On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 19:42:07 -0700, Canuck57
wrote:

On 07/03/2010 7:15 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 19:04:30 -0700,
wrote:

he keeps telling us why socialized systems are better. then complains
when obama wants to socialize some aspects of US healthcare

go figure.

I guess then it went over your head.

uh no. i just dont have a tin foil hat on my head like you do


Only if done right, with years of planing including social engineering,
seperation of revenues and a whole lot of policy to prevent abuse,
*******isation and bull****.

None of which the democrats did, because to them it is just a money grab.

uh huh. our 401k's collapsed under bush. so who does canuck say is to
blame?

the darkie



Does not mean I disgree with the 90,000 foot view of univeral health
care, just that do it right or **** yourselves for statism and the
mesiah Obama. His view is $$$ in each eye and you are the sheep.

he'd go for socialized medicine. unfortunately there are alot of
illiterates like you in the US who drool into their bibs each night
sayinjg how wonderful unregulated capitalism is.


But they don't want to evolve the US system, they want the cash flow.
Two different beasts.

more paranoia. any proof? nope. just more 'hate the darkie' talk

Look at Canada and the UK. Our tax rates are insane, justified every
time the government wanted more money as they mispent on something else.

our rates are insane too. we just squander our money on defense that
no one else in the world is willing to pay


For example, started in SK, then the feds made it national. Federal
taxes went nuts. Being so cumbersome, they shifted it back to the
provinces like a hot potato. Trouble is fed taxes didn't go down they
went up. Provinces snuck in higher taxes and ever higher taxes as do
you want heath care? So 50% of your income ends up in one form or
another to one level of government or another.

30% fed taxes
5% state and local
6% VAT
8% social security

gee. that's almost 50%. and yet you think americans pay no taxes.

more proof your tin foil hat needs adjusted

Today, there is all sorts of expensive stuff they can do to keep you
around longer. But what is the practical limits? And how to make it
fair for everyone and not just be a government hose up your ass.

canuck's solution?

if you're middle class, you die.

Nope, lifetime and term maximum costs so one person can't go out costing
$30 million sucking the system dry.

you mean like death panels? of course the GOP lied about THOSE...

right whiners lie about EVERYTHING

On 07/03/2010 7:55 PM, bpuharic wrote:

Only if done right, with years of planing including social engineering,
seperation of revenues and a whole lot of policy to prevent abuse,
*******isation and bull****.

None of which the democrats did, because to them it is just a money grab.

uh huh. our 401k's collapsed under bush. so who does canuck say is to
blame?

the darkie

Nope, your fault. Money is attracted to those that know how to manage it.

When money, government, banks, debt manages people, they tend to loose it.

I can't claim that truism, I owe it to my grandfather.

Does not mean I disgree with the 90,000 foot view of univeral health
care, just that do it right or **** yourselves for statism and the
mesiah Obama. His view is $$$ in each eye and you are the sheep.

he'd go for socialized medicine. unfortunately there are alot of
illiterates like you in the US who drool into their bibs each night
sayinjg how wonderful unregulated capitalism is.

Sometimes it is better to be satisfied with what you have and not become
a desperate envious jack ass.

Look at Canada and the UK. Our tax rates are insane, justified every
time the government wanted more money as they mispent on something else.

our rates are insane too. we just squander our money on defense that
no one else in the world is willing to pay

You think so? When I was in Wisconsin, I believe in the top half of
taxation, I thought I was on a tax freaking holiday for 10 years.

You clueless ****s have no clue.

For example, started in SK, then the feds made it national. Federal
taxes went nuts. Being so cumbersome, they shifted it back to the
provinces like a hot potato. Trouble is fed taxes didn't go down they
went up. Provinces snuck in higher taxes and ever higher taxes as do
you want heath care? So 50% of your income ends up in one form or
another to one level of government or another.

30% fed taxes
5% state and local
6% VAT
8% social security

gee. that's almost 50%. and yet you think americans pay no taxes.

I have 10 US tax filing in he folder. I can make a direct comparison.
And I live int he cheapest taxed province in Canada.

You clueless ****s have no clue.

Nope, lifetime and term maximum costs so one person can't go out costing
$30 million sucking the system dry.

you mean like death panels? of course the GOP lied about THOSE...

Nope, just limited liabilty on your sorry ass. Government isn't going
to change that. In fact they will government profit.

Better ask yourself, if you would persoannly pay $1 million to keep me
alive. Then ask why should I pay a million to keep you alive?
--
Politicians don't provide anything, the tax payers do.