Woman proves gun effective
 

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:05:48 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:14:59 -0700, jps penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:28:34 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:
|
|On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:23:30 -0700, jps penned the following well
|considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:
|
||Killing yourself is against the law in most states. In a few states
||you can take your life if you're terminally ill.
|
|The obvious solution is to incarcerate her. After sufficient period of
|counseling in a penal facility, I'm sure that she won't commit the
|same crime.....
|
|I'm not arguing in favor of the law, just pointing out Bill's "free
|country" line isn't true.
|
|If you try to kill yourself and you're not successful, it's likely
|you'll be locked up, not in prison but in a nut house.
|
|That's the upshot of it being against the law.

Your whole premiss is that passing a law is going to stop people from
violating that law. Sort of like, if we pass a law against bank
robbery, people won't rob banks.

How many times does the fallacy of that position have to be proved?

Well then, why not **** in public everywhere?

Why the hell should you be able to stop me from buying a bazooka or a
stinger missle if that's what I deem necessary to protect my family
and property.

It's my business how I handle it and none of your business whether I'm
mentally stable enough to be responsible, until I kill someone with
it.

Bloody idiotic. Blinders Gene.

Woman proves gun effective
 

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:11:30 -0700, jps wrote:

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 06:29:17 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:23:30 -0700, jps wrote:

On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:42:22 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:



It is a free country. She is free to kill herself. Better than her killing
others to get suicide via cop.

What are you talking about?

Killing yourself is against the law in most states. In a few states
you can take your life if you're terminally ill.

Since you don't drink, I'm left believing you're tugging on a bong.

Don't know about Bill's habits, but you almost gave me an acid
flashback there. A LOL prevented it.
So killing yourself is against the law.
What's the penalty?

--Vic

You're a funny man but you miss the point, which is:

It's not a "free country" as Bill says. If you're caught trying to
kill yourself you get arrested. Not illegally like Gates but legally.

I guess I missed the point, since I still don't get.

What country isn't "free" if you're successful at killing yourself?

Okay, I guess you took issue with the "it's a free country" part.
That's just a common figure of speech.

And I don't believe you ever took acid.

Don't know whether that's an insult or compliment.
But it doesn't matter either way.
As long as you call me Mister Sunshine.

--Vic

Woman proves gun effective
 

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:47:51 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:11:30 -0700, jps wrote:

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 06:29:17 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:23:30 -0700, jps wrote:

On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:42:22 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:



It is a free country. She is free to kill herself. Better than her killing
others to get suicide via cop.

What are you talking about?

Killing yourself is against the law in most states. In a few states
you can take your life if you're terminally ill.

Since you don't drink, I'm left believing you're tugging on a bong.

Don't know about Bill's habits, but you almost gave me an acid
flashback there. A LOL prevented it.
So killing yourself is against the law.
What's the penalty?

--Vic

You're a funny man but you miss the point, which is:

It's not a "free country" as Bill says. If you're caught trying to
kill yourself you get arrested. Not illegally like Gates but legally.

I guess I missed the point, since I still don't get.

What country isn't "free" if you're successful at killing yourself?

Okay, I guess you took issue with the "it's a free country" part.
That's just a common figure of speech.

And I don't believe you ever took acid.

Don't know whether that's an insult or compliment.
But it doesn't matter either way.
As long as you call me Mister Sunshine.

--Vic

People who have taken acid are a hell of a lot more likely to
understand the power of the brain than those who haven't.

Woman proves gun effective
 

jps wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:50:14 -0400, H the K
wrote:

Gene Kearns wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:06:19 -0700, jps penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:38:15 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:
|
|On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 02:04:50 -0700, jps penned the following well
|considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:
|
||On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 22:55:55 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:
||
||
||"jps" wrote in message
m...
|| On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:42:22 -0700, "Calif Bill"
|| wrote:
||
||
||"jps" wrote in message
||news:msku6596bnh6ghqkln52tdjkqi4lgrmka3@4ax. com...
||
|| Tries other methods, proves gun more effective...
||
|| SHARONVILLE - .A woman rented a handgun at an indoor shooting range,
|| got some instructions on how to use it and then fatally shot herself,
|| police said Monday.
||
|| Police in the Cincinnati suburb of Sharonville said they believe the
|| woman committed suicide Sunday at Target World, a public range that
|| sells and rents guns and has a dozen 25-yard target shooting lanes.
||
|| The 46-year-old woman, Ann Fukuyama, of Cincinnati, died at a local
|| hospital, police said.
||
|| Sgt. Keith Schoonover said the woman reportedly had attempted suicide
|| before by other means and police believe she went to the target range
|| to kill herself. He said she rented a 9 mm handgun, learned how to use
|| it and then went into a target shooting lane and shot herself.
||
|| Witnesses said she gave no indication or warning that anything was
|| wrong.
||
|| Target World manager Jeff Mann said the range was operating normally
|| Monday, but he wouldn't discuss the woman or the shooting because of
|| an ongoing investigation.
||
||
||
||It is a free country. She is free to kill herself. Better than her
||killing
||others to get suicide via cop.
||
|| What are you talking about?
||
|| Killing yourself is against the law in most states. In a few states
|| you can take your life if you're terminally ill.
||
|| Since you don't drink, I'm left believing you're tugging on a bong.
||
||Killing yourself is not against the law. Attempting to kill yourself is
||against the law. but the problem is not the pistol, but problem is the
||reason she wanted to kill herself.
||
||If there weren't such an effective means of death easily available to
||her, perhaps she'd have survived long enough to address the real
||problem.
||
||Sounds logical, eh?
|
|No, it *doesn't* sound logical... in fact, nearly all of your
|ramblings on guns are devoid of logic.
|
|If it is so logical, why is a suicidaly deranged woman wandering about
|at large in the public? It could just have easily been you with the
|"Deranged woman in the food mart with a knife."
|
|But that just doesn't seem logical to you, does it? It just doesn't
|have o-o-o-o-h-h-h-h that "gun" word!
|
|Where guns are concerned, I think logic departs you.
|
|It's strange because you're otherwise very bright. I guess one blind
|spot in a life isn't so bad.
|
|The point is that she had tried other means. The gun **proved** to be
|the most effective tool for the job.
|
|How the **** can you argue that? By installing blinders.

No, by using logic. The gun proved nothing. She happened to choose
that, for whatever reason, rather than jump off an overpass..... just
as deadly, by the way, and requires NO practice whatsoever.


There are some posters here who would pick the wrong overpass and have
to repeat the jump, several times.

Not to mention it's a hell of a lot easier to hold a gun to your head
and pull the trigger than to stand on a bridge and jump.

More funky logic from the gun lobby.

JPS,
You forget Harry is rec.boats local Gun Nut.

--
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jps wrote:


People who have taken acid are a hell of a lot more likely to
understand the power of the brain than those who haven't.

LOL, yeah right.

--
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spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in
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On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 10:41:20 -0700, jps wrote:

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:50:14 -0400, H the K
wrote:

Gene Kearns wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:06:19 -0700, jps penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:38:15 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:
|
|On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 02:04:50 -0700, jps penned the following well
|considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:
|
||On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 22:55:55 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:
||
||
||"jps" wrote in message
m...
|| On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:42:22 -0700, "Calif Bill"
|| wrote:
||
||
||"jps" wrote in message
||news:msku6596bnh6ghqkln52tdjkqi4lgrmka3@4ax. com...
||
|| Tries other methods, proves gun more effective...
||
|| SHARONVILLE - .A woman rented a handgun at an indoor shooting range,
|| got some instructions on how to use it and then fatally shot herself,
|| police said Monday.
||
|| Police in the Cincinnati suburb of Sharonville said they believe the
|| woman committed suicide Sunday at Target World, a public range that
|| sells and rents guns and has a dozen 25-yard target shooting lanes.
||
|| The 46-year-old woman, Ann Fukuyama, of Cincinnati, died at a local
|| hospital, police said.
||
|| Sgt. Keith Schoonover said the woman reportedly had attempted suicide
|| before by other means and police believe she went to the target range
|| to kill herself. He said she rented a 9 mm handgun, learned how to use
|| it and then went into a target shooting lane and shot herself.
||
|| Witnesses said she gave no indication or warning that anything was
|| wrong.
||
|| Target World manager Jeff Mann said the range was operating normally
|| Monday, but he wouldn't discuss the woman or the shooting because of
|| an ongoing investigation.
||
||
||
||It is a free country. She is free to kill herself. Better than her
||killing
||others to get suicide via cop.
||
|| What are you talking about?
||
|| Killing yourself is against the law in most states. In a few states
|| you can take your life if you're terminally ill.
||
|| Since you don't drink, I'm left believing you're tugging on a bong.
||
||Killing yourself is not against the law. Attempting to kill yourself is
||against the law. but the problem is not the pistol, but problem is the
||reason she wanted to kill herself.
||
||If there weren't such an effective means of death easily available to
||her, perhaps she'd have survived long enough to address the real
||problem.
||
||Sounds logical, eh?
|
|No, it *doesn't* sound logical... in fact, nearly all of your
|ramblings on guns are devoid of logic.
|
|If it is so logical, why is a suicidaly deranged woman wandering about
|at large in the public? It could just have easily been you with the
|"Deranged woman in the food mart with a knife."
|
|But that just doesn't seem logical to you, does it? It just doesn't
|have o-o-o-o-h-h-h-h that "gun" word!
|
|Where guns are concerned, I think logic departs you.
|
|It's strange because you're otherwise very bright. I guess one blind
|spot in a life isn't so bad.
|
|The point is that she had tried other means. The gun **proved** to be
|the most effective tool for the job.
|
|How the **** can you argue that? By installing blinders.

No, by using logic. The gun proved nothing. She happened to choose
that, for whatever reason, rather than jump off an overpass..... just
as deadly, by the way, and requires NO practice whatsoever.



There are some posters here who would pick the wrong overpass and have
to repeat the jump, several times.

Not to mention it's a hell of a lot easier to hold a gun to your head
and pull the trigger than to stand on a bridge and jump.

More funky logic from the gun lobby.

Would you happen any posthumous critique of technique for Sylvia
Plath? How 'bout James Jones? Or Abe Biggs?

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"jps" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 22:55:55 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:42:22 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
m...

Tries other methods, proves gun more effective...

SHARONVILLE - .A woman rented a handgun at an indoor shooting range,
got some instructions on how to use it and then fatally shot herself,
police said Monday.

Police in the Cincinnati suburb of Sharonville said they believe the
woman committed suicide Sunday at Target World, a public range that
sells and rents guns and has a dozen 25-yard target shooting lanes.

The 46-year-old woman, Ann Fukuyama, of Cincinnati, died at a local
hospital, police said.

Sgt. Keith Schoonover said the woman reportedly had attempted suicide
before by other means and police believe she went to the target range
to kill herself. He said she rented a 9 mm handgun, learned how to use
it and then went into a target shooting lane and shot herself.

Witnesses said she gave no indication or warning that anything was
wrong.

Target World manager Jeff Mann said the range was operating normally
Monday, but he wouldn't discuss the woman or the shooting because of
an ongoing investigation.



It is a free country. She is free to kill herself. Better than her
killing
others to get suicide via cop.

What are you talking about?

Killing yourself is against the law in most states. In a few states
you can take your life if you're terminally ill.

Since you don't drink, I'm left believing you're tugging on a bong.

Killing yourself is not against the law. Attempting to kill yourself is
against the law. but the problem is not the pistol, but problem is the
reason she wanted to kill herself.

If there weren't such an effective means of death easily available to
her, perhaps she'd have survived long enough to address the real
problem.

Sounds logical, eh?

Nope. Most suicides have tried before. They are talking millions to build
a suicide barrier on the Golden Gate Bridge. Will that stop suicides?
Maybe at the bridge, but not anywhere else. Maybe they should make a diving
board, so the body does not hit a boat passing under the bridge (has
happened), and save a lot of money spent searching for the body. You go
through psycho counseling and get a ticket to the board.

Woman proves gun effective
 

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:31:14 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 10:41:20 -0700, jps wrote:

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:50:14 -0400, H the K
wrote:

Gene Kearns wrote:
snipped for brevity

No, by using logic. The gun proved nothing. She happened to choose
that, for whatever reason, rather than jump off an overpass..... just
as deadly, by the way, and requires NO practice whatsoever.



There are some posters here who would pick the wrong overpass and have
to repeat the jump, several times.

Not to mention it's a hell of a lot easier to hold a gun to your head
and pull the trigger than to stand on a bridge and jump.

More funky logic from the gun lobby.

Would you happen any posthumous critique of technique for Sylvia
Plath? How 'bout James Jones? Or Abe Biggs?

Correction:

Would you happen to have any posthumous critique of technique for
Sylvia Plath? How 'bout James Jones? Or Abe Biggs?

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"jps" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:50:14 -0400, H the K
wrote:

Gene Kearns wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:06:19 -0700, jps penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:38:15 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:
|
|On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 02:04:50 -0700, jps penned the following well
|considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:
|
||On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 22:55:55 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:
||
||
||"jps" wrote in message
m...
|| On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:42:22 -0700, "Calif Bill"
|| wrote:
||
||
||"jps" wrote in message
||news:msku6596bnh6ghqkln52tdjkqi4lgrmka3@4ax. com...
||
|| Tries other methods, proves gun more effective...
||
|| SHARONVILLE - .A woman rented a handgun at an indoor shooting
range,
|| got some instructions on how to use it and then fatally shot
herself,
|| police said Monday.
||
|| Police in the Cincinnati suburb of Sharonville said they believe
the
|| woman committed suicide Sunday at Target World, a public range
that
|| sells and rents guns and has a dozen 25-yard target shooting
lanes.
||
|| The 46-year-old woman, Ann Fukuyama, of Cincinnati, died at a
local
|| hospital, police said.
||
|| Sgt. Keith Schoonover said the woman reportedly had attempted
suicide
|| before by other means and police believe she went to the target
range
|| to kill herself. He said she rented a 9 mm handgun, learned how
to use
|| it and then went into a target shooting lane and shot herself.
||
|| Witnesses said she gave no indication or warning that anything
was
|| wrong.
||
|| Target World manager Jeff Mann said the range was operating
normally
|| Monday, but he wouldn't discuss the woman or the shooting
because of
|| an ongoing investigation.
||
||
||
||It is a free country. She is free to kill herself. Better than
her
||killing
||others to get suicide via cop.
||
|| What are you talking about?
||
|| Killing yourself is against the law in most states. In a few
states
|| you can take your life if you're terminally ill.
||
|| Since you don't drink, I'm left believing you're tugging on a
bong.
||
||Killing yourself is not against the law. Attempting to kill
yourself is
||against the law. but the problem is not the pistol, but problem is
the
||reason she wanted to kill herself.
||
||If there weren't such an effective means of death easily available to
||her, perhaps she'd have survived long enough to address the real
||problem.
||
||Sounds logical, eh?
|
|No, it *doesn't* sound logical... in fact, nearly all of your
|ramblings on guns are devoid of logic.
|
|If it is so logical, why is a suicidaly deranged woman wandering about
|at large in the public? It could just have easily been you with the
|"Deranged woman in the food mart with a knife."
|
|But that just doesn't seem logical to you, does it? It just doesn't
|have o-o-o-o-h-h-h-h that "gun" word!
|
|Where guns are concerned, I think logic departs you.
|
|It's strange because you're otherwise very bright. I guess one blind
|spot in a life isn't so bad.
|
|The point is that she had tried other means. The gun **proved** to be
|the most effective tool for the job.
|
|How the **** can you argue that? By installing blinders.

No, by using logic. The gun proved nothing. She happened to choose
that, for whatever reason, rather than jump off an overpass..... just
as deadly, by the way, and requires NO practice whatsoever.



There are some posters here who would pick the wrong overpass and have
to repeat the jump, several times.

Not to mention it's a hell of a lot easier to hold a gun to your head
and pull the trigger than to stand on a bridge and jump.

More funky logic from the gun lobby.

The gun at least only killed her. Jumping off a building, has killed
passerby's. About 15 years ago, guy jumped off one of the local overpasses
in to the front of a school bus. Bus taking the kids to Great America
Amusement park for an end of year bash. Sure screwed up the day and the
minds of those kids.

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"jps" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:47:51 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:11:30 -0700, jps wrote:

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 06:29:17 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:23:30 -0700, jps wrote:

On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:42:22 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:



It is a free country. She is free to kill herself. Better than her
killing
others to get suicide via cop.

What are you talking about?

Killing yourself is against the law in most states. In a few states
you can take your life if you're terminally ill.

Since you don't drink, I'm left believing you're tugging on a bong.

Don't know about Bill's habits, but you almost gave me an acid
flashback there. A LOL prevented it.
So killing yourself is against the law.
What's the penalty?

--Vic

You're a funny man but you miss the point, which is:

It's not a "free country" as Bill says. If you're caught trying to
kill yourself you get arrested. Not illegally like Gates but legally.

I guess I missed the point, since I still don't get.

What country isn't "free" if you're successful at killing yourself?

Okay, I guess you took issue with the "it's a free country" part.
That's just a common figure of speech.

And I don't believe you ever took acid.

Don't know whether that's an insult or compliment.
But it doesn't matter either way.
As long as you call me Mister Sunshine.

--Vic

People who have taken acid are a hell of a lot more likely to
understand the power of the brain than those who haven't.


LOL!