bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 19:04:30 -0700, Canuck57
wrote:

On 07/03/2010 5:04 PM, Frogloogyherringsnacks wrote:
bpuharic wrote:

Why? Maybe he agrees.
Haven't seen any answers from him, just roadblocks.
Here's something that can't be escaped.
The U.S. health care system is basically socialism for health care
providers and insurance companies.
There are plenty of examples of health care systems around the world
that provide better service for 1/2 to 2/3 the cost.
True. But usually comes with less taxes, less lawsuits, lower
practioner standards, lower cost of living. They often have plans where
the governemtn will sponsor the expensive education buy you have to work
it off afterwards. Including supporting rural areas.

he keeps telling us why socialized systems are better. then complains
when obama wants to socialize some aspects of US healthcare

go figure.


True. Sometimes ideology overcomes common sense.

But they don't want to evolve the US system, they want the cash flow.
Two different beasts.

more paranoia. any proof? nope. just more 'hate the darkie' talk

Plenty of proof. Why didn't the Dems get a health care bill, including
a public option or Medicare buy-in, done already?
They had 60 in the Senate and a good majority in the House.
And they're still stuck in neutral.
Look at who's paying off mobsters like Nelson, Lieberman, et al.
Insurance companies, drug companies, and Wall Street.
Why didn't Obama show the leadership needed to get the job done?
Look at his advisers and his political cash contributors.
Insurance companies, drug companies and Wall Street.
You know about the deals the Dems cut, don't you?
Money talks in the U.S.A. And the American government is the best money
can buy.
Don't get me wrong. Anything that gets passed is an improvement.
If they pass that first hurdle, the good pols can work on fixing the
problems. It'll be easy, because all the selling out of the American
citizens will become evident soon enough.
It's going be a Waterloo, one way or another.


Having health care shows you did something right, even if it was dumb
luck. What's that saying about money and luck?
The rest of the world else laughs and shakes their head.
"The folks" don't mind. Just shows how stupid and socialist the others
are. There's an answer for that. Rename French fries American fries.
Problem solved.
But people also fail to realize thatn 300 years ago, the medical was
simple. Get a lump or tumor, here is the heroin or cocaine and have a
nice couple of months. (Coke used to be the real thing!)

Today, there is all sorts of expensive stuff they can do to keep you
around longer. But what is the practical limits? And how to make it
fair for everyone and not just be a government hose up your ass.

canuck's solution?

if you're middle class, you die.


Well, he's better and smarter than everybody else.
I heard something like 1/2 the Medicare budget is spent on keeping old
people alive for the last couple months.
It's a medical provider ripoff, but if you make them stop it, you'll be
accused of favoring death panels. Like Adolf Hitler, I think.
And you're a commie, too.
The money-makers have this stuff down pat.
And they find fools like Cannuck to suck it up and pass it on.
Fancies himself a brilliant capitalist. But he's just a tool.