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On 4-Sep-2009, Jack wrote:

The hell it doesn't. *It's in the Preamble, right after "provide for the
common defence". *It's "promote the general Welfare".

While you guys would love to spin it that way, you damn well know the
founding fathers didn't intend that statement to mean that the gov is
supposed to provide health care or heath insurance to its people.
Health insurance didn't even exist in the US when this was written.

You're fooling no one. You're either being disingenuous, or you're a
socialist idiot.

The stupidity promoted by them simply shows many people are evolving in
reverse. This is reinforced by their staring at an idiot box and thinking
they are informed.

Please do list us where you get your "real" information... New York
Lies? MSNBC/GE/DNC? The Daily Kos? Jay Lenno???

--
Wafa free since 2009

On 5-Sep-2009, JustWait wrote:

The stupidity promoted by them simply shows many people are evolving in
reverse. This is reinforced by their staring at an idiot box and
thinking
they are informed.

Please do list us where you get your "real" information... New York
Lies? MSNBC/GE/DNC? The Daily Kos? Jay Lenno???

Interesting list of misinformation. Do those itemize your list of sources?
It explains a lot.

How did you get enough money to input text in a news group? Rent-to-own???
Are you at a library?

Steve wrote:
On 4-Sep-2009, "Lu Powell" wrote:

Congress still denying health care

Congress has no authority to grant "health care."

I wish these people that think that the government should provide health
care would show me the section in the US Constitution or the amendments
that says that is a responsibility of the Federal government to provide
that health care.

On 4-Sep-2009, Keith Nuttle wrote:

Congress has no authority to grant "health care."

I wish these people that think that the government should provide health
care would show me the section in the US Constitution or the amendments
that says that is a responsibility of the Federal government to provide
that health care.

Or Asian auto discounts, or federal "education" etc. etc. etc.

Flush the toilette NOW, not in the enxt election.

Damm good time to split the country into several segments. The states have
NO purpose any longer except to be sub level asset collection divisions of
individuals' productivity so some scum can get elected.

The "gimmee everything for free" crowd needs to read some Solzhenitsyn, but
then if they could read, they wouldn't be so completely stupid.

Ohhhhhh ... forgot, they went to gubment skoolz..

Steve wrote:
On 4-Sep-2009, Keith Nuttle wrote:

Congress has no authority to grant "health care."
I wish these people that think that the government should provide health
care would show me the section in the US Constitution or the amendments
that says that is a responsibility of the Federal government to provide
that health care.

Or Asian auto discounts, or federal "education" etc. etc. etc.

Flush the toilette NOW, not in the enxt election.

Damm good time to split the country into several segments. The states have
NO purpose any longer except to be sub level asset collection divisions of
individuals' productivity so some scum can get elected.

The "gimmee everything for free" crowd needs to read some Solzhenitsyn, but
then if they could read, they wouldn't be so completely stupid.

Ohhhhhh ... forgot, they went to gubment skoolz..

I believe there was a small discussion of states rights about a 150
years ago. However parts are still being debated. An example is New
Orleans. Because of States Rights the Federal government could not go
into New Orleans until requested in witting by the local authorities.
People who did not understand the States Rights issues involved blamed
the federal government for not responding. When in reality the local
authorities decided they did not need help until it was to late.

This States Right Issue is why in some events the area are designated
disaster areas before the disaster occurs. The local authorities know
what is about to happen request the Federal Government in witting before
the disaster so the Federal government can start moving troops,
equipment, and supplies into the area.

On 4-Sep-2009, "Lu Powell" wrote:

Congress still denying health care

Congress has no authority to grant "health care."

Agreed, though that hasn't stopped it from doing a lot of crap.

Agreed. Are you willing to flush the toilet? Literally?

On 5-Sep-2009, thunder wrote:

Seeing the Preamble has "ZERO weight", I guess that's why our Founding
Fathers specifically repeated parts of it when enumerating the Powers of
Congress.

Sec. 8
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts
and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and
general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises
shall be uniform throughout the United States;

There's that pesky "general Welfare" again.

To pretend to agree with such stupidity, food, then shelter, is more
important than medical service. When your lackeys impose "free" food and
shelter, I'll address keeping the nonproductive masses alive.