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jps July 28th 09 08:38 PM

Woman proves gun effective
 

Tries other methods, proves gun more effective...

SHARONVILLE — .A woman rented a handgun at an indoor shooting range,
got some instructions on how to use it and then fatally shot herself,
police said Monday.

Police in the Cincinnati suburb of Sharonville said they believe the
woman committed suicide Sunday at Target World, a public range that
sells and rents guns and has a dozen 25-yard target shooting lanes.

The 46-year-old woman, Ann Fukuyama, of Cincinnati, died at a local
hospital, police said.

Sgt. Keith Schoonover said the woman reportedly had attempted suicide
before by other means and police believe she went to the target range
to kill herself. He said she rented a 9 mm handgun, learned how to use
it and then went into a target shooting lane and shot herself.

Witnesses said she gave no indication or warning that anything was
wrong.

Target World manager Jeff Mann said the range was operating normally
Monday, but he wouldn’t discuss the woman or the shooting because of
an ongoing investigation.



Calif Bill[_2_] July 29th 09 03:42 AM

Woman proves gun effective
 

"jps" wrote in message
...

Tries other methods, proves gun more effective...

SHARONVILLE - .A woman rented a handgun at an indoor shooting range,
got some instructions on how to use it and then fatally shot herself,
police said Monday.

Police in the Cincinnati suburb of Sharonville said they believe the
woman committed suicide Sunday at Target World, a public range that
sells and rents guns and has a dozen 25-yard target shooting lanes.

The 46-year-old woman, Ann Fukuyama, of Cincinnati, died at a local
hospital, police said.

Sgt. Keith Schoonover said the woman reportedly had attempted suicide
before by other means and police believe she went to the target range
to kill herself. He said she rented a 9 mm handgun, learned how to use
it and then went into a target shooting lane and shot herself.

Witnesses said she gave no indication or warning that anything was
wrong.

Target World manager Jeff Mann said the range was operating normally
Monday, but he wouldn't discuss the woman or the shooting because of
an ongoing investigation.



It is a free country. She is free to kill herself. Better than her killing
others to get suicide via cop.



jps July 29th 09 05:23 AM

Woman proves gun effective
 
On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:42:22 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
.. .

Tries other methods, proves gun more effective...

SHARONVILLE - .A woman rented a handgun at an indoor shooting range,
got some instructions on how to use it and then fatally shot herself,
police said Monday.

Police in the Cincinnati suburb of Sharonville said they believe the
woman committed suicide Sunday at Target World, a public range that
sells and rents guns and has a dozen 25-yard target shooting lanes.

The 46-year-old woman, Ann Fukuyama, of Cincinnati, died at a local
hospital, police said.

Sgt. Keith Schoonover said the woman reportedly had attempted suicide
before by other means and police believe she went to the target range
to kill herself. He said she rented a 9 mm handgun, learned how to use
it and then went into a target shooting lane and shot herself.

Witnesses said she gave no indication or warning that anything was
wrong.

Target World manager Jeff Mann said the range was operating normally
Monday, but he wouldn't discuss the woman or the shooting because of
an ongoing investigation.



It is a free country. She is free to kill herself. Better than her killing
others to get suicide via cop.


What are you talking about?

Killing yourself is against the law in most states. In a few states
you can take your life if you're terminally ill.

Since you don't drink, I'm left believing you're tugging on a bong.

mgg July 29th 09 06:44 AM

Woman proves gun effective
 

"jps" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:42:22 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

SNIP

What are you talking about?

Killing yourself is against the law in most states. In a few states
you can take your life if you're terminally ill.



OK, so the *real* problem was the suicide, not the gun...right? People kill
themselves every day, just because a gun is involved doesn't make it any
worse. It would be worse if the used the gun on someone else before
themselves. More people commit suicide by jumping off bridges, than guns.
Should we ban bridges?

--Mike



Calif Bill[_2_] July 29th 09 06:55 AM

Woman proves gun effective
 

"jps" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:42:22 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
. ..

Tries other methods, proves gun more effective...

SHARONVILLE - .A woman rented a handgun at an indoor shooting range,
got some instructions on how to use it and then fatally shot herself,
police said Monday.

Police in the Cincinnati suburb of Sharonville said they believe the
woman committed suicide Sunday at Target World, a public range that
sells and rents guns and has a dozen 25-yard target shooting lanes.

The 46-year-old woman, Ann Fukuyama, of Cincinnati, died at a local
hospital, police said.

Sgt. Keith Schoonover said the woman reportedly had attempted suicide
before by other means and police believe she went to the target range
to kill herself. He said she rented a 9 mm handgun, learned how to use
it and then went into a target shooting lane and shot herself.

Witnesses said she gave no indication or warning that anything was
wrong.

Target World manager Jeff Mann said the range was operating normally
Monday, but he wouldn't discuss the woman or the shooting because of
an ongoing investigation.



It is a free country. She is free to kill herself. Better than her
killing
others to get suicide via cop.


What are you talking about?

Killing yourself is against the law in most states. In a few states
you can take your life if you're terminally ill.

Since you don't drink, I'm left believing you're tugging on a bong.


Killing yourself is not against the law. Attempting to kill yourself is
against the law. but the problem is not the pistol, but problem is the
reason she wanted to kill herself.



jps July 29th 09 10:03 AM

Woman proves gun effective
 
On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 22:44:39 -0700, "mgg" wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:42:22 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

SNIP

What are you talking about?

Killing yourself is against the law in most states. In a few states
you can take your life if you're terminally ill.



OK, so the *real* problem was the suicide, not the gun...right? People kill
themselves every day, just because a gun is involved doesn't make it any
worse. It would be worse if the used the gun on someone else before
themselves. More people commit suicide by jumping off bridges, than guns.
Should we ban bridges?

--Mike


My point is that guns are a far more effective means of killing than
most other methods. There are a gaggle of gun advocates in this very
newsgroup who consistently argue that a knife, a screwdriver or a
pencil is just as effective at killing and I call bull****.

This story is just one example of how effective guns are at killing
when other methods aren't nearly as deadly. You can't do equivalent
damage to someone with a knife from 10 feet as you can a gun, unless
you're a circus performer or lumberjack.

jps July 29th 09 10:04 AM

Woman proves gun effective
 
On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 22:55:55 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:42:22 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
...

Tries other methods, proves gun more effective...

SHARONVILLE - .A woman rented a handgun at an indoor shooting range,
got some instructions on how to use it and then fatally shot herself,
police said Monday.

Police in the Cincinnati suburb of Sharonville said they believe the
woman committed suicide Sunday at Target World, a public range that
sells and rents guns and has a dozen 25-yard target shooting lanes.

The 46-year-old woman, Ann Fukuyama, of Cincinnati, died at a local
hospital, police said.

Sgt. Keith Schoonover said the woman reportedly had attempted suicide
before by other means and police believe she went to the target range
to kill herself. He said she rented a 9 mm handgun, learned how to use
it and then went into a target shooting lane and shot herself.

Witnesses said she gave no indication or warning that anything was
wrong.

Target World manager Jeff Mann said the range was operating normally
Monday, but he wouldn't discuss the woman or the shooting because of
an ongoing investigation.



It is a free country. She is free to kill herself. Better than her
killing
others to get suicide via cop.


What are you talking about?

Killing yourself is against the law in most states. In a few states
you can take your life if you're terminally ill.

Since you don't drink, I'm left believing you're tugging on a bong.


Killing yourself is not against the law. Attempting to kill yourself is
against the law. but the problem is not the pistol, but problem is the
reason she wanted to kill herself.


If there weren't such an effective means of death easily available to
her, perhaps she'd have survived long enough to address the real
problem.

Sounds logical, eh?

Vic Smith July 29th 09 12:29 PM

Woman proves gun effective
 
On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:23:30 -0700, jps wrote:

On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:42:22 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:



It is a free country. She is free to kill herself. Better than her killing
others to get suicide via cop.


What are you talking about?

Killing yourself is against the law in most states. In a few states
you can take your life if you're terminally ill.

Since you don't drink, I'm left believing you're tugging on a bong.


Don't know about Bill's habits, but you almost gave me an acid
flashback there. A LOL prevented it.
So killing yourself is against the law.
What's the penalty?

--Vic


Richard Casady July 29th 09 12:47 PM

Woman proves gun effective
 
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 02:04:50 -0700, jps wrote:

If there weren't such an effective means of death easily available to
her, perhaps she'd have survived long enough to address the real
problem.


How many have access to an auto?

Casady

Richard Casady July 29th 09 12:56 PM

Woman proves gun effective
 
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 06:29:17 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

So killing yourself is against the law.
What's the penalty?


I supppose the state could confiscate the estate.

Casady


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