On 07/03/2010 10:52 PM, CalifBill wrote:
wrote in message
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On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 19:44:01 -0700,
wrote:

On 07/03/2010 7:17 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 18:48:33 -0700,
wrote:

got the same problem here.

. But
lets say you lived here all your life and have one. Then the tummy
hurts, call them up and they can see you in 4 weeks. So you wait 10
hours in emergency to find out you have appencitis.

and if you lose your job in the US? you NEVER get to see a doctor.

more proof that his solution is just to kill the middle class

I doubt you are middle class, just someone who doesn't like their new
station in life as a poor working class. If you work? You work?

yep. thinks that all working people are lazy...cant believe we
actually work


Since Obama and the corrupt Congress has spent much more than Bush even
thought of spending, you are never going to have money. And most of the
rest of us are going to be awfully short. His new budget proposes $1.6
Trillion more in debt. At the rate he and Congress are going by the end of
next year, the cost to service the debt at present very low interest rates
the cost will be $800 Billion bucks a year. And interest rates will
definitely be higher. What are you going to do then? There will be no
money for bailouts, no money for healthcare. The government if it is the
banker for healthcare, will just keep the money and meter out a minimum of
heathcare. What has the stimulus accomplished? Other than keeping overpaid
government workers on the payrole.

And likely less money for Social Security so the pain will be
widespread. And they don't see the rationed health care for governemtn
profit principle.

I am with you on this, but bpuharic and nom-du-plume types are clearly
an issue because they support Obama's madness. I am not sure if it is
selfishness or stupidity or both, but they sure follow the pied piper
like good little sheep.

One thing no Obamanite wants to realize is how much unemployment has
Obama debt-bailout spend cost in jobs?

Lets say I could start a business employing 1000 people. But I know my
wigits in this market have a price inflexability, I can't just pass on a
10% tax or wage hike for Obama debt and make it economically work. So I
play wait and see as if companies are taxed more or I have to lower
wages I get unionized or union issues, I can't afford it. So I play it
safe and do not invest.

Betch Obama doesn't want some independant think tank to look at the last
paragraph, as investing USA is on hold until the economics of Obama-debt
spend is realized. That is, who eats the shafting?
--
Politicians don't provide anything, the tax payers do.

On 3/8/10 8:30 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 07/03/2010 10:52 PM, CalifBill wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 19:44:01 -0700,
wrote:

On 07/03/2010 7:17 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 18:48:33 -0700,
wrote:

got the same problem here.

. But
lets say you lived here all your life and have one. Then the tummy
hurts, call them up and they can see you in 4 weeks. So you wait 10
hours in emergency to find out you have appencitis.

and if you lose your job in the US? you NEVER get to see a doctor.

more proof that his solution is just to kill the middle class

I doubt you are middle class, just someone who doesn't like their new
station in life as a poor working class. If you work? You work?

yep. thinks that all working people are lazy...cant believe we
actually work


Since Obama and the corrupt Congress has spent much more than Bush even
thought of spending, you are never going to have money. And most of the
rest of us are going to be awfully short. His new budget proposes $1.6
Trillion more in debt. At the rate he and Congress are going by the
end of
next year, the cost to service the debt at present very low interest
rates
the cost will be $800 Billion bucks a year. And interest rates will
definitely be higher. What are you going to do then? There will be no
money for bailouts, no money for healthcare. The government if it is the
banker for healthcare, will just keep the money and meter out a
minimum of
heathcare. What has the stimulus accomplished? Other than keeping
overpaid
government workers on the payrole.

And likely less money for Social Security so the pain will be
widespread. And they don't see the rationed health care for governemtn
profit principle.

I am with you on this, but bpuharic and nom-du-plume types are clearly
an issue because they support Obama's madness. I am not sure if it is
selfishness or stupidity or both, but they sure follow the pied piper
like good little sheep.

One thing no Obamanite wants to realize is how much unemployment has
Obama debt-bailout spend cost in jobs?

Lets say I could start a business employing 1000 people. But I know my
wigits in this market have a price inflexability, I can't just pass on a
10% tax or wage hike for Obama debt and make it economically work. So I
play wait and see as if companies are taxed more or I have to lower
wages I get unionized or union issues, I can't afford it. So I play it
safe and do not invest.

Betch Obama doesn't want some independant think tank to look at the last
paragraph, as investing USA is on hold until the economics of Obama-debt
spend is realized. That is, who eats the shafting?



You guys are a giggle and a half.

We need more tax revenues. The way to get them is to raise all sorts of
taxes on the wealthiest Americans. What are they going to do...move to
Canada?

Raise income taxes on the wealthy
Uncap the upper limits on employee payroll taxes (not the employer share)
Remove most of the corporate tax loopholes and tax breaks, except those
that result in hiring Americans and buying product and services made in
the USA or provided by Americans
Raise the estate tax for estates over a certain amount
Impose confiscatory taxes on the "bonus" earnings of those fleecing the
public (commercial bankers,brokers,health insurance scammers)

Use most of the funds to pay off the national debt, use some of the
funds to solidify social security and medicare and to extend full
medicare to every American.

Have a nice day.

On 08/03/2010 6:42 AM, HK wrote:
On 3/8/10 8:30 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 07/03/2010 10:52 PM, CalifBill wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 19:44:01 -0700,
wrote:

On 07/03/2010 7:17 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 18:48:33 -0700,
wrote:

got the same problem here.

. But
lets say you lived here all your life and have one. Then the tummy
hurts, call them up and they can see you in 4 weeks. So you wait 10
hours in emergency to find out you have appencitis.

and if you lose your job in the US? you NEVER get to see a doctor.

more proof that his solution is just to kill the middle class

I doubt you are middle class, just someone who doesn't like their new
station in life as a poor working class. If you work? You work?

yep. thinks that all working people are lazy...cant believe we
actually work


Since Obama and the corrupt Congress has spent much more than Bush even
thought of spending, you are never going to have money. And most of the
rest of us are going to be awfully short. His new budget proposes $1.6
Trillion more in debt. At the rate he and Congress are going by the
end of
next year, the cost to service the debt at present very low interest
rates
the cost will be $800 Billion bucks a year. And interest rates will
definitely be higher. What are you going to do then? There will be no
money for bailouts, no money for healthcare. The government if it is the
banker for healthcare, will just keep the money and meter out a
minimum of
heathcare. What has the stimulus accomplished? Other than keeping
overpaid
government workers on the payrole.

And likely less money for Social Security so the pain will be
widespread. And they don't see the rationed health care for governemtn
profit principle.

I am with you on this, but bpuharic and nom-du-plume types are clearly
an issue because they support Obama's madness. I am not sure if it is
selfishness or stupidity or both, but they sure follow the pied piper
like good little sheep.

One thing no Obamanite wants to realize is how much unemployment has
Obama debt-bailout spend cost in jobs?

Lets say I could start a business employing 1000 people. But I know my
wigits in this market have a price inflexability, I can't just pass on a
10% tax or wage hike for Obama debt and make it economically work. So I
play wait and see as if companies are taxed more or I have to lower
wages I get unionized or union issues, I can't afford it. So I play it
safe and do not invest.

Betch Obama doesn't want some independant think tank to look at the last
paragraph, as investing USA is on hold until the economics of Obama-debt
spend is realized. That is, who eats the shafting?



You guys are a giggle and a half.

We need more tax revenues. The way to get them is to raise all sorts of
taxes on the wealthiest Americans. What are they going to do...move to
Canada?

Nope. Just like a former Prime Minister, move it offshore like Canadian
Steam Ship Lines.

Raise income taxes on the wealthy

Part of the problem is they can't if the wealth are not making any
money. US governemnt revenue from business is reputed to be down 55%.
As businesses with lower or no profits don't pay income taxes. Same for
people, doubtful Waren Buffet is paying taxes with his loss carry forwards.

Uncap the upper limits on employee payroll taxes (not the employer share)
Remove most of the corporate tax loopholes and tax breaks, except those
that result in hiring Americans and buying product and services made in
the USA or provided by Americans
Raise the estate tax for estates over a certain amount
Impose confiscatory taxes on the "bonus" earnings of those fleecing the
public (commercial bankers,brokers,health insurance scammers)

Don't worry, I am sure it is coming. In Canada the top rates were
supposed to be for the "rich". But somehow once esablished it snuck
down right into the middle class.

Use most of the funds to pay off the national debt, use some of the
funds to solidify social security and medicare and to extend full
medicare to every American.

Have a nice day.

You will never live long enough to see the national debt payed off.
Even if you were born yesterday.

--
Politicians don't provide anything, the tax payers do.

"Canuck57" wrote in message
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On 07/03/2010 10:52 PM, CalifBill wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 19:44:01 -0700,
wrote:

On 07/03/2010 7:17 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 18:48:33 -0700,
wrote:

got the same problem here.

. But
lets say you lived here all your life and have one. Then the tummy
hurts, call them up and they can see you in 4 weeks. So you wait 10
hours in emergency to find out you have appencitis.

and if you lose your job in the US? you NEVER get to see a doctor.

more proof that his solution is just to kill the middle class

I doubt you are middle class, just someone who doesn't like their new
station in life as a poor working class. If you work? You work?

yep. thinks that all working people are lazy...cant believe we
actually work


Since Obama and the corrupt Congress has spent much more than Bush even
thought of spending, you are never going to have money. And most of the
rest of us are going to be awfully short. His new budget proposes $1.6
Trillion more in debt. At the rate he and Congress are going by the end
of
next year, the cost to service the debt at present very low interest
rates
the cost will be $800 Billion bucks a year. And interest rates will
definitely be higher. What are you going to do then? There will be no
money for bailouts, no money for healthcare. The government if it is the
banker for healthcare, will just keep the money and meter out a minimum
of
heathcare. What has the stimulus accomplished? Other than keeping
overpaid
government workers on the payrole.

And likely less money for Social Security so the pain will be widespread.
And they don't see the rationed health care for governemtn profit
principle.

I am with you on this, but bpuharic and nom-du-plume types are clearly an
issue because they support Obama's madness. I am not sure if it is
selfishness or stupidity or both, but they sure follow the pied piper like
good little sheep.

One thing no Obamanite wants to realize is how much unemployment has Obama
debt-bailout spend cost in jobs?

Lets say I could start a business employing 1000 people. But I know my
wigits in this market have a price inflexability, I can't just pass on a
10% tax or wage hike for Obama debt and make it economically work. So I
play wait and see as if companies are taxed more or I have to lower wages
I get unionized or union issues, I can't afford it. So I play it safe and
do not invest.

Betch Obama doesn't want some independant think tank to look at the last
paragraph, as investing USA is on hold until the economics of Obama-debt
spend is realized. That is, who eats the shafting?
--
Politicians don't provide anything, the tax payers do.


Yes, you "play it safe." No doubt about that. Except, not being very bright,
playing it safe means you don't get out much.

--
Nom=de=Plume

On 3/8/2010 1:42 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
?
--
Politicians don't provide anything, the tax payers do.


Yes, you "play it safe." No doubt about that. Except, not being very bright,
playing it safe means you don't get out much.

Isn't it a shame how 99% of the lawyers give the whole profession a bad name

On 3/9/10 6:50 AM, HK wrote:
On 3/8/2010 1:42 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
?
--
Politicians don't provide anything, the tax payers do.


Yes, you "play it safe." No doubt about that. Except, not being very
bright,
playing it safe means you don't get out much.

Isn't it a shame how 99% of the lawyers give the whole profession a bad
name

Spoofer active again. Too bad.

On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 06:30:30 -0700, Canuck57
wrote:


I am with you on this, but bpuharic and nom-du-plume types are clearly
an issue because they support Obama's madness. I am not sure if it is
selfishness or stupidity or both, but they sure follow the pied piper
like good little sheep.

gee. he forgets..or ignores, the fact the rich WHITE guy spent a
TRILLION in iraq for NOTHING. at least obama is spending on the US
economy. bush paid his rich halliburton/KKR buddies.


One thing no Obamanite wants to realize is how much unemployment has
Obama debt-bailout spend cost in jobs?

you mean because unemployment has dropped 3% over the last few months?
that what you complaining about?

you want it at 25%. good luck with that, right winger

"bpuharic" wrote in message
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On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 06:30:30 -0700, Canuck57
wrote:


I am with you on this, but bpuharic and nom-du-plume types are clearly
an issue because they support Obama's madness. I am not sure if it is
selfishness or stupidity or both, but they sure follow the pied piper
like good little sheep.

gee. he forgets..or ignores, the fact the rich WHITE guy spent a
TRILLION in iraq for NOTHING. at least obama is spending on the US
economy. bush paid his rich halliburton/KKR buddies.


One thing no Obamanite wants to realize is how much unemployment has
Obama debt-bailout spend cost in jobs?

you mean because unemployment has dropped 3% over the last few months?
that what you complaining about?

you want it at 25%. good luck with that, right winger


Well, to give him credit, the chart at this site is pretty subtle. Perhaps
it's too subtle for Canuck.

http://palatnikfactor.com/2010/02/06...resident-bush/

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Nom=de=Plume

"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
"bpuharic" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 06:30:30 -0700, Canuck57
wrote:


I am with you on this, but bpuharic and nom-du-plume types are clearly
an issue because they support Obama's madness. I am not sure if it is
selfishness or stupidity or both, but they sure follow the pied piper
like good little sheep.

gee. he forgets..or ignores, the fact the rich WHITE guy spent a
TRILLION in iraq for NOTHING. at least obama is spending on the US
economy. bush paid his rich halliburton/KKR buddies.


One thing no Obamanite wants to realize is how much unemployment has
Obama debt-bailout spend cost in jobs?

you mean because unemployment has dropped 3% over the last few months?
that what you complaining about?

you want it at 25%. good luck with that, right winger


Well, to give him credit, the chart at this site is pretty subtle. Perhaps
it's too subtle for Canuck.

http://palatnikfactor.com/2010/02/06...resident-bush/

--
Nom=de=Plume


That chart showes that Obama's "Stimulus" has failed. Resolutely failed.
There are less jobs being lost each month because there are not that many
jobs being done. Show us a chart of the real unemployment.

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
m...

"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
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"bpuharic" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 06:30:30 -0700, Canuck57
wrote:


I am with you on this, but bpuharic and nom-du-plume types are clearly
an issue because they support Obama's madness. I am not sure if it is
selfishness or stupidity or both, but they sure follow the pied piper
like good little sheep.

gee. he forgets..or ignores, the fact the rich WHITE guy spent a
TRILLION in iraq for NOTHING. at least obama is spending on the US
economy. bush paid his rich halliburton/KKR buddies.


One thing no Obamanite wants to realize is how much unemployment has
Obama debt-bailout spend cost in jobs?

you mean because unemployment has dropped 3% over the last few months?
that what you complaining about?

you want it at 25%. good luck with that, right winger


Well, to give him credit, the chart at this site is pretty subtle.
Perhaps it's too subtle for Canuck.

http://palatnikfactor.com/2010/02/06...resident-bush/

--
Nom=de=Plume


That chart showes that Obama's "Stimulus" has failed. Resolutely failed.
There are less jobs being lost each month because there are not that many
jobs being done. Show us a chart of the real unemployment.

Good God... it's a mirror of what Bush caused. You really need to stop
listening to Rush.

There's a recovery underway. It may not be strong, it might not even be
sustainable. We'll have to wait and see, but to deny reality....

FYI, it's fewer jobs being loss, not less jobs being lost, but you got it
right fewer jobs are being lost. Yes, there are people dropping off the
unemployment roles and are no longer being counted. Yes, the unemployment
numbers are worse because of this fact, but the rate of job loss is slowing.
Just about all economists agree that the job situation isn't getting worse
but getting better.

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Nom=de=Plume