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On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 08:08:10 -0500, Gene
wrote: On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 05:30:04 -0500, I am Tosk wrote: In article , says... On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 16:50:10 -0800 (PST), "*e#c" wrote: On Dec 15, 6:45*pm, Gene wrote: On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 15:59:12 -0500, John H wrote: Christmas, and the fact that so many people get so much enjoyment from the season, must really **** off the atheists. Not only that.... it really ****es off a lot of Christians, because they know it is celebrating a Pagan holiday with a ton of Pagan trappings.... and they will do anything to prevent being guilty of idolatrous worship.... ... there are a lot of Christian children around here that will get no presents and wouldn't want them, if they did.... *there are Christian homes with absolute prohibitions against anything associated with Christmas.... no trees, no 12 days, no Yule log, no parades, no exchanging gifts, no ornaments, no mistletoe, no green, no red, no presents, no Santa, and *certainly* no eggnog. *And you'll NEVER catch THEM saying, "Merry Christmas."http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/Psychology/xmas/celeb.htm Don't be so quick to paint all Christians with that broad brush. -- It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance. *-Thomas Sowell Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC. Homepage *http://pamandgene.tranquilrefuge.net/boating/the_boat/my_boat.htm Forté Agent 6.00 Build 1186 no trees, no 12 days, no Yule log, no parades, no exchanging gifts, no ornaments, no mistletoe, no green, no red, no presents, no Santa, and *certainly* no eggnog. And you'll NEVER catch THEM saying, "Merry Christmas." Sounds like the invading Muslims to me........ Actually, not all that dissimilar, once you think about it.... Pfffftttt, it's made up... But it sure makes for a good talking point! Offered without comment, for your consideration, these very real people: http://tinyurl.com/6pu7d Are those the folks living around you? -- John H |
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On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 19:39:03 -0500, Gene
wrote: On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 17:24:01 -0500, John H wrote: On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 08:08:10 -0500, Gene wrote: On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 05:30:04 -0500, I am Tosk wrote: In article , says... On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 16:50:10 -0800 (PST), "*e#c" wrote: On Dec 15, 6:45*pm, Gene wrote: On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 15:59:12 -0500, John H wrote: Christmas, and the fact that so many people get so much enjoyment from the season, must really **** off the atheists. Not only that.... it really ****es off a lot of Christians, because they know it is celebrating a Pagan holiday with a ton of Pagan trappings.... and they will do anything to prevent being guilty of idolatrous worship.... ... there are a lot of Christian children around here that will get no presents and wouldn't want them, if they did.... *there are Christian homes with absolute prohibitions against anything associated with Christmas.... no trees, no 12 days, no Yule log, no parades, no exchanging gifts, no ornaments, no mistletoe, no green, no red, no presents, no Santa, and *certainly* no eggnog. *And you'll NEVER catch THEM saying, "Merry Christmas."http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/Psychology/xmas/celeb.htm Don't be so quick to paint all Christians with that broad brush. -- It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance. *-Thomas Sowell Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC. Homepage *http://pamandgene.tranquilrefuge.net/boating/the_boat/my_boat.htm Forté Agent 6.00 Build 1186 no trees, no 12 days, no Yule log, no parades, no exchanging gifts, no ornaments, no mistletoe, no green, no red, no presents, no Santa, and *certainly* no eggnog. And you'll NEVER catch THEM saying, "Merry Christmas." Sounds like the invading Muslims to me........ Actually, not all that dissimilar, once you think about it.... Pfffftttt, it's made up... But it sure makes for a good talking point! Offered without comment, for your consideration, these very real people: http://tinyurl.com/6pu7d Are those the folks living around you? Depends.... Do you think those folks would think Katrina is God's punishment on a Immoral and Godless America? Do you think those folks would think 911 is God's punishment on a Immoral and Godless America? Do you think those folks would think H1N1 is Gods punishment on a Immoral and Godless America? If so, yeah, they might be! I've overheard all three of those gems in the last week or so.... I'd like to think those folks at GodHatesAmerica are total fringe nuts, and to many folks they are. However, here in the rural areas of the Bible Belt, I hear too much sympathy for them (or, actually, their dogma) among local folks to dismiss the notion out of hand. How much of this could you agree to? How much could you use persuasively, even if you *didn't* believe it? http://www.beastobama.com/ Sounds to me like you're hanging with the wrong crowd. I live here in DC. Yet I've not heard any of those comments you're quoting. Of course, I don't go looking for 'God Hates America' sites to show how bad Christians can be. No, I don't go to your websites. But, if they give you a charge, have at it. -- John H |
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On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 20:16:03 -0500, Gene
wrote: On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 20:02:03 -0500, John H wrote: On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 19:39:03 -0500, Gene wrote: On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 17:24:01 -0500, John H wrote: On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 08:08:10 -0500, Gene wrote: On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 05:30:04 -0500, I am Tosk wrote: In article , says... On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 16:50:10 -0800 (PST), "*e#c" wrote: On Dec 15, 6:45*pm, Gene wrote: On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 15:59:12 -0500, John H wrote: Christmas, and the fact that so many people get so much enjoyment from the season, must really **** off the atheists. Not only that.... it really ****es off a lot of Christians, because they know it is celebrating a Pagan holiday with a ton of Pagan trappings.... and they will do anything to prevent being guilty of idolatrous worship.... ... there are a lot of Christian children around here that will get no presents and wouldn't want them, if they did.... *there are Christian homes with absolute prohibitions against anything associated with Christmas.... no trees, no 12 days, no Yule log, no parades, no exchanging gifts, no ornaments, no mistletoe, no green, no red, no presents, no Santa, and *certainly* no eggnog. *And you'll NEVER catch THEM saying, "Merry Christmas."http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/Psychology/xmas/celeb.htm Don't be so quick to paint all Christians with that broad brush. -- It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance. *-Thomas Sowell Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC. Homepage *http://pamandgene.tranquilrefuge.net/boating/the_boat/my_boat.htm Forté Agent 6.00 Build 1186 no trees, no 12 days, no Yule log, no parades, no exchanging gifts, no ornaments, no mistletoe, no green, no red, no presents, no Santa, and *certainly* no eggnog. And you'll NEVER catch THEM saying, "Merry Christmas." Sounds like the invading Muslims to me........ Actually, not all that dissimilar, once you think about it.... Pfffftttt, it's made up... But it sure makes for a good talking point! Offered without comment, for your consideration, these very real people: http://tinyurl.com/6pu7d Are those the folks living around you? Depends.... Do you think those folks would think Katrina is God's punishment on a Immoral and Godless America? Do you think those folks would think 911 is God's punishment on a Immoral and Godless America? Do you think those folks would think H1N1 is Gods punishment on a Immoral and Godless America? If so, yeah, they might be! I've overheard all three of those gems in the last week or so.... I'd like to think those folks at GodHatesAmerica are total fringe nuts, and to many folks they are. However, here in the rural areas of the Bible Belt, I hear too much sympathy for them (or, actually, their dogma) among local folks to dismiss the notion out of hand. How much of this could you agree to? How much could you use persuasively, even if you *didn't* believe it? http://www.beastobama.com/ Sounds to me like you're hanging with the wrong crowd. I live here in DC. Yet I've not heard any of those comments you're quoting. Of course, I don't go looking for 'God Hates America' sites to show how bad Christians can be. No, I don't go to your websites. But, if they give you a charge, have at it. I doubt that you *would* see that in DC, except at the C Street Townhouse.... which are representatives (literally) of the folks I'm talking about.... I believe you, but I'll pass. -- Have a Blessed Chrismahanukwanzakah and a Spectacular New Year! John H |
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On Dec 16, 6:39*pm, Gene wrote:
On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 17:24:01 -0500, John H wrote: On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 08:08:10 -0500, Gene wrote: On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 05:30:04 -0500, I am Tosk wrote: In article , says... On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 16:50:10 -0800 (PST), "*e#c" wrote: On Dec 15, 6:45*pm, Gene wrote: On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 15:59:12 -0500, John H wrote: Christmas, and the fact that so many people get so much enjoyment from the season, must really **** off the atheists. Not only that.... it really ****es off a lot of Christians, because they know it is celebrating a Pagan holiday with a ton of Pagan trappings.... and they will do anything to prevent being guilty of idolatrous worship.... ... there are a lot of Christian children around here that will get no presents and wouldn't want them, if they did.... *there are Christian homes with absolute prohibitions against anything associated with Christmas.... no trees, no 12 days, no Yule log, no parades, no exchanging gifts, no ornaments, no mistletoe, no green, no red, no presents, no Santa, and *certainly* no eggnog. *And you'll NEVER catch THEM saying, "Merry Christmas."http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/Psychology/xmas/celeb.htm Don't be so quick to paint all Christians with that broad brush. -- It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance. *-Thomas Sowell Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC. Homepage *http://pamandgene.tranquilrefuge.net/boating/the_boat/my_boat..htm Forté Agent 6.00 Build 1186 no trees, no 12 days, no Yule log, no parades, no exchanging gifts, no ornaments, no mistletoe, no green, no red, no presents, no Santa, and *certainly* no eggnog. *And you'll NEVER catch THEM saying, "Merry Christmas." Sounds like the invading Muslims to me........ Actually, not all that dissimilar, once you think about it.... Pfffftttt, it's made up... But it sure makes for a good talking point! Offered without comment, for your consideration, these very real people: http://tinyurl.com/6pu7d Are those the folks living around you? Depends.... Do you think those folks would think Katrina is God's punishment on a Immoral and Godless America? I can't speak for them, but I don't. Do you think those folks would think 911 is God's punishment on a Immoral and Godless America? I can't speak for them, but I don't. Do you think *those folks would think H1N1 is Gods punishment on a Immoral and Godless America? I can't speak for them, but I don't. If so, yeah, they might be! I've overheard all three of those gems in the last week or so.... That's perfect thinking for the uninformed and superstitious .. I'd like to think those folks at GodHatesAmerica are total fringe nuts, and to many folks they are. *However, here in the rural areas of the Bible Belt, I hear too much sympathy for them (or, actually, their dogma) among local folks to dismiss the notion out of hand. Gene, there's been crackpots under the guise of religion ever since religion. I certainly don't put stock in Phelps and/or his ilk, and I'm not sympathetic to then either. How much of this could you agree to? How much could you use persuasively, even if you *didn't* believe it?http://www.beastobama.com/ Little if any of it. -- It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance. *-Thomas Sowell Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC. Homepage *http://pamandgene.tranquilrefuge.net/boating/the_boat/my_boat.htm Forté Agent 6.00 Build 1186 |
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On Dec 17, 10:35*am, I am Tosk
wrote: In article , says... On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 17:42:09 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: Huge Snips Little if any of it. Kudos.... *not everybody is that open minded..... or grasps (or wants to) the bigger picture..... .... I think you need to have spent some time in the deep South to get it.... I did, Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee but I am not sure if that is considered the Bible Belt. I ran into folks like that down there, but not in fringe churches, but mostly KKK. Actually a lot of northern states have higher numbers per capita of KKK members than many southern states. |
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On Dec 17, 1:01*pm, I am Tosk wrote:
In article f487bafe-67c0-4ec9-a54f-7dc034541919 @q18g2000yqj.googlegroups.com, says... On Dec 17, 10:35*am, I am Tosk wrote: In article , says... On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 17:42:09 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: Huge Snips Little if any of it. Kudos.... *not everybody is that open minded..... or grasps (or wants to) the bigger picture..... .... I think you need to have spent some time in the deep South to get it.... I did, Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee but I am not sure if that is considered the Bible Belt. I ran into folks like that down there, but not in fringe churches, but mostly KKK. Actually a lot of northern states have higher numbers per capita of KKK members than many southern states. Could be, they are just more open about it down there. Asked a buddy of mine in Ala where he would rather live, back in NJ, or in Ala, in relation to prejudice. He said Alabama, "at least down here when a man is a bigot, he will tell you when you walk in the door, so you don't have to waste your time with him". "Up north, you don't know till it's too late"...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Believe it or not, where I lived in western NY, in the sticks, the people there are FAR more bigoted than they are here in the south. I think the reason is that there are so few minorities there that they just don't know anything about them, and we all know that ignorance can easily breed bigotry. |
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