On 07/03/2010 4:17 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 17:21:03 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 15:16:01 -0500, wrote:

courtesy of our HMO we had to go 30 miles before we found a doctor
who'd graduated from a US medical school.

how do you feel about the karachi medical school for women? want your
wife to see a doctor who's graduated from that fine instituion?

How does either the house or senate bill address this?

well that's the problem, isn't it? private health care is substandard.
with socialized medicine, we'd be able to pick our doctors.


It does absolutely ZERO to the provider networks or even how the
insurance companies do business. It only guarantees them more business
... Sweet if you are an insurance company, a medical conglomerate or a
drug company. They all get richer and our prices WILL go up..

gee. and how does canuck's view that the middle class should die
address this? care to comment?

Hey, you can pick your family doctors in our system.

Trouble is finding one that isn't booked well into 2011 and accepting
patients. Your next problem is finding one that speaks english. But
lets say you lived here all your life and have one. Then the tummy
hurts, call them up and they can see you in 4 weeks. So you wait 10
hours in emergency to find out you have appencitis.

And if hospitalized, as a follow up they send you too a specialist. An
abusive one, but available. They just **** you off, and no confidence
in letting them take a knife to you, you see someone else on your own
dime as it isn't "approved".

Pretty typical around here.

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On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 18:48:33 -0700, Canuck57
wrote:

On 07/03/2010 4:17 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 17:21:03 -0500, wrote:


It does absolutely ZERO to the provider networks or even how the
insurance companies do business. It only guarantees them more business
... Sweet if you are an insurance company, a medical conglomerate or a
drug company. They all get richer and our prices WILL go up..

gee. and how does canuck's view that the middle class should die
address this? care to comment?

Hey, you can pick your family doctors in our system.

and here we can as well. of course, most of them graduated from the
world renowned kabul university school of medicine.


Trouble is finding one that isn't booked well into 2011 and accepting
patients. Your next problem is finding one that speaks english

got the same problem here.

.. But
lets say you lived here all your life and have one. Then the tummy
hurts, call them up and they can see you in 4 weeks. So you wait 10
hours in emergency to find out you have appencitis.

and if you lose your job in the US? you NEVER get to see a doctor.

more proof that his solution is just to kill the middle class

On 07/03/2010 7:17 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 18:48:33 -0700,
wrote:

On 07/03/2010 4:17 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 17:21:03 -0500, wrote:


It does absolutely ZERO to the provider networks or even how the
insurance companies do business. It only guarantees them more business
... Sweet if you are an insurance company, a medical conglomerate or a
drug company. They all get richer and our prices WILL go up..

gee. and how does canuck's view that the middle class should die
address this? care to comment?

Hey, you can pick your family doctors in our system.

and here we can as well. of course, most of them graduated from the
world renowned kabul university school of medicine.


Trouble is finding one that isn't booked well into 2011 and accepting
patients. Your next problem is finding one that speaks english

got the same problem here.

. But
lets say you lived here all your life and have one. Then the tummy
hurts, call them up and they can see you in 4 weeks. So you wait 10
hours in emergency to find out you have appencitis.

and if you lose your job in the US? you NEVER get to see a doctor.

more proof that his solution is just to kill the middle class

I doubt you are middle class, just someone who doesn't like their new
station in life as a poor working class. If you work? You work?

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On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 19:44:01 -0700, Canuck57
wrote:

On 07/03/2010 7:17 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 18:48:33 -0700,
wrote:

got the same problem here.

. But
lets say you lived here all your life and have one. Then the tummy
hurts, call them up and they can see you in 4 weeks. So you wait 10
hours in emergency to find out you have appencitis.

and if you lose your job in the US? you NEVER get to see a doctor.

more proof that his solution is just to kill the middle class

I doubt you are middle class, just someone who doesn't like their new
station in life as a poor working class. If you work? You work?

yep. thinks that all working people are lazy...cant believe we
actually work

On 07/03/2010 7:56 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 19:44:01 -0700,
wrote:

On 07/03/2010 7:17 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 18:48:33 -0700,
wrote:

got the same problem here.

. But
lets say you lived here all your life and have one. Then the tummy
hurts, call them up and they can see you in 4 weeks. So you wait 10
hours in emergency to find out you have appencitis.

and if you lose your job in the US? you NEVER get to see a doctor.

more proof that his solution is just to kill the middle class

I doubt you are middle class, just someone who doesn't like their new
station in life as a poor working class. If you work? You work?

yep. thinks that all working people are lazy...cant believe we
actually work

Cool. Save your money as Obama is at some point going to have to pass
on the tax bill for this insane debt-bailout spending.

The mesiah has spent, now you must pay.

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On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 22:07:12 -0700, Canuck57
wrote:

On 07/03/2010 7:56 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 19:44:01 -0700,
wrote:

yep. thinks that all working people are lazy...cant believe we
actually work

Cool. Save your money as Obama is at some point going to have to pass
on the tax bill for this insane debt-bailout spending.

guess he thinks obama's been president for 9 years. guess he forgot
bush ****ed away a TRILLION dollars in iraq

a TRILLION dollars. and he says NOTHING about that.

because bush is rich and white.


The mesiah has spent, now you must pay.

the money was spent before obama ever took office. you're just too
economically illterate to know that. it's simpler and easier to blame
it on the darkie

"bpuharic" wrote in message
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On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 19:44:01 -0700, Canuck57
wrote:

On 07/03/2010 7:17 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 18:48:33 -0700,
wrote:

got the same problem here.

. But
lets say you lived here all your life and have one. Then the tummy
hurts, call them up and they can see you in 4 weeks. So you wait 10
hours in emergency to find out you have appencitis.

and if you lose your job in the US? you NEVER get to see a doctor.

more proof that his solution is just to kill the middle class

I doubt you are middle class, just someone who doesn't like their new
station in life as a poor working class. If you work? You work?

yep. thinks that all working people are lazy...cant believe we
actually work


Since Obama and the corrupt Congress has spent much more than Bush even
thought of spending, you are never going to have money. And most of the
rest of us are going to be awfully short. His new budget proposes $1.6
Trillion more in debt. At the rate he and Congress are going by the end of
next year, the cost to service the debt at present very low interest rates
the cost will be $800 Billion bucks a year. And interest rates will
definitely be higher. What are you going to do then? There will be no
money for bailouts, no money for healthcare. The government if it is the
banker for healthcare, will just keep the money and meter out a minimum of
heathcare. What has the stimulus accomplished? Other than keeping overpaid
government workers on the payrole.

"CalifBill" wrote in message
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"bpuharic" wrote in message
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On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 19:44:01 -0700, Canuck57
wrote:

On 07/03/2010 7:17 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 18:48:33 -0700,
wrote:

got the same problem here.

. But
lets say you lived here all your life and have one. Then the tummy
hurts, call them up and they can see you in 4 weeks. So you wait 10
hours in emergency to find out you have appencitis.

and if you lose your job in the US? you NEVER get to see a doctor.

more proof that his solution is just to kill the middle class

I doubt you are middle class, just someone who doesn't like their new
station in life as a poor working class. If you work? You work?

yep. thinks that all working people are lazy...cant believe we
actually work


Since Obama and the corrupt Congress has spent much more than Bush even
thought of spending, you are never going to have money. And most of the
rest of us are going to be awfully short. His new budget proposes $1.6
Trillion more in debt. At the rate he and Congress are going by the end
of next year, the cost to service the debt at present very low interest
rates the cost will be $800 Billion bucks a year. And interest rates will
definitely be higher. What are you going to do then? There will be no
money for bailouts, no money for healthcare. The government if it is the
banker for healthcare, will just keep the money and meter out a minimum of
heathcare. What has the stimulus accomplished? Other than keeping
overpaid government workers on the payrole.

"Interest rates will definitely be higher." You must be an oracle. Duhh...
they're currently at historic lows, so that's not much of a leap in logic.

Obama spent FAR less than Bush. Interesting how you right nuts forget about
the $10T in tax cuts for the rich and the Iraqi war's $6T.

"No money for healthcare." So, a public option or even better a single-payer
system would have 100s of billions. Nope, can't do that, right?

I'm sorry you're struggling. I'm sure the RNC would like your meager
donation, since you're a reactionary and they have a fear-based strategy.

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On 07/03/2010 11:30 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
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wrote in message
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On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 19:44:01 -0700,
wrote:

On 07/03/2010 7:17 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 18:48:33 -0700,
wrote:

got the same problem here.

. But
lets say you lived here all your life and have one. Then the tummy
hurts, call them up and they can see you in 4 weeks. So you wait 10
hours in emergency to find out you have appencitis.

and if you lose your job in the US? you NEVER get to see a doctor.

more proof that his solution is just to kill the middle class

I doubt you are middle class, just someone who doesn't like their new
station in life as a poor working class. If you work? You work?

yep. thinks that all working people are lazy...cant believe we
actually work


Since Obama and the corrupt Congress has spent much more than Bush even
thought of spending, you are never going to have money. And most of the
rest of us are going to be awfully short. His new budget proposes $1.6
Trillion more in debt. At the rate he and Congress are going by the end
of next year, the cost to service the debt at present very low interest
rates the cost will be $800 Billion bucks a year. And interest rates will
definitely be higher. What are you going to do then? There will be no
money for bailouts, no money for healthcare. The government if it is the
banker for healthcare, will just keep the money and meter out a minimum of
heathcare. What has the stimulus accomplished? Other than keeping
overpaid government workers on the payrole.

"Interest rates will definitely be higher." You must be an oracle. Duhh...
they're currently at historic lows, so that's not much of a leap in logic.

They can't go lower than zero.

Obama spent FAR less than Bush. Interesting how you right nuts forget about
the $10T in tax cuts for the rich and the Iraqi war's $6T.

Not as rate/time. For rate over time, Obama is debt-spending more than
4 times faster. By the end of 2010, 2 years, Obama will have debt spent
about the same as Bush did in 8 years.

"No money for healthcare." So, a public option or even better a single-payer
system would have 100s of billions. Nope, can't do that, right?

Eventually, when you can't pay for something you lose it. Just takes time.

I'm sorry you're struggling. I'm sure the RNC would like your meager
donation, since you're a reactionary and they have a fear-based strategy.

Doesn't mater the reason, now is not a good time to be you.

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On 07/03/2010 10:52 PM, CalifBill wrote:
wrote in message
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On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 19:44:01 -0700,
wrote:

On 07/03/2010 7:17 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 18:48:33 -0700,
wrote:

got the same problem here.

. But
lets say you lived here all your life and have one. Then the tummy
hurts, call them up and they can see you in 4 weeks. So you wait 10
hours in emergency to find out you have appencitis.

and if you lose your job in the US? you NEVER get to see a doctor.

more proof that his solution is just to kill the middle class

I doubt you are middle class, just someone who doesn't like their new
station in life as a poor working class. If you work? You work?

yep. thinks that all working people are lazy...cant believe we
actually work


Since Obama and the corrupt Congress has spent much more than Bush even
thought of spending, you are never going to have money. And most of the
rest of us are going to be awfully short. His new budget proposes $1.6
Trillion more in debt. At the rate he and Congress are going by the end of
next year, the cost to service the debt at present very low interest rates
the cost will be $800 Billion bucks a year. And interest rates will
definitely be higher. What are you going to do then? There will be no
money for bailouts, no money for healthcare. The government if it is the
banker for healthcare, will just keep the money and meter out a minimum of
heathcare. What has the stimulus accomplished? Other than keeping overpaid
government workers on the payrole.

And likely less money for Social Security so the pain will be
widespread. And they don't see the rationed health care for governemtn
profit principle.

I am with you on this, but bpuharic and nom-du-plume types are clearly
an issue because they support Obama's madness. I am not sure if it is
selfishness or stupidity or both, but they sure follow the pied piper
like good little sheep.

One thing no Obamanite wants to realize is how much unemployment has
Obama debt-bailout spend cost in jobs?

Lets say I could start a business employing 1000 people. But I know my
wigits in this market have a price inflexability, I can't just pass on a
10% tax or wage hike for Obama debt and make it economically work. So I
play wait and see as if companies are taxed more or I have to lower
wages I get unionized or union issues, I can't afford it. So I play it
safe and do not invest.

Betch Obama doesn't want some independant think tank to look at the last
paragraph, as investing USA is on hold until the economics of Obama-debt
spend is realized. That is, who eats the shafting?
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