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"H the K" wrote in message
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On 10/8/09 6:43 PM, Tim wrote:
On Oct 8, 4:56 pm, John H wrote:
On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 05:24:40 -0700 (PDT),
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Well maybe not. But seeing the creation, religion,evolution thread is
getting so long, I thought I'd ask a hypothetical question. Well maybe
it's not as hypothetical , but here goes.

If an English lit teacher was passing out assignments assignments for
students to give a book report. Various books are chosen, some long ,
some short.

OK, the list has several *options* None are specifically required.
Here's a sample list:

"To Kill a Mockingbird"
"All Quiet one the Western Front"
"Gulliver's Travels"
"Moby Dick"
"The book of Matthew"
"Oliver Twist"
"The Trial"

etc, etc.

Notice included is the Gospel account of Matthew. Would this be
considered as promoting religion?

AND! Even if it was required reading. could it be used for literary
purposes only?

Just curious.

If the purpose of the assignment was to promote religion, then it
would be promoting religion. If the purpose was to have the students
read decent writing and practice writing, then it would not be
promoting religion.

Of course, the ACLU and other atheists would probably disagree with
that. But then again, they would probably applaud the idea of
assigning a book report on Mao Zedong's Little Red Book.- Hide quoted
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Yes, like I said, I would have probably done a report on Hitlers Mein
Kampf if it was on the list, the "little red book?" That would have
been interesting too.

But today anything biblical or any book that might have a reference to
biblical scriptures probably wouldn't be available.

Some where down the line they've probably been replaced with the works
of Kate Chopin.


You know, I can't recall one class in public school where there was a
reading list of books from which reports had to be made. I recall lots of
reports in my classes based upon Dickens' novels and Austen's novels in
the 7th grade. Fine reads, but after that the reports came mostly on more
esoteric books, some good, some not so good. My 8th grade reports were on
several of Dreiser's novels. In the 10th grade, after two years of high
school Russian, I *dared* to read Dr. Zhivago in Russian, and then deliver
an oral book report on it in Russian in my Russian class. But I was
outdone by a gal who did the same with War and Peace.


We were mostly assigned books as I recall... don't remember what they were.

Funny, as soon as I started to read the above paragraph I knew it was
our WAFA spinning his tales again... Doesn't he know that nobody but
Donnie believes him when he gets going?? WAFA

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 05:24:40 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

If an English lit teacher was passing out assignments assignments for
students to give a book report. Various books are chosen, some long ,
some short.

OK, the list has several *options* None are specifically required.
Here's a sample list:

"To Kill a Mockingbird"
"All Quiet one the Western Front"
"Gulliver's Travels"
"Moby Dick"
"The book of Matthew"
"Oliver Twist"
"The Trial"

As long as the teacher understands the report might not be positive
and that the reporter may point out incongruities in the story line
and historic inaccuracies, where is the problem?

The problem is that I am sure that "the teacher" wouldn't allow such
criticism of the other works... But I know, it's Christianity so it's ok
to just trash it and forget the content.... pffffttt...

On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 21:20:49 -0400, Tosk
wrote:

Funny, as soon as I started to read the above paragraph I knew it was
our WAFA spinning his tales again...

Add speaks Russian - probably in French - to the list of
accomplishments.

He is truly the most interesting man in the world.

And about as real.

On 10/8/09 9:14 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
"Tom Francis - wrote in
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On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 05:24:40 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:


OK, the list has several *options* None are specifically required.
Here's a sample list:

"To Kill a Mockingbird"

Boring.

"All Quiet one the Western Front"

Even more boring.

"Gulliver's Travels"

Incredibly boring.

"Moby Dick"

Ridiculously boring.

"The book of Matthew"

B O R I N G

"Oliver Twist"

R E A L L Y B O R I N G.

"The Trial"

ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz....

Can you tell English Lit wasn't my favorite subject? :)


Well, I never thought any of those were boring.



Tom's literary choices are more along the lines of Stan Lee comics.

--
Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger:
Idiots All

On 10/8/09 9:26 PM, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 21:20:49 -0400, Tosk
wrote:

Funny, as soon as I started to read the above paragraph I knew it was
our WAFA spinning his tales again...

Add speaks Russian - probably in French - to the list of
accomplishments.

He is truly the most interesting man in the world.

And about as real.


Half my blood relatives on my father's side were mostly Russian,
dip****s. It's the language I heard a lot of and learned at my
grandfather's knee when we visited. All I had to do in high school was
formalize it. In fact, that's what the gal who did the War & Peace book
report did, as she also had a lot of Russian ancestors and relatives.
The other half consisted of Germans and Poles and Ukrainians.





--
Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger:
Idiots All

H the K wrote:
On 10/8/09 9:26 PM, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 21:20:49 -0400, Tosk
wrote:

Funny, as soon as I started to read the above paragraph I knew it was
our WAFA spinning his tales again...

Add speaks Russian - probably in French - to the list of
accomplishments.

He is truly the most interesting man in the world.

And about as real.


Half my blood relatives on my father's side were mostly Russian,
dip****s.


And the bloodline continues. They would have been soooo proud.

On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 21:26:03 -0400, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 21:20:49 -0400, Tosk
wrote:

Funny, as soon as I started to read the above paragraph I knew it was
our WAFA spinning his tales again...

Add speaks Russian - probably in French - to the list of
accomplishments.

He is truly the most interesting man in the world.

Heh heh. Timely. Daughters boyfriend, an international gadabout, left
a couple Coronas in the fridge while I was on vacation.
I passed, and grabbed a bottle of Harnas, "Of Polish Highlanders.".
Don't know how interesting I am, but drinking Polish hillbilly beer
should help that, along with my BAC.

--Vic

On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 20:31:54 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 21:26:03 -0400, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 21:20:49 -0400, Tosk
wrote:

Funny, as soon as I started to read the above paragraph I knew it was
our WAFA spinning his tales again...

Add speaks Russian - probably in French - to the list of
accomplishments.

He is truly the most interesting man in the world.

Heh heh. Timely. Daughters boyfriend, an international gadabout, left
a couple Coronas in the fridge while I was on vacation.
I passed, and grabbed a bottle of Harnas, "Of Polish Highlanders.".
Don't know how interesting I am, but drinking Polish hillbilly beer
should help that, along with my BAC.

True story. We had a get together here a couple of years ago - Mrs.
Wave collegues, some of mine and a few oher friends and neighbors. So
I went out to buy beer.

Now you have to understand that when I quit, over 30 years ago, there
wasn't much choice for beer - in fact, the height of American beer
snobbery was Coors - which you couldn't get on the East Coast at the
time.

Anyway, I went out and bought a case of Sam Adams lager, case of Bud
and a case of Pabst Red, White and Blue.

I had half a case of Sam, 3/4 case of Bud and the Pabst was gone.

Go figure. :)

On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 22:28:50 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 21:25:11 -0400, Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 05:24:40 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

If an English lit teacher was passing out assignments assignments for
students to give a book report. Various books are chosen, some long ,
some short.

OK, the list has several *options* None are specifically required.
Here's a sample list:

"To Kill a Mockingbird"
"All Quiet one the Western Front"
"Gulliver's Travels"
"Moby Dick"
"The book of Matthew"
"Oliver Twist"
"The Trial"

As long as the teacher understands the report might not be positive
and that the reporter may point out incongruities in the story line
and historic inaccuracies, where is the problem?

The problem is that I am sure that "the teacher" wouldn't allow such
criticism of the other works... But I know, it's Christianity so it's ok
to just trash it and forget the content.... pffffttt...

I wrote a lot of cynical book reports. At least they knew I read the
book and perhaps even tried to understand what they were trying to
tell me in a real world context.

My problem with English Lit is that I never saw what others saw -
meaning that I never "grokked" it in the same way. I will admit I was
confused by that until I figured out why.

Everybody else was using Cliff Notes. :)

My favorite story about Eng. Lit. was when we had to read some Maya
Angelou - couple of pieces over the weekend for Monday morning
discussion.

I had been at odds with the professor more than once, but we had a
relatively cordial relationship. That Monday morning, the first thing
he asked was "Mr. Francis - care to tell us what you thought?"

To which I replied "if she's a poet, I'm the King of Siam."

You could have heard a pin drop in that room. :)

Oddly, I got out of that class with an A - apparently the professor
liked contrarian opinions. :)

On Oct 8, 10:28*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 20:31:54 -0600, Vic Smith





wrote:
On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 21:26:03 -0400, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 21:20:49 -0400, Tosk
wrote:

Funny, as soon as I started to read the above paragraph I knew it was
our WAFA spinning his tales again...

Add speaks Russian - probably in French - to the list of
accomplishments.

He is truly the most interesting man in the world.

Heh heh. Timely. *Daughters boyfriend, an international gadabout, left
a couple Coronas in the fridge while I was on vacation.
I passed, and grabbed a bottle of Harnas, "Of Polish Highlanders.".
Don't know how interesting I am, but drinking Polish hillbilly beer
should help that, along with my BAC.

True story. *We had a get together here a couple of years ago - Mrs.
Wave collegues, some of mine and a few oher friends and neighbors. So
I went out to buy beer.

Now you have to understand that when I quit, over 30 years ago, there
wasn't much choice for beer - in fact, the height of American beer
snobbery was Coors - which you couldn't get on the East Coast at the
time.

Anyway, I went out and bought a case of Sam Adams lager, case of Bud
and a case of Pabst Red, White and Blue.

I had half a case of Sam, 3/4 case of Bud and the Pabst was gone.

Go figure. *:)- Hide quoted text -

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Nest time go straight Old Milwaukee. or Strohs.

There won't be any beer left!