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Harry[_2_] December 28th 09 11:25 AM

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nom=de=plume wrote:
"TopBassDog" wrote in message
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On Dec 27, 7:36 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"TopBassDog" wrote in message

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On Dec 27, 6:25 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:



If anything, she's guilty of mis-speaking, so you should probably take a
chill pill.
--
Nom=de=Plume
Of course, D'Plume, you should know what "mis-speaking" is. You do so
quite regularly here.

I'd rather mis-speak vs. mis-think, which seems to be your forte.

--
Nom=de=Plume


But D'Plume. You love me and you know it!



I guess it'll have to be unrequited.

What a shame. At least he won't have to go get those shots then.

--

It's flattering to see so many of you turds spoofing me.

Jim December 28th 09 12:01 PM

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thunder wrote:
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 22:18:04 -0500, Jim wrote:


Obama sure knows how to pick em.


The plane was loaded in Amsterdam. Frankly, I don't see how Nepolitano
had a whole hell of a lot to do with it.


Her comment about How well the system works in relation to this incident
has people scratching their heads. I can see where it's confused you
as well.

Jim December 28th 09 12:06 PM

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Canuck57 wrote:
On 27/12/2009 8:39 PM, thunder wrote:
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 20:05:55 -0700, Canuck57 wrote:


I don't make them up. How many air plane incidents in say the last 10
years involve other than young male islam/muslims?


Never heard of the Black Widows?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahidka

Don't give me the hate group nonsense. If I am looking for terrorists I
am not going to be wearing a turbin padding down an eldery white nun
living 30 years in Arkansas I am going to get no where.


Profiling has had some successes with single individuals. When you are
talking of a terrorist organization, it will just look for whackos that
don't fit the profile. By the way, Mohammed Atta doesn't fit your
profile. He was 33.


Looks like Ruskies have some fiesty and deadly women. Did they do a US
airliner?

33, he would fit. I said young, not kids... say 14 to 40.

I never claimed profiling will get them all, just a method of spending
20% of the resources for 80% of the effect. Then you have 80% of the
resources to go after 20% that remain. Increases the odds of being
effective.

And add all terrorist groups, even domestic skin heads.

Although you are correct, profiling shines a light on certain races and
classes of people. We can't allow that to happen. ;-)

Jim December 28th 09 12:08 PM

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thunder wrote:
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 20:56:02 -0700, Canuck57 wrote:

I never claimed profiling will get them all, just a method of spending
20% of the resources for 80% of the effect. Then you have 80% of the
resources to go after 20% that remain. Increases the odds of being
effective.


That is exactly one of the problems with profiling. You don't spend 20%
of the resources. You spend 80% of the resources, and ignore all the
rest. Put two people on an airplane, one a young Muslim man, the other
an older white woman. The woman is carrying the bomb. While all the
airport security focuses on the young Muslim man, the woman slips on
board.


Rediculous. You would never get a job as a profiler.

Harry[_2_] December 28th 09 12:15 PM

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On 12/28/09 7:08 AM, Jim wrote:
thunder wrote:
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 20:56:02 -0700, Canuck57 wrote:

I never claimed profiling will get them all, just a method of spending
20% of the resources for 80% of the effect. Then you have 80% of the
resources to go after 20% that remain. Increases the odds of being
effective.


That is exactly one of the problems with profiling. You don't spend
20% of the resources. You spend 80% of the resources, and ignore all
the rest. Put two people on an airplane, one a young Muslim man, the
other an older white woman. The woman is carrying the bomb. While all
the airport security focuses on the young Muslim man, the woman slips
on board.


Rediculous. You would never get a job as a profiler.


You base this on what? Your crap job in the navy 40 years ago and no
real employment in your entire lifetime?

D.Duck[_5_] December 28th 09 12:27 PM

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Jim wrote:
thunder wrote:
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 22:18:04 -0500, Jim wrote:


Obama sure knows how to pick em.


The plane was loaded in Amsterdam. Frankly, I don't see how
Nepolitano had a whole hell of a lot to do with it.


Her comment about How well the system works in relation to this incident
has people scratching their heads. I can see where it's confused you as
well.



Let's see, aren't most foreign flights TO the US loaded outside the US?
Shouldn't there be coordination of efforts between the US and foreign
countries?

Harry[_2_] December 28th 09 12:33 PM

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On 12/28/09 7:27 AM, D.Duck wrote:
Jim wrote:
thunder wrote:
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 22:18:04 -0500, Jim wrote:


Obama sure knows how to pick em.

The plane was loaded in Amsterdam. Frankly, I don't see how
Nepolitano had a whole hell of a lot to do with it.


Her comment about How well the system works in relation to this
incident has people scratching their heads. I can see where it's
confused you as well.



Let's see, aren't most foreign flights TO the US loaded outside the US?
Shouldn't there be coordination of efforts between the US and foreign
countries?


You should check with flajim, frogwatch, and the rest of the right-wing
morons here. They know nothing about airport security, either.


thunder December 28th 09 12:49 PM

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On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 07:08:39 -0500, Jim wrote:


That is exactly one of the problems with profiling. You don't spend
20% of the resources. You spend 80% of the resources, and ignore all
the rest. Put two people on an airplane, one a young Muslim man, the
other an older white woman. The woman is carrying the bomb. While all
the airport security focuses on the young Muslim man, the woman slips
on board.


Rediculous. You would never get a job as a profiler.


Yup, but consider, this last incident was caused by a black Nigerian, not
an Arab. As I said before, if you want to profile a terrorist, fine, but
if you think racial profiling is the answer, you are going to miss a lot
of terrorists, McVeigh, the Unabomber, the Shoe Bomber, Black Widows,
etc., etc.

Harry[_2_] December 28th 09 12:51 PM

Airplane Security
 
On 12/28/09 7:49 AM, thunder wrote:
On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 07:08:39 -0500, Jim wrote:


That is exactly one of the problems with profiling. You don't spend
20% of the resources. You spend 80% of the resources, and ignore all
the rest. Put two people on an airplane, one a young Muslim man, the
other an older white woman. The woman is carrying the bomb. While all
the airport security focuses on the young Muslim man, the woman slips
on board.


Rediculous. You would never get a job as a profiler.


Yup, but consider, this last incident was caused by a black Nigerian, not
an Arab. As I said before, if you want to profile a terrorist, fine, but
if you think racial profiling is the answer, you are going to miss a lot
of terrorists, McVeigh, the Unabomber, the Shoe Bomber, Black Widows,
etc., etc.


And the upcoming terrorist acts from the teabagger-KKK movements.


mmc December 28th 09 01:09 PM

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"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 10:01:14 -0500, "mmc" wrote:


Or, TSA could pay attention to the no fly list and not let the jerk on
board
in the first place. They may be too busy checking to make sure your 3 oz.
shampoo bottle is properly secured in it's 1 qt. anti- terrorist ziplock
bag
to be bothered with a heads up from the Brits.
TSA is a poor substitute for security. It's been crap since it was set up
and not likely to get better.
I know the libs will squeal at this but mayube a little racial profiling
is
in order? Like, check out people with obviously Muslim names a little more
closely than pasty white "Bubba Joe Smith" from Texarkana (apologies if
Bubba Joe actually resides on this group).


There's always going to be somebody who doesn't get on the list.
Don't need "racial" profiling. Some of these jihadists are white.
Just check the Muslims close, especially the young ones.
Male and female. Those are the ones that blow themselves and
innocents to smithereens. Might be wrong, but I can't recall any
suicide bomber being over 30 years old.
McVeigh has nothing to do with these. Different animal.
He didn't blow himself up.
That's why arming passengers won't work either.
A .45 against 2 pounds of C-4 at 30,000 feet always has the same
winner.
El Al doesn't have a problem, but they devote smart people and a
hard-ass attitude to the weeding process.
I don't understand the attitude of fliers that they don't want to
suffer "discomfort." Being blown out of the air is real discomfort.
There's a war going on.
Wearing a nice clean hospital gown and getting a free prostate or
vaginal exam sounds like a pretty good deal.
But just good screening should take care of it. Despite all the talk
of these terrorists being "sophisticated" they're not bright bulbs.
Just we've been stupid in letting them get close.
And way too PC. I still don't understand why somebody didn't jack up
that Ft. Hood shooter before he shot up our boys.
Seems somebody should have broke his nose and drawn him out for
a discharge before it happened.
If the terrorists had any "sophistication" they'd be shooting down
airliners with Stingers instead of mixing up vinegar and Chlorox
bleach or whatever the hell they're doing to set their crotch on fire.
That's all Jack Bauer bull****. And remember, even Santa handed Bauer
his ass on a plate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6yUCbqAGrg

--Vic

Now that you've thrown in a free exam, I'm all for it Vic!




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