"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
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On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 20:31:54 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 21:26:03 -0400, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 21:20:49 -0400, Tosk
wrote:

Funny, as soon as I started to read the above paragraph I knew it was
our WAFA spinning his tales again...

Add speaks Russian - probably in French - to the list of
accomplishments.

He is truly the most interesting man in the world.

Heh heh. Timely. Daughters boyfriend, an international gadabout, left
a couple Coronas in the fridge while I was on vacation.
I passed, and grabbed a bottle of Harnas, "Of Polish Highlanders.".
Don't know how interesting I am, but drinking Polish hillbilly beer
should help that, along with my BAC.

True story. We had a get together here a couple of years ago - Mrs.
Wave collegues, some of mine and a few oher friends and neighbors. So
I went out to buy beer.

Now you have to understand that when I quit, over 30 years ago, there
wasn't much choice for beer - in fact, the height of American beer
snobbery was Coors - which you couldn't get on the East Coast at the
time.

Anyway, I went out and bought a case of Sam Adams lager, case of Bud
and a case of Pabst Red, White and Blue.

I had half a case of Sam, 3/4 case of Bud and the Pabst was gone.

Go figure. :)


I hate to admit it, but I really like Coors Light, but only when it's really
hot outside.

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On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 21:25:11 -0400, Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 05:24:40 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

If an English lit teacher was passing out assignments assignments for
students to give a book report. Various books are chosen, some long ,
some short.

OK, the list has several *options* None are specifically required.
Here's a sample list:

"To Kill a Mockingbird"
"All Quiet one the Western Front"
"Gulliver's Travels"
"Moby Dick"
"The book of Matthew"
"Oliver Twist"
"The Trial"

As long as the teacher understands the report might not be positive
and that the reporter may point out incongruities in the story line
and historic inaccuracies, where is the problem?

The problem is that I am sure that "the teacher" wouldn't allow such
criticism of the other works... But I know, it's Christianity so it's ok
to just trash it and forget the content.... pffffttt...

I wrote a lot of cynical book reports. At least they knew I read the
book and perhaps even tried to understand what they were trying to
tell me in a real world context.


I did one in college. I forget the book. The report was a couple of dozen
pages or so. The prof gave me a B- because it was "so negative." I
complained, and I pointed out that everything I wrote was supported by
logical points. He revised the grade to a B+.

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"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
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On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 22:28:50 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 21:25:11 -0400, Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 05:24:40 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

If an English lit teacher was passing out assignments assignments for
students to give a book report. Various books are chosen, some long ,
some short.

OK, the list has several *options* None are specifically required.
Here's a sample list:

"To Kill a Mockingbird"
"All Quiet one the Western Front"
"Gulliver's Travels"
"Moby Dick"
"The book of Matthew"
"Oliver Twist"
"The Trial"

As long as the teacher understands the report might not be positive
and that the reporter may point out incongruities in the story line
and historic inaccuracies, where is the problem?

The problem is that I am sure that "the teacher" wouldn't allow such
criticism of the other works... But I know, it's Christianity so it's ok
to just trash it and forget the content.... pffffttt...

I wrote a lot of cynical book reports. At least they knew I read the
book and perhaps even tried to understand what they were trying to
tell me in a real world context.

My problem with English Lit is that I never saw what others saw -
meaning that I never "grokked" it in the same way. I will admit I was
confused by that until I figured out why.

Everybody else was using Cliff Notes. :)

My favorite story about Eng. Lit. was when we had to read some Maya
Angelou - couple of pieces over the weekend for Monday morning
discussion.

I had been at odds with the professor more than once, but we had a
relatively cordial relationship. That Monday morning, the first thing
he asked was "Mr. Francis - care to tell us what you thought?"

To which I replied "if she's a poet, I'm the King of Siam."

You could have heard a pin drop in that room. :)

Oddly, I got out of that class with an A - apparently the professor
liked contrarian opinions. :)


I did much the same thing in the Third World Lit class. I complained that
the writing was really not very good. The prof was a black woman. I was the
only white person in the class. One of the black students accused me of
(inadvertent) racial prejudice, but the prof defended me, saying I was
right. We went on to have a great discussion about why the writing was so
poor... was it the translation (it was African as I recall), was it lack of
education, lack of literary background. At the end, the black guy
apologized. We still keep in touch on and off. There were two Latina women
who followed me outside after class to tell me "right on" they had the same
reaction, but were afraid to say anything.

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On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 20:56:48 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Oct 8, 10:28?pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 20:31:54 -0600, Vic Smith





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On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 21:26:03 -0400, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 21:20:49 -0400, Tosk
wrote:

Funny, as soon as I started to read the above paragraph I knew it was
our WAFA spinning his tales again...

Add speaks Russian - probably in French - to the list of
accomplishments.

He is truly the most interesting man in the world.

Heh heh. Timely. ?Daughters boyfriend, an international gadabout, left
a couple Coronas in the fridge while I was on vacation.
I passed, and grabbed a bottle of Harnas, "Of Polish Highlanders.".
Don't know how interesting I am, but drinking Polish hillbilly beer
should help that, along with my BAC.

True story. ?We had a get together here a couple of years ago - Mrs.
Wave collegues, some of mine and a few oher friends and neighbors. So
I went out to buy beer.

Now you have to understand that when I quit, over 30 years ago, there
wasn't much choice for beer - in fact, the height of American beer
snobbery was Coors - which you couldn't get on the East Coast at the
time.

Anyway, I went out and bought a case of Sam Adams lager, case of Bud
and a case of Pabst Red, White and Blue.

I had half a case of Sam, 3/4 case of Bud and the Pabst was gone.

Go figure. ?:)- Hide quoted text -

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Nest time go straight Old Milwaukee. or Strohs.

There won't be any beer left!

No accounting for tastes, but those have done good by me.
Never liked Bud or Sam Adams, but many do.
On that Coors Tom mentioned, he's exactly right.
Went I left Oregon in '72 to come home I picked up a couple cases of
Coors for my BIL, who had mentioned wanting to try it.
Couldn't get it in Chicago. Never wanted any more after tasting my
first can - not that I wasted the six-pack - and never hesitated about
leaving those cases on his doorstep.
Another case of the "grass is greener" I suspect.
Only beer I turn my nose up at and absolutely won't drink is those
Lite abominations. Sacrilege.
Just something wrong about that. It's sick.
All that diet stuff is crap. Better to just rein back those carts of
food going in your mouth than to eat bad stuff.
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....BUTTER.

--Vic

On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 00:36:04 -0400, wrote:



The guy who taught our english lit used to try to trap "cliff notes"
and classic comic book guys by looking for things in your report that
didn't make the cheater. Even if I couldn't actually wade through some
of these door stops I would skim them looking for off the wall stuff I
could dispute, using my European or ancient history books. It always
threw him off so bad he just gave up and gave me a good grade.

Some profs are in idling mode after settling on their lectures.
When somebody challenges their interpretations the good profs learn
something and enjoy it.
Always surprised me how lackluster student participation was in those
lit classes. Sometime I felt the prof and me might as well be alone,
since I was usually the only student talking to him.
It was nice when others piped up so I could get a break and hear other
voices.
Guess many students were just picking up hours and had no real
interest.

--Vic

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On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 23:40:14 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

I wrote a lot of cynical book reports. At least they knew I read the
book and perhaps even tried to understand what they were trying to
tell me in a real world context.

My problem with English Lit is that I never saw what others saw -
meaning that I never "grokked" it in the same way. I will admit I was
confused by that until I figured out why.

Everybody else was using Cliff Notes. :)

My favorite story about Eng. Lit. was when we had to read some Maya
Angelou - couple of pieces over the weekend for Monday morning
discussion.

I had been at odds with the professor more than once, but we had a
relatively cordial relationship. That Monday morning, the first thing
he asked was "Mr. Francis - care to tell us what you thought?"

To which I replied "if she's a poet, I'm the King of Siam."

You could have heard a pin drop in that room. :)

Oddly, I got out of that class with an A - apparently the professor
liked contrarian opinions. :)

The guy who taught our english lit used to try to trap "cliff notes"
and classic comic book guys by looking for things in your report that
didn't make the cheater. Even if I couldn't actually wade through some
of these door stops I would skim them looking for off the wall stuff I
could dispute, using my European or ancient history books. It always
threw him off so bad he just gave up and gave me a good grade.
That was also the guy who would just ask if anyone wanted to leave
after you turned in your work and got the next assignment. About
20-30% split right then and the rest sat around blathering about the
real meaning of Beowulf or something.
The back steps were right behind his classroom and there was a place
across the alley (at 18th and F NW) that would sell me a beer.

Loved Beowulf. But that was because out Eng 4 teacher in HS was great. She
did a reading of Beowulf with added sound effects, etc. Better than any of
the POS Beowulf movies. Then we discussed the book and the culture of mead
houses. But I go along with shortwave. Lots of the books I read in Eng Lit
were Boooring. I like good Sci-Fi and good history. To this day
Shakespeare's Mid summer nights dream, is still a nightmare.

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On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 23:28:52 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

Anyway, I went out and bought a case of Sam Adams lager, case of Bud
and a case of Pabst Red, White and Blue.

I had half a case of Sam, 3/4 case of Bud and the Pabst was gone.

Go figure. :)


I am drinking PBR these days. I have trouble finding regular Coors in
a bottle, my other choice.
I used to always drink Bud but I just lost the taste for it and I
don't like the heavy beers.
I drink Busch if I can't find PBR or Coors.

Coors was always available where I lived and could never understand the
draw. But I never drank much beer, as most of the American ones gave me a
headache. In Sydney, AU in business, an old guy pointed at my beer, Tooth's
Old, an amber beer and said that is good, Tooth's New would give you a
headache. Tooths new looked like Coors, or most other American Beers.

On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 23:39:07 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

Guess many students were just picking up hours and had no real
interest.

As far as English Lit goes, that was my approach. Common ground and
herd instinct doesn't interest me.

On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 20:56:48 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Oct 8, 10:28*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 20:31:54 -0600, Vic Smith





wrote:
On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 21:26:03 -0400, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 21:20:49 -0400, Tosk
wrote:

Funny, as soon as I started to read the above paragraph I knew it was
our WAFA spinning his tales again...

Add speaks Russian - probably in French - to the list of
accomplishments.

He is truly the most interesting man in the world.

Heh heh. Timely. *Daughters boyfriend, an international gadabout, left
a couple Coronas in the fridge while I was on vacation.
I passed, and grabbed a bottle of Harnas, "Of Polish Highlanders.".
Don't know how interesting I am, but drinking Polish hillbilly beer
should help that, along with my BAC.

True story. *We had a get together here a couple of years ago - Mrs.
Wave collegues, some of mine and a few oher friends and neighbors. So
I went out to buy beer.

Now you have to understand that when I quit, over 30 years ago, there
wasn't much choice for beer - in fact, the height of American beer
snobbery was Coors - which you couldn't get on the East Coast at the
time.

Anyway, I went out and bought a case of Sam Adams lager, case of Bud
and a case of Pabst Red, White and Blue.

I had half a case of Sam, 3/4 case of Bud and the Pabst was gone.

Go figure. *:)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Nest time go straight Old Milwaukee. or Strohs.

There won't be any beer left!

Oh beers - just got me to thinking.

Ballantine XXX (rat pee), Narragansett, Carling's (Mabel - Black
Label), Schaefer (the one beer to have when you're having more than
one - always thought that was a bit odd for a slogan), JAX, Falstaff
and of course the worst beer in the world that's actually good after a
while - Dixie. :)

Oh - thought of another one - Hamm's - The beer - refreshing.

I need to do some research on that - there's got to be a website with
old regional beers I don't remember.

On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 21:25:11 -0400, Tosk
wrote:

In ,
says...

On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 05:24:40 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

If an English lit teacher was passing out assignments assignments for
students to give a book report. Various books are chosen, some long ,
some short.

OK, the list has several *options* None are specifically required.
Here's a sample list:

"To Kill a Mockingbird"
"All Quiet one the Western Front"
"Gulliver's Travels"
"Moby Dick"
"The book of Matthew"
"Oliver Twist"
"The Trial"

As long as the teacher understands the report might not be positive
and that the reporter may point out incongruities in the story line
and historic inaccuracies, where is the problem?

The problem is that I am sure that "the teacher" wouldn't allow such
criticism of the other works... But I know, it's Christianity so it's ok
to just trash it and forget the content.... pffffttt...


The *other* books on the list are works of fiction, and in works of
fiction, historical inaccuracies might not be such a big deal. The books
in the so-called New Testament are supposed to be factual, so
inaccuracies matter.

Thus, Scott Ingersoll once again proves he is dumber than a rotting wood
post.




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Idiots All