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On Mar 24, 10:51 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
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On Mar 24, 6:15 am, "Mr. Jim" wrote:

Subject: Fw: Goodbye America

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Professor Joseph Olson of Hemline University School of Law, St. Paul
, Minnesota , points out some interesting facts concerning the 2008
Presidential election:

* Number of States won by: Democrats: 19 Republicans: 29
* Square miles of land won by: Democrats: 580,000 Republicans:
2,427,000
* Population of counties won by: Democrats: 127 million
Republicans: 143 million
* Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by: Democrats:
13.2 Republicans: 2.1

land doesn't vote. nor do states. only people vote. so the stats are
irrelevant.



Professor Olson adds: "In aggregate, the map of the territory
Republicans won was mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens of
the country. Democrat territory mostly encompassed those citizens living
in government-owned tenements and living off various forms of government
welfare..."

not quite. the states won by the GOP were those where abortion,
divorce and teen pregnancy is rampant. IOW where people don't practice
what they preach. and they are states where people get more from the
govt than they pay in taxes.

If Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to twenty million criminal
invaders called illegals and they vote, then we can say goodbye to the
USA in fewer than five years. If you are in favor of this, then by
all means, delete this message.

this is the problem with conservatives: they want to deny citizenship
to hard working people and give it to the chairman of AIG and lehman
bros.

People do not vote for the President.

you missed the point, didn't you. he tried to insinuate that more
PEOPLE voted for mccain than voted for obama. that is not true.

States vote for the President. Did
you sleep during Civics class?

states do not vote. electors in the electoral college vote. did you
sleep during civics class?


How a state picks their Electors is up to
the state. Just happens that now all states have elections to pick the
Electoral slate. And most states do not require the Electors to actually
vote for the person picked by their electors. California, they only have
to
vote for the chosen candidate on the first ballot. So if a tie on the
first
ballot, the Electoral College could vote for someone not even on the
ballot.

which is completely irrelevant to the post.

and your point about 'states' voting is wrong. electors vote. not
state.


True, but the state picks the Electors and tells them who to vote for. At
least on the first ballot.

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On Mar 25, 4:01 am, "Calif Bill" wrote:
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Calif Bill wrote:
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On Mar 24, 6:15 am, "Mr. Jim" wrote:
Subject: Fw: Goodbye America

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Professor Joseph Olson of Hemline University School of Law, St. Paul
, Minnesota , points out some interesting facts concerning the 2008
Presidential election:

* Number of States won by: Democrats: 19 Republicans: 29
* Square miles of land won by: Democrats: 580,000 Republicans:
2,427,000
* Population of counties won by: Democrats: 127 million
Republicans: 143 million
* Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by: Democrats:
13.2 Republicans: 2.1

land doesn't vote. nor do states. only people vote. so the stats are
irrelevant.

Professor Olson adds: "In aggregate, the map of the territory
Republicans won was mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens of
the country. Democrat territory mostly encompassed those citizens
living
in government-owned tenements and living off various forms of
government
welfare..."

not quite. the states won by the GOP were those where abortion,
divorce and teen pregnancy is rampant. IOW where people don't practice
what they preach. and they are states where people get more from the
govt than they pay in taxes.

If Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to twenty million criminal
invaders called illegals and they vote, then we can say goodbye to the
USA in fewer than five years. If you are in favor of this, then by
all means, delete this message.

this is the problem with conservatives: they want to deny citizenship
to hard working people and give it to the chairman of AIG and lehman
bros.

People do not vote for the President. States vote for the President.
Did you sleep during Civics class? How a state picks their Electors is
up to the state. Just happens that now all states have elections to
pick
the Electoral slate. And most states do not require the Electors to
actually vote for the person picked by their electors. California, they
only have to vote for the chosen candidate on the first ballot. So if a
tie on the first ballot, the Electoral College could vote for someone
not
even on the ballot.

Jesus, Bill, is that the latest right wing wet dream, that since the
"conservatives" will not win the presidential election in 2012 (with
who?
Sarah Palin, Bobby Jindal?), the best hope is to subvert the electoral
college?

You need to expand your horizons beyond Faux News and World Nutcase
Daily.
The Onion is more reliable and accurate than either Faux or WND.

If my wet dream as you state was to subvert the Electoral College, it
would
not be for either a Dem or Repub. I would shake up the status qup. You
must have slept though Civics also. Just pointing out the People do not
get
to vote for the President.-

nor do counties.

you need a few dozen civics classes yourself.

WTF? Where did counties come in?

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On Mar 25, 4:01 am, "Calif Bill" wrote:
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Calif Bill wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message
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On Mar 24, 6:15 am, "Mr. Jim" wrote:
Subject: Fw: Goodbye America

?
Professor Joseph Olson of Hemline University School of Law, St. Paul
, Minnesota , points out some interesting facts concerning the 2008
Presidential election:

* Number of States won by: Democrats: 19 Republicans: 29
* Square miles of land won by: Democrats: 580,000 Republicans:
2,427,000
* Population of counties won by: Democrats: 127 million
Republicans: 143 million
* Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by: Democrats:
13.2 Republicans: 2.1

land doesn't vote. nor do states. only people vote. so the stats are
irrelevant.

Professor Olson adds: "In aggregate, the map of the territory
Republicans won was mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens
of
the country. Democrat territory mostly encompassed those citizens
living
in government-owned tenements and living off various forms of
government
welfare..."

not quite. the states won by the GOP were those where abortion,
divorce and teen pregnancy is rampant. IOW where people don't practice
what they preach. and they are states where people get more from the
govt than they pay in taxes.

If Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to twenty million criminal
invaders called illegals and they vote, then we can say goodbye to
the
USA in fewer than five years. If you are in favor of this, then by
all means, delete this message.

this is the problem with conservatives: they want to deny citizenship
to hard working people and give it to the chairman of AIG and lehman
bros.

People do not vote for the President. States vote for the President.
Did you sleep during Civics class? How a state picks their Electors is
up to the state. Just happens that now all states have elections to
pick
the Electoral slate. And most states do not require the Electors to
actually vote for the person picked by their electors. California,
they
only have to vote for the chosen candidate on the first ballot. So if
a
tie on the first ballot, the Electoral College could vote for someone
not
even on the ballot.

Jesus, Bill, is that the latest right wing wet dream, that since the
"conservatives" will not win the presidential election in 2012 (with
who?
Sarah Palin, Bobby Jindal?), the best hope is to subvert the electoral
college?

You need to expand your horizons beyond Faux News and World Nutcase
Daily.
The Onion is more reliable and accurate than either Faux or WND.

If my wet dream as you state was to subvert the Electoral College, it
would
not be for either a Dem or Repub. I would shake up the status qup. You
must have slept though Civics also. Just pointing out the People do not
get
to vote for the President.-

nor do counties.

you need a few dozen civics classes yourself.

WTF? Where did counties come in?


Bill, why do you even bother?

--Mike

On Mar 25, 7:49*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
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Calif Bill wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message
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On Mar 24, 6:15 am, "Mr. Jim" wrote:
Subject: Fw: Goodbye America

?
Professor Joseph Olson of Hemline University School of Law, St. Paul
, Minnesota , points out some interesting facts concerning the 2008
Presidential election:

* Number of States won by: Democrats: 19 Republicans: 29
* Square miles of land won by: Democrats: 580,000 Republicans:
2,427,000
* Population of counties won by: Democrats: 127 million
Republicans: 143 million
* Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by: Democrats:
13.2 Republicans: 2.1

land doesn't vote. nor do states. only people vote. so the stats are
irrelevant.

Professor Olson adds: "In aggregate, the map of the territory
Republicans won was mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens of
the country. Democrat territory mostly encompassed those citizens
living
in government-owned tenements and living off various forms of
government
welfare..."

not quite. the states won by the GOP were those where abortion,
divorce and teen pregnancy is rampant. IOW where people don't practice
what they preach. and they are states where people get more from the
govt than they pay in taxes.

If Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to twenty million criminal
invaders called illegals and they vote, then we can say goodbye to the
USA in fewer than five years. If you are in favor of this, then by
all means, delete this message.

this is the problem with conservatives: they want to deny citizenship
to hard working people and give it to the chairman of AIG and lehman
bros.

People do not vote for the President. States vote for the President.
Did you sleep during Civics class? How a state picks their Electors is
up to the state. Just happens that now all states have elections to
pick
the Electoral slate. And most states do not require the Electors to
actually vote for the person picked by their electors. California, they
only have to vote for the chosen candidate on the first ballot. So if a
tie on the first ballot, the Electoral College could vote for someone
not
even on the ballot.

Jesus, Bill, is that the latest right wing wet dream, that since the
"conservatives" will not win the presidential election in 2012 (with
who?
Sarah Palin, Bobby Jindal?), the best hope is to subvert the electoral
college?

You need to expand your horizons beyond Faux News and World Nutcase
Daily.
The Onion is more reliable and accurate than either Faux or WND.

If my wet dream as you state was to subvert the Electoral College, it
would
not be for either a Dem or Repub. I would shake up the status qup. You
must have slept though Civics also. Just pointing out the People do not
get
to vote for the President.-

nor do counties.

you need a few dozen civics classes yourself.

WTF? *Where did counties come in?-

you didn't read the original article did you?

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On Mar 25, 7:49 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
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On Mar 25, 4:01 am, "Calif Bill" wrote:





"HK" wrote in message

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Calif Bill wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message
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On Mar 24, 6:15 am, "Mr. Jim" wrote:
Subject: Fw: Goodbye America

?
Professor Joseph Olson of Hemline University School of Law, St. Paul
, Minnesota , points out some interesting facts concerning the 2008
Presidential election:

* Number of States won by: Democrats: 19 Republicans: 29
* Square miles of land won by: Democrats: 580,000 Republicans:
2,427,000
* Population of counties won by: Democrats: 127 million
Republicans: 143 million
* Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by: Democrats:
13.2 Republicans: 2.1

land doesn't vote. nor do states. only people vote. so the stats are
irrelevant.

Professor Olson adds: "In aggregate, the map of the territory
Republicans won was mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens
of
the country. Democrat territory mostly encompassed those citizens
living
in government-owned tenements and living off various forms of
government
welfare..."

not quite. the states won by the GOP were those where abortion,
divorce and teen pregnancy is rampant. IOW where people don't
practice
what they preach. and they are states where people get more from the
govt than they pay in taxes.

If Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to twenty million
criminal
invaders called illegals and they vote, then we can say goodbye to
the
USA in fewer than five years. If you are in favor of this, then by
all means, delete this message.

this is the problem with conservatives: they want to deny citizenship
to hard working people and give it to the chairman of AIG and lehman
bros.

People do not vote for the President. States vote for the President.
Did you sleep during Civics class? How a state picks their Electors
is
up to the state. Just happens that now all states have elections to
pick
the Electoral slate. And most states do not require the Electors to
actually vote for the person picked by their electors. California,
they
only have to vote for the chosen candidate on the first ballot. So if
a
tie on the first ballot, the Electoral College could vote for someone
not
even on the ballot.

Jesus, Bill, is that the latest right wing wet dream, that since the
"conservatives" will not win the presidential election in 2012 (with
who?
Sarah Palin, Bobby Jindal?), the best hope is to subvert the electoral
college?

You need to expand your horizons beyond Faux News and World Nutcase
Daily.
The Onion is more reliable and accurate than either Faux or WND.

If my wet dream as you state was to subvert the Electoral College, it
would
not be for either a Dem or Repub. I would shake up the status qup. You
must have slept though Civics also. Just pointing out the People do not
get
to vote for the President.-

nor do counties.

you need a few dozen civics classes yourself.

WTF? Where did counties come in?-

you didn't read the original article did you?

I did. But we were talking about Electoral voters being picked by the
state. Fact is, the states could have the counties pick the electors.