Tries other methods, proves gun more effective...

SHARONVILLE — .A woman rented a handgun at an indoor shooting range,
got some instructions on how to use it and then fatally shot herself,
police said Monday.

Police in the Cincinnati suburb of Sharonville said they believe the
woman committed suicide Sunday at Target World, a public range that
sells and rents guns and has a dozen 25-yard target shooting lanes.

The 46-year-old woman, Ann Fukuyama, of Cincinnati, died at a local
hospital, police said.

Sgt. Keith Schoonover said the woman reportedly had attempted suicide
before by other means and police believe she went to the target range
to kill herself. He said she rented a 9 mm handgun, learned how to use
it and then went into a target shooting lane and shot herself.

Witnesses said she gave no indication or warning that anything was
wrong.

Target World manager Jeff Mann said the range was operating normally
Monday, but he wouldn’t discuss the woman or the shooting because of
an ongoing investigation.

"jps" wrote in message
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Tries other methods, proves gun more effective...

SHARONVILLE - .A woman rented a handgun at an indoor shooting range,
got some instructions on how to use it and then fatally shot herself,
police said Monday.

Police in the Cincinnati suburb of Sharonville said they believe the
woman committed suicide Sunday at Target World, a public range that
sells and rents guns and has a dozen 25-yard target shooting lanes.

The 46-year-old woman, Ann Fukuyama, of Cincinnati, died at a local
hospital, police said.

Sgt. Keith Schoonover said the woman reportedly had attempted suicide
before by other means and police believe she went to the target range
to kill herself. He said she rented a 9 mm handgun, learned how to use
it and then went into a target shooting lane and shot herself.

Witnesses said she gave no indication or warning that anything was
wrong.

Target World manager Jeff Mann said the range was operating normally
Monday, but he wouldn't discuss the woman or the shooting because of
an ongoing investigation.



It is a free country. She is free to kill herself. Better than her killing
others to get suicide via cop.

On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:42:22 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
.. .

Tries other methods, proves gun more effective...

SHARONVILLE - .A woman rented a handgun at an indoor shooting range,
got some instructions on how to use it and then fatally shot herself,
police said Monday.

Police in the Cincinnati suburb of Sharonville said they believe the
woman committed suicide Sunday at Target World, a public range that
sells and rents guns and has a dozen 25-yard target shooting lanes.

The 46-year-old woman, Ann Fukuyama, of Cincinnati, died at a local
hospital, police said.

Sgt. Keith Schoonover said the woman reportedly had attempted suicide
before by other means and police believe she went to the target range
to kill herself. He said she rented a 9 mm handgun, learned how to use
it and then went into a target shooting lane and shot herself.

Witnesses said she gave no indication or warning that anything was
wrong.

Target World manager Jeff Mann said the range was operating normally
Monday, but he wouldn't discuss the woman or the shooting because of
an ongoing investigation.



It is a free country. She is free to kill herself. Better than her killing
others to get suicide via cop.

What are you talking about?

Killing yourself is against the law in most states. In a few states
you can take your life if you're terminally ill.

Since you don't drink, I'm left believing you're tugging on a bong.

"jps" wrote in message
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On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:42:22 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:
SNIP

What are you talking about?

Killing yourself is against the law in most states. In a few states
you can take your life if you're terminally ill.


OK, so the *real* problem was the suicide, not the gun...right? People kill
themselves every day, just because a gun is involved doesn't make it any
worse. It would be worse if the used the gun on someone else before
themselves. More people commit suicide by jumping off bridges, than guns.
Should we ban bridges?

--Mike

On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 22:44:39 -0700, "mgg" wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:42:22 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:
SNIP

What are you talking about?

Killing yourself is against the law in most states. In a few states
you can take your life if you're terminally ill.


OK, so the *real* problem was the suicide, not the gun...right? People kill
themselves every day, just because a gun is involved doesn't make it any
worse. It would be worse if the used the gun on someone else before
themselves. More people commit suicide by jumping off bridges, than guns.
Should we ban bridges?

--Mike

My point is that guns are a far more effective means of killing than
most other methods. There are a gaggle of gun advocates in this very
newsgroup who consistently argue that a knife, a screwdriver or a
pencil is just as effective at killing and I call bull****.

This story is just one example of how effective guns are at killing
when other methods aren't nearly as deadly. You can't do equivalent
damage to someone with a knife from 10 feet as you can a gun, unless
you're a circus performer or lumberjack.

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:31:43 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 02:03:47 -0700, jps penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 22:44:39 -0700, "mgg" wrote:
|
|
|"jps" wrote in message
...
| On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:42:22 -0700, "Calif Bill"
| wrote:
|SNIP
|
| What are you talking about?
|
| Killing yourself is against the law in most states. In a few states
| you can take your life if you're terminally ill.
|
|
|OK, so the *real* problem was the suicide, not the gun...right? People kill
|themselves every day, just because a gun is involved doesn't make it any
|worse. It would be worse if the used the gun on someone else before
|themselves. More people commit suicide by jumping off bridges, than guns.
|Should we ban bridges?
|
|--Mike
|
|My point is that guns are a far more effective means of killing than
|most other methods. There are a gaggle of gun advocates in this very
|newsgroup who consistently argue that a knife, a screwdriver or a
|pencil is just as effective at killing and I call bull****.
|
|This story is just one example of how effective guns are at killing
|when other methods aren't nearly as deadly. You can't do equivalent
|damage to someone with a knife from 10 feet as you can a gun, unless
|you're a circus performer or lumberjack.

The point is, she didn't do it at 10 feet.... so she obviously didn't
need a gun. Most women that commit suicide do not use violent means.
Why don't you champion eliminating all of the things they use?

Or do you have some sort of strange gun fetish?

Yes, I have a gun fetish but not of a sexual nature.

The US has been stupid about controlling guns, their sale and rampant
availability.

Countries that control guns do not have the murder rate we do in the
US. Please don't suggest we ban screwdrivers. It's a specious
argument put up for simpletons.

"jps" wrote in message
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On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:42:22 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
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Tries other methods, proves gun more effective...

SHARONVILLE - .A woman rented a handgun at an indoor shooting range,
got some instructions on how to use it and then fatally shot herself,
police said Monday.

Police in the Cincinnati suburb of Sharonville said they believe the
woman committed suicide Sunday at Target World, a public range that
sells and rents guns and has a dozen 25-yard target shooting lanes.

The 46-year-old woman, Ann Fukuyama, of Cincinnati, died at a local
hospital, police said.

Sgt. Keith Schoonover said the woman reportedly had attempted suicide
before by other means and police believe she went to the target range
to kill herself. He said she rented a 9 mm handgun, learned how to use
it and then went into a target shooting lane and shot herself.

Witnesses said she gave no indication or warning that anything was
wrong.

Target World manager Jeff Mann said the range was operating normally
Monday, but he wouldn't discuss the woman or the shooting because of
an ongoing investigation.



It is a free country. She is free to kill herself. Better than her
killing
others to get suicide via cop.

What are you talking about?

Killing yourself is against the law in most states. In a few states
you can take your life if you're terminally ill.

Since you don't drink, I'm left believing you're tugging on a bong.

Killing yourself is not against the law. Attempting to kill yourself is
against the law. but the problem is not the pistol, but problem is the
reason she wanted to kill herself.

On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 22:55:55 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:42:22 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
...

Tries other methods, proves gun more effective...

SHARONVILLE - .A woman rented a handgun at an indoor shooting range,
got some instructions on how to use it and then fatally shot herself,
police said Monday.

Police in the Cincinnati suburb of Sharonville said they believe the
woman committed suicide Sunday at Target World, a public range that
sells and rents guns and has a dozen 25-yard target shooting lanes.

The 46-year-old woman, Ann Fukuyama, of Cincinnati, died at a local
hospital, police said.

Sgt. Keith Schoonover said the woman reportedly had attempted suicide
before by other means and police believe she went to the target range
to kill herself. He said she rented a 9 mm handgun, learned how to use
it and then went into a target shooting lane and shot herself.

Witnesses said she gave no indication or warning that anything was
wrong.

Target World manager Jeff Mann said the range was operating normally
Monday, but he wouldn't discuss the woman or the shooting because of
an ongoing investigation.



It is a free country. She is free to kill herself. Better than her
killing
others to get suicide via cop.

What are you talking about?

Killing yourself is against the law in most states. In a few states
you can take your life if you're terminally ill.

Since you don't drink, I'm left believing you're tugging on a bong.

Killing yourself is not against the law. Attempting to kill yourself is
against the law. but the problem is not the pistol, but problem is the
reason she wanted to kill herself.

If there weren't such an effective means of death easily available to
her, perhaps she'd have survived long enough to address the real
problem.

Sounds logical, eh?

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 02:04:50 -0700, jps wrote:

If there weren't such an effective means of death easily available to
her, perhaps she'd have survived long enough to address the real
problem.

How many have access to an auto?

Casady

"jps" wrote in message
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On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 22:55:55 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:42:22 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
m...

Tries other methods, proves gun more effective...

SHARONVILLE - .A woman rented a handgun at an indoor shooting range,
got some instructions on how to use it and then fatally shot herself,
police said Monday.

Police in the Cincinnati suburb of Sharonville said they believe the
woman committed suicide Sunday at Target World, a public range that
sells and rents guns and has a dozen 25-yard target shooting lanes.

The 46-year-old woman, Ann Fukuyama, of Cincinnati, died at a local
hospital, police said.

Sgt. Keith Schoonover said the woman reportedly had attempted suicide
before by other means and police believe she went to the target range
to kill herself. He said she rented a 9 mm handgun, learned how to use
it and then went into a target shooting lane and shot herself.

Witnesses said she gave no indication or warning that anything was
wrong.

Target World manager Jeff Mann said the range was operating normally
Monday, but he wouldn't discuss the woman or the shooting because of
an ongoing investigation.



It is a free country. She is free to kill herself. Better than her
killing
others to get suicide via cop.

What are you talking about?

Killing yourself is against the law in most states. In a few states
you can take your life if you're terminally ill.

Since you don't drink, I'm left believing you're tugging on a bong.

Killing yourself is not against the law. Attempting to kill yourself is
against the law. but the problem is not the pistol, but problem is the
reason she wanted to kill herself.

If there weren't such an effective means of death easily available to
her, perhaps she'd have survived long enough to address the real
problem.

Sounds logical, eh?

Nope. Most suicides have tried before. They are talking millions to build
a suicide barrier on the Golden Gate Bridge. Will that stop suicides?
Maybe at the bridge, but not anywhere else. Maybe they should make a diving
board, so the body does not hit a boat passing under the bridge (has
happened), and save a lot of money spent searching for the body. You go
through psycho counseling and get a ticket to the board.