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On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:38:15 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote: On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 02:04:50 -0700, jps penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: |On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 22:55:55 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: | | |"jps" wrote in message ... | On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:42:22 -0700, "Calif Bill" | wrote: | | |"jps" wrote in message om... | | Tries other methods, proves gun more effective... | | SHARONVILLE - .A woman rented a handgun at an indoor shooting range, | got some instructions on how to use it and then fatally shot herself, | police said Monday. | | Police in the Cincinnati suburb of Sharonville said they believe the | woman committed suicide Sunday at Target World, a public range that | sells and rents guns and has a dozen 25-yard target shooting lanes. | | The 46-year-old woman, Ann Fukuyama, of Cincinnati, died at a local | hospital, police said. | | Sgt. Keith Schoonover said the woman reportedly had attempted suicide | before by other means and police believe she went to the target range | to kill herself. He said she rented a 9 mm handgun, learned how to use | it and then went into a target shooting lane and shot herself. | | Witnesses said she gave no indication or warning that anything was | wrong. | | Target World manager Jeff Mann said the range was operating normally | Monday, but he wouldn't discuss the woman or the shooting because of | an ongoing investigation. | | | |It is a free country. She is free to kill herself. Better than her |killing |others to get suicide via cop. | | What are you talking about? | | Killing yourself is against the law in most states. In a few states | you can take your life if you're terminally ill. | | Since you don't drink, I'm left believing you're tugging on a bong. | |Killing yourself is not against the law. Attempting to kill yourself is |against the law. but the problem is not the pistol, but problem is the |reason she wanted to kill herself. | |If there weren't such an effective means of death easily available to |her, perhaps she'd have survived long enough to address the real |problem. | |Sounds logical, eh? No, it *doesn't* sound logical... in fact, nearly all of your ramblings on guns are devoid of logic. If it is so logical, why is a suicidaly deranged woman wandering about at large in the public? It could just have easily been you with the "Deranged woman in the food mart with a knife." But that just doesn't seem logical to you, does it? It just doesn't have o-o-o-o-h-h-h-h that "gun" word! Where guns are concerned, I think logic departs you. It's strange because you're otherwise very bright. I guess one blind spot in a life isn't so bad. The point is that she had tried other means. The gun **proved** to be the most effective tool for the job. How the **** can you argue that? By installing blinders. |
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On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:23:30 -0700, jps wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:42:22 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: It is a free country. She is free to kill herself. Better than her killing others to get suicide via cop. What are you talking about? Killing yourself is against the law in most states. In a few states you can take your life if you're terminally ill. Since you don't drink, I'm left believing you're tugging on a bong. Don't know about Bill's habits, but you almost gave me an acid flashback there. A LOL prevented it. So killing yourself is against the law. What's the penalty? --Vic |
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On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 06:29:17 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote: So killing yourself is against the law. What's the penalty? I supppose the state could confiscate the estate. Casady |
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On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 06:29:17 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote: On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:23:30 -0700, jps wrote: On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:42:22 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: It is a free country. She is free to kill herself. Better than her killing others to get suicide via cop. What are you talking about? Killing yourself is against the law in most states. In a few states you can take your life if you're terminally ill. Since you don't drink, I'm left believing you're tugging on a bong. Don't know about Bill's habits, but you almost gave me an acid flashback there. A LOL prevented it. So killing yourself is against the law. What's the penalty? --Vic You're a funny man but you miss the point, which is: It's not a "free country" as Bill says. If you're caught trying to kill yourself you get arrested. Not illegally like Gates but legally. What country isn't "free" if you're successful at killing yourself? And I don't believe you ever took acid. |
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On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:11:30 -0700, jps wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 06:29:17 -0500, Vic Smith wrote: On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:23:30 -0700, jps wrote: On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:42:22 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: It is a free country. She is free to kill herself. Better than her killing others to get suicide via cop. What are you talking about? Killing yourself is against the law in most states. In a few states you can take your life if you're terminally ill. Since you don't drink, I'm left believing you're tugging on a bong. Don't know about Bill's habits, but you almost gave me an acid flashback there. A LOL prevented it. So killing yourself is against the law. What's the penalty? --Vic You're a funny man but you miss the point, which is: It's not a "free country" as Bill says. If you're caught trying to kill yourself you get arrested. Not illegally like Gates but legally. I guess I missed the point, since I still don't get. What country isn't "free" if you're successful at killing yourself? Okay, I guess you took issue with the "it's a free country" part. That's just a common figure of speech. And I don't believe you ever took acid. Don't know whether that's an insult or compliment. But it doesn't matter either way. As long as you call me Mister Sunshine. --Vic |
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Gene Kearns wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:23:30 -0700, jps penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: |Killing yourself is against the law in most states. In a few states |you can take your life if you're terminally ill. The obvious solution is to incarcerate her. After sufficient period of counseling in a penal facility, I'm sure that she won't commit the same crime..... Exactly, they'll keep her safe in a little cell with little or no contact to the outside world, the other inmates will teach her skills that she never would have achieved in her middle class suburbia. She'll get three meals a day delivered to her, and no worries about clothing. With all of that, how could she possibly become depressed and take another try after her "rehabilitation"?........ |
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On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:28:34 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote: On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:23:30 -0700, jps penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: |Killing yourself is against the law in most states. In a few states |you can take your life if you're terminally ill. The obvious solution is to incarcerate her. After sufficient period of counseling in a penal facility, I'm sure that she won't commit the same crime..... I'm not arguing in favor of the law, just pointing out Bill's "free country" line isn't true. If you try to kill yourself and you're not successful, it's likely you'll be locked up, not in prison but in a nut house. That's the upshot of it being against the law. |
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jps wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:28:34 -0400, Gene Kearns wrote: On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:23:30 -0700, jps penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: |Killing yourself is against the law in most states. In a few states |you can take your life if you're terminally ill. The obvious solution is to incarcerate her. After sufficient period of counseling in a penal facility, I'm sure that she won't commit the same crime..... I'm not arguing in favor of the law, just pointing out Bill's "free country" line isn't true. If you try to kill yourself and you're not successful, it's likely you'll be locked up, not in prison but in a nut house. That's the upshot of it being against the law. And if it is not a "public" nut house, you'll be overcharged $1500 to $3000 a day for the privilege. -- Whatever moral rules you have proposed, abide by them as they were laws, and as if you would be guilty of impiety by violating any of them, *unless* you are a conservative Republican office holder or minister. If that is your position in life, then anything goes. |
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On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:05:48 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote: On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:14:59 -0700, jps penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: |On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:28:34 -0400, Gene Kearns wrote: | |On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:23:30 -0700, jps penned the following well |considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: | ||Killing yourself is against the law in most states. In a few states ||you can take your life if you're terminally ill. | |The obvious solution is to incarcerate her. After sufficient period of |counseling in a penal facility, I'm sure that she won't commit the |same crime..... | |I'm not arguing in favor of the law, just pointing out Bill's "free |country" line isn't true. | |If you try to kill yourself and you're not successful, it's likely |you'll be locked up, not in prison but in a nut house. | |That's the upshot of it being against the law. Your whole premiss is that passing a law is going to stop people from violating that law. Sort of like, if we pass a law against bank robbery, people won't rob banks. How many times does the fallacy of that position have to be proved? Well then, why not **** in public everywhere? Why the hell should you be able to stop me from buying a bazooka or a stinger missle if that's what I deem necessary to protect my family and property. It's my business how I handle it and none of your business whether I'm mentally stable enough to be responsible, until I kill someone with it. Bloody idiotic. Blinders Gene. |
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Not in this case:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,535083,00.html?mrp Nor He http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,...3:b26787654:z0 No gun play here either: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,...9:b26787654:z0 Nope: http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukp...Wd7_jjwZCHffYA Nix: http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...axy-gD99OC2D00 Fie: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/30/us/30mom.html?hpw |
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