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Woman proves gun effective
Tries other methods, proves gun more effective... SHARONVILLE — .A woman rented a handgun at an indoor shooting range, got some instructions on how to use it and then fatally shot herself, police said Monday. Police in the Cincinnati suburb of Sharonville said they believe the woman committed suicide Sunday at Target World, a public range that sells and rents guns and has a dozen 25-yard target shooting lanes. The 46-year-old woman, Ann Fukuyama, of Cincinnati, died at a local hospital, police said. Sgt. Keith Schoonover said the woman reportedly had attempted suicide before by other means and police believe she went to the target range to kill herself. He said she rented a 9 mm handgun, learned how to use it and then went into a target shooting lane and shot herself. Witnesses said she gave no indication or warning that anything was wrong. Target World manager Jeff Mann said the range was operating normally Monday, but he wouldn’t discuss the woman or the shooting because of an ongoing investigation. |
Woman proves gun effective
"jps" wrote in message ... Tries other methods, proves gun more effective... SHARONVILLE - .A woman rented a handgun at an indoor shooting range, got some instructions on how to use it and then fatally shot herself, police said Monday. Police in the Cincinnati suburb of Sharonville said they believe the woman committed suicide Sunday at Target World, a public range that sells and rents guns and has a dozen 25-yard target shooting lanes. The 46-year-old woman, Ann Fukuyama, of Cincinnati, died at a local hospital, police said. Sgt. Keith Schoonover said the woman reportedly had attempted suicide before by other means and police believe she went to the target range to kill herself. He said she rented a 9 mm handgun, learned how to use it and then went into a target shooting lane and shot herself. Witnesses said she gave no indication or warning that anything was wrong. Target World manager Jeff Mann said the range was operating normally Monday, but he wouldn't discuss the woman or the shooting because of an ongoing investigation. It is a free country. She is free to kill herself. Better than her killing others to get suicide via cop. |
Woman proves gun effective
On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:42:22 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote: "jps" wrote in message .. . Tries other methods, proves gun more effective... SHARONVILLE - .A woman rented a handgun at an indoor shooting range, got some instructions on how to use it and then fatally shot herself, police said Monday. Police in the Cincinnati suburb of Sharonville said they believe the woman committed suicide Sunday at Target World, a public range that sells and rents guns and has a dozen 25-yard target shooting lanes. The 46-year-old woman, Ann Fukuyama, of Cincinnati, died at a local hospital, police said. Sgt. Keith Schoonover said the woman reportedly had attempted suicide before by other means and police believe she went to the target range to kill herself. He said she rented a 9 mm handgun, learned how to use it and then went into a target shooting lane and shot herself. Witnesses said she gave no indication or warning that anything was wrong. Target World manager Jeff Mann said the range was operating normally Monday, but he wouldn't discuss the woman or the shooting because of an ongoing investigation. It is a free country. She is free to kill herself. Better than her killing others to get suicide via cop. What are you talking about? Killing yourself is against the law in most states. In a few states you can take your life if you're terminally ill. Since you don't drink, I'm left believing you're tugging on a bong. |
Woman proves gun effective
"jps" wrote in message ... On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:42:22 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: SNIP What are you talking about? Killing yourself is against the law in most states. In a few states you can take your life if you're terminally ill. OK, so the *real* problem was the suicide, not the gun...right? People kill themselves every day, just because a gun is involved doesn't make it any worse. It would be worse if the used the gun on someone else before themselves. More people commit suicide by jumping off bridges, than guns. Should we ban bridges? --Mike |
Woman proves gun effective
"jps" wrote in message ... On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:42:22 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: "jps" wrote in message . .. Tries other methods, proves gun more effective... SHARONVILLE - .A woman rented a handgun at an indoor shooting range, got some instructions on how to use it and then fatally shot herself, police said Monday. Police in the Cincinnati suburb of Sharonville said they believe the woman committed suicide Sunday at Target World, a public range that sells and rents guns and has a dozen 25-yard target shooting lanes. The 46-year-old woman, Ann Fukuyama, of Cincinnati, died at a local hospital, police said. Sgt. Keith Schoonover said the woman reportedly had attempted suicide before by other means and police believe she went to the target range to kill herself. He said she rented a 9 mm handgun, learned how to use it and then went into a target shooting lane and shot herself. Witnesses said she gave no indication or warning that anything was wrong. Target World manager Jeff Mann said the range was operating normally Monday, but he wouldn't discuss the woman or the shooting because of an ongoing investigation. It is a free country. She is free to kill herself. Better than her killing others to get suicide via cop. What are you talking about? Killing yourself is against the law in most states. In a few states you can take your life if you're terminally ill. Since you don't drink, I'm left believing you're tugging on a bong. Killing yourself is not against the law. Attempting to kill yourself is against the law. but the problem is not the pistol, but problem is the reason she wanted to kill herself. |
Woman proves gun effective
On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 22:44:39 -0700, "mgg" wrote:
"jps" wrote in message .. . On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:42:22 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: SNIP What are you talking about? Killing yourself is against the law in most states. In a few states you can take your life if you're terminally ill. OK, so the *real* problem was the suicide, not the gun...right? People kill themselves every day, just because a gun is involved doesn't make it any worse. It would be worse if the used the gun on someone else before themselves. More people commit suicide by jumping off bridges, than guns. Should we ban bridges? --Mike My point is that guns are a far more effective means of killing than most other methods. There are a gaggle of gun advocates in this very newsgroup who consistently argue that a knife, a screwdriver or a pencil is just as effective at killing and I call bull****. This story is just one example of how effective guns are at killing when other methods aren't nearly as deadly. You can't do equivalent damage to someone with a knife from 10 feet as you can a gun, unless you're a circus performer or lumberjack. |
Woman proves gun effective
On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 22:55:55 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote: "jps" wrote in message .. . On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:42:22 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: "jps" wrote in message ... Tries other methods, proves gun more effective... SHARONVILLE - .A woman rented a handgun at an indoor shooting range, got some instructions on how to use it and then fatally shot herself, police said Monday. Police in the Cincinnati suburb of Sharonville said they believe the woman committed suicide Sunday at Target World, a public range that sells and rents guns and has a dozen 25-yard target shooting lanes. The 46-year-old woman, Ann Fukuyama, of Cincinnati, died at a local hospital, police said. Sgt. Keith Schoonover said the woman reportedly had attempted suicide before by other means and police believe she went to the target range to kill herself. He said she rented a 9 mm handgun, learned how to use it and then went into a target shooting lane and shot herself. Witnesses said she gave no indication or warning that anything was wrong. Target World manager Jeff Mann said the range was operating normally Monday, but he wouldn't discuss the woman or the shooting because of an ongoing investigation. It is a free country. She is free to kill herself. Better than her killing others to get suicide via cop. What are you talking about? Killing yourself is against the law in most states. In a few states you can take your life if you're terminally ill. Since you don't drink, I'm left believing you're tugging on a bong. Killing yourself is not against the law. Attempting to kill yourself is against the law. but the problem is not the pistol, but problem is the reason she wanted to kill herself. If there weren't such an effective means of death easily available to her, perhaps she'd have survived long enough to address the real problem. Sounds logical, eh? |
Woman proves gun effective
On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:23:30 -0700, jps wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:42:22 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: It is a free country. She is free to kill herself. Better than her killing others to get suicide via cop. What are you talking about? Killing yourself is against the law in most states. In a few states you can take your life if you're terminally ill. Since you don't drink, I'm left believing you're tugging on a bong. Don't know about Bill's habits, but you almost gave me an acid flashback there. A LOL prevented it. So killing yourself is against the law. What's the penalty? --Vic |
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On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 02:04:50 -0700, jps wrote:
If there weren't such an effective means of death easily available to her, perhaps she'd have survived long enough to address the real problem. How many have access to an auto? Casady |
Woman proves gun effective
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 06:29:17 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote: So killing yourself is against the law. What's the penalty? I supppose the state could confiscate the estate. Casady |
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Gene Kearns wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:23:30 -0700, jps penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: |Killing yourself is against the law in most states. In a few states |you can take your life if you're terminally ill. The obvious solution is to incarcerate her. After sufficient period of counseling in a penal facility, I'm sure that she won't commit the same crime..... Exactly, they'll keep her safe in a little cell with little or no contact to the outside world, the other inmates will teach her skills that she never would have achieved in her middle class suburbia. She'll get three meals a day delivered to her, and no worries about clothing. With all of that, how could she possibly become depressed and take another try after her "rehabilitation"?........ |
Woman proves gun effective
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:31:43 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote: On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 02:03:47 -0700, jps penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: |On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 22:44:39 -0700, "mgg" wrote: | | |"jps" wrote in message ... | On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:42:22 -0700, "Calif Bill" | wrote: |SNIP | | What are you talking about? | | Killing yourself is against the law in most states. In a few states | you can take your life if you're terminally ill. | | |OK, so the *real* problem was the suicide, not the gun...right? People kill |themselves every day, just because a gun is involved doesn't make it any |worse. It would be worse if the used the gun on someone else before |themselves. More people commit suicide by jumping off bridges, than guns. |Should we ban bridges? | |--Mike | |My point is that guns are a far more effective means of killing than |most other methods. There are a gaggle of gun advocates in this very |newsgroup who consistently argue that a knife, a screwdriver or a |pencil is just as effective at killing and I call bull****. | |This story is just one example of how effective guns are at killing |when other methods aren't nearly as deadly. You can't do equivalent |damage to someone with a knife from 10 feet as you can a gun, unless |you're a circus performer or lumberjack. The point is, she didn't do it at 10 feet.... so she obviously didn't need a gun. Most women that commit suicide do not use violent means. Why don't you champion eliminating all of the things they use? Or do you have some sort of strange gun fetish? Yes, I have a gun fetish but not of a sexual nature. The US has been stupid about controlling guns, their sale and rampant availability. Countries that control guns do not have the murder rate we do in the US. Please don't suggest we ban screwdrivers. It's a specious argument put up for simpletons. |
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On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:38:15 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote: On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 02:04:50 -0700, jps penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: |On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 22:55:55 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: | | |"jps" wrote in message ... | On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:42:22 -0700, "Calif Bill" | wrote: | | |"jps" wrote in message om... | | Tries other methods, proves gun more effective... | | SHARONVILLE - .A woman rented a handgun at an indoor shooting range, | got some instructions on how to use it and then fatally shot herself, | police said Monday. | | Police in the Cincinnati suburb of Sharonville said they believe the | woman committed suicide Sunday at Target World, a public range that | sells and rents guns and has a dozen 25-yard target shooting lanes. | | The 46-year-old woman, Ann Fukuyama, of Cincinnati, died at a local | hospital, police said. | | Sgt. Keith Schoonover said the woman reportedly had attempted suicide | before by other means and police believe she went to the target range | to kill herself. He said she rented a 9 mm handgun, learned how to use | it and then went into a target shooting lane and shot herself. | | Witnesses said she gave no indication or warning that anything was | wrong. | | Target World manager Jeff Mann said the range was operating normally | Monday, but he wouldn't discuss the woman or the shooting because of | an ongoing investigation. | | | |It is a free country. She is free to kill herself. Better than her |killing |others to get suicide via cop. | | What are you talking about? | | Killing yourself is against the law in most states. In a few states | you can take your life if you're terminally ill. | | Since you don't drink, I'm left believing you're tugging on a bong. | |Killing yourself is not against the law. Attempting to kill yourself is |against the law. but the problem is not the pistol, but problem is the |reason she wanted to kill herself. | |If there weren't such an effective means of death easily available to |her, perhaps she'd have survived long enough to address the real |problem. | |Sounds logical, eh? No, it *doesn't* sound logical... in fact, nearly all of your ramblings on guns are devoid of logic. If it is so logical, why is a suicidaly deranged woman wandering about at large in the public? It could just have easily been you with the "Deranged woman in the food mart with a knife." But that just doesn't seem logical to you, does it? It just doesn't have o-o-o-o-h-h-h-h that "gun" word! Where guns are concerned, I think logic departs you. It's strange because you're otherwise very bright. I guess one blind spot in a life isn't so bad. The point is that she had tried other means. The gun **proved** to be the most effective tool for the job. How the **** can you argue that? By installing blinders. |
Woman proves gun effective
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 06:29:17 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote: On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:23:30 -0700, jps wrote: On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:42:22 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: It is a free country. She is free to kill herself. Better than her killing others to get suicide via cop. What are you talking about? Killing yourself is against the law in most states. In a few states you can take your life if you're terminally ill. Since you don't drink, I'm left believing you're tugging on a bong. Don't know about Bill's habits, but you almost gave me an acid flashback there. A LOL prevented it. So killing yourself is against the law. What's the penalty? --Vic You're a funny man but you miss the point, which is: It's not a "free country" as Bill says. If you're caught trying to kill yourself you get arrested. Not illegally like Gates but legally. What country isn't "free" if you're successful at killing yourself? And I don't believe you ever took acid. |
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On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:28:34 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote: On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:23:30 -0700, jps penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: |Killing yourself is against the law in most states. In a few states |you can take your life if you're terminally ill. The obvious solution is to incarcerate her. After sufficient period of counseling in a penal facility, I'm sure that she won't commit the same crime..... I'm not arguing in favor of the law, just pointing out Bill's "free country" line isn't true. If you try to kill yourself and you're not successful, it's likely you'll be locked up, not in prison but in a nut house. That's the upshot of it being against the law. |
Woman proves gun effective
jps wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:28:34 -0400, Gene Kearns wrote: On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:23:30 -0700, jps penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: |Killing yourself is against the law in most states. In a few states |you can take your life if you're terminally ill. The obvious solution is to incarcerate her. After sufficient period of counseling in a penal facility, I'm sure that she won't commit the same crime..... I'm not arguing in favor of the law, just pointing out Bill's "free country" line isn't true. If you try to kill yourself and you're not successful, it's likely you'll be locked up, not in prison but in a nut house. That's the upshot of it being against the law. And if it is not a "public" nut house, you'll be overcharged $1500 to $3000 a day for the privilege. -- Whatever moral rules you have proposed, abide by them as they were laws, and as if you would be guilty of impiety by violating any of them, *unless* you are a conservative Republican office holder or minister. If that is your position in life, then anything goes. |
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Gene Kearns wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:06:19 -0700, jps penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: |On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:38:15 -0400, Gene Kearns wrote: | |On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 02:04:50 -0700, jps penned the following well |considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: | ||On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 22:55:55 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: || || ||"jps" wrote in message m... || On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:42:22 -0700, "Calif Bill" || wrote: || || ||"jps" wrote in message ||news:msku6596bnh6ghqkln52tdjkqi4lgrmka3@4ax. com... || || Tries other methods, proves gun more effective... || || SHARONVILLE - .A woman rented a handgun at an indoor shooting range, || got some instructions on how to use it and then fatally shot herself, || police said Monday. || || Police in the Cincinnati suburb of Sharonville said they believe the || woman committed suicide Sunday at Target World, a public range that || sells and rents guns and has a dozen 25-yard target shooting lanes. || || The 46-year-old woman, Ann Fukuyama, of Cincinnati, died at a local || hospital, police said. || || Sgt. Keith Schoonover said the woman reportedly had attempted suicide || before by other means and police believe she went to the target range || to kill herself. He said she rented a 9 mm handgun, learned how to use || it and then went into a target shooting lane and shot herself. || || Witnesses said she gave no indication or warning that anything was || wrong. || || Target World manager Jeff Mann said the range was operating normally || Monday, but he wouldn't discuss the woman or the shooting because of || an ongoing investigation. || || || ||It is a free country. She is free to kill herself. Better than her ||killing ||others to get suicide via cop. || || What are you talking about? || || Killing yourself is against the law in most states. In a few states || you can take your life if you're terminally ill. || || Since you don't drink, I'm left believing you're tugging on a bong. || ||Killing yourself is not against the law. Attempting to kill yourself is ||against the law. but the problem is not the pistol, but problem is the ||reason she wanted to kill herself. || ||If there weren't such an effective means of death easily available to ||her, perhaps she'd have survived long enough to address the real ||problem. || ||Sounds logical, eh? | |No, it *doesn't* sound logical... in fact, nearly all of your |ramblings on guns are devoid of logic. | |If it is so logical, why is a suicidaly deranged woman wandering about |at large in the public? It could just have easily been you with the |"Deranged woman in the food mart with a knife." | |But that just doesn't seem logical to you, does it? It just doesn't |have o-o-o-o-h-h-h-h that "gun" word! | |Where guns are concerned, I think logic departs you. | |It's strange because you're otherwise very bright. I guess one blind |spot in a life isn't so bad. | |The point is that she had tried other means. The gun **proved** to be |the most effective tool for the job. | |How the **** can you argue that? By installing blinders. No, by using logic. The gun proved nothing. She happened to choose that, for whatever reason, rather than jump off an overpass..... just as deadly, by the way, and requires NO practice whatsoever. There are some posters here who would pick the wrong overpass and have to repeat the jump, several times. -- Whatever moral rules you have proposed, abide by them as they were laws, and as if you would be guilty of impiety by violating any of them, *unless* you are a conservative Republican office holder or minister. If that is your position in life, then anything goes. |
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Gene Kearns wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:02:39 -0700, jps penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: |Countries that control guns do not have the murder rate we do in the |US. Oh..... BS. http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=4706 |Please don't suggest we ban screwdrivers. It's a specious |argument put up for simpletons. No.... it isn't. I've watched this same foolish argument in the schools. Believing that it was all about "tools" and not *intent,* the school systems banned "weapons." Now, that makes for some interesting dancing around the facts when you consider shop classes and home ec. classes. Students so inclined, though, undaunted, used the most available weapon at hand.... pens and pencils. Ban them too? Of course not, that's silly, it isn't about *what* they used it was about their *intent.* Can you say, "Circular Logic, but we'd never admit it?" In my county's schools you can't even have a PICTURE of a weapon. Our kenpo karate logo has a sword. You get sent home for wearing a shirt with the logo on it because of the sword. |
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Gene Kearns wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:06:19 -0700, jps penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: |On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:38:15 -0400, Gene Kearns wrote: | |On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 02:04:50 -0700, jps penned the following well |considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: | ||On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 22:55:55 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: || || ||"jps" wrote in message m... || On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:42:22 -0700, "Calif Bill" || wrote: || || ||"jps" wrote in message ||news:msku6596bnh6ghqkln52tdjkqi4lgrmka3@4ax. com... || || Tries other methods, proves gun more effective... || || SHARONVILLE - .A woman rented a handgun at an indoor shooting range, || got some instructions on how to use it and then fatally shot herself, || police said Monday. || || Police in the Cincinnati suburb of Sharonville said they believe the || woman committed suicide Sunday at Target World, a public range that || sells and rents guns and has a dozen 25-yard target shooting lanes. || || The 46-year-old woman, Ann Fukuyama, of Cincinnati, died at a local || hospital, police said. || || Sgt. Keith Schoonover said the woman reportedly had attempted suicide || before by other means and police believe she went to the target range || to kill herself. He said she rented a 9 mm handgun, learned how to use || it and then went into a target shooting lane and shot herself. || || Witnesses said she gave no indication or warning that anything was || wrong. || || Target World manager Jeff Mann said the range was operating normally || Monday, but he wouldn't discuss the woman or the shooting because of || an ongoing investigation. || || || ||It is a free country. She is free to kill herself. Better than her ||killing ||others to get suicide via cop. || || What are you talking about? || || Killing yourself is against the law in most states. In a few states || you can take your life if you're terminally ill. || || Since you don't drink, I'm left believing you're tugging on a bong. || ||Killing yourself is not against the law. Attempting to kill yourself is ||against the law. but the problem is not the pistol, but problem is the ||reason she wanted to kill herself. || ||If there weren't such an effective means of death easily available to ||her, perhaps she'd have survived long enough to address the real ||problem. || ||Sounds logical, eh? | |No, it *doesn't* sound logical... in fact, nearly all of your |ramblings on guns are devoid of logic. | |If it is so logical, why is a suicidaly deranged woman wandering about |at large in the public? It could just have easily been you with the |"Deranged woman in the food mart with a knife." | |But that just doesn't seem logical to you, does it? It just doesn't |have o-o-o-o-h-h-h-h that "gun" word! | |Where guns are concerned, I think logic departs you. | |It's strange because you're otherwise very bright. I guess one blind |spot in a life isn't so bad. | |The point is that she had tried other means. The gun **proved** to be |the most effective tool for the job. | |How the **** can you argue that? By installing blinders. No, by using logic. The gun proved nothing. She happened to choose that, for whatever reason, rather than jump off an overpass..... just as deadly, by the way, and requires NO practice whatsoever. Hey, stop using logic! Instead, just bluster and be as vulgar and insulting as possible. That's how some here do it! |
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On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:50:14 -0400, H the K
wrote: Gene Kearns wrote: On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:06:19 -0700, jps penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: |On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:38:15 -0400, Gene Kearns wrote: | |On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 02:04:50 -0700, jps penned the following well |considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: | ||On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 22:55:55 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: || || ||"jps" wrote in message m... || On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:42:22 -0700, "Calif Bill" || wrote: || || ||"jps" wrote in message ||news:msku6596bnh6ghqkln52tdjkqi4lgrmka3@4ax. com... || || Tries other methods, proves gun more effective... || || SHARONVILLE - .A woman rented a handgun at an indoor shooting range, || got some instructions on how to use it and then fatally shot herself, || police said Monday. || || Police in the Cincinnati suburb of Sharonville said they believe the || woman committed suicide Sunday at Target World, a public range that || sells and rents guns and has a dozen 25-yard target shooting lanes. || || The 46-year-old woman, Ann Fukuyama, of Cincinnati, died at a local || hospital, police said. || || Sgt. Keith Schoonover said the woman reportedly had attempted suicide || before by other means and police believe she went to the target range || to kill herself. He said she rented a 9 mm handgun, learned how to use || it and then went into a target shooting lane and shot herself. || || Witnesses said she gave no indication or warning that anything was || wrong. || || Target World manager Jeff Mann said the range was operating normally || Monday, but he wouldn't discuss the woman or the shooting because of || an ongoing investigation. || || || ||It is a free country. She is free to kill herself. Better than her ||killing ||others to get suicide via cop. || || What are you talking about? || || Killing yourself is against the law in most states. In a few states || you can take your life if you're terminally ill. || || Since you don't drink, I'm left believing you're tugging on a bong. || ||Killing yourself is not against the law. Attempting to kill yourself is ||against the law. but the problem is not the pistol, but problem is the ||reason she wanted to kill herself. || ||If there weren't such an effective means of death easily available to ||her, perhaps she'd have survived long enough to address the real ||problem. || ||Sounds logical, eh? | |No, it *doesn't* sound logical... in fact, nearly all of your |ramblings on guns are devoid of logic. | |If it is so logical, why is a suicidaly deranged woman wandering about |at large in the public? It could just have easily been you with the |"Deranged woman in the food mart with a knife." | |But that just doesn't seem logical to you, does it? It just doesn't |have o-o-o-o-h-h-h-h that "gun" word! | |Where guns are concerned, I think logic departs you. | |It's strange because you're otherwise very bright. I guess one blind |spot in a life isn't so bad. | |The point is that she had tried other means. The gun **proved** to be |the most effective tool for the job. | |How the **** can you argue that? By installing blinders. No, by using logic. The gun proved nothing. She happened to choose that, for whatever reason, rather than jump off an overpass..... just as deadly, by the way, and requires NO practice whatsoever. There are some posters here who would pick the wrong overpass and have to repeat the jump, several times. Not to mention it's a hell of a lot easier to hold a gun to your head and pull the trigger than to stand on a bridge and jump. More funky logic from the gun lobby. |
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On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:05:48 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote: On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:14:59 -0700, jps penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: |On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:28:34 -0400, Gene Kearns wrote: | |On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:23:30 -0700, jps penned the following well |considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: | ||Killing yourself is against the law in most states. In a few states ||you can take your life if you're terminally ill. | |The obvious solution is to incarcerate her. After sufficient period of |counseling in a penal facility, I'm sure that she won't commit the |same crime..... | |I'm not arguing in favor of the law, just pointing out Bill's "free |country" line isn't true. | |If you try to kill yourself and you're not successful, it's likely |you'll be locked up, not in prison but in a nut house. | |That's the upshot of it being against the law. Your whole premiss is that passing a law is going to stop people from violating that law. Sort of like, if we pass a law against bank robbery, people won't rob banks. How many times does the fallacy of that position have to be proved? Well then, why not **** in public everywhere? Why the hell should you be able to stop me from buying a bazooka or a stinger missle if that's what I deem necessary to protect my family and property. It's my business how I handle it and none of your business whether I'm mentally stable enough to be responsible, until I kill someone with it. Bloody idiotic. Blinders Gene. |
Woman proves gun effective
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:11:30 -0700, jps wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 06:29:17 -0500, Vic Smith wrote: On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:23:30 -0700, jps wrote: On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:42:22 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: It is a free country. She is free to kill herself. Better than her killing others to get suicide via cop. What are you talking about? Killing yourself is against the law in most states. In a few states you can take your life if you're terminally ill. Since you don't drink, I'm left believing you're tugging on a bong. Don't know about Bill's habits, but you almost gave me an acid flashback there. A LOL prevented it. So killing yourself is against the law. What's the penalty? --Vic You're a funny man but you miss the point, which is: It's not a "free country" as Bill says. If you're caught trying to kill yourself you get arrested. Not illegally like Gates but legally. I guess I missed the point, since I still don't get. What country isn't "free" if you're successful at killing yourself? Okay, I guess you took issue with the "it's a free country" part. That's just a common figure of speech. And I don't believe you ever took acid. Don't know whether that's an insult or compliment. But it doesn't matter either way. As long as you call me Mister Sunshine. --Vic |
Woman proves gun effective
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:47:51 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote: On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:11:30 -0700, jps wrote: On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 06:29:17 -0500, Vic Smith wrote: On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:23:30 -0700, jps wrote: On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:42:22 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: It is a free country. She is free to kill herself. Better than her killing others to get suicide via cop. What are you talking about? Killing yourself is against the law in most states. In a few states you can take your life if you're terminally ill. Since you don't drink, I'm left believing you're tugging on a bong. Don't know about Bill's habits, but you almost gave me an acid flashback there. A LOL prevented it. So killing yourself is against the law. What's the penalty? --Vic You're a funny man but you miss the point, which is: It's not a "free country" as Bill says. If you're caught trying to kill yourself you get arrested. Not illegally like Gates but legally. I guess I missed the point, since I still don't get. What country isn't "free" if you're successful at killing yourself? Okay, I guess you took issue with the "it's a free country" part. That's just a common figure of speech. And I don't believe you ever took acid. Don't know whether that's an insult or compliment. But it doesn't matter either way. As long as you call me Mister Sunshine. --Vic People who have taken acid are a hell of a lot more likely to understand the power of the brain than those who haven't. |
Woman proves gun effective
jps wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:50:14 -0400, H the K wrote: Gene Kearns wrote: On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:06:19 -0700, jps penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: |On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:38:15 -0400, Gene Kearns wrote: | |On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 02:04:50 -0700, jps penned the following well |considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: | ||On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 22:55:55 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: || || ||"jps" wrote in message m... || On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:42:22 -0700, "Calif Bill" || wrote: || || ||"jps" wrote in message ||news:msku6596bnh6ghqkln52tdjkqi4lgrmka3@4ax. com... || || Tries other methods, proves gun more effective... || || SHARONVILLE - .A woman rented a handgun at an indoor shooting range, || got some instructions on how to use it and then fatally shot herself, || police said Monday. || || Police in the Cincinnati suburb of Sharonville said they believe the || woman committed suicide Sunday at Target World, a public range that || sells and rents guns and has a dozen 25-yard target shooting lanes. || || The 46-year-old woman, Ann Fukuyama, of Cincinnati, died at a local || hospital, police said. || || Sgt. Keith Schoonover said the woman reportedly had attempted suicide || before by other means and police believe she went to the target range || to kill herself. He said she rented a 9 mm handgun, learned how to use || it and then went into a target shooting lane and shot herself. || || Witnesses said she gave no indication or warning that anything was || wrong. || || Target World manager Jeff Mann said the range was operating normally || Monday, but he wouldn't discuss the woman or the shooting because of || an ongoing investigation. || || || ||It is a free country. She is free to kill herself. Better than her ||killing ||others to get suicide via cop. || || What are you talking about? || || Killing yourself is against the law in most states. In a few states || you can take your life if you're terminally ill. || || Since you don't drink, I'm left believing you're tugging on a bong. || ||Killing yourself is not against the law. Attempting to kill yourself is ||against the law. but the problem is not the pistol, but problem is the ||reason she wanted to kill herself. || ||If there weren't such an effective means of death easily available to ||her, perhaps she'd have survived long enough to address the real ||problem. || ||Sounds logical, eh? | |No, it *doesn't* sound logical... in fact, nearly all of your |ramblings on guns are devoid of logic. | |If it is so logical, why is a suicidaly deranged woman wandering about |at large in the public? It could just have easily been you with the |"Deranged woman in the food mart with a knife." | |But that just doesn't seem logical to you, does it? It just doesn't |have o-o-o-o-h-h-h-h that "gun" word! | |Where guns are concerned, I think logic departs you. | |It's strange because you're otherwise very bright. I guess one blind |spot in a life isn't so bad. | |The point is that she had tried other means. The gun **proved** to be |the most effective tool for the job. | |How the **** can you argue that? By installing blinders. No, by using logic. The gun proved nothing. She happened to choose that, for whatever reason, rather than jump off an overpass..... just as deadly, by the way, and requires NO practice whatsoever. There are some posters here who would pick the wrong overpass and have to repeat the jump, several times. Not to mention it's a hell of a lot easier to hold a gun to your head and pull the trigger than to stand on a bridge and jump. More funky logic from the gun lobby. JPS, You forget Harry is rec.boats local Gun Nut. -- Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. This Newsgroup post is a natural product. The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to be considered flaws or defects |
Woman proves gun effective
jps wrote:
People who have taken acid are a hell of a lot more likely to understand the power of the brain than those who haven't. LOL, yeah right. -- Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. This Newsgroup post is a natural product. The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to be considered flaws or defects |
Woman proves gun effective
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 10:41:20 -0700, jps wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:50:14 -0400, H the K wrote: Gene Kearns wrote: On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:06:19 -0700, jps penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: |On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:38:15 -0400, Gene Kearns wrote: | |On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 02:04:50 -0700, jps penned the following well |considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: | ||On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 22:55:55 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: || || ||"jps" wrote in message m... || On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:42:22 -0700, "Calif Bill" || wrote: || || ||"jps" wrote in message ||news:msku6596bnh6ghqkln52tdjkqi4lgrmka3@4ax. com... || || Tries other methods, proves gun more effective... || || SHARONVILLE - .A woman rented a handgun at an indoor shooting range, || got some instructions on how to use it and then fatally shot herself, || police said Monday. || || Police in the Cincinnati suburb of Sharonville said they believe the || woman committed suicide Sunday at Target World, a public range that || sells and rents guns and has a dozen 25-yard target shooting lanes. || || The 46-year-old woman, Ann Fukuyama, of Cincinnati, died at a local || hospital, police said. || || Sgt. Keith Schoonover said the woman reportedly had attempted suicide || before by other means and police believe she went to the target range || to kill herself. He said she rented a 9 mm handgun, learned how to use || it and then went into a target shooting lane and shot herself. || || Witnesses said she gave no indication or warning that anything was || wrong. || || Target World manager Jeff Mann said the range was operating normally || Monday, but he wouldn't discuss the woman or the shooting because of || an ongoing investigation. || || || ||It is a free country. She is free to kill herself. Better than her ||killing ||others to get suicide via cop. || || What are you talking about? || || Killing yourself is against the law in most states. In a few states || you can take your life if you're terminally ill. || || Since you don't drink, I'm left believing you're tugging on a bong. || ||Killing yourself is not against the law. Attempting to kill yourself is ||against the law. but the problem is not the pistol, but problem is the ||reason she wanted to kill herself. || ||If there weren't such an effective means of death easily available to ||her, perhaps she'd have survived long enough to address the real ||problem. || ||Sounds logical, eh? | |No, it *doesn't* sound logical... in fact, nearly all of your |ramblings on guns are devoid of logic. | |If it is so logical, why is a suicidaly deranged woman wandering about |at large in the public? It could just have easily been you with the |"Deranged woman in the food mart with a knife." | |But that just doesn't seem logical to you, does it? It just doesn't |have o-o-o-o-h-h-h-h that "gun" word! | |Where guns are concerned, I think logic departs you. | |It's strange because you're otherwise very bright. I guess one blind |spot in a life isn't so bad. | |The point is that she had tried other means. The gun **proved** to be |the most effective tool for the job. | |How the **** can you argue that? By installing blinders. No, by using logic. The gun proved nothing. She happened to choose that, for whatever reason, rather than jump off an overpass..... just as deadly, by the way, and requires NO practice whatsoever. There are some posters here who would pick the wrong overpass and have to repeat the jump, several times. Not to mention it's a hell of a lot easier to hold a gun to your head and pull the trigger than to stand on a bridge and jump. More funky logic from the gun lobby. Would you happen any posthumous critique of technique for Sylvia Plath? How 'bout James Jones? Or Abe Biggs? -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
Woman proves gun effective
"jps" wrote in message ... On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 22:55:55 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: "jps" wrote in message . .. On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:42:22 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: "jps" wrote in message m... Tries other methods, proves gun more effective... SHARONVILLE - .A woman rented a handgun at an indoor shooting range, got some instructions on how to use it and then fatally shot herself, police said Monday. Police in the Cincinnati suburb of Sharonville said they believe the woman committed suicide Sunday at Target World, a public range that sells and rents guns and has a dozen 25-yard target shooting lanes. The 46-year-old woman, Ann Fukuyama, of Cincinnati, died at a local hospital, police said. Sgt. Keith Schoonover said the woman reportedly had attempted suicide before by other means and police believe she went to the target range to kill herself. He said she rented a 9 mm handgun, learned how to use it and then went into a target shooting lane and shot herself. Witnesses said she gave no indication or warning that anything was wrong. Target World manager Jeff Mann said the range was operating normally Monday, but he wouldn't discuss the woman or the shooting because of an ongoing investigation. It is a free country. She is free to kill herself. Better than her killing others to get suicide via cop. What are you talking about? Killing yourself is against the law in most states. In a few states you can take your life if you're terminally ill. Since you don't drink, I'm left believing you're tugging on a bong. Killing yourself is not against the law. Attempting to kill yourself is against the law. but the problem is not the pistol, but problem is the reason she wanted to kill herself. If there weren't such an effective means of death easily available to her, perhaps she'd have survived long enough to address the real problem. Sounds logical, eh? Nope. Most suicides have tried before. They are talking millions to build a suicide barrier on the Golden Gate Bridge. Will that stop suicides? Maybe at the bridge, but not anywhere else. Maybe they should make a diving board, so the body does not hit a boat passing under the bridge (has happened), and save a lot of money spent searching for the body. You go through psycho counseling and get a ticket to the board. |
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Woman proves gun effective
"jps" wrote in message ... On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:50:14 -0400, H the K wrote: Gene Kearns wrote: On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:06:19 -0700, jps penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: |On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:38:15 -0400, Gene Kearns wrote: | |On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 02:04:50 -0700, jps penned the following well |considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: | ||On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 22:55:55 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: || || ||"jps" wrote in message m... || On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:42:22 -0700, "Calif Bill" || wrote: || || ||"jps" wrote in message ||news:msku6596bnh6ghqkln52tdjkqi4lgrmka3@4ax. com... || || Tries other methods, proves gun more effective... || || SHARONVILLE - .A woman rented a handgun at an indoor shooting range, || got some instructions on how to use it and then fatally shot herself, || police said Monday. || || Police in the Cincinnati suburb of Sharonville said they believe the || woman committed suicide Sunday at Target World, a public range that || sells and rents guns and has a dozen 25-yard target shooting lanes. || || The 46-year-old woman, Ann Fukuyama, of Cincinnati, died at a local || hospital, police said. || || Sgt. Keith Schoonover said the woman reportedly had attempted suicide || before by other means and police believe she went to the target range || to kill herself. He said she rented a 9 mm handgun, learned how to use || it and then went into a target shooting lane and shot herself. || || Witnesses said she gave no indication or warning that anything was || wrong. || || Target World manager Jeff Mann said the range was operating normally || Monday, but he wouldn't discuss the woman or the shooting because of || an ongoing investigation. || || || ||It is a free country. She is free to kill herself. Better than her ||killing ||others to get suicide via cop. || || What are you talking about? || || Killing yourself is against the law in most states. In a few states || you can take your life if you're terminally ill. || || Since you don't drink, I'm left believing you're tugging on a bong. || ||Killing yourself is not against the law. Attempting to kill yourself is ||against the law. but the problem is not the pistol, but problem is the ||reason she wanted to kill herself. || ||If there weren't such an effective means of death easily available to ||her, perhaps she'd have survived long enough to address the real ||problem. || ||Sounds logical, eh? | |No, it *doesn't* sound logical... in fact, nearly all of your |ramblings on guns are devoid of logic. | |If it is so logical, why is a suicidaly deranged woman wandering about |at large in the public? It could just have easily been you with the |"Deranged woman in the food mart with a knife." | |But that just doesn't seem logical to you, does it? It just doesn't |have o-o-o-o-h-h-h-h that "gun" word! | |Where guns are concerned, I think logic departs you. | |It's strange because you're otherwise very bright. I guess one blind |spot in a life isn't so bad. | |The point is that she had tried other means. The gun **proved** to be |the most effective tool for the job. | |How the **** can you argue that? By installing blinders. No, by using logic. The gun proved nothing. She happened to choose that, for whatever reason, rather than jump off an overpass..... just as deadly, by the way, and requires NO practice whatsoever. There are some posters here who would pick the wrong overpass and have to repeat the jump, several times. Not to mention it's a hell of a lot easier to hold a gun to your head and pull the trigger than to stand on a bridge and jump. More funky logic from the gun lobby. The gun at least only killed her. Jumping off a building, has killed passerby's. About 15 years ago, guy jumped off one of the local overpasses in to the front of a school bus. Bus taking the kids to Great America Amusement park for an end of year bash. Sure screwed up the day and the minds of those kids. |
Woman proves gun effective
"jps" wrote in message ... On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:47:51 -0500, Vic Smith wrote: On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:11:30 -0700, jps wrote: On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 06:29:17 -0500, Vic Smith wrote: On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:23:30 -0700, jps wrote: On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:42:22 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: It is a free country. She is free to kill herself. Better than her killing others to get suicide via cop. What are you talking about? Killing yourself is against the law in most states. In a few states you can take your life if you're terminally ill. Since you don't drink, I'm left believing you're tugging on a bong. Don't know about Bill's habits, but you almost gave me an acid flashback there. A LOL prevented it. So killing yourself is against the law. What's the penalty? --Vic You're a funny man but you miss the point, which is: It's not a "free country" as Bill says. If you're caught trying to kill yourself you get arrested. Not illegally like Gates but legally. I guess I missed the point, since I still don't get. What country isn't "free" if you're successful at killing yourself? Okay, I guess you took issue with the "it's a free country" part. That's just a common figure of speech. And I don't believe you ever took acid. Don't know whether that's an insult or compliment. But it doesn't matter either way. As long as you call me Mister Sunshine. --Vic People who have taken acid are a hell of a lot more likely to understand the power of the brain than those who haven't. LOL! |
Woman proves gun effective
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:45:11 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote: On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:02:39 -0700, jps penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: |Countries that control guns do not have the murder rate we do in the |US. Oh..... BS. http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=4706 |Please don't suggest we ban screwdrivers. It's a specious |argument put up for simpletons. No.... it isn't. I've watched this same foolish argument in the schools. Believing that it was all about "tools" and not *intent,* the school systems banned "weapons." Now, that makes for some interesting dancing around the facts when you consider shop classes and home ec. classes. Students so inclined, though, undaunted, used the most available weapon at hand.... pens and pencils. Ban them too? Of course not, that's silly, it isn't about *what* they used it was about their *intent.* Can you say, "Circular Logic, but we'd never admit it?" Please describe to me how you mortally wound a person from 10 feet away with a pencil, knife, spoon, screwdriver, etc. I know you can miss from 10 feet with a gun too but the odds are a ****load better the gun is going to have more effect than any of the above. |
Woman proves gun effective
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:49:42 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote: "jps" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:47:51 -0500, Vic Smith wrote: On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:11:30 -0700, jps wrote: On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 06:29:17 -0500, Vic Smith wrote: On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:23:30 -0700, jps wrote: On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:42:22 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: It is a free country. She is free to kill herself. Better than her killing others to get suicide via cop. What are you talking about? Killing yourself is against the law in most states. In a few states you can take your life if you're terminally ill. Since you don't drink, I'm left believing you're tugging on a bong. Don't know about Bill's habits, but you almost gave me an acid flashback there. A LOL prevented it. So killing yourself is against the law. What's the penalty? --Vic You're a funny man but you miss the point, which is: It's not a "free country" as Bill says. If you're caught trying to kill yourself you get arrested. Not illegally like Gates but legally. I guess I missed the point, since I still don't get. What country isn't "free" if you're successful at killing yourself? Okay, I guess you took issue with the "it's a free country" part. That's just a common figure of speech. And I don't believe you ever took acid. Don't know whether that's an insult or compliment. But it doesn't matter either way. As long as you call me Mister Sunshine. --Vic People who have taken acid are a hell of a lot more likely to understand the power of the brain than those who haven't. LOL! Uh oh. Vic, I think we've got at least two Mr. Sunshine's posting at rec.boats. I'm commenting from articles I've read, of course. |
Woman proves gun effective
"jps" wrote in message ... On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:49:42 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: "jps" wrote in message . .. On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:47:51 -0500, Vic Smith wrote: On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:11:30 -0700, jps wrote: On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 06:29:17 -0500, Vic Smith wrote: On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:23:30 -0700, jps wrote: On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:42:22 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: It is a free country. She is free to kill herself. Better than her killing others to get suicide via cop. What are you talking about? Killing yourself is against the law in most states. In a few states you can take your life if you're terminally ill. Since you don't drink, I'm left believing you're tugging on a bong. Don't know about Bill's habits, but you almost gave me an acid flashback there. A LOL prevented it. So killing yourself is against the law. What's the penalty? --Vic You're a funny man but you miss the point, which is: It's not a "free country" as Bill says. If you're caught trying to kill yourself you get arrested. Not illegally like Gates but legally. I guess I missed the point, since I still don't get. What country isn't "free" if you're successful at killing yourself? Okay, I guess you took issue with the "it's a free country" part. That's just a common figure of speech. And I don't believe you ever took acid. Don't know whether that's an insult or compliment. But it doesn't matter either way. As long as you call me Mister Sunshine. --Vic People who have taken acid are a hell of a lot more likely to understand the power of the brain than those who haven't. LOL! Uh oh. Vic, I think we've got at least two Mr. Sunshine's posting at rec.boats. I'm commenting from articles I've read, of course. My aquaintances who injested LSD, do not seem to be any smarter about brain function than anyone else. A couple are totally screwed up. |
Woman proves gun effective
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:00:56 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote: "jps" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:49:42 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: "jps" wrote in message ... On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:47:51 -0500, Vic Smith wrote: On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:11:30 -0700, jps wrote: On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 06:29:17 -0500, Vic Smith wrote: On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:23:30 -0700, jps wrote: On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:42:22 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: It is a free country. She is free to kill herself. Better than her killing others to get suicide via cop. What are you talking about? Killing yourself is against the law in most states. In a few states you can take your life if you're terminally ill. Since you don't drink, I'm left believing you're tugging on a bong. Don't know about Bill's habits, but you almost gave me an acid flashback there. A LOL prevented it. So killing yourself is against the law. What's the penalty? --Vic You're a funny man but you miss the point, which is: It's not a "free country" as Bill says. If you're caught trying to kill yourself you get arrested. Not illegally like Gates but legally. I guess I missed the point, since I still don't get. What country isn't "free" if you're successful at killing yourself? Okay, I guess you took issue with the "it's a free country" part. That's just a common figure of speech. And I don't believe you ever took acid. Don't know whether that's an insult or compliment. But it doesn't matter either way. As long as you call me Mister Sunshine. --Vic People who have taken acid are a hell of a lot more likely to understand the power of the brain than those who haven't. LOL! Uh oh. Vic, I think we've got at least two Mr. Sunshine's posting at rec.boats. I'm commenting from articles I've read, of course. My aquaintances who injested LSD, do not seem to be any smarter about brain function than anyone else. A couple are totally screwed up. But they're a hell of lot more aware of what realities a brain can manufacture when its chemistry is altered. |
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"jps" wrote in message ... On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:00:56 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: "jps" wrote in message . .. On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:49:42 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: "jps" wrote in message m... On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:47:51 -0500, Vic Smith wrote: On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:11:30 -0700, jps wrote: On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 06:29:17 -0500, Vic Smith wrote: On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:23:30 -0700, jps wrote: On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:42:22 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: It is a free country. She is free to kill herself. Better than her killing others to get suicide via cop. What are you talking about? Killing yourself is against the law in most states. In a few states you can take your life if you're terminally ill. Since you don't drink, I'm left believing you're tugging on a bong. Don't know about Bill's habits, but you almost gave me an acid flashback there. A LOL prevented it. So killing yourself is against the law. What's the penalty? --Vic You're a funny man but you miss the point, which is: It's not a "free country" as Bill says. If you're caught trying to kill yourself you get arrested. Not illegally like Gates but legally. I guess I missed the point, since I still don't get. What country isn't "free" if you're successful at killing yourself? Okay, I guess you took issue with the "it's a free country" part. That's just a common figure of speech. And I don't believe you ever took acid. Don't know whether that's an insult or compliment. But it doesn't matter either way. As long as you call me Mister Sunshine. --Vic People who have taken acid are a hell of a lot more likely to understand the power of the brain than those who haven't. LOL! Uh oh. Vic, I think we've got at least two Mr. Sunshine's posting at rec.boats. I'm commenting from articles I've read, of course. My aquaintances who injested LSD, do not seem to be any smarter about brain function than anyone else. A couple are totally screwed up. But they're a hell of lot more aware of what realities a brain can manufacture when its chemistry is altered. Maybe they do, and maybe they do not remember. Which is your situation? |
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On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:33:56 -0700, jps wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:47:09 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:31:14 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 10:41:20 -0700, jps wrote: On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:50:14 -0400, H the K wrote: Gene Kearns wrote: snipped for brevity No, by using logic. The gun proved nothing. She happened to choose that, for whatever reason, rather than jump off an overpass..... just as deadly, by the way, and requires NO practice whatsoever. There are some posters here who would pick the wrong overpass and have to repeat the jump, several times. Not to mention it's a hell of a lot easier to hold a gun to your head and pull the trigger than to stand on a bridge and jump. More funky logic from the gun lobby. Would you happen any posthumous critique of technique for Sylvia Plath? How 'bout James Jones? Or Abe Biggs? Correction: Would you happen to have any posthumous critique of technique for Sylvia Plath? How 'bout James Jones? Or Abe Biggs? You require correction? I thought you got everything right the first time. Would you like your posthumous critique of technique concurrently, asynchronously, or at the tip of broomstick delivered by NY City's finest? Actually, I was looking for anything that might come close to a refutation. My expectations have been to high, as modest as they were to start. -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
Woman proves gun effective
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:24:30 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote: "jps" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:00:56 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: "jps" wrote in message ... On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:49:42 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: "jps" wrote in message om... On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:47:51 -0500, Vic Smith wrote: On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:11:30 -0700, jps wrote: On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 06:29:17 -0500, Vic Smith wrote: On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:23:30 -0700, jps wrote: On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:42:22 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: It is a free country. She is free to kill herself. Better than her killing others to get suicide via cop. What are you talking about? Killing yourself is against the law in most states. In a few states you can take your life if you're terminally ill. Since you don't drink, I'm left believing you're tugging on a bong. Don't know about Bill's habits, but you almost gave me an acid flashback there. A LOL prevented it. So killing yourself is against the law. What's the penalty? --Vic You're a funny man but you miss the point, which is: It's not a "free country" as Bill says. If you're caught trying to kill yourself you get arrested. Not illegally like Gates but legally. I guess I missed the point, since I still don't get. What country isn't "free" if you're successful at killing yourself? Okay, I guess you took issue with the "it's a free country" part. That's just a common figure of speech. And I don't believe you ever took acid. Don't know whether that's an insult or compliment. But it doesn't matter either way. As long as you call me Mister Sunshine. --Vic People who have taken acid are a hell of a lot more likely to understand the power of the brain than those who haven't. LOL! Uh oh. Vic, I think we've got at least two Mr. Sunshine's posting at rec.boats. I'm commenting from articles I've read, of course. My aquaintances who injested LSD, do not seem to be any smarter about brain function than anyone else. A couple are totally screwed up. But they're a hell of lot more aware of what realities a brain can manufacture when its chemistry is altered. Maybe they do, and maybe they do not remember. Which is your situation? You don't know them very well. I remember everything. |
Woman proves gun effective
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:34:16 -0500, wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:33:56 -0700, jps wrote: On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:47:09 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:31:14 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 10:41:20 -0700, jps wrote: On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:50:14 -0400, H the K wrote: Gene Kearns wrote: snipped for brevity No, by using logic. The gun proved nothing. She happened to choose that, for whatever reason, rather than jump off an overpass..... just as deadly, by the way, and requires NO practice whatsoever. There are some posters here who would pick the wrong overpass and have to repeat the jump, several times. Not to mention it's a hell of a lot easier to hold a gun to your head and pull the trigger than to stand on a bridge and jump. More funky logic from the gun lobby. Would you happen any posthumous critique of technique for Sylvia Plath? How 'bout James Jones? Or Abe Biggs? Correction: Would you happen to have any posthumous critique of technique for Sylvia Plath? How 'bout James Jones? Or Abe Biggs? You require correction? I thought you got everything right the first time. Would you like your posthumous critique of technique concurrently, asynchronously, or at the tip of broomstick delivered by NY City's finest? Actually, I was looking for anything that might come close to a refutation. My expectations have been to high, as modest as they were to start. I thought you were looking for a posthumous critique of techniques. Isadora Duncan is a better analogy. Similar to how many find their lives ended by guns, inadvertently and in error. |
Woman proves gun effective
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