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Harry[_2_] December 28th 09 11:01 PM

Airplane Security
 
nom=de=plume wrote:
"TopBassDog" wrote in message
...
On Dec 26, 11:55 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message

...



Why not just make flyers strip and issue hospital gowns and booties?
They can pick up their clothes at the arrival point.
What's the big deal?
They can modify the hospital gowns so your ass isn't in the wind.
Maybe go to a trousers and shirt kind.
Let everybody carry 20 bucks aboard to buy stuff from the plane gedunk
in case they just have to have a Snickers or a Coca-Cola.
Crew can organize prayer sessions (multi-denomination), group
sing-alongs and charade games to keep folks busy while in the air.
Those who want to can just watch a movie.
What's the problem here? Why aren't they doing this?
No more long security waits at the airport, and you can reduce costs
by eliminating most of the TSA personnel.
Be more fun flying too. An adventure every time.
Looks doable to me. I must add though, that I don't fly.
What say you fliers?
--Vic

I'd rather die see some people naked.

--
Nom=de=Plume


"I'd rather die see some people naked"

D'Plume. I would never call you "average."



I'd rather you not call me at all.

Good one sister. That was a real knee slapper.

--

It's flattering to see so many of you turds spoofing me.

Harry[_2_] December 28th 09 11:03 PM

Airplane Security
 
Harry wrote:


Good one sister. That was a real knee slapper.


Another from flajim, the newsgroup ID spoofer.

Canuck57[_9_] December 29th 09 12:13 AM

Airplane Security
 
On 28/12/2009 1:01 PM, lil abner wrote:
Harry wrote:
On 12/27/09 10:48 PM, thunder wrote:
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 22:44:25 -0500, Harry wrote:


Wait until the teabaggers start blowing up buildings, planes, and
crowds
of people.

Yeah, but that wouldn't be terrorism. That would be patriotism, if I
understand the teabaggers correctly.



i'd be interested in seeing the links between the teabaggers and the
KKK. The teabaggers include a large number of latino haters, and, of
course, so does the KKK.

Maybe herring knows. He's a self-outed hater of latinos and blacks,
and a teabagger sympathizer.




So now being Patriotic is to hate Illegal Immigrant Latinos and Black
Americans and be a KKK Member? How white of you.


Do you think racism only come in white?

Canuck57[_9_] December 29th 09 12:15 AM

Airplane Security
 
On 28/12/2009 12:24 PM, Steve B wrote:
wrote in message
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On 28/12/2009 6:53 AM, BAR wrote:
In inet,
says...

On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 07:08:39 -0500, Jim wrote:


That is exactly one of the problems with profiling. You don't spend
20% of the resources. You spend 80% of the resources, and ignore all
the rest. Put two people on an airplane, one a young Muslim man, the
other an older white woman. The woman is carrying the bomb. While all
the airport security focuses on the young Muslim man, the woman slips
on board.

Rediculous. You would never get a job as a profiler.

Yup, but consider, this last incident was caused by a black Nigerian,
not
an Arab. As I said before, if you want to profile a terrorist, fine,
but
if you think racial profiling is the answer, you are going to miss a lot
of terrorists, McVeigh, the Unabomber, the Shoe Bomber, Black Widows,
etc., etc.

The majority religion in Nigeria is Islam.


AND a visit to Yemen...quick google search on "yemen terrorism" has quit a
few hits. Including a ship bombing.

This guy had terrorist almost written all over him.
Nigeria-Yemem-Amsterdam-Detroit isn't a common or direct flight plan.


Has anyone checked the thought that he might be an Obama relative coming in
for an auto exec position?

Hey, just asking.

Steve


LMAO... that was funny. But work in Obama's heritage is Kenya, but who
knows...AIDS is popular over there as people do get around.

Bill McKee December 29th 09 12:20 AM

Airplane Security
 

"thunder" wrote in message
t...
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 20:56:02 -0700, Canuck57 wrote:

I never claimed profiling will get them all, just a method of spending
20% of the resources for 80% of the effect. Then you have 80% of the
resources to go after 20% that remain. Increases the odds of being
effective.


That is exactly one of the problems with profiling. You don't spend 20%
of the resources. You spend 80% of the resources, and ignore all the
rest. Put two people on an airplane, one a young Muslim man, the other
an older white woman. The woman is carrying the bomb. While all the
airport security focuses on the young Muslim man, the woman slips on
board.


Israel uses exactly that on their airlines. Profiling. Seems to be working
well for them.



Canuck57[_9_] December 29th 09 12:28 AM

Airplane Security/Am I profiling?
 
On 28/12/2009 12:23 PM, Steve B wrote:
Is it me, or what? Am I profiling?

This is JUST for the people who've actually been to an airport on a trip in
the last year. Others, please STFU.


I should STFU but I will not. Gave up flying when I don't absolutely,
and I mean have no other choice but to do it. Haven't been on a filthy
bug infested smelly dirty plane in 2 years now.

Okay. This is just me.

I have noticed that A LOT of airport workers, particularly TSA employees,
are of a minority group. (there's that profiling I warned you about) All
look like they are either in a trance, or they want to rip the lining out of
your baggage in search of some elusive contraband. They're either over the
top or sleep walking. No in between. All watching their watch to see when
their next break is.


Yep, was like that 2 years ago. Guess it hasn't changed much.

Flying back from Hawaii, I had a bottle of EXPENSIVE cologne confiscated,
yet they left a FULL SIZED PAIR OF HAIR SCISSORS in the same shave kit.


You know it didn't go to waste.

Are all these people steered to these jobs from ACORN? Are they SEIU
members?


Bigger government, more votes to keep the statism farce a going strong.

I mean, it COULD be me, but I see a pattern here. The term Airport Security
makes me feel very unsecure. And actual PROFILING isn't used enough, IMHO.

Rant off

Steve


The more people that realize the rouse, the sooner we will be the wiser.

Better to fight terrorism with terrorism. Send a hit squad to Yemen and
Nigeria and kill off those that supported him including family. Then
execute him.

After all, his attempt was to leave many families without loved ones.

Harry[_2_] December 29th 09 12:31 AM

Airplane Security/Am I profiling?
 
Canuck57 wrote:

Better to fight terrorism with terrorism. Send a hit squad to Yemen and
Nigeria and kill off those that supported him including family. Then
execute him.

After all, his attempt was to leave many families without loved ones.


One thing we can always count upon from the right - incredible stupidity.


Canuck57[_9_] December 29th 09 12:32 AM

Airplane Security/Am I profiling?
 
On 28/12/2009 1:28 PM, John H wrote:
On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 11:23:03 -0800, "Steve B"
wrote:

Is it me, or what? Am I profiling?

This is JUST for the people who've actually been to an airport on a trip in
the last year. Others, please STFU.

Okay. This is just me.

I have noticed that A LOT of airport workers, particularly TSA employees,
are of a minority group. (there's that profiling I warned you about) All
look like they are either in a trance, or they want to rip the lining out of
your baggage in search of some elusive contraband. They're either over the
top or sleep walking. No in between. All watching their watch to see when
their next break is.

Flying back from Hawaii, I had a bottle of EXPENSIVE cologne confiscated,
yet they left a FULL SIZED PAIR OF HAIR SCISSORS in the same shave kit.

Are all these people steered to these jobs from ACORN? Are they SEIU
members?

I mean, it COULD be me, but I see a pattern here. The term Airport Security
makes me feel very unsecure. And actual PROFILING isn't used enough, IMHO.

Rant off

Steve


I got called off to the side where a big lady reached into my bag and
asked, "Is this yours?"

To which I replied, "Yes Ma'am."

She said, "What is it? You know you can't take this on the airplane?"

I said, "It's a jar of homemade blueberry jam I was going to give my
brother. You're welcome to open it and taste it."

But, she wouldn't give it back. Those were some careful people. They
definitely fit your profile. My ballpoint pen was in my pocket. Shoved
up the nose of a stewardess, there'd be a dead stewardess. But,
ballpoints are OK. I don't understand it either.


A rouse. Pony show for the public. Instead of that ball point pen
entering the stewardess nose, consider it can also enter the terrorists
ear pretty quick.

Keep it handy next time you fly.


John H[_11_] December 29th 09 12:36 AM

Airplane Security/Am I profiling?
 
On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 17:32:21 -0700, Canuck57
wrote:

On 28/12/2009 1:28 PM, John H wrote:
On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 11:23:03 -0800, "Steve B"
wrote:

Is it me, or what? Am I profiling?

This is JUST for the people who've actually been to an airport on a trip in
the last year. Others, please STFU.

Okay. This is just me.

I have noticed that A LOT of airport workers, particularly TSA employees,
are of a minority group. (there's that profiling I warned you about) All
look like they are either in a trance, or they want to rip the lining out of
your baggage in search of some elusive contraband. They're either over the
top or sleep walking. No in between. All watching their watch to see when
their next break is.

Flying back from Hawaii, I had a bottle of EXPENSIVE cologne confiscated,
yet they left a FULL SIZED PAIR OF HAIR SCISSORS in the same shave kit.

Are all these people steered to these jobs from ACORN? Are they SEIU
members?

I mean, it COULD be me, but I see a pattern here. The term Airport Security
makes me feel very unsecure. And actual PROFILING isn't used enough, IMHO.

Rant off

Steve


I got called off to the side where a big lady reached into my bag and
asked, "Is this yours?"

To which I replied, "Yes Ma'am."

She said, "What is it? You know you can't take this on the airplane?"

I said, "It's a jar of homemade blueberry jam I was going to give my
brother. You're welcome to open it and taste it."

But, she wouldn't give it back. Those were some careful people. They
definitely fit your profile. My ballpoint pen was in my pocket. Shoved
up the nose of a stewardess, there'd be a dead stewardess. But,
ballpoints are OK. I don't understand it either.


A rouse. Pony show for the public. Instead of that ball point pen
entering the stewardess nose, consider it can also enter the terrorists
ear pretty quick.

Keep it handy next time you fly.


Trouble is - the terrorist will have his pen up the stewardess's nose.

Oh well, this latest guy will get a liberal judge, a year in prison,
minus time served, and be back in Yemen plotting another one.

I'm surprised the administration is even using the word 'terrorist'
again. Maybe they're learning something after all. All 'Bama's
apologizing for America hasn't changed much.
--

John H

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the
gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."

Churchill

Canuck57[_9_] December 29th 09 12:37 AM

Airplane Security
 
On 28/12/2009 5:06 AM, Jim wrote:
Canuck57 wrote:
On 27/12/2009 8:39 PM, thunder wrote:
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 20:05:55 -0700, Canuck57 wrote:


I don't make them up. How many air plane incidents in say the last 10
years involve other than young male islam/muslims?

Never heard of the Black Widows?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahidka

Don't give me the hate group nonsense. If I am looking for terrorists I
am not going to be wearing a turbin padding down an eldery white nun
living 30 years in Arkansas I am going to get no where.

Profiling has had some successes with single individuals. When you are
talking of a terrorist organization, it will just look for whackos that
don't fit the profile. By the way, Mohammed Atta doesn't fit your
profile. He was 33.


Looks like Ruskies have some fiesty and deadly women. Did they do a US
airliner?

33, he would fit. I said young, not kids... say 14 to 40.

I never claimed profiling will get them all, just a method of spending
20% of the resources for 80% of the effect. Then you have 80% of the
resources to go after 20% that remain. Increases the odds of being
effective.

And add all terrorist groups, even domestic skin heads.

Although you are correct, profiling shines a light on certain races and
classes of people. We can't allow that to happen. ;-)


It isn't fredoom of speach, nor freedom to bomb, it would usually be 5
minutes of questions and not a carte blanc to just walk on unchecked.
Bet some skilled border type would have nailed him if profiles and some
special 5 minutes of questions rattled his cage.

Ever wonder why border people ask the dumbest things? It is to test
your reaction. A discovery of your demeanor if you will.

It isn't like a back room beating is going to happen. Unless of course
some drugs/chemical explosives drops from their crotch.


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