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Yesterday, a poster answered my post where I bought some bottles of Johnson
outboard oil. IIRC, he said to be sure it was TC-W3.

I looked on the bottles, and this is TC-W II.

Now, I go googling, and come up with the terms two cycle and two stroke. To
my understanding, they are the same, using a firing system that has no
valves, and the oil/gas mixture goes on both sides of the piston, versus the
four stroke where the crankcase oil is isolated from the combustion chamber,
has a valve train, and it is called a four stroke. Never heard one referred
to as a four cycle motor.

Can someone give me the short answer on if this TC-WII Johnson oil is good
to use in my '89 Merc 4 cyl TWO STROKE motor?

Is there a discernable difference between TC-WII and TC-W3 oil?

I've run a lot of oil and a lot of gas in a lot of engines. Only burned up
one chain saw, and that was when I had too much beer and used straight gas
in it. OOps. Other than that, I have never had a problem, and have to say
I probably ran stuff a lot oilier than I should have, but that's better than
the chain saw episode.

Does this difference in oils really make a difference other than to anal
personalities? What is the difference between type 2 and type 3 oil?

Steve


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SteveB wrote:
Yesterday, a poster answered my post where I bought some bottles of Johnson
outboard oil. IIRC, he said to be sure it was TC-W3.

I looked on the bottles, and this is TC-W II.

Now, I go googling, and come up with the terms two cycle and two stroke. To
my understanding, they are the same, using a firing system that has no
valves, and the oil/gas mixture goes on both sides of the piston, versus the
four stroke where the crankcase oil is isolated from the combustion chamber,
has a valve train, and it is called a four stroke. Never heard one referred
to as a four cycle motor.

Can someone give me the short answer on if this TC-WII Johnson oil is good
to use in my '89 Merc 4 cyl TWO STROKE motor?

Is there a discernable difference between TC-WII and TC-W3 oil?

I've run a lot of oil and a lot of gas in a lot of engines. Only burned up
one chain saw, and that was when I had too much beer and used straight gas
in it. OOps. Other than that, I have never had a problem, and have to say
I probably ran stuff a lot oilier than I should have, but that's better than
the chain saw episode.

Does this difference in oils really make a difference other than to anal
personalities? What is the difference between type 2 and type 3 oil?

Steve



I made suggestions to you about this earlier.
The differences in two stroke oil types are significant.


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On Mar 18, 6:30*am, HK wrote:
SteveB wrote:
Yesterday, a poster answered my post where I bought some bottles of Johnson
outboard oil. *IIRC, he said to be sure it was TC-W3.


I looked on the bottles, and this is TC-W II.


Now, I go googling, and come up with the terms two cycle and two stroke.. *To
my understanding, they are the same, using a firing system that has no
valves, and the oil/gas mixture goes on both sides of the piston, versus the
four stroke where the crankcase oil is isolated from the combustion chamber,
has a valve train, and it is called a four stroke. *Never heard one referred
to as a four cycle motor.


Can someone give me the short answer on if this TC-WII Johnson oil is good
to use in my '89 Merc 4 cyl TWO STROKE motor?


Is there a discernable difference between TC-WII and TC-W3 oil?


I've run a lot of oil and a lot of gas in a lot of engines. *Only burned up
one chain saw, and that was when I had too much beer and used straight gas
in it. *OOps. *Other than that, I have never had a problem, and have to say
I probably ran stuff a lot oilier than I should have, but that's better than
the chain saw episode.


Does this difference in oils really make a difference other than to anal
personalities? *What is the difference between type 2 and type 3 oil?


Steve


I made suggestions to you about this earlier.
The differences in two stroke oil types are significant.

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Horse****. The only difference between 2 and 3 is that 3 has a tad bit
more anti-carbon agent in it. Now, I know you will start your idiotic
and childish name calling, so let's cut to the chase. Show me the
"significant" differences.
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On Mar 18, 6:30 am, HK wrote:
SteveB wrote:
Yesterday, a poster answered my post where I bought some bottles of
Johnson
outboard oil. IIRC, he said to be sure it was TC-W3.


I looked on the bottles, and this is TC-W II.


Now, I go googling, and come up with the terms two cycle and two stroke.
To
my understanding, they are the same, using a firing system that has no
valves, and the oil/gas mixture goes on both sides of the piston, versus
the
four stroke where the crankcase oil is isolated from the combustion
chamber,
has a valve train, and it is called a four stroke. Never heard one
referred
to as a four cycle motor.


Can someone give me the short answer on if this TC-WII Johnson oil is
good
to use in my '89 Merc 4 cyl TWO STROKE motor?


Is there a discernable difference between TC-WII and TC-W3 oil?


I've run a lot of oil and a lot of gas in a lot of engines. Only burned
up
one chain saw, and that was when I had too much beer and used straight
gas
in it. OOps. Other than that, I have never had a problem, and have to
say
I probably ran stuff a lot oilier than I should have, but that's better
than
the chain saw episode.


Does this difference in oils really make a difference other than to anal
personalities? What is the difference between type 2 and type 3 oil?


Steve


I made suggestions to you about this earlier.
The differences in two stroke oil types are significant.

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Horse****. The only difference between 2 and 3 is that 3 has a tad bit
more anti-carbon agent in it. Now, I know you will start your idiotic
and childish name calling, so let's cut to the chase. Show me the
"significant" differences.

---------------------------

He can use either oil if his outboard is of an 80's vintage. The Type III
oil is backwards compatible for engines that originally called for Type II.

Eisboch

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On Mar 18, 8:35*am, "Eisboch" wrote:
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On Mar 18, 6:30 am, HK wrote:





SteveB wrote:
Yesterday, a poster answered my post where I bought some bottles of
Johnson
outboard oil. IIRC, he said to be sure it was TC-W3.


I looked on the bottles, and this is TC-W II.


Now, I go googling, and come up with the terms two cycle and two stroke.
To
my understanding, they are the same, using a firing system that has no
valves, and the oil/gas mixture goes on both sides of the piston, versus
the
four stroke where the crankcase oil is isolated from the combustion
chamber,
has a valve train, and it is called a four stroke. Never heard one
referred
to as a four cycle motor.


Can someone give me the short answer on if this TC-WII Johnson oil is
good
to use in my '89 Merc 4 cyl TWO STROKE motor?


Is there a discernable difference between TC-WII and TC-W3 oil?


I've run a lot of oil and a lot of gas in a lot of engines. Only burned
up
one chain saw, and that was when I had too much beer and used straight
gas
in it. OOps. Other than that, I have never had a problem, and have to
say
I probably ran stuff a lot oilier than I should have, but that's better
than
the chain saw episode.


Does this difference in oils really make a difference other than to anal
personalities? What is the difference between type 2 and type 3 oil?


Steve


I made suggestions to you about this earlier.
The differences in two stroke oil types are significant.


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Horse****. The only difference between 2 and 3 is that 3 has a tad bit
more anti-carbon agent in it. Now, I know you will start your idiotic
and childish name calling, so let's cut to the chase. Show me the
"significant" differences.

---------------------------

He can use either oil if his outboard is of an 80's vintage. *The Type III
oil is backwards compatible for engines that originally called for Type II.

Eisboch- Hide quoted text -

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True.

I use the wally world 2 stroke oil in our pwc. I'm not buying
"expensive" oil to get used once and burned :-)


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On Mar 29, 2:46*pm, "A Real Boater" wrote:
On Mar 18, 2009, wrote:

Horse****. The only difference between 2 and 3 is that 3 has a tad bit
more anti-carbon agent in it. Now, I know you will start your idiotic
and childish name calling, so let's cut to the chase. Show me the
"significant" differences.


Wonderful. A pot-head giving a beered-up redneck advice on safe operation of
an engine.

Here's what you want to hear: Go ahead and use up your 10 year old
crap-for-oil. It won't hurt your engine inspite of what everybody says.
Happy?


Can't prove me wrong, because I'm right. So, you insult like a little
school girl. What makes you think I'm a "pot-head"? Have any proof of
your wild allegations, or are you like Don and Harry, just lying?
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"HK" wrote in message
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SteveB wrote:
Yesterday, a poster answered my post where I bought some bottles of
Johnson outboard oil. IIRC, he said to be sure it was TC-W3.

I looked on the bottles, and this is TC-W II.

Now, I go googling, and come up with the terms two cycle and two stroke.
To my understanding, they are the same, using a firing system that has no
valves, and the oil/gas mixture goes on both sides of the piston, versus
the four stroke where the crankcase oil is isolated from the combustion
chamber, has a valve train, and it is called a four stroke. Never heard
one referred to as a four cycle motor.

Can someone give me the short answer on if this TC-WII Johnson oil is
good to use in my '89 Merc 4 cyl TWO STROKE motor?

Is there a discernable difference between TC-WII and TC-W3 oil?

I've run a lot of oil and a lot of gas in a lot of engines. Only burned
up one chain saw, and that was when I had too much beer and used straight
gas in it. OOps. Other than that, I have never had a problem, and have
to say I probably ran stuff a lot oilier than I should have, but that's
better than the chain saw episode.

Does this difference in oils really make a difference other than to anal
personalities? What is the difference between type 2 and type 3 oil?

Steve


I made suggestions to you about this earlier.
The differences in two stroke oil types are significant.


I am sorry. I had a TBI five years ago, and forget easily. I didn't want
to put you out by having you have to comment on it again. Sorry.

Steve


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On Mar 17, 11:13*pm, "SteveB" wrote:
Yesterday, a poster answered my post where I bought some bottles of Johnson
outboard oil. *IIRC, he said to be sure it was TC-W3.

I looked on the bottles, and this is TC-W II.

Now, I go googling, and come up with the terms two cycle and two stroke. *To
my understanding, they are the same, using a firing system that has no
valves, and the oil/gas mixture goes on both sides of the piston, versus the
four stroke where the crankcase oil is isolated from the combustion chamber,
has a valve train, and it is called a four stroke. *Never heard one referred
to as a four cycle motor.

Can someone give me the short answer on if this TC-WII Johnson oil is good
to use in my '89 Merc 4 cyl TWO STROKE motor?

Is there a discernable difference between TC-WII and TC-W3 oil?

I've run a lot of oil and a lot of gas in a lot of engines. *Only burned up
one chain saw, and that was when I had too much beer and used straight gas
in it. *OOps. *Other than that, I have never had a problem, and have to say
I probably ran stuff a lot oilier than I should have, but that's better than
the chain saw episode.

Does this difference in oils really make a difference other than to anal
personalities? *What is the difference between type 2 and type 3 oil?

Steve


In fact the 3 spec was published in 94 so your 89 engine could not
have required it. Will it be the end of the world if you run that
type 2 oil through your outboard? No. You could save it for the home
tools if you are still concerned. As to using too much, that's not a
good thing either. Excessive oil will increase deposits on the
pistons. You should mix the oil to the recomendations if the engine
uses premix.


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