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On 12/27/09 9:56 PM, Jim wrote:
TopBassDog wrote:
On Dec 27, 7:36 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"TopBassDog" wrote in message

...

On Dec 27, 6:25 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:



If anything, she's guilty of mis-speaking, so you should probably
take a
chill pill.
--
Nom=de=Plume
Of course, D'Plume, you should know what "mis-speaking" is. You do so
quite regularly here.
I'd rather mis-speak vs. mis-think, which seems to be your forte.

--
Nom=de=Plume

But D'Plume. You love me and you know it!

D'Plume gets a woodie when she/he/it dreams about you.
Don't take this the wrong way Bassie. ;-)


You dumfoch righties sure work overtime trying to convince the rest of
the world how slimy you are.

Been downhill since your paint-chipping days in the navy, eh, jimbobboy?

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On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 10:01:14 -0500, "mmc" wrote:


Or, TSA could pay attention to the no fly list and not let the jerk on board
in the first place. They may be too busy checking to make sure your 3 oz.
shampoo bottle is properly secured in it's 1 qt. anti- terrorist ziplock bag
to be bothered with a heads up from the Brits.
TSA is a poor substitute for security. It's been crap since it was set up
and not likely to get better.
I know the libs will squeal at this but mayube a little racial profiling is
in order? Like, check out people with obviously Muslim names a little more
closely than pasty white "Bubba Joe Smith" from Texarkana (apologies if
Bubba Joe actually resides on this group).


There's always going to be somebody who doesn't get on the list.
Don't need "racial" profiling. Some of these jihadists are white.
Just check the Muslims close, especially the young ones.
Male and female. Those are the ones that blow themselves and
innocents to smithereens. Might be wrong, but I can't recall any
suicide bomber being over 30 years old.
McVeigh has nothing to do with these. Different animal.
He didn't blow himself up.
That's why arming passengers won't work either.
A .45 against 2 pounds of C-4 at 30,000 feet always has the same
winner.
El Al doesn't have a problem, but they devote smart people and a
hard-ass attitude to the weeding process.
I don't understand the attitude of fliers that they don't want to
suffer "discomfort." Being blown out of the air is real discomfort.
There's a war going on.
Wearing a nice clean hospital gown and getting a free prostate or
vaginal exam sounds like a pretty good deal.
But just good screening should take care of it. Despite all the talk
of these terrorists being "sophisticated" they're not bright bulbs.
Just we've been stupid in letting them get close.
And way too PC. I still don't understand why somebody didn't jack up
that Ft. Hood shooter before he shot up our boys.
Seems somebody should have broke his nose and drawn him out for
a discharge before it happened.
If the terrorists had any "sophistication" they'd be shooting down
airliners with Stingers instead of mixing up vinegar and Chlorox
bleach or whatever the hell they're doing to set their crotch on fire.
That's all Jack Bauer bull****. And remember, even Santa handed Bauer
his ass on a plate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6yUCbqAGrg

--Vic

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On 27/12/2009 1:18 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
...
On 27/12/2009 9:25 AM, thunder wrote:
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 10:01:14 -0500, mmc wrote:


I know the libs will squeal at this but mayube a little racial profiling
is in order? Like, check out people with obviously Muslim names a little
more closely than pasty white "Bubba Joe Smith" from Texarkana
(apologies if Bubba Joe actually resides on this group).

Yup, racial profiling would have caught Timothy McVeigh and the
Unabomber. If you want to use terrorist profiling, fine, but concentrate
on racial profiling the true terrorists can slip through. Guys, like
this, for instance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Yahiye_Gadahn

Given time, inginuity anyone can slip through. Given we don't have the
resources to pollygraph every flyer with an intensive background check, no
mater what one does it is going to boil down to getting most of them most
of the time.

Adam Yahiye Gadahn would have matched young male muslim/islam.

One Timothy McVeigh and how many muslim/islamic nut cases?


http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/02/26/hat...ort/index.html

I don't make them up. How many air plane incidents in say the last 10
years involve other than young male islam/muslims?

Don't give me the hate group nonsense. If I am looking for terrorists I
am not going to be wearing a turbin padding down an eldery white nun
living 30 years in Arkansas I am going to get no where.

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On 27/12/2009 4:35 PM, Tom Francis wrote:
On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 21:40:14 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

What say you fliers?

Have to ask Janet "The System Worked" Napolitano.

"DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano said that the thwarting of the attempt
to blow up the Amsterdam-Detroit flight this week demonstrated that
“the system worked.”

What a clueless wench. More like the idiot got nervious when mixing the
chemicals and messed up on his lap. Hope he burned his balls. But luck
had more to do with it. It wasn't time to die for the people on board.

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Canuck57 wrote:
On 27/12/2009 4:35 PM, Tom Francis wrote:
On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 21:40:14 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

What say you fliers?

Have to ask Janet "The System Worked" Napolitano.

"DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano said that the thwarting of the attempt
to blow up the Amsterdam-Detroit flight this week demonstrated that
“the system worked.”

What a clueless wench. More like the idiot got nervious when mixing the
chemicals and messed up on his lap. Hope he burned his balls. But luck
had more to do with it. It wasn't time to die for the people on board.

Obama sure knows how to pick em.

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On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 20:05:55 -0700, Canuck57 wrote:


I don't make them up. How many air plane incidents in say the last 10
years involve other than young male islam/muslims?

Never heard of the Black Widows?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahidka

Don't give me the hate group nonsense. If I am looking for terrorists I
am not going to be wearing a turbin padding down an eldery white nun
living 30 years in Arkansas I am going to get no where.

Profiling has had some successes with single individuals. When you are
talking of a terrorist organization, it will just look for whackos that
don't fit the profile. By the way, Mohammed Atta doesn't fit your
profile. He was 33.

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On Dec 27, 9:09*pm, Canuck57 wrote:
On 27/12/2009 4:35 PM, Tom Francis wrote:

On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 21:40:14 -0600, Vic Smith
*wrote:

What say you fliers?

Have to ask Janet "The System Worked" Napolitano.

"DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano said that the thwarting of the attempt
to blow up the Amsterdam-Detroit flight this week demonstrated that
“the system worked.”

What a clueless wench. *More like the idiot got nervious when mixing the
chemicals and messed up on his lap. *Hope he burned his balls. *But luck
had more to do with it. *It wasn't time to die for the people on board.

But the plane landed safely, so the system had to work, eh?

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On 12/27/09 10:39 PM, thunder wrote:
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 20:05:55 -0700, Canuck57 wrote:


I don't make them up. How many air plane incidents in say the last 10
years involve other than young male islam/muslims?

Never heard of the Black Widows?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahidka

Don't give me the hate group nonsense. If I am looking for terrorists I
am not going to be wearing a turbin padding down an eldery white nun
living 30 years in Arkansas I am going to get no where.

Profiling has had some successes with single individuals. When you are
talking of a terrorist organization, it will just look for whackos that
don't fit the profile. By the way, Mohammed Atta doesn't fit your
profile. He was 33.

Wait until the teabaggers start blowing up buildings, planes, and crowds
of people.

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On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 22:18:04 -0500, Jim wrote:


Obama sure knows how to pick em.

The plane was loaded in Amsterdam. Frankly, I don't see how Nepolitano
had a whole hell of a lot to do with it.

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On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 22:44:25 -0500, Harry wrote:


Wait until the teabaggers start blowing up buildings, planes, and crowds
of people.

Yeah, but that wouldn't be terrorism. That would be patriotism, if I
understand the teabaggers correctly.

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On 12/27/09 10:45 PM, thunder wrote:
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 22:18:04 -0500, Jim wrote:


Obama sure knows how to pick em.

The plane was loaded in Amsterdam. Frankly, I don't see how Nepolitano
had a whole hell of a lot to do with it.

Stop confusing the morons.

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On 12/27/09 10:48 PM, thunder wrote:
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 22:44:25 -0500, Harry wrote:


Wait until the teabaggers start blowing up buildings, planes, and crowds
of people.

Yeah, but that wouldn't be terrorism. That would be patriotism, if I
understand the teabaggers correctly.


i'd be interested in seeing the links between the teabaggers and the
KKK. The teabaggers include a large number of latino haters, and, of
course, so does the KKK.

Maybe herring knows. He's a self-outed hater of latinos and blacks, and
a teabagger sympathizer.

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On 27/12/2009 8:39 PM, thunder wrote:
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 20:05:55 -0700, Canuck57 wrote:


I don't make them up. How many air plane incidents in say the last 10
years involve other than young male islam/muslims?

Never heard of the Black Widows?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahidka

Don't give me the hate group nonsense. If I am looking for terrorists I
am not going to be wearing a turbin padding down an eldery white nun
living 30 years in Arkansas I am going to get no where.

Profiling has had some successes with single individuals. When you are
talking of a terrorist organization, it will just look for whackos that
don't fit the profile. By the way, Mohammed Atta doesn't fit your
profile. He was 33.

Looks like Ruskies have some fiesty and deadly women. Did they do a US
airliner?

33, he would fit. I said young, not kids... say 14 to 40.

I never claimed profiling will get them all, just a method of spending
20% of the resources for 80% of the effect. Then you have 80% of the
resources to go after 20% that remain. Increases the odds of being
effective.

And add all terrorist groups, even domestic skin heads.

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On 27/12/2009 8:40 PM, TopBassDog wrote:
On Dec 27, 9:09 pm, wrote:
On 27/12/2009 4:35 PM, Tom Francis wrote:

On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 21:40:14 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

What say you fliers?

Have to ask Janet "The System Worked" Napolitano.

"DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano said that the thwarting of the attempt
to blow up the Amsterdam-Detroit flight this week demonstrated that
“the system worked.”

What a clueless wench. More like the idiot got nervious when mixing the
chemicals and messed up on his lap. Hope he burned his balls. But luck
had more to do with it. It wasn't time to die for the people on board.

But the plane landed safely, so the system had to work, eh?

One has to ask how the system made a difference.

He got on the plane right past authorities with an explosive compound.
It was his mistakes, not the governments actions that saved the day.
Because even if you were willing to die, I doubt seriously you would
want to fry your balls first.

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On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 20:56:02 -0700, Canuck57 wrote:

I never claimed profiling will get them all, just a method of spending
20% of the resources for 80% of the effect. Then you have 80% of the
resources to go after 20% that remain. Increases the odds of being
effective.

That is exactly one of the problems with profiling. You don't spend 20%
of the resources. You spend 80% of the resources, and ignore all the
rest. Put two people on an airplane, one a young Muslim man, the other
an older white woman. The woman is carrying the bomb. While all the
airport security focuses on the young Muslim man, the woman slips on
board.

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"TopBassDog" wrote in message
...
On Dec 27, 7:36 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"TopBassDog" wrote in message

...
On Dec 27, 6:25 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:



If anything, she's guilty of mis-speaking, so you should probably take a
chill pill.

--
Nom=de=Plume

Of course, D'Plume, you should know what "mis-speaking" is. You do so
quite regularly here.

I'd rather mis-speak vs. mis-think, which seems to be your forte.

--
Nom=de=Plume

But D'Plume. You love me and you know it!


I guess it'll have to be unrequited.

--
Nom=de=Plume

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"thunder" wrote in message
t...
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 22:18:04 -0500, Jim wrote:


Obama sure knows how to pick em.

The plane was loaded in Amsterdam. Frankly, I don't see how Nepolitano
had a whole hell of a lot to do with it.


She was supposed to be at the gate at all times! (Obviously she didn't learn
from the gate-crasher incidend.)

--
Nom=de=Plume

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"Canuck57" wrote in message
...
On 27/12/2009 8:40 PM, TopBassDog wrote:
On Dec 27, 9:09 pm, wrote:
On 27/12/2009 4:35 PM, Tom Francis wrote:

On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 21:40:14 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

What say you fliers?

Have to ask Janet "The System Worked" Napolitano.

"DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano said that the thwarting of the attempt
to blow up the Amsterdam-Detroit flight this week demonstrated that
“the system worked.”

What a clueless wench. More like the idiot got nervious when mixing the
chemicals and messed up on his lap. Hope he burned his balls. But luck
had more to do with it. It wasn't time to die for the people on board.

But the plane landed safely, so the system had to work, eh?

One has to ask how the system made a difference.

He got on the plane right past authorities with an explosive compound. It
was his mistakes, not the governments actions that saved the day. Because
even if you were willing to die, I doubt seriously you would want to fry
your balls first.



Ok, that was funny. In any case she was talking about after the incident
started. Perhaps we should see what the investigations show? Nah... just
blame Obama.


--
Nom=de=Plume

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Harry wrote:
On 12/27/09 10:45 PM, thunder wrote:
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 22:18:04 -0500, Jim wrote:


Obama sure knows how to pick em.

The plane was loaded in Amsterdam. Frankly, I don't see how Nepolitano
had a whole hell of a lot to do with it.

Stop confusing the morons.

Nepolitano is one example of Obama's bad judgement.
--

It's flattering to see so many of you turds spoofing me.

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Harry wrote:
On 12/27/09 10:48 PM, thunder wrote:
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 22:44:25 -0500, Harry wrote:


Wait until the teabaggers start blowing up buildings, planes, and crowds
of people.

Yeah, but that wouldn't be terrorism. That would be patriotism, if I
understand the teabaggers correctly.


i'd be interested in seeing the links between the teabaggers and the
KKK. The teabaggers include a large number of latino haters, and, of
course, so does the KKK.

Maybe herring knows. He's a self-outed hater of latinos and blacks, and
a teabagger sympathizer.





Well there you go. You have made a connection. Write your congressman or
Napolitano. I'm sure they'd be interested in your theories.

--

It's flattering to see so many of you turds spoofing me.

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nom=de=plume wrote:
"TopBassDog" wrote in message
...
On Dec 27, 7:36 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"TopBassDog" wrote in message

...
On Dec 27, 6:25 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:



If anything, she's guilty of mis-speaking, so you should probably take a
chill pill.
--
Nom=de=Plume
Of course, D'Plume, you should know what "mis-speaking" is. You do so
quite regularly here.
I'd rather mis-speak vs. mis-think, which seems to be your forte.

--
Nom=de=Plume

But D'Plume. You love me and you know it!


I guess it'll have to be unrequited.

What a shame. At least he won't have to go get those shots then.

--

It's flattering to see so many of you turds spoofing me.

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thunder wrote:
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 22:18:04 -0500, Jim wrote:


Obama sure knows how to pick em.

The plane was loaded in Amsterdam. Frankly, I don't see how Nepolitano
had a whole hell of a lot to do with it.

Her comment about How well the system works in relation to this incident
has people scratching their heads. I can see where it's confused you
as well.

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Canuck57 wrote:
On 27/12/2009 8:39 PM, thunder wrote:
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 20:05:55 -0700, Canuck57 wrote:


I don't make them up. How many air plane incidents in say the last 10
years involve other than young male islam/muslims?

Never heard of the Black Widows?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahidka

Don't give me the hate group nonsense. If I am looking for terrorists I
am not going to be wearing a turbin padding down an eldery white nun
living 30 years in Arkansas I am going to get no where.

Profiling has had some successes with single individuals. When you are
talking of a terrorist organization, it will just look for whackos that
don't fit the profile. By the way, Mohammed Atta doesn't fit your
profile. He was 33.

Looks like Ruskies have some fiesty and deadly women. Did they do a US
airliner?

33, he would fit. I said young, not kids... say 14 to 40.

I never claimed profiling will get them all, just a method of spending
20% of the resources for 80% of the effect. Then you have 80% of the
resources to go after 20% that remain. Increases the odds of being
effective.

And add all terrorist groups, even domestic skin heads.

Although you are correct, profiling shines a light on certain races and
classes of people. We can't allow that to happen. ;-)

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thunder wrote:
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 20:56:02 -0700, Canuck57 wrote:

I never claimed profiling will get them all, just a method of spending
20% of the resources for 80% of the effect. Then you have 80% of the
resources to go after 20% that remain. Increases the odds of being
effective.

That is exactly one of the problems with profiling. You don't spend 20%
of the resources. You spend 80% of the resources, and ignore all the
rest. Put two people on an airplane, one a young Muslim man, the other
an older white woman. The woman is carrying the bomb. While all the
airport security focuses on the young Muslim man, the woman slips on
board.

Rediculous. You would never get a job as a profiler.

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On 12/28/09 7:08 AM, Jim wrote:
thunder wrote:
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 20:56:02 -0700, Canuck57 wrote:

I never claimed profiling will get them all, just a method of spending
20% of the resources for 80% of the effect. Then you have 80% of the
resources to go after 20% that remain. Increases the odds of being
effective.

That is exactly one of the problems with profiling. You don't spend
20% of the resources. You spend 80% of the resources, and ignore all
the rest. Put two people on an airplane, one a young Muslim man, the
other an older white woman. The woman is carrying the bomb. While all
the airport security focuses on the young Muslim man, the woman slips
on board.

Rediculous. You would never get a job as a profiler.

You base this on what? Your crap job in the navy 40 years ago and no
real employment in your entire lifetime?

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Jim wrote:
thunder wrote:
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 22:18:04 -0500, Jim wrote:


Obama sure knows how to pick em.

The plane was loaded in Amsterdam. Frankly, I don't see how
Nepolitano had a whole hell of a lot to do with it.

Her comment about How well the system works in relation to this incident
has people scratching their heads. I can see where it's confused you as
well.


Let's see, aren't most foreign flights TO the US loaded outside the US?
Shouldn't there be coordination of efforts between the US and foreign
countries?

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On 12/28/09 7:27 AM, D.Duck wrote:
Jim wrote:
thunder wrote:
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 22:18:04 -0500, Jim wrote:


Obama sure knows how to pick em.

The plane was loaded in Amsterdam. Frankly, I don't see how
Nepolitano had a whole hell of a lot to do with it.

Her comment about How well the system works in relation to this
incident has people scratching their heads. I can see where it's
confused you as well.


Let's see, aren't most foreign flights TO the US loaded outside the US?
Shouldn't there be coordination of efforts between the US and foreign
countries?

You should check with flajim, frogwatch, and the rest of the right-wing
morons here. They know nothing about airport security, either.

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On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 07:08:39 -0500, Jim wrote:


That is exactly one of the problems with profiling. You don't spend
20% of the resources. You spend 80% of the resources, and ignore all
the rest. Put two people on an airplane, one a young Muslim man, the
other an older white woman. The woman is carrying the bomb. While all
the airport security focuses on the young Muslim man, the woman slips
on board.

Rediculous. You would never get a job as a profiler.

Yup, but consider, this last incident was caused by a black Nigerian, not
an Arab. As I said before, if you want to profile a terrorist, fine, but
if you think racial profiling is the answer, you are going to miss a lot
of terrorists, McVeigh, the Unabomber, the Shoe Bomber, Black Widows,
etc., etc.

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On 12/28/09 7:49 AM, thunder wrote:
On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 07:08:39 -0500, Jim wrote:


That is exactly one of the problems with profiling. You don't spend
20% of the resources. You spend 80% of the resources, and ignore all
the rest. Put two people on an airplane, one a young Muslim man, the
other an older white woman. The woman is carrying the bomb. While all
the airport security focuses on the young Muslim man, the woman slips
on board.

Rediculous. You would never get a job as a profiler.

Yup, but consider, this last incident was caused by a black Nigerian, not
an Arab. As I said before, if you want to profile a terrorist, fine, but
if you think racial profiling is the answer, you are going to miss a lot
of terrorists, McVeigh, the Unabomber, the Shoe Bomber, Black Widows,
etc., etc.

And the upcoming terrorist acts from the teabagger-KKK movements.

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"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 10:01:14 -0500, "mmc" wrote:


Or, TSA could pay attention to the no fly list and not let the jerk on
board
in the first place. They may be too busy checking to make sure your 3 oz.
shampoo bottle is properly secured in it's 1 qt. anti- terrorist ziplock
bag
to be bothered with a heads up from the Brits.
TSA is a poor substitute for security. It's been crap since it was set up
and not likely to get better.
I know the libs will squeal at this but mayube a little racial profiling
is
in order? Like, check out people with obviously Muslim names a little more
closely than pasty white "Bubba Joe Smith" from Texarkana (apologies if
Bubba Joe actually resides on this group).


There's always going to be somebody who doesn't get on the list.
Don't need "racial" profiling. Some of these jihadists are white.
Just check the Muslims close, especially the young ones.
Male and female. Those are the ones that blow themselves and
innocents to smithereens. Might be wrong, but I can't recall any
suicide bomber being over 30 years old.
McVeigh has nothing to do with these. Different animal.
He didn't blow himself up.
That's why arming passengers won't work either.
A .45 against 2 pounds of C-4 at 30,000 feet always has the same
winner.
El Al doesn't have a problem, but they devote smart people and a
hard-ass attitude to the weeding process.
I don't understand the attitude of fliers that they don't want to
suffer "discomfort." Being blown out of the air is real discomfort.
There's a war going on.
Wearing a nice clean hospital gown and getting a free prostate or
vaginal exam sounds like a pretty good deal.
But just good screening should take care of it. Despite all the talk
of these terrorists being "sophisticated" they're not bright bulbs.
Just we've been stupid in letting them get close.
And way too PC. I still don't understand why somebody didn't jack up
that Ft. Hood shooter before he shot up our boys.
Seems somebody should have broke his nose and drawn him out for
a discharge before it happened.
If the terrorists had any "sophistication" they'd be shooting down
airliners with Stingers instead of mixing up vinegar and Chlorox
bleach or whatever the hell they're doing to set their crotch on fire.
That's all Jack Bauer bull****. And remember, even Santa handed Bauer
his ass on a plate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6yUCbqAGrg

--Vic

Now that you've thrown in a free exam, I'm all for it Vic!

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thunder wrote:
On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 07:08:39 -0500, Jim wrote:


That is exactly one of the problems with profiling. You don't spend
20% of the resources. You spend 80% of the resources, and ignore all
the rest. Put two people on an airplane, one a young Muslim man, the
other an older white woman. The woman is carrying the bomb. While all
the airport security focuses on the young Muslim man, the woman slips
on board.
Rediculous. You would never get a job as a profiler.

Yup, but consider, this last incident was caused by a black Nigerian, not
an Arab. As I said before, if you want to profile a terrorist, fine, but
if you think racial profiling is the answer, you are going to miss a lot
of terrorists, McVeigh, the Unabomber, the Shoe Bomber, Black Widows,
etc., etc.

I doubt if you have any data to back up your suppositions.
Profiling is a tool. Reading body language is another. Intelligence
another.

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On 12/28/09 8:39 AM, Jim wrote:
thunder wrote:
On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 07:08:39 -0500, Jim wrote:


That is exactly one of the problems with profiling. You don't spend
20% of the resources. You spend 80% of the resources, and ignore all
the rest. Put two people on an airplane, one a young Muslim man, the
other an older white woman. The woman is carrying the bomb. While all
the airport security focuses on the young Muslim man, the woman slips
on board.
Rediculous. You would never get a job as a profiler.

Yup, but consider, this last incident was caused by a black Nigerian,
not an Arab. As I said before, if you want to profile a terrorist,
fine, but if you think racial profiling is the answer, you are going
to miss a lot of terrorists, McVeigh, the Unabomber, the Shoe Bomber,
Black Widows, etc., etc.

I doubt if you have any data to back up your suppositions.
Profiling is a tool. Reading body language is another. Intelligence
another.

flajim learned all this on the only real job he's had...chipping paint
on the deck of a ship 35 years ago when he was a navy boy.

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In article ,
says...

On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 22:44:25 -0500, Harry wrote:


Wait until the teabaggers start blowing up buildings, planes, and crowds
of people.

Yeah, but that wouldn't be terrorism. That would be patriotism, if I
understand the teabaggers correctly.

Let me correct your statement, "if I understand Hillary Clinton
correctly."

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Harry wrote:
On 12/28/09 8:39 AM, Jim wrote:
thunder wrote:
On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 07:08:39 -0500, Jim wrote:


That is exactly one of the problems with profiling. You don't spend
20% of the resources. You spend 80% of the resources, and ignore all
the rest. Put two people on an airplane, one a young Muslim man, the
other an older white woman. The woman is carrying the bomb. While all
the airport security focuses on the young Muslim man, the woman slips
on board.
Rediculous. You would never get a job as a profiler.

Yup, but consider, this last incident was caused by a black Nigerian,
not an Arab. As I said before, if you want to profile a terrorist,
fine, but if you think racial profiling is the answer, you are going
to miss a lot of terrorists, McVeigh, the Unabomber, the Shoe Bomber,
Black Widows, etc., etc.

I doubt if you have any data to back up your suppositions.
Profiling is a tool. Reading body language is another. Intelligence
another.

flajim learned all this on the only real job he's had...chipping paint
on the deck of a ship 35 years ago when he was a navy boy.


Does Flajim give you a woodie as well. Whatever happened to you? You
used to like girls. I guess KY jelly gave you a whole new life, eh.

--

It's flattering to see so many of you turds spoofing me.

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In article ,
says...

On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 07:08:39 -0500, Jim wrote:


That is exactly one of the problems with profiling. You don't spend
20% of the resources. You spend 80% of the resources, and ignore all
the rest. Put two people on an airplane, one a young Muslim man, the
other an older white woman. The woman is carrying the bomb. While all
the airport security focuses on the young Muslim man, the woman slips
on board.

Rediculous. You would never get a job as a profiler.

Yup, but consider, this last incident was caused by a black Nigerian, not
an Arab. As I said before, if you want to profile a terrorist, fine, but
if you think racial profiling is the answer, you are going to miss a lot
of terrorists, McVeigh, the Unabomber, the Shoe Bomber, Black Widows,
etc., etc.

The majority religion in Nigeria is Islam.

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Harry wrote:
On 12/28/09 7:27 AM, D.Duck wrote:
Jim wrote:
thunder wrote:
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 22:18:04 -0500, Jim wrote:


Obama sure knows how to pick em.

The plane was loaded in Amsterdam. Frankly, I don't see how
Nepolitano had a whole hell of a lot to do with it.

Her comment about How well the system works in relation to this
incident has people scratching their heads. I can see where it's
confused you as well.


Let's see, aren't most foreign flights TO the US loaded outside the US?
Shouldn't there be coordination of efforts between the US and foreign
countries?

You should check with flajim, frogwatch, and the rest of the right-wing
morons here. They know nothing about airport security, either.


Damn those morons, if it wasn't for intellectual giants such as you and
me, this group would be useless.

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In article ,
says...

On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 22:18:04 -0500, Jim wrote:


Obama sure knows how to pick em.

The plane was loaded in Amsterdam. Frankly, I don't see how Nepolitano
had a whole hell of a lot to do with it.

Why didn't she throw the Dutch under the bus, in true liberal form?

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Harry wrote:
On 12/28/09 7:08 AM, Jim wrote:
thunder wrote:
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 20:56:02 -0700, Canuck57 wrote:

I never claimed profiling will get them all, just a method of spending
20% of the resources for 80% of the effect. Then you have 80% of the
resources to go after 20% that remain. Increases the odds of being
effective.

That is exactly one of the problems with profiling. You don't spend
20% of the resources. You spend 80% of the resources, and ignore all
the rest. Put two people on an airplane, one a young Muslim man, the
other an older white woman. The woman is carrying the bomb. While all
the airport security focuses on the young Muslim man, the woman slips
on board.

Rediculous. You would never get a job as a profiler.

You base this on what? Your crap job in the navy 40 years ago and no
real employment in your entire lifetime?

Harry, very few people have as good of a job as you and i have had. i
worked for a crown corp. and your wife paid you to stay in the basement
and not embarrass her. What a life.

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On 28/12/2009 6:53 AM, BAR wrote:
In inet,
says...

On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 07:08:39 -0500, Jim wrote:


That is exactly one of the problems with profiling. You don't spend
20% of the resources. You spend 80% of the resources, and ignore all
the rest. Put two people on an airplane, one a young Muslim man, the
other an older white woman. The woman is carrying the bomb. While all
the airport security focuses on the young Muslim man, the woman slips
on board.

Rediculous. You would never get a job as a profiler.

Yup, but consider, this last incident was caused by a black Nigerian, not
an Arab. As I said before, if you want to profile a terrorist, fine, but
if you think racial profiling is the answer, you are going to miss a lot
of terrorists, McVeigh, the Unabomber, the Shoe Bomber, Black Widows,
etc., etc.

The majority religion in Nigeria is Islam.

AND a visit to Yemen...quick google search on "yemen terrorism" has quit
a few hits. Including a ship bombing.

This guy had terrorist almost written all over him.
Nigeria-Yemem-Amsterdam-Detroit isn't a common or direct flight plan.

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On 27/12/2009 10:26 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
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On 27/12/2009 8:40 PM, TopBassDog wrote:
On Dec 27, 9:09 pm, wrote:
On 27/12/2009 4:35 PM, Tom Francis wrote:

On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 21:40:14 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

What say you fliers?

Have to ask Janet "The System Worked" Napolitano.

"DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano said that the thwarting of the attempt
to blow up the Amsterdam-Detroit flight this week demonstrated that
“the system worked.”

What a clueless wench. More like the idiot got nervious when mixing the
chemicals and messed up on his lap. Hope he burned his balls. But luck
had more to do with it. It wasn't time to die for the people on board.

But the plane landed safely, so the system had to work, eh?

One has to ask how the system made a difference.

He got on the plane right past authorities with an explosive compound. It
was his mistakes, not the governments actions that saved the day. Because
even if you were willing to die, I doubt seriously you would want to fry
your balls first.

Ok, that was funny. In any case she was talking about after the incident
started. Perhaps we should see what the investigations show? Nah... just
blame Obama.

Actiually, I blame peoples stupidity. But Obama be the one responsible
these days. I didn't agree with Bush's go at it either. Too many
purely politicial barriers in doing this right.

For example, why did it take so long to put locks on the cabin doors to
the pilots? Because big budgets and fast talk were more important than
reality.

Talk a look at who they do catch, and always there is a person behind it
that takes there job seriously, including profiling and whatever they
can use.