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Vic Smith December 27th 09 03:40 AM

Airplane Security
 
Why not just make flyers strip and issue hospital gowns and booties?
They can pick up their clothes at the arrival point.
What's the big deal?
They can modify the hospital gowns so your ass isn't in the wind.
Maybe go to a trousers and shirt kind.
Let everybody carry 20 bucks aboard to buy stuff from the plane gedunk
in case they just have to have a Snickers or a Coca-Cola.
Crew can organize prayer sessions (multi-denomination), group
sing-alongs and charade games to keep folks busy while in the air.
Those who want to can just watch a movie.
What's the problem here? Why aren't they doing this?
No more long security waits at the airport, and you can reduce costs
by eliminating most of the TSA personnel.
Be more fun flying too. An adventure every time.
Looks doable to me. I must add though, that I don't fly.
What say you fliers?

--Vic

lil abner December 27th 09 03:43 AM

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Vic Smith wrote:
Why not just make flyers strip and issue hospital gowns and booties?
They can pick up their clothes at the arrival point.
What's the big deal?
They can modify the hospital gowns so your ass isn't in the wind.
Maybe go to a trousers and shirt kind.
Let everybody carry 20 bucks aboard to buy stuff from the plane gedunk
in case they just have to have a Snickers or a Coca-Cola.
Crew can organize prayer sessions (multi-denomination), group
sing-alongs and charade games to keep folks busy while in the air.
Those who want to can just watch a movie.
What's the problem here? Why aren't they doing this?
No more long security waits at the airport, and you can reduce costs
by eliminating most of the TSA personnel.
Be more fun flying too. An adventure every time.
Looks doable to me. I must add though, that I don't fly.
What say you fliers?

--Vic

Don't think I could stand that much adventure. :)

nom=de=plume December 27th 09 05:55 AM

Airplane Security
 
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
Why not just make flyers strip and issue hospital gowns and booties?
They can pick up their clothes at the arrival point.
What's the big deal?
They can modify the hospital gowns so your ass isn't in the wind.
Maybe go to a trousers and shirt kind.
Let everybody carry 20 bucks aboard to buy stuff from the plane gedunk
in case they just have to have a Snickers or a Coca-Cola.
Crew can organize prayer sessions (multi-denomination), group
sing-alongs and charade games to keep folks busy while in the air.
Those who want to can just watch a movie.
What's the problem here? Why aren't they doing this?
No more long security waits at the airport, and you can reduce costs
by eliminating most of the TSA personnel.
Be more fun flying too. An adventure every time.
Looks doable to me. I must add though, that I don't fly.
What say you fliers?

--Vic



I'd rather die see some people naked.

--
Nom=de=Plume



Bill McKee December 27th 09 07:27 AM

Airplane Security
 

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
Why not just make flyers strip and issue hospital gowns and booties?
They can pick up their clothes at the arrival point.
What's the big deal?
They can modify the hospital gowns so your ass isn't in the wind.
Maybe go to a trousers and shirt kind.
Let everybody carry 20 bucks aboard to buy stuff from the plane gedunk
in case they just have to have a Snickers or a Coca-Cola.
Crew can organize prayer sessions (multi-denomination), group
sing-alongs and charade games to keep folks busy while in the air.
Those who want to can just watch a movie.
What's the problem here? Why aren't they doing this?
No more long security waits at the airport, and you can reduce costs
by eliminating most of the TSA personnel.
Be more fun flying too. An adventure every time.
Looks doable to me. I must add though, that I don't fly.
What say you fliers?

--Vic


Just issue everybody a weapon. Knifes preferred. Think someone will risk
****ing off all those knife wielders?



Harry[_2_] December 27th 09 12:08 PM

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nom=de=plume wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
Why not just make flyers strip and issue hospital gowns and booties?
They can pick up their clothes at the arrival point.
What's the big deal?
They can modify the hospital gowns so your ass isn't in the wind.
Maybe go to a trousers and shirt kind.
Let everybody carry 20 bucks aboard to buy stuff from the plane gedunk
in case they just have to have a Snickers or a Coca-Cola.
Crew can organize prayer sessions (multi-denomination), group
sing-alongs and charade games to keep folks busy while in the air.
Those who want to can just watch a movie.
What's the problem here? Why aren't they doing this?
No more long security waits at the airport, and you can reduce costs
by eliminating most of the TSA personnel.
Be more fun flying too. An adventure every time.
Looks doable to me. I must add though, that I don't fly.
What say you fliers?

--Vic



I'd rather die see some people naked.

Specifics please. Maybe we can help.

--

It's flattering to see so many of you turds spoofing me.

Jim December 27th 09 01:24 PM

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Bill McKee wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
Why not just make flyers strip and issue hospital gowns and booties?
They can pick up their clothes at the arrival point.
What's the big deal?
They can modify the hospital gowns so your ass isn't in the wind.
Maybe go to a trousers and shirt kind.
Let everybody carry 20 bucks aboard to buy stuff from the plane gedunk
in case they just have to have a Snickers or a Coca-Cola.
Crew can organize prayer sessions (multi-denomination), group
sing-alongs and charade games to keep folks busy while in the air.
Those who want to can just watch a movie.
What's the problem here? Why aren't they doing this?
No more long security waits at the airport, and you can reduce costs
by eliminating most of the TSA personnel.
Be more fun flying too. An adventure every time.
Looks doable to me. I must add though, that I don't fly.
What say you fliers?

--Vic


Just issue everybody a weapon. Knifes preferred. Think someone will risk
****ing off all those knife wielders?


Ever notice how whacko's always choose gun free zones to do their mischief?

thunder December 27th 09 01:38 PM

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On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 08:24:10 -0500, Jim wrote:


Ever notice how whacko's always choose gun free zones to do their
mischief?


Yeah, like the whacko that shot the four police officers in Washington
state? Or, the whacko that killed all those people at Ft. Hood? Gun
free, my ass. Whackos choose whatever venue that will give them the
highest profile. This last whacko, you'll note, was willing to go down
with the plane. I don't think his dying was a consideration to him.

mmc December 27th 09 03:01 PM

Airplane Security
 

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
Why not just make flyers strip and issue hospital gowns and booties?
They can pick up their clothes at the arrival point.
What's the big deal?
They can modify the hospital gowns so your ass isn't in the wind.
Maybe go to a trousers and shirt kind.
Let everybody carry 20 bucks aboard to buy stuff from the plane gedunk
in case they just have to have a Snickers or a Coca-Cola.
Crew can organize prayer sessions (multi-denomination), group
sing-alongs and charade games to keep folks busy while in the air.
Those who want to can just watch a movie.
What's the problem here? Why aren't they doing this?
No more long security waits at the airport, and you can reduce costs
by eliminating most of the TSA personnel.
Be more fun flying too. An adventure every time.
Looks doable to me. I must add though, that I don't fly.
What say you fliers?

--Vic


Or, TSA could pay attention to the no fly list and not let the jerk on board
in the first place. They may be too busy checking to make sure your 3 oz.
shampoo bottle is properly secured in it's 1 qt. anti- terrorist ziplock bag
to be bothered with a heads up from the Brits.
TSA is a poor substitute for security. It's been crap since it was set up
and not likely to get better.
I know the libs will squeal at this but mayube a little racial profiling is
in order? Like, check out people with obviously Muslim names a little more
closely than pasty white "Bubba Joe Smith" from Texarkana (apologies if
Bubba Joe actually resides on this group).



thunder December 27th 09 04:25 PM

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On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 10:01:14 -0500, mmc wrote:


I know the libs will squeal at this but mayube a little racial profiling
is in order? Like, check out people with obviously Muslim names a little
more closely than pasty white "Bubba Joe Smith" from Texarkana
(apologies if Bubba Joe actually resides on this group).


Yup, racial profiling would have caught Timothy McVeigh and the
Unabomber. If you want to use terrorist profiling, fine, but concentrate
on racial profiling the true terrorists can slip through. Guys, like
this, for instance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Yahiye_Gadahn

Canuck57[_9_] December 27th 09 04:28 PM

Airplane Security
 
On 26/12/2009 8:40 PM, Vic Smith wrote:
Why not just make flyers strip and issue hospital gowns and booties?
They can pick up their clothes at the arrival point.
What's the big deal?


No one wants to see that unless you are on a plane full of chear leaders.

They can modify the hospital gowns so your ass isn't in the wind.


And crap on the seat.

Maybe go to a trousers and shirt kind.
Let everybody carry 20 bucks aboard to buy stuff from the plane gedunk
in case they just have to have a Snickers or a Coca-Cola.
Crew can organize prayer sessions (multi-denomination), group
sing-alongs and charade games to keep folks busy while in the air.
Those who want to can just watch a movie.
What's the problem here? Why aren't they doing this?
No more long security waits at the airport, and you can reduce costs
by eliminating most of the TSA personnel.
Be more fun flying too. An adventure every time.
Looks doable to me. I must add though, that I don't fly.
What say you fliers?

--Vic


I have a better idea. Profiling. Single, muslim/islamic, male single
or in packs of up to 5 or 6. Born in Africa or the middle east. Full
body x-ray or no boarding.

Life at Gitmo if anything hazardous is found and convicted.

Canuck57[_9_] December 27th 09 04:38 PM

Airplane Security
 
On 27/12/2009 8:01 AM, mmc wrote:
"Vic wrote in message
...
Why not just make flyers strip and issue hospital gowns and booties?
They can pick up their clothes at the arrival point.
What's the big deal?
They can modify the hospital gowns so your ass isn't in the wind.
Maybe go to a trousers and shirt kind.
Let everybody carry 20 bucks aboard to buy stuff from the plane gedunk
in case they just have to have a Snickers or a Coca-Cola.
Crew can organize prayer sessions (multi-denomination), group
sing-alongs and charade games to keep folks busy while in the air.
Those who want to can just watch a movie.
What's the problem here? Why aren't they doing this?
No more long security waits at the airport, and you can reduce costs
by eliminating most of the TSA personnel.
Be more fun flying too. An adventure every time.
Looks doable to me. I must add though, that I don't fly.
What say you fliers?

--Vic


Or, TSA could pay attention to the no fly list and not let the jerk on board
in the first place. They may be too busy checking to make sure your 3 oz.
shampoo bottle is properly secured in it's 1 qt. anti- terrorist ziplock bag
to be bothered with a heads up from the Brits.
TSA is a poor substitute for security. It's been crap since it was set up
and not likely to get better.
I know the libs will squeal at this but mayube a little racial profiling is
in order? Like, check out people with obviously Muslim names a little more
closely than pasty white "Bubba Joe Smith" from Texarkana (apologies if
Bubba Joe actually resides on this group).


Give Fed-Ex a multi-billion dollar contract. Seriously.

Fed-Ex can track a package moving around the world in seconds with a
certian high degree of accuracy.

The US goverment with trillions can't track its own people to know you
or I have lived peacefully in a relatively stationary lifestyle for
however long we have been alive and moved to or from.

Profiling, couldn't agree more. This single muslim young male should
have been pegged for a good roust right off the bat.

And if muslim and islamic mostly young males don't like it, consider the
facts that muslims haven't been doing much to let others knwo of pending
violence. And I really doubt these idiots operate without support,
without family, without money...

Take the place this recent perp rented in London...it wasn't exactly a
cheap place to stay. Could have been a cover... would love to know
where he got money to live on.

BAR[_2_] December 27th 09 04:40 PM

Airplane Security
 
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 10:01:14 -0500, mmc wrote:


I know the libs will squeal at this but mayube a little racial profiling
is in order? Like, check out people with obviously Muslim names a little
more closely than pasty white "Bubba Joe Smith" from Texarkana
(apologies if Bubba Joe actually resides on this group).


Yup, racial profiling would have caught Timothy McVeigh and the
Unabomber. If you want to use terrorist profiling, fine, but concentrate
on racial profiling the true terrorists can slip through. Guys, like
this, for instance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Yahiye_Gadahn

You have to start somewhere and 99.9999% of the attacks on and within
the US have been originated by followers of Islam and conducted by
followers of Islam.

Why is profiling of serial killers allowable?

Why is profiling of sexual predators and pedophiles allowable?

It appears that we only defer to Islam when profiling could do the most
good.





nom=de=plume December 27th 09 06:23 PM

Airplane Security
 
"thunder" wrote in message
t...
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 10:01:14 -0500, mmc wrote:


I know the libs will squeal at this but mayube a little racial profiling
is in order? Like, check out people with obviously Muslim names a little
more closely than pasty white "Bubba Joe Smith" from Texarkana
(apologies if Bubba Joe actually resides on this group).


Yup, racial profiling would have caught Timothy McVeigh and the
Unabomber. If you want to use terrorist profiling, fine, but concentrate
on racial profiling the true terrorists can slip through. Guys, like
this, for instance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Yahiye_Gadahn



Sure is easy to start down the slippery slope of racism and bigotry isn't
it.

--
Nom=de=Plume



nom=de=plume December 27th 09 06:24 PM

Airplane Security
 
"Canuck57" wrote in message
...
On 26/12/2009 8:40 PM, Vic Smith wrote:
Why not just make flyers strip and issue hospital gowns and booties?
They can pick up their clothes at the arrival point.
What's the big deal?


No one wants to see that unless you are on a plane full of chear leaders.

They can modify the hospital gowns so your ass isn't in the wind.


And crap on the seat.

Maybe go to a trousers and shirt kind.
Let everybody carry 20 bucks aboard to buy stuff from the plane gedunk
in case they just have to have a Snickers or a Coca-Cola.
Crew can organize prayer sessions (multi-denomination), group
sing-alongs and charade games to keep folks busy while in the air.
Those who want to can just watch a movie.
What's the problem here? Why aren't they doing this?
No more long security waits at the airport, and you can reduce costs
by eliminating most of the TSA personnel.
Be more fun flying too. An adventure every time.
Looks doable to me. I must add though, that I don't fly.
What say you fliers?

--Vic


I have a better idea. Profiling. Single, muslim/islamic, male single or
in packs of up to 5 or 6. Born in Africa or the middle east. Full body
x-ray or no boarding.

Life at Gitmo if anything hazardous is found and convicted.



You're an idiot if you think that would work. See thunder's post.

--
Nom=de=Plume



Harry[_2_] December 27th 09 06:27 PM

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On 12/27/09 1:23 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
t...
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 10:01:14 -0500, mmc wrote:


I know the libs will squeal at this but mayube a little racial profiling
is in order? Like, check out people with obviously Muslim names a little
more closely than pasty white "Bubba Joe Smith" from Texarkana
(apologies if Bubba Joe actually resides on this group).


Yup, racial profiling would have caught Timothy McVeigh and the
Unabomber. If you want to use terrorist profiling, fine, but concentrate
on racial profiling the true terrorists can slip through. Guys, like
this, for instance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Yahiye_Gadahn



Sure is easy to start down the slippery slope of racism and bigotry isn't
it.


Adam is the result of 'christian' home schooling and therefore was
preprogrammed for simplemindedness before al qaeda got to him. :)

nom=de=plume December 27th 09 07:18 PM

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wrote in message
...
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 10:23:26 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"thunder" wrote in message
net...
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 10:01:14 -0500, mmc wrote:


I know the libs will squeal at this but mayube a little racial
profiling
is in order? Like, check out people with obviously Muslim names a
little
more closely than pasty white "Bubba Joe Smith" from Texarkana
(apologies if Bubba Joe actually resides on this group).

Yup, racial profiling would have caught Timothy McVeigh and the
Unabomber. If you want to use terrorist profiling, fine, but
concentrate
on racial profiling the true terrorists can slip through. Guys, like
this, for instance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Yahiye_Gadahn



Sure is easy to start down the slippery slope of racism and bigotry isn't
it.


I suppose we could adopt the FDR model and lock up everyone with a
middle eastern name. ;-)



Great example of that slippery slope...

--
Nom=de=Plume



Harry[_2_] December 27th 09 07:28 PM

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On 12/27/09 2:18 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 10:23:26 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
t...
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 10:01:14 -0500, mmc wrote:


I know the libs will squeal at this but mayube a little racial
profiling
is in order? Like, check out people with obviously Muslim names a
little
more closely than pasty white "Bubba Joe Smith" from Texarkana
(apologies if Bubba Joe actually resides on this group).

Yup, racial profiling would have caught Timothy McVeigh and the
Unabomber. If you want to use terrorist profiling, fine, but
concentrate
on racial profiling the true terrorists can slip through. Guys, like
this, for instance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Yahiye_Gadahn


Sure is easy to start down the slippery slope of racism and bigotry isn't
it.


I suppose we could adopt the FDR model and lock up everyone with a
middle eastern name. ;-)



Great example of that slippery slope...


I'd start with the teabaggers.

On the other hand, and on another but connected subject, I'm not sure it
would be a bad idea to shut down immigration to this country entirely
until actual unemployment drops below 5%.



mmc December 27th 09 07:30 PM

Airplane Security
 

"thunder" wrote in message
t...
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 10:01:14 -0500, mmc wrote:


I know the libs will squeal at this but mayube a little racial profiling
is in order? Like, check out people with obviously Muslim names a little
more closely than pasty white "Bubba Joe Smith" from Texarkana
(apologies if Bubba Joe actually resides on this group).


Yup, racial profiling would have caught Timothy McVeigh and the
Unabomber. If you want to use terrorist profiling, fine, but concentrate
on racial profiling the true terrorists can slip through. Guys, like
this, for instance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Yahiye_Gadahn


No one said profiling would catch all the bad guys but if the threat is from
a people from a specific ethnic group, deliberately ignoring people from
that group because of "political correctness" is it's own kind of crazy.
If my neighborhood was experiencing a rash of buglaries and the suspects,
based on prior arrests, were teenage anglo males, would I be incorrect in
being aware of this and watching people that fit that description?
Is it ok to profile white people?



Canuck57[_9_] December 27th 09 07:36 PM

Airplane Security
 
On 27/12/2009 9:25 AM, thunder wrote:
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 10:01:14 -0500, mmc wrote:


I know the libs will squeal at this but mayube a little racial profiling
is in order? Like, check out people with obviously Muslim names a little
more closely than pasty white "Bubba Joe Smith" from Texarkana
(apologies if Bubba Joe actually resides on this group).


Yup, racial profiling would have caught Timothy McVeigh and the
Unabomber. If you want to use terrorist profiling, fine, but concentrate
on racial profiling the true terrorists can slip through. Guys, like
this, for instance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Yahiye_Gadahn


Given time, inginuity anyone can slip through. Given we don't have the
resources to pollygraph every flyer with an intensive background check,
no mater what one does it is going to boil down to getting most of them
most of the time.

Adam Yahiye Gadahn would have matched young male muslim/islam.

One Timothy McVeigh and how many muslim/islamic nut cases?

nom=de=plume December 27th 09 08:18 PM

Airplane Security
 
"Canuck57" wrote in message
...
On 27/12/2009 9:25 AM, thunder wrote:
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 10:01:14 -0500, mmc wrote:


I know the libs will squeal at this but mayube a little racial profiling
is in order? Like, check out people with obviously Muslim names a little
more closely than pasty white "Bubba Joe Smith" from Texarkana
(apologies if Bubba Joe actually resides on this group).


Yup, racial profiling would have caught Timothy McVeigh and the
Unabomber. If you want to use terrorist profiling, fine, but concentrate
on racial profiling the true terrorists can slip through. Guys, like
this, for instance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Yahiye_Gadahn


Given time, inginuity anyone can slip through. Given we don't have the
resources to pollygraph every flyer with an intensive background check, no
mater what one does it is going to boil down to getting most of them most
of the time.

Adam Yahiye Gadahn would have matched young male muslim/islam.

One Timothy McVeigh and how many muslim/islamic nut cases?



http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/02/26/hat...ort/index.html

--
Nom=de=Plume



Bill McKee December 27th 09 10:22 PM

Airplane Security
 

"thunder" wrote in message
t...
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 08:24:10 -0500, Jim wrote:


Ever notice how whacko's always choose gun free zones to do their
mischief?


Yeah, like the whacko that shot the four police officers in Washington
state? Or, the whacko that killed all those people at Ft. Hood? Gun
free, my ass. Whackos choose whatever venue that will give them the
highest profile. This last whacko, you'll note, was willing to go down
with the plane. I don't think his dying was a consideration to him.


Actually Ft. Hood is a gun free zone as long as you are not at the range,
etc.



BAR[_2_] December 27th 09 11:01 PM

Airplane Security
 
In article ,
says...

"thunder" wrote in message
t...
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 08:24:10 -0500, Jim wrote:


Ever notice how whacko's always choose gun free zones to do their
mischief?


Yeah, like the whacko that shot the four police officers in Washington
state? Or, the whacko that killed all those people at Ft. Hood? Gun
free, my ass. Whackos choose whatever venue that will give them the
highest profile. This last whacko, you'll note, was willing to go down
with the plane. I don't think his dying was a consideration to him.


Actually Ft. Hood is a gun free zone as long as you are not at the range,
etc.


All military installations are "gun free zones." If you live on base you
are required to store your firearms at the armory.

nom=de=plume December 27th 09 11:06 PM

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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
m...

"thunder" wrote in message
t...
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 08:24:10 -0500, Jim wrote:


Ever notice how whacko's always choose gun free zones to do their
mischief?


Yeah, like the whacko that shot the four police officers in Washington
state? Or, the whacko that killed all those people at Ft. Hood? Gun
free, my ass. Whackos choose whatever venue that will give them the
highest profile. This last whacko, you'll note, was willing to go down
with the plane. I don't think his dying was a consideration to him.


Actually Ft. Hood is a gun free zone as long as you are not at the range,
etc.



Interesting. I wonder why the military thought it was important to have a
gun free zone on a military base. Perhaps in the vast majority of cases it
makes better sense. Of course, there's the issue of "military intelligence."
Aren't handguns called weapons by the military?

--
Nom=de=Plume



Tom Francis[_2_] December 27th 09 11:35 PM

Airplane Security
 
On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 21:40:14 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

What say you fliers?


Have to ask Janet "The System Worked" Napolitano.

"DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano said that the thwarting of the attempt
to blow up the Amsterdam-Detroit flight this week demonstrated that
“the system worked.”

Asked by CNN’s Candy Crowley on “State of the Union” how that could be
possible when the young Nigerian who sought to set off the bomb was
able to smuggle explosive liquid onto the flight, Napolitano
responded: “We’re asking the same questions.”

Let me see if I got this right - an admitted jihadist, father warned
DHS and FBI, he got on a flight with explosives and injectable ignitor
fluid, was on a watch list and still got a visa, almost set one of the
devices off, was subdued by the passengers until landing.

Yep - the system worked alright - perfectly if you live in Obamaland
where everything is a B+ effort and George Orwell is your language
expert.

You know - I'm normally incredulous about some of the things that
politicians say and do because most of them are morons, but this is so
outrageous, it's incomprehensible.

She needs to be fired and fired now. That's twice under her watch
something has gone hideously wrong on an air plane and passengers have
had to take action.

BAR[_2_] December 27th 09 11:59 PM

Airplane Security
 
In article ,
rg says...

On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 21:40:14 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

What say you fliers?


Have to ask Janet "The System Worked" Napolitano.

"DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano said that the thwarting of the attempt
to blow up the Amsterdam-Detroit flight this week demonstrated that
?the system worked.?

Asked by CNN?s Candy Crowley on ?State of the Union? how that could be
possible when the young Nigerian who sought to set off the bomb was
able to smuggle explosive liquid onto the flight, Napolitano
responded: ?We?re asking the same questions.?

Let me see if I got this right - an admitted jihadist, father warned
DHS and FBI, he got on a flight with explosives and injectable ignitor
fluid, was on a watch list and still got a visa, almost set one of the
devices off, was subdued by the passengers until landing.

Yep - the system worked alright - perfectly if you live in Obamaland
where everything is a B+ effort and George Orwell is your language
expert.

You know - I'm normally incredulous about some of the things that
politicians say and do because most of them are morons, but this is so
outrageous, it's incomprehensible.

She needs to be fired and fired now. That's twice under her watch
something has gone hideously wrong on an air plane and passengers have
had to take action.


But, Tom she is a lawyer and was a prosecutor, attorney general and
Governor. She can't be incompetent. At least that's what someone pointed
out to me earlier today when I called her competence into question too.





Harry[_2_] December 28th 09 12:23 AM

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On 12/27/09 6:35 PM, Tom Francis wrote:
On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 21:40:14 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

What say you fliers?


Have to ask Janet "The System Worked" Napolitano.

"DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano said that the thwarting of the attempt
to blow up the Amsterdam-Detroit flight this week demonstrated that
“the system worked.”

Asked by CNN’s Candy Crowley on “State of the Union” how that could be
possible when the young Nigerian who sought to set off the bomb was
able to smuggle explosive liquid onto the flight, Napolitano
responded: “We’re asking the same questions.”

Let me see if I got this right - an admitted jihadist, father warned
DHS and FBI, he got on a flight with explosives and injectable ignitor
fluid, was on a watch list and still got a visa, almost set one of the
devices off, was subdued by the passengers until landing.

Yep - the system worked alright - perfectly if you live in Obamaland
where everything is a B+ effort and George Orwell is your language
expert.

You know - I'm normally incredulous about some of the things that
politicians say and do because most of them are morons, but this is so
outrageous, it's incomprehensible.

She needs to be fired and fired now. That's twice under her watch
something has gone hideously wrong on an air plane and passengers have
had to take action.



No one in charge of anything gives a **** what you think, lawntractor man.

nom=de=plume December 28th 09 12:25 AM

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"Tom Francis" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 21:40:14 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

What say you fliers?


Have to ask Janet "The System Worked" Napolitano.

"DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano said that the thwarting of the attempt
to blow up the Amsterdam-Detroit flight this week demonstrated that
"the system worked."

Asked by CNN's Candy Crowley on "State of the Union" how that could be
possible when the young Nigerian who sought to set off the bomb was
able to smuggle explosive liquid onto the flight, Napolitano
responded: "We're asking the same questions."

Let me see if I got this right - an admitted jihadist, father warned
DHS and FBI, he got on a flight with explosives and injectable ignitor
fluid, was on a watch list and still got a visa, almost set one of the
devices off, was subdued by the passengers until landing.

Yep - the system worked alright - perfectly if you live in Obamaland
where everything is a B+ effort and George Orwell is your language
expert.

You know - I'm normally incredulous about some of the things that
politicians say and do because most of them are morons, but this is so
outrageous, it's incomprehensible.

She needs to be fired and fired now. That's twice under her watch
something has gone hideously wrong on an air plane and passengers have
had to take action.



She was talking about the reaction after there was a security breach. The
plane landed safely. Additional safety measures are being put in place,
something that should have been done during the last administration. This
has been a known problem for quite a while.

If anything, she's guilty of mis-speaking, so you should probably take a
chill pill.

--
Nom=de=Plume



Rob December 28th 09 12:46 AM

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nom=de=plume wrote:
"Vic wrote in message
...

Why not just make flyers strip and issue hospital gowns and booties?
They can pick up their clothes at the arrival point.
What's the big deal?
They can modify the hospital gowns so your ass isn't in the wind.
Maybe go to a trousers and shirt kind.
Let everybody carry 20 bucks aboard to buy stuff from the plane gedunk
in case they just have to have a Snickers or a Coca-Cola.
Crew can organize prayer sessions (multi-denomination), group
sing-alongs and charade games to keep folks busy while in the air.
Those who want to can just watch a movie.
What's the problem here? Why aren't they doing this?
No more long security waits at the airport, and you can reduce costs
by eliminating most of the TSA personnel.
Be more fun flying too. An adventure every time.
Looks doable to me. I must add though, that I don't fly.
What say you fliers?

--Vic


I'd rather die see some people naked.


In my best dumb Donnie impression....

Say...what?

Rob December 28th 09 12:49 AM

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nom=de=plume wrote:

She was talking about the reaction after there was a security breach. The
plane landed safely. Additional safety measures are being put in place,
something that should have been done during the last administration. This
has been a known problem for quite a while.

If anything, she's guilty of mis-speaking, so you should probably take a
chill pill.


"Additional safety measures are being put in place, something that
should have been done during the last administration. This has been a
known problem for quite a while."

Really? Got a cite for that one?

No? Of course you don't.

TopBassDog December 28th 09 12:54 AM

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On Dec 27, 6:23*pm, Harry wrote:
On 12/27/09 6:35 PM, Tom Francis wrote:



On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 21:40:14 -0600, Vic Smith
*wrote:


What say you fliers?


Have to ask Janet "The System Worked" Napolitano.


"DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano said that the thwarting of the attempt
to blow up the Amsterdam-Detroit flight this week demonstrated that
the system worked.


Asked by CNN s Candy Crowley on State of the Union how that could be
possible when the young Nigerian who sought to set off the bomb was
able to smuggle explosive liquid onto the flight, Napolitano
responded: We re asking the same questions.


Let me see if I got this right - an admitted jihadist, father warned
DHS and FBI, he got on a flight with explosives and injectable ignitor
fluid, was on a watch list and still got a visa, almost set one of the
devices off, was subdued by the passengers until landing.


Yep - the system worked alright - perfectly if you *live in Obamaland
where everything is a B+ effort and George Orwell is your language
expert.


You know - I'm normally incredulous about some of the things that
politicians say and do because most of them are morons, but this is so
outrageous, it's incomprehensible.


She needs to be fired and fired now. *That's twice under her watch
something has gone hideously wrong on an air plane and passengers have
had to take action.


No one in charge of anything gives a **** what you think, lawntractor man..


Herr Krause. Is this a reason you support Napolitano with such zeal?
With no irony you think on the same wave as she.

http://www.getliberty.org/content_im...0%28600%29.jpg

TopBassDog December 28th 09 12:55 AM

Airplane Security
 
On Dec 27, 6:25*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:


If anything, she's guilty of mis-speaking, so you should probably take a
chill pill.

--
Nom=de=Plume



Of course, D'Plume, you should know what "mis-speaking" is. You do so
quite regularly here.

Harry[_2_] December 28th 09 01:08 AM

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On 12/27/09 7:54 PM, TopBassDog wrote:

Herr Krause.


I'm not german, **** for brains.

nom=de=plume December 28th 09 01:36 AM

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"TopBassDog" wrote in message
...
On Dec 27, 6:25 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:


If anything, she's guilty of mis-speaking, so you should probably take a
chill pill.

--
Nom=de=Plume


Of course, D'Plume, you should know what "mis-speaking" is. You do so
quite regularly here.



I'd rather mis-speak vs. mis-think, which seems to be your forte.

--
Nom=de=Plume



TopBassDog December 28th 09 02:09 AM

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On Dec 27, 7:36*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"TopBassDog" wrote in message

...
On Dec 27, 6:25 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:



If anything, she's guilty of mis-speaking, so you should probably take a
chill pill.


--
Nom=de=Plume


Of course, D'Plume, you should know what "mis-speaking" is. You do so
quite regularly here.


I'd rather mis-speak vs. mis-think, which seems to be your forte.

--
Nom=de=Plume


But D'Plume. You love me and you know it!

TopBassDog December 28th 09 02:10 AM

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On Dec 27, 7:08*pm, Harry wrote:
On 12/27/09 7:54 PM, TopBassDog wrote:

Herr Krause.


I'm not german, **** for brains.


I know, Herr Krause. You are German.

Harry[_2_] December 28th 09 02:27 AM

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On 12/27/09 9:10 PM, TopBassDog wrote:
On Dec 27, 7:08 pm, wrote:
On 12/27/09 7:54 PM, TopBassDog wrote:

Herr Krause.


I'm not german, **** for brains.


I know, Herr Krause. You are German.


Moron.

Harry[_2_] December 28th 09 02:43 AM

Airplane Security
 
Harry wrote:
On 12/27/09 7:54 PM, TopBassDog wrote:

Herr Krause.


I'm not german, **** for brains.


Although it is not difficult to imagine why he thought I was German.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krause

--

It's flattering to see so many of you turds spoofing me.

Harry[_2_] December 28th 09 02:48 AM

Airplane Security
 
nom=de=plume wrote:
"Tom Francis" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 21:40:14 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

What say you fliers?

Have to ask Janet "The System Worked" Napolitano.

"DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano said that the thwarting of the attempt
to blow up the Amsterdam-Detroit flight this week demonstrated that
"the system worked."

Asked by CNN's Candy Crowley on "State of the Union" how that could be
possible when the young Nigerian who sought to set off the bomb was
able to smuggle explosive liquid onto the flight, Napolitano
responded: "We're asking the same questions."

Let me see if I got this right - an admitted jihadist, father warned
DHS and FBI, he got on a flight with explosives and injectable ignitor
fluid, was on a watch list and still got a visa, almost set one of the
devices off, was subdued by the passengers until landing.

Yep - the system worked alright - perfectly if you live in Obamaland
where everything is a B+ effort and George Orwell is your language
expert.

You know - I'm normally incredulous about some of the things that
politicians say and do because most of them are morons, but this is so
outrageous, it's incomprehensible.

She needs to be fired and fired now. That's twice under her watch
something has gone hideously wrong on an air plane and passengers have
had to take action.



She was talking about the reaction after there was a security breach. The
plane landed safely. Additional safety measures are being put in place,
something that should have been done during the last administration. This
has been a known problem for quite a while.

If anything, she's guilty of mis-speaking, so you should probably take a
chill pill.


Mis-speaking is akin to fabricating and lying. Hillery was caught
mis-speaking. Remember?

--

It's flattering to see so many of you turds spoofing me.

Jim December 28th 09 02:56 AM

Airplane Security
 
TopBassDog wrote:
On Dec 27, 7:36 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"TopBassDog" wrote in message

...
On Dec 27, 6:25 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:



If anything, she's guilty of mis-speaking, so you should probably take a
chill pill.
--
Nom=de=Plume
Of course, D'Plume, you should know what "mis-speaking" is. You do so
quite regularly here.

I'd rather mis-speak vs. mis-think, which seems to be your forte.

--
Nom=de=Plume


But D'Plume. You love me and you know it!


D'Plume gets a woodie when she/he/it dreams about you.
Don't take this the wrong way Bassie. ;-)

Jim December 28th 09 02:58 AM

Airplane Security
 
Rob wrote:
nom=de=plume wrote:
"Vic wrote in message
...

Why not just make flyers strip and issue hospital gowns and booties?
They can pick up their clothes at the arrival point.
What's the big deal?
They can modify the hospital gowns so your ass isn't in the wind.
Maybe go to a trousers and shirt kind.
Let everybody carry 20 bucks aboard to buy stuff from the plane gedunk
in case they just have to have a Snickers or a Coca-Cola.
Crew can organize prayer sessions (multi-denomination), group
sing-alongs and charade games to keep folks busy while in the air.
Those who want to can just watch a movie.
What's the problem here? Why aren't they doing this?
No more long security waits at the airport, and you can reduce costs
by eliminating most of the TSA personnel.
Be more fun flying too. An adventure every time.
Looks doable to me. I must add though, that I don't fly.
What say you fliers?

--Vic


I'd rather die see some people naked.


In my best dumb Donnie impression....

Say...what?


Good job. You get to be the stand in while he's away.


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