On 12/16/09 4:01 PM, Harry wrote:
In articlec81339f9-211a-4dde-964a-2aa192d793d7
@r1g2000vbn.googlegroups.com, says...

On Dec 16, 1:52 pm, wrote:
On 12/16/09 2:37 PM, Tim wrote:





On Dec 15, 5:45 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 15:59:12 -0500, John
wrote:

Christmas, and the fact that so many people get so much enjoyment from
the season, must really **** off the atheists.

Not only that.... it really ****es off a lot of Christians, because
they know it is celebrating a Pagan holiday with a ton of Pagan
trappings.... and they will do anything to prevent being guilty of
idolatrous worship....

... there are a lot of Christian children around here that will get no
presents and wouldn't want them, if they did.... there are Christian
homes with absolute prohibitions against anything associated with
Christmas.... no trees, no 12 days, no Yule log, no parades, no
exchanging gifts, no ornaments, no mistletoe, no green, no red, no
presents, no Santa, and *certainly* no eggnog.

NO EGGNOG????

C'mon Gene, now thats going as bit too far!!!

I've got about 4 gallons of Praire Farms "Holiday Nog" (no alcohol) in
the freezer now. My son and I occasionally crack open a half gallon
in July, thaw it, shake it, and guzzle it. Just as good as the day it
was made.

Life is too short without egg nog, especially through the summer.

Eggnog
It's the official holiday drink of Jesus Christ!
(But never with meat products)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You got a cite on that, Harry?

just curious where you got your information.

?;^ )







I don't need one. I know everything. And if you dare to call me on any
of my posts, or say I don't know something, or say I lied about
something, I'll start calling you names and insulting you like I do all
the others.


The paragraph directly above shows how easy it is to "detect" one of the
semi-literate "I Wannabe Harry" jerks. They write like floridajim, or
herring, or loogy, or justhate. I don't.


A real Harry response, which I offered:

"I read about the first part in the bible:

"Refreshments and Recreations: II,3 :)

"The second part I deduced:

"Jesus wouldn't eat meat products with milk products at the same
meal/snack. As an observant Jew, he would have been very familiar with
the dietary law of basar bechalav. 'Thou shalt not seethe a kid in its
mother's milk.'"

On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 08:08:10 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 05:30:04 -0500, I am Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 16:50:10 -0800 (PST), "*e#c"
wrote:

On Dec 15, 6:45*pm, Gene wrote:
On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 15:59:12 -0500, John H
wrote:

Christmas, and the fact that so many people get so much enjoyment from
the season, must really **** off the atheists.

Not only that.... it really ****es off a lot of Christians, because
they know it is celebrating a Pagan holiday with a ton of Pagan
trappings.... and they will do anything to prevent being guilty of
idolatrous worship....

... there are a lot of Christian children around here that will get no
presents and wouldn't want them, if they did.... *there are Christian
homes with absolute prohibitions against anything associated with
Christmas.... no trees, no 12 days, no Yule log, no parades, no
exchanging gifts, no ornaments, no mistletoe, no green, no red, no
presents, no Santa, and *certainly* no eggnog. *And you'll NEVER catch
THEM saying, "Merry Christmas."http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/Psychology/xmas/celeb.htm

Don't be so quick to paint all Christians with that broad brush.
--
It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are
enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance.
*-Thomas Sowell

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepage
*http://pamandgene.tranquilrefuge.net/boating/the_boat/my_boat.htm

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no trees, no 12 days, no Yule log, no parades, no
exchanging gifts, no ornaments, no mistletoe, no green, no red, no
presents, no Santa, and *certainly* no eggnog. And you'll NEVER catch
THEM saying, "Merry Christmas."

Sounds like the invading Muslims to me........

Actually, not all that dissimilar, once you think about it....

Pfffftttt, it's made up... But it sure makes for a good talking point!

Offered without comment, for your consideration, these very real
people:
http://tinyurl.com/6pu7d

Are those the folks living around you?
--

John H

On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 12:58:54 -0500, Gene
wrote:


Have a Happy Holiday....

Thanks, Gene. Hope you and yours have a Happy Holiday Season, Merry
Christmas and a great New Year.
--

John H

On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 13:53:58 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:

Loogypicker wrote:
On Dec 16, 10:55 am, I am Tosk
wrote:
In article b120cbbf-39a0-4876-96de-4263f1f761f3
@g31g2000vbr.googlegroups.com, says...







On Dec 15, 6:45 pm, Gene wrote:
On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 15:59:12 -0500, John H
wrote:
Christmas, and the fact that so many people get so much enjoyment from
the season, must really **** off the atheists.
Not only that.... it really ****es off a lot of Christians, because
they know it is celebrating a Pagan holiday with a ton of Pagan
trappings.... and they will do anything to prevent being guilty of
idolatrous worship....
... there are a lot of Christian children around here that will get no
presents and wouldn't want them, if they did.... there are Christian
homes with absolute prohibitions against anything associated with
Christmas.... no trees, no 12 days, no Yule log, no parades, no
exchanging gifts, no ornaments, no mistletoe, no green, no red, no
presents, no Santa, and *certainly* no eggnog. And you'll NEVER catch
THEM saying, "Merry Christmas."http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/Psychology/xmas/celeb.htm
Don't be so quick to paint all Christians with that broad brush.
--
It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are
enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance.
-Thomas Sowell
Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.
Homepage
http://pamandgene.tranquilrefuge.net/boating/the_boat/my_boat.htm
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Gene, I don't think most people here get the fact that the way we
celebrate Christmas in modern times has just about NOTHING to do with
Christianity.
You feel that way because you see Christmas as a tree and presents. You
are not qualified to judge Christians on this particular issue really,
your rhetoric along with Harry and Gene make clear that you don't
understand. Cool, no problem, next why don't you three old white guys
get together and solve that whole reproductive rights issue snerk- Hide quoted text -

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How do you purport to know about whether or not I'm qualified to
remark on this or any other issue? As a matter of fact, my wife's
first cousin, Fr. Bryan yes, a priest, and also a REAL Dr. of Clinical
Psychology has had numerous discussions with me about this very topic.
Including the pagan aspect, and how the modern way of celebrating has
very little to do with Christianity. Hell, nobody even knows when
Jesus was born. December 25th? In ancient Babylon, the feast of the
Son of Isis (Goddess of Nature) was celebrated on December 25. Raucous
partying, gluttonous eating and drinking, and gift-giving were
traditions of this feast.


And you purport that these are "your" words:

"Raucous partying, gluttonous eating and drinking, and gift-giving were
traditions of this feast."

Try Googling:

Raucous partying, gluttonous eating and drinking, and gift-giving were
traditions of this feast.

That's one of Harry's favorite tricks. What a shame. (...and sham)
--

John H

On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 14:09:46 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 13:53:58 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:

Try Googling:

Raucous partying, gluttonous eating and drinking, and gift-giving were
traditions of this feast.

Google - anybody can use it.
A greater equalizer than the Colt .45 here.
Hey Duck, how's the golfing?
Still haven't tried that pizza joint you recommended.
But I will.

--Vic


Golf is great, albeit in some people mind it's a useless waste of time.
I enjoy it, that's good enough for me. Played at 7:30 this morning
and teeing off again in about 90 minutes.

You had to mention pizza. Oh how I long for a Chicago thin crust pie.

Where are you playing? It was an ear muff day in Alexandria, VA,
today! Just can't wait for a few more freezing days to get the ground
nice and frozen. Three hundred yard drives will be the norm.
--

John H

On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 10:22:12 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 08:56:41 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 20:56:01 -0500, I am Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 15:59:12 -0500, John H
wrote:

Christmas, and the fact that so many people get so much enjoyment from
the season, must really **** off the atheists.

Not only that.... it really ****es off a lot of Christians, because
they know it is celebrating a Pagan holiday with a ton of Pagan
trappings.... and they will do anything to prevent being guilty of
idolatrous worship....

... there are a lot of Christian children around here that will get no
presents and wouldn't want them, if they did.... there are Christian
homes with absolute prohibitions against anything associated with
Christmas.... no trees, no 12 days, no Yule log, no parades, no
exchanging gifts, no ornaments, no mistletoe, no green, no red, no
presents, no Santa, and *certainly* no eggnog. And you'll NEVER catch
THEM saying, "Merry Christmas."
http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/...xmas/celeb.htm

Don't be so quick to paint all Christians with that broad brush.

Wow, and in my 50 years I have never met one, much less heard of one
trying to shut down my celebration... hummmmmm...

Me neither. But Gene has many living right around his house. Do you
reckon he polls the neighbors to see which are Christians, which
prohibit anything to do with Christmas, which don't say "Merry
Christmas", and so on.

Must be hard to get all those questions answered.

Nah, it is quite easy. I have in-laws that constantly want to *save*
me with their particular twist on "the way the truth and the light." I
don't have to ask to get questions answered.... you folks are usually
pretty "in your face" about what your Lord and God demandeth other
folks shall know and follow.

I have a tree and mistletoe, they don't.... go figure.....

Oh, yeah, I forgot.... some of the Quakers.... locally, the Quaker
college doesn't even have an American flag on campus! But I've got one
of those!

Have a Happy Holiday!

Thanks! Right back atcha!

Your phrase, "...there are a lot of Christian children around here..."
is what led to my comments above. I was wondering how you knew so much
about your neighbors.
--

John H

On Dec 16, 2:59*pm, Harry wrote:
On 12/16/09 3:51 PM, Tim wrote:





On Dec 16, 1:52 pm, *wrote:
On 12/16/09 2:37 PM, Tim wrote:

On Dec 15, 5:45 pm, * *wrote:
On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 15:59:12 -0500, John
wrote:

Christmas, and the fact that so many people get so much enjoyment from
the season, must really **** off the atheists.

Not only that.... it really ****es off a lot of Christians, because
they know it is celebrating a Pagan holiday with a ton of Pagan
trappings.... and they will do anything to prevent being guilty of
idolatrous worship....

... there are a lot of Christian children around here that will get no
presents and wouldn't want them, if they did.... *there are Christian
homes with absolute prohibitions against anything associated with
Christmas.... no trees, no 12 days, no Yule log, no parades, no
exchanging gifts, no ornaments, no mistletoe, no green, no red, no
presents, no Santa, and *certainly* no eggnog.

NO EGGNOG????

C'mon Gene, now thats going as bit too far!!!

I've got about 4 gallons of Praire Farms "Holiday Nog" (no alcohol) in
the freezer now. My son and I occasionally crack open a half gallon
in July, thaw it, shake it, and guzzle it. Just as good as the day it
was made.

Life is too short without egg nog, especially through the summer.

Eggnog
It's the official holiday drink of Jesus Christ!
(But never with meat products)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You got a cite on that, Harry?

just curious where you got your information.

?;^ )

I read about the first part in the bible:

Refreshments and Recreations: II,3 * *:)


Hmmm. I must have missed that part.



The second part I deduced:

Jesus wouldn't eat meat products with milk products at the same
meal/snack. As an observant Jew, he would have been very familiar with
the dietary law of basar bechalav. "Thou shalt not seethe a kid in its
mother's milk."- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Of course H was obedient to the law.

Hebrews 4:15

Of course H was obedient to the law.


"He"

sorry.

On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 10:22:12 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 08:56:41 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 20:56:01 -0500, I am Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 15:59:12 -0500, John H
wrote:

Christmas, and the fact that so many people get so much enjoyment from
the season, must really **** off the atheists.

Not only that.... it really ****es off a lot of Christians, because
they know it is celebrating a Pagan holiday with a ton of Pagan
trappings.... and they will do anything to prevent being guilty of
idolatrous worship....

... there are a lot of Christian children around here that will get no
presents and wouldn't want them, if they did.... there are Christian
homes with absolute prohibitions against anything associated with
Christmas.... no trees, no 12 days, no Yule log, no parades, no
exchanging gifts, no ornaments, no mistletoe, no green, no red, no
presents, no Santa, and *certainly* no eggnog. And you'll NEVER catch
THEM saying, "Merry Christmas."
http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/...xmas/celeb.htm

Don't be so quick to paint all Christians with that broad brush.

Wow, and in my 50 years I have never met one, much less heard of one
trying to shut down my celebration... hummmmmm...

Me neither. But Gene has many living right around his house. Do you
reckon he polls the neighbors to see which are Christians, which
prohibit anything to do with Christmas, which don't say "Merry
Christmas", and so on.

Must be hard to get all those questions answered.

Nah, it is quite easy. I have in-laws that constantly want to *save*
me with their particular twist on "the way the truth and the light." I
don't have to ask to get questions answered.... you folks are usually
pretty "in your face" about what your Lord and God demandeth other
folks shall know and follow.

Given your in-law problem, I can understand your attitude. I assume
the use of 'you folks' refers to your in-laws. It's for damn sure no
one here, 'cept maybe Harry, has been "in your face" about what your
Lord and God demandeth....etc.

Of course, you could be seeing something I'm not.
--

John H

John H wrote:
On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 14:09:46 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 13:53:58 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:

Try Googling:

Raucous partying, gluttonous eating and drinking, and gift-giving were
traditions of this feast.
Google - anybody can use it.
A greater equalizer than the Colt .45 here.
Hey Duck, how's the golfing?
Still haven't tried that pizza joint you recommended.
But I will.

--Vic

Golf is great, albeit in some people mind it's a useless waste of time.
I enjoy it, that's good enough for me. Played at 7:30 this morning
and teeing off again in about 90 minutes.

You had to mention pizza. Oh how I long for a Chicago thin crust pie.

Where are you playing? It was an ear muff day in Alexandria, VA,
today! Just can't wait for a few more freezing days to get the ground
nice and frozen. Three hundred yard drives will be the norm.


Central Florida. No frozen ground here.