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Calif Bill[_2_] July 30th 09 03:42 AM

Woman proves gun effective
 

"jps" wrote in message
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On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:24:30 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
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On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:00:56 -0700, "Calif Bill"
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On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:49:42 -0700, "Calif Bill"
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"jps" wrote in message
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On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:47:51 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:11:30 -0700, jps wrote:

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 06:29:17 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:23:30 -0700, jps wrote:

On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:42:22 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:



It is a free country. She is free to kill herself. Better than
her
killing
others to get suicide via cop.

What are you talking about?

Killing yourself is against the law in most states. In a few
states
you can take your life if you're terminally ill.

Since you don't drink, I'm left believing you're tugging on a
bong.

Don't know about Bill's habits, but you almost gave me an acid
flashback there. A LOL prevented it.
So killing yourself is against the law.
What's the penalty?

--Vic

You're a funny man but you miss the point, which is:

It's not a "free country" as Bill says. If you're caught trying to
kill yourself you get arrested. Not illegally like Gates but
legally.

I guess I missed the point, since I still don't get.

What country isn't "free" if you're successful at killing yourself?

Okay, I guess you took issue with the "it's a free country" part.
That's just a common figure of speech.

And I don't believe you ever took acid.

Don't know whether that's an insult or compliment.
But it doesn't matter either way.
As long as you call me Mister Sunshine.

--Vic

People who have taken acid are a hell of a lot more likely to
understand the power of the brain than those who haven't.


LOL!

Uh oh. Vic, I think we've got at least two Mr. Sunshine's posting at
rec.boats.

I'm commenting from articles I've read, of course.

My aquaintances who injested LSD, do not seem to be any smarter about
brain
function than anyone else. A couple are totally screwed up.

But they're a hell of lot more aware of what realities a brain can
manufacture when its chemistry is altered.


Maybe they do, and maybe they do not remember. Which is your situation?


You don't know them very well. I remember everything.


You remember all and remember nothing. You think you remember. I had just
left a party at a Frat house at UC Berkeley. Young man on LSD decides to
catch a passing airliner and steps on the upper story window. Splat. You
abused drugs if you did LSD. Still abusing, or loving them?



jps July 30th 09 04:27 AM

Woman proves gun effective
 
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:42:44 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:24:30 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:00:56 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
om...
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:49:42 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
news:vd317598mnjdnmm5spsf0svc50nflq8f0l@4ax .com...
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:47:51 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:11:30 -0700, jps wrote:

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 06:29:17 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:23:30 -0700, jps wrote:

On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:42:22 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:



It is a free country. She is free to kill herself. Better than
her
killing
others to get suicide via cop.

What are you talking about?

Killing yourself is against the law in most states. In a few
states
you can take your life if you're terminally ill.

Since you don't drink, I'm left believing you're tugging on a
bong.

Don't know about Bill's habits, but you almost gave me an acid
flashback there. A LOL prevented it.
So killing yourself is against the law.
What's the penalty?

--Vic

You're a funny man but you miss the point, which is:

It's not a "free country" as Bill says. If you're caught trying to
kill yourself you get arrested. Not illegally like Gates but
legally.

I guess I missed the point, since I still don't get.

What country isn't "free" if you're successful at killing yourself?

Okay, I guess you took issue with the "it's a free country" part.
That's just a common figure of speech.

And I don't believe you ever took acid.

Don't know whether that's an insult or compliment.
But it doesn't matter either way.
As long as you call me Mister Sunshine.

--Vic

People who have taken acid are a hell of a lot more likely to
understand the power of the brain than those who haven't.


LOL!

Uh oh. Vic, I think we've got at least two Mr. Sunshine's posting at
rec.boats.

I'm commenting from articles I've read, of course.

My aquaintances who injested LSD, do not seem to be any smarter about
brain
function than anyone else. A couple are totally screwed up.

But they're a hell of lot more aware of what realities a brain can
manufacture when its chemistry is altered.

Maybe they do, and maybe they do not remember. Which is your situation?


You don't know them very well. I remember everything.


You remember all and remember nothing. You think you remember. I had just
left a party at a Frat house at UC Berkeley. Young man on LSD decides to
catch a passing airliner and steps on the upper story window. Splat. You
abused drugs if you did LSD. Still abusing, or loving them?


I remember the extraordinary experiences in my life as do most normal
humans. Any experimentation that I've done is long in the past. I'll
say that I wasn't afraid to try things but I never got hooked on
anything.

What prescription medication are you on? Ever get hooked?

TopBassDog July 30th 09 05:27 AM

Woman proves gun effective
 
Not in this case:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,535083,00.html?mrp

Nor He

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,...3:b26787654:z0

No gun play here either:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,...9:b26787654:z0


Nope:

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukp...Wd7_jjwZCHffYA

Nix:

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...axy-gD99OC2D00

Fie:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/30/us/30mom.html?hpw

Calif Bill[_2_] July 30th 09 06:05 AM

Woman proves gun effective
 

"jps" wrote in message
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On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:42:44 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:24:30 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
m...
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:00:56 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
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On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:49:42 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
news:vd317598mnjdnmm5spsf0svc50nflq8f0l@4a x.com...
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:47:51 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:11:30 -0700, jps wrote:

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 06:29:17 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:23:30 -0700, jps
wrote:

On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:42:22 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:



It is a free country. She is free to kill herself. Better
than
her
killing
others to get suicide via cop.

What are you talking about?

Killing yourself is against the law in most states. In a few
states
you can take your life if you're terminally ill.

Since you don't drink, I'm left believing you're tugging on a
bong.

Don't know about Bill's habits, but you almost gave me an acid
flashback there. A LOL prevented it.
So killing yourself is against the law.
What's the penalty?

--Vic

You're a funny man but you miss the point, which is:

It's not a "free country" as Bill says. If you're caught trying
to
kill yourself you get arrested. Not illegally like Gates but
legally.

I guess I missed the point, since I still don't get.

What country isn't "free" if you're successful at killing
yourself?

Okay, I guess you took issue with the "it's a free country" part.
That's just a common figure of speech.

And I don't believe you ever took acid.

Don't know whether that's an insult or compliment.
But it doesn't matter either way.
As long as you call me Mister Sunshine.

--Vic

People who have taken acid are a hell of a lot more likely to
understand the power of the brain than those who haven't.


LOL!

Uh oh. Vic, I think we've got at least two Mr. Sunshine's posting
at
rec.boats.

I'm commenting from articles I've read, of course.

My aquaintances who injested LSD, do not seem to be any smarter about
brain
function than anyone else. A couple are totally screwed up.

But they're a hell of lot more aware of what realities a brain can
manufacture when its chemistry is altered.

Maybe they do, and maybe they do not remember. Which is your situation?

You don't know them very well. I remember everything.


You remember all and remember nothing. You think you remember. I had
just
left a party at a Frat house at UC Berkeley. Young man on LSD decides to
catch a passing airliner and steps on the upper story window. Splat. You
abused drugs if you did LSD. Still abusing, or loving them?


I remember the extraordinary experiences in my life as do most normal
humans. Any experimentation that I've done is long in the past. I'll
say that I wasn't afraid to try things but I never got hooked on
anything.

What prescription medication are you on? Ever get hooked?


What prescription medication are you on? I take a daily vitamin. No
prescription medication. well next week will probably be on antibiotics
after knee scoping.



jps July 30th 09 07:05 AM

Woman proves gun effective
 
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:05:30 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
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On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:42:44 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:24:30 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
om...
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:00:56 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
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On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:49:42 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
news:vd317598mnjdnmm5spsf0svc50nflq8f0l@4 ax.com...
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:47:51 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:11:30 -0700, jps wrote:

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 06:29:17 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:23:30 -0700, jps
wrote:

On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:42:22 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:



It is a free country. She is free to kill herself. Better
than
her
killing
others to get suicide via cop.

What are you talking about?

Killing yourself is against the law in most states. In a few
states
you can take your life if you're terminally ill.

Since you don't drink, I'm left believing you're tugging on a
bong.

Don't know about Bill's habits, but you almost gave me an acid
flashback there. A LOL prevented it.
So killing yourself is against the law.
What's the penalty?

--Vic

You're a funny man but you miss the point, which is:

It's not a "free country" as Bill says. If you're caught trying
to
kill yourself you get arrested. Not illegally like Gates but
legally.

I guess I missed the point, since I still don't get.

What country isn't "free" if you're successful at killing
yourself?

Okay, I guess you took issue with the "it's a free country" part.
That's just a common figure of speech.

And I don't believe you ever took acid.

Don't know whether that's an insult or compliment.
But it doesn't matter either way.
As long as you call me Mister Sunshine.

--Vic

People who have taken acid are a hell of a lot more likely to
understand the power of the brain than those who haven't.


LOL!

Uh oh. Vic, I think we've got at least two Mr. Sunshine's posting
at
rec.boats.

I'm commenting from articles I've read, of course.

My aquaintances who injested LSD, do not seem to be any smarter about
brain
function than anyone else. A couple are totally screwed up.

But they're a hell of lot more aware of what realities a brain can
manufacture when its chemistry is altered.

Maybe they do, and maybe they do not remember. Which is your situation?

You don't know them very well. I remember everything.

You remember all and remember nothing. You think you remember. I had
just
left a party at a Frat house at UC Berkeley. Young man on LSD decides to
catch a passing airliner and steps on the upper story window. Splat. You
abused drugs if you did LSD. Still abusing, or loving them?


I remember the extraordinary experiences in my life as do most normal
humans. Any experimentation that I've done is long in the past. I'll
say that I wasn't afraid to try things but I never got hooked on
anything.

What prescription medication are you on? Ever get hooked?


What prescription medication are you on? I take a daily vitamin. No
prescription medication. well next week will probably be on antibiotics
after knee scoping.


Ah, you'll be popping percocets or hydrododone or maybe Rush's drug
while you knee heals. You'll get hooked and ask your maid to go score
for you downtown.

Calif Bill[_2_] July 30th 09 08:42 AM

Woman proves gun effective
 

"jps" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:05:30 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:42:44 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
m...
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:24:30 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
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On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:00:56 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
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On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:49:42 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
news:vd317598mnjdnmm5spsf0svc50nflq8f0l@ 4ax.com...
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:47:51 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:11:30 -0700, jps
wrote:

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 06:29:17 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:23:30 -0700, jps
wrote:

On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:42:22 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:



It is a free country. She is free to kill herself. Better
than
her
killing
others to get suicide via cop.

What are you talking about?

Killing yourself is against the law in most states. In a few
states
you can take your life if you're terminally ill.

Since you don't drink, I'm left believing you're tugging on a
bong.

Don't know about Bill's habits, but you almost gave me an acid
flashback there. A LOL prevented it.
So killing yourself is against the law.
What's the penalty?

--Vic

You're a funny man but you miss the point, which is:

It's not a "free country" as Bill says. If you're caught
trying
to
kill yourself you get arrested. Not illegally like Gates but
legally.

I guess I missed the point, since I still don't get.

What country isn't "free" if you're successful at killing
yourself?

Okay, I guess you took issue with the "it's a free country"
part.
That's just a common figure of speech.

And I don't believe you ever took acid.

Don't know whether that's an insult or compliment.
But it doesn't matter either way.
As long as you call me Mister Sunshine.

--Vic

People who have taken acid are a hell of a lot more likely to
understand the power of the brain than those who haven't.


LOL!

Uh oh. Vic, I think we've got at least two Mr. Sunshine's posting
at
rec.boats.

I'm commenting from articles I've read, of course.

My aquaintances who injested LSD, do not seem to be any smarter
about
brain
function than anyone else. A couple are totally screwed up.

But they're a hell of lot more aware of what realities a brain can
manufacture when its chemistry is altered.

Maybe they do, and maybe they do not remember. Which is your
situation?

You don't know them very well. I remember everything.

You remember all and remember nothing. You think you remember. I had
just
left a party at a Frat house at UC Berkeley. Young man on LSD decides
to
catch a passing airliner and steps on the upper story window. Splat.
You
abused drugs if you did LSD. Still abusing, or loving them?

I remember the extraordinary experiences in my life as do most normal
humans. Any experimentation that I've done is long in the past. I'll
say that I wasn't afraid to try things but I never got hooked on
anything.

What prescription medication are you on? Ever get hooked?


What prescription medication are you on? I take a daily vitamin. No
prescription medication. well next week will probably be on antibiotics
after knee scoping.


Ah, you'll be popping percocets or hydrododone or maybe Rush's drug
while you knee heals. You'll get hooked and ask your maid to go score
for you downtown.


Not. Most pain killers make me upchuck. Can not keep them down long enough
to get hooked. Which drug are you hooked on?



jps July 30th 09 09:18 AM

Woman proves gun effective
 
On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 00:42:36 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:05:30 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:42:44 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
om...
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:24:30 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
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On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:00:56 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
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On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:49:42 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
news:vd317598mnjdnmm5spsf0svc50nflq8f0l @4ax.com...
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:47:51 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:11:30 -0700, jps
wrote:

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 06:29:17 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:23:30 -0700, jps
wrote:

On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:42:22 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:



It is a free country. She is free to kill herself. Better
than
her
killing
others to get suicide via cop.

What are you talking about?

Killing yourself is against the law in most states. In a few
states
you can take your life if you're terminally ill.

Since you don't drink, I'm left believing you're tugging on a
bong.

Don't know about Bill's habits, but you almost gave me an acid
flashback there. A LOL prevented it.
So killing yourself is against the law.
What's the penalty?

--Vic

You're a funny man but you miss the point, which is:

It's not a "free country" as Bill says. If you're caught
trying
to
kill yourself you get arrested. Not illegally like Gates but
legally.

I guess I missed the point, since I still don't get.

What country isn't "free" if you're successful at killing
yourself?

Okay, I guess you took issue with the "it's a free country"
part.
That's just a common figure of speech.

And I don't believe you ever took acid.

Don't know whether that's an insult or compliment.
But it doesn't matter either way.
As long as you call me Mister Sunshine.

--Vic

People who have taken acid are a hell of a lot more likely to
understand the power of the brain than those who haven't.


LOL!

Uh oh. Vic, I think we've got at least two Mr. Sunshine's posting
at
rec.boats.

I'm commenting from articles I've read, of course.

My aquaintances who injested LSD, do not seem to be any smarter
about
brain
function than anyone else. A couple are totally screwed up.

But they're a hell of lot more aware of what realities a brain can
manufacture when its chemistry is altered.

Maybe they do, and maybe they do not remember. Which is your
situation?

You don't know them very well. I remember everything.

You remember all and remember nothing. You think you remember. I had
just
left a party at a Frat house at UC Berkeley. Young man on LSD decides
to
catch a passing airliner and steps on the upper story window. Splat.
You
abused drugs if you did LSD. Still abusing, or loving them?

I remember the extraordinary experiences in my life as do most normal
humans. Any experimentation that I've done is long in the past. I'll
say that I wasn't afraid to try things but I never got hooked on
anything.

What prescription medication are you on? Ever get hooked?

What prescription medication are you on? I take a daily vitamin. No
prescription medication. well next week will probably be on antibiotics
after knee scoping.


Ah, you'll be popping percocets or hydrododone or maybe Rush's drug
while you knee heals. You'll get hooked and ask your maid to go score
for you downtown.


Not. Most pain killers make me upchuck. Can not keep them down long enough
to get hooked. Which drug are you hooked on?


You Bill, you're my drug. I just can't get enough dork. Never could
be one myself so I have to experience it through osmosis. You're the
purest dork I've ever shot.

[email protected] July 30th 09 06:12 PM

Woman proves gun effective
 
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 21:16:27 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 21:04:12 -0400, H the K
wrote:

snipped for clarification

...and has everything to do with the effectiveness of guns in taking a
life. Not that they are all that effective, mind you. I had a friend
in high school who shot himself twice in the chest with a .22. When
that failed, he took a double-barreld 12 gauge out to his car, slipped
his mouth over the barrels bracing the but of the shotgun against the
floorboard, and pulled the triggers. I recall seeing a picture of a
man (ogre.com) who tried to commit suicide with a shotgun, and all he
managed to do was to blow his face off. There are more effective ways
to commit suicide, and the implication that individual gun ownership
rights need to be revoked by virtue of the effectiveness argument (or
any argument for that matter) is naive.


The web site cited above was actually ogrish.com. I think ogrish was
either absorbed by liveleak.com or became liveleak.com. I have never
been clear on that.

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Calif Bill[_2_] July 30th 09 09:33 PM

Woman proves gun effective
 

"jps" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 00:42:36 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:



You Bill, you're my drug. I just can't get enough dork. Never could
be one myself so I have to experience it through osmosis. You're the
purest dork I've ever shot.


Dork? You are the dork here. And I figure you are on drugs. Either legal
or illegal. But you are a druggie from your writings. Either that, or you
are just a foul mouthed Just Plain Stupid person.



jps July 31st 09 09:02 AM

Woman proves gun effective
 
On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:33:54 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 00:42:36 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:



You Bill, you're my drug. I just can't get enough dork. Never could
be one myself so I have to experience it through osmosis. You're the
purest dork I've ever shot.


Dork? You are the dork here. And I figure you are on drugs. Either legal
or illegal. But you are a druggie from your writings. Either that, or you
are just a foul mouthed Just Plain Stupid person.


You were a dork in the Haight when I was in elementary school.

You've got dork written all over you.


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