taxpayer funds?

Do you spend as much time there as you do on rec.boats complaining
about what oiur country does with its tax revenues?

Do you know our biggest trading partner is Canada? 38 Billion dollars
in trade.

Carp away but shouldn't you be working to improve your own lot?

Are you so rejected by your own that you have to find some other
country to bitch about?

CalifBill wrote:
"bpuharic" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 06:44:57 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 22/03/2010 9:33 PM, wrote:

The problem is "the law" can easily change and make the projection
wildly wrong. That is what happened to Medicare. Once they got the
framework in place it became a Christmas tree that everyone could hang
ornaments on. That is the fear with this bill. The congress is already
saying they are going to "fix all the problems" that were created to
get it passed in the first place. I am sure all of the cost saving
devices will be the first things to go, like the Medicare cuts, the
tax increases and the limits on what they grant the states.
Good annology. And he reason they don't want it in a seperate fund is
so they can hide the skiming as they ask for more, and more taxes. Foot
is now in the door, going to be hard now to stop.

of course, this idea is testable. has this been done with social
security? nope. medicare? nope

so he's full of ****.

They will. When the tax bill arrives people will be ****ed to no end.
actually it's going to reduce healthcare costs over the next decade.
this moron knows zip about economics

It will not be just income tax, sin taxes, utilities, gas and like EVERY
other nation with a statism government VAT, a national sales tax. At
some point government will go for a national sales tax.
as if we 're not already payin for healthcare...twice what other
countries pay

more proof the moron knows nothing except what he hears on talk radio


Europe has a shortage of doctors. They immigrate to countries that pay a
decent rate. The only docs you will see in the future, unless we make
medical school free, will be those from 3rd world countries.


They are already here in droves. It's hard to find a doc. that speaks
clear English, which is my native tongue by the way. It ain't going to
get better.

"CalifBill" wrote in message
m...

"bpuharic" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 06:44:57 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 22/03/2010 9:33 PM, wrote:

The problem is "the law" can easily change and make the projection
wildly wrong. That is what happened to Medicare. Once they got the
framework in place it became a Christmas tree that everyone could hang
ornaments on. That is the fear with this bill. The congress is already
saying they are going to "fix all the problems" that were created to
get it passed in the first place. I am sure all of the cost saving
devices will be the first things to go, like the Medicare cuts, the
tax increases and the limits on what they grant the states.

Good annology. And he reason they don't want it in a seperate fund is
so they can hide the skiming as they ask for more, and more taxes. Foot
is now in the door, going to be hard now to stop.

of course, this idea is testable. has this been done with social
security? nope. medicare? nope

so he's full of ****.

They will. When the tax bill arrives people will be ****ed to no end.

actually it's going to reduce healthcare costs over the next decade.
this moron knows zip about economics

It will not be just income tax, sin taxes, utilities, gas and like EVERY
other nation with a statism government VAT, a national sales tax. At
some point government will go for a national sales tax.

as if we 're not already payin for healthcare...twice what other
countries pay

more proof the moron knows nothing except what he hears on talk radio


Europe has a shortage of doctors. They immigrate to countries that pay a
decent rate. The only docs you will see in the future, unless we make
medical school free, will be those from 3rd world countries.

Sure... Doctors trained here, born here, brought up here are going to move
to Turkey. Ok. All of this because we want people to be healthy... loooney!

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