On 5-Sep-2009, "Lu Powell" wrote:

Man couldn't fly, either, when the Constitution was written, but we have
an Air Force? So, are you saying health care doesn't "promote the
general Welfare", or are you saying the Founding Fathers expected this
country to stay exactly as it was in 1787?

So why not lobby for a constitutional amendment that would clarify the
issue? Barring that, sue for the elimination of the air force.

Nothing needs clarification. That cute phrase is to explain the purpose of
the constitution. It has ZERO weight.

In fact, if any imbiciles think the intro to the constitution is meaningful,
they probably read the ramblings on the walls of outhouses with serious
introspection also.

Steve wrote:
On 5-Sep-2009, "Lu Powell" wrote:

Man couldn't fly, either, when the Constitution was written, but we have
an Air Force? So, are you saying health care doesn't "promote the
general Welfare", or are you saying the Founding Fathers expected this
country to stay exactly as it was in 1787?
So why not lobby for a constitutional amendment that would clarify the
issue? Barring that, sue for the elimination of the air force.

Nothing needs clarification. That cute phrase is to explain the purpose of
the constitution. It has ZERO weight.

In fact, if any imbiciles think the intro to the constitution is meaningful,
they probably read the ramblings on the walls of outhouses with serious
introspection also.


Wow...dumb little Stevie got himself a right wing crib sheet. How clever.

Now all the "imbicile" (sic) needs is a dickshunairy.

On Sat, 05 Sep 2009 12:31:36 +0000, Steve wrote:


Nothing needs clarification. That cute phrase is to explain the purpose
of the constitution. It has ZERO weight.

The Preamble is a "cute phrase"? Interesting.

In fact, if any imbiciles think the intro to the constitution is
meaningful, they probably read the ramblings on the walls of outhouses
with serious introspection also.

Seeing the Preamble has "ZERO weight", I guess that's why our Founding
Fathers specifically repeated parts of it when enumerating the Powers of
Congress.

Sec. 8
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts
and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and
general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises
shall be uniform throughout the United States;

There's that pesky "general Welfare" again.

thunder wrote:
On Sat, 05 Sep 2009 12:31:36 +0000, Steve wrote:


Nothing needs clarification. That cute phrase is to explain the purpose
of the constitution. It has ZERO weight.

The Preamble is a "cute phrase"? Interesting.

In fact, if any imbiciles think the intro to the constitution is
meaningful, they probably read the ramblings on the walls of outhouses
with serious introspection also.

Seeing the Preamble has "ZERO weight", I guess that's why our Founding
Fathers specifically repeated parts of it when enumerating the Powers of
Congress.

Sec. 8
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts
and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and
general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises
shall be uniform throughout the United States;

There's that pesky "general Welfare" again.


Dollars to donuts, 90% of the "righties" here have never read the
Declaration of Independence and the Constitution.

thunder wrote:
On Sat, 05 Sep 2009 12:31:36 +0000, Steve wrote:


Nothing needs clarification. That cute phrase is to explain the purpose
of the constitution. It has ZERO weight.

The Preamble is a "cute phrase"? Interesting.

In fact, if any imbiciles think the intro to the constitution is
meaningful, they probably read the ramblings on the walls of outhouses
with serious introspection also.

Seeing the Preamble has "ZERO weight", I guess that's why our Founding
Fathers specifically repeated parts of it when enumerating the Powers of
Congress.

Sec. 8
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts
and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and
general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises
shall be uniform throughout the United States;

There's that pesky "general Welfare" again.

Preamble = an introduction

On Sep 5, 8:59*am, thunder wrote:
On Sat, 05 Sep 2009 12:31:36 +0000, Steve wrote:
Nothing needs clarification. That cute phrase is to explain the purpose
of the constitution. It has ZERO weight.

The Preamble is a "cute phrase"? *Interesting.

In fact, if any imbiciles think the intro to the constitution is
meaningful, they probably read the ramblings on the walls of outhouses
with serious introspection also.

Seeing the Preamble has "ZERO weight", I guess that's why our Founding
Fathers specifically repeated parts of it when enumerating the Powers of
Congress.

Sec. 8
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts
and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and
general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises
shall be uniform throughout the United States;

There's that pesky "general Welfare" again.

Get over it already. The constitution did NOT allow for progressive
taxation to provide health care for all citizens. That is a new,
socialist concept. The founding fathers would have nothing to do with
that, and you know it.

On Sat, 05 Sep 2009 07:59:28 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Sat, 05 Sep 2009 12:31:36 +0000, Steve wrote:


Nothing needs clarification. That cute phrase is to explain the purpose
of the constitution. It has ZERO weight.

The Preamble is a "cute phrase"? Interesting.

In fact, if any imbiciles think the intro to the constitution is
meaningful, they probably read the ramblings on the walls of outhouses
with serious introspection also.

Seeing the Preamble has "ZERO weight", I guess that's why our Founding
Fathers specifically repeated parts of it when enumerating the Powers of
Congress.

Sec. 8
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts
and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and
general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises
shall be uniform throughout the United States;

There's that pesky "general Welfare" again.

The fact that the FF saw the necessity of repeating parts of the
Preamble would lend credence to the lack of weight given the Preamble.

Of course, having Harry supporting you tends to increase the credence
of your comments.
--
John H

All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking.

"Steve" wrote in message
...
Nothing needs clarification. That cute phrase is to explain the purpose of
the constitution. It has ZERO weight.

In fact, if any imbiciles think the intro to the constitution is
meaningful,
they probably read the ramblings on the walls of outhouses with serious
introspection also.


You are completely wrong. Here's the link.

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/c...tion/preamble/

--
Nom=de=Plume

nom=de=plume wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message
...
Nothing needs clarification. That cute phrase is to explain the purpose of
the constitution. It has ZERO weight.

In fact, if any imbiciles think the intro to the constitution is
meaningful,
they probably read the ramblings on the walls of outhouses with serious
introspection also.


You are completely wrong. Here's the link.

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/c...tion/preamble/

For the purposes of this discussion there is no need to read beyond the
first sentence. It's very clear.

"Jim" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message
...
Nothing needs clarification. That cute phrase is to explain the purpose
of
the constitution. It has ZERO weight.

In fact, if any imbiciles think the intro to the constitution is
meaningful,
they probably read the ramblings on the walls of outhouses with serious
introspection also.


You are completely wrong. Here's the link.

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/c...tion/preamble/

For the purposes of this discussion there is no need to read beyond the
first sentence. It's very clear.


The first sentence of the Purpose and Effect of the Preamble is as follows.
Yes, it's very clear.

"Although the preamble is not a source of power for any department of the
Federal Government, the Supreme Court has often referred to it as evidence
of the origin, scope, and purpose of the Constitution."

--
Nom=de=Plume