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Yesterday, a poster answered my post where I bought some bottles of Johnson
outboard oil. IIRC, he said to be sure it was TC-W3. I looked on the bottles, and this is TC-W II. Now, I go googling, and come up with the terms two cycle and two stroke. To my understanding, they are the same, using a firing system that has no valves, and the oil/gas mixture goes on both sides of the piston, versus the four stroke where the crankcase oil is isolated from the combustion chamber, has a valve train, and it is called a four stroke. Never heard one referred to as a four cycle motor. Can someone give me the short answer on if this TC-WII Johnson oil is good to use in my '89 Merc 4 cyl TWO STROKE motor? Is there a discernable difference between TC-WII and TC-W3 oil? I've run a lot of oil and a lot of gas in a lot of engines. Only burned up one chain saw, and that was when I had too much beer and used straight gas in it. OOps. Other than that, I have never had a problem, and have to say I probably ran stuff a lot oilier than I should have, but that's better than the chain saw episode. Does this difference in oils really make a difference other than to anal personalities? What is the difference between type 2 and type 3 oil? Steve |
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SteveB wrote:
Yesterday, a poster answered my post where I bought some bottles of Johnson outboard oil. IIRC, he said to be sure it was TC-W3. I looked on the bottles, and this is TC-W II. Now, I go googling, and come up with the terms two cycle and two stroke. To my understanding, they are the same, using a firing system that has no valves, and the oil/gas mixture goes on both sides of the piston, versus the four stroke where the crankcase oil is isolated from the combustion chamber, has a valve train, and it is called a four stroke. Never heard one referred to as a four cycle motor. Can someone give me the short answer on if this TC-WII Johnson oil is good to use in my '89 Merc 4 cyl TWO STROKE motor? Is there a discernable difference between TC-WII and TC-W3 oil? I've run a lot of oil and a lot of gas in a lot of engines. Only burned up one chain saw, and that was when I had too much beer and used straight gas in it. OOps. Other than that, I have never had a problem, and have to say I probably ran stuff a lot oilier than I should have, but that's better than the chain saw episode. Does this difference in oils really make a difference other than to anal personalities? What is the difference between type 2 and type 3 oil? Steve I made suggestions to you about this earlier. The differences in two stroke oil types are significant. -- Appearing via Thunderbird on an iMac 3.06 or a Macbook Pro 2.4, running Mac OS 10.56, *or* Microsoft VISTA through BootCamp. |
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On Mar 18, 6:30*am, HK wrote:
SteveB wrote: Yesterday, a poster answered my post where I bought some bottles of Johnson outboard oil. *IIRC, he said to be sure it was TC-W3. I looked on the bottles, and this is TC-W II. Now, I go googling, and come up with the terms two cycle and two stroke.. *To my understanding, they are the same, using a firing system that has no valves, and the oil/gas mixture goes on both sides of the piston, versus the four stroke where the crankcase oil is isolated from the combustion chamber, has a valve train, and it is called a four stroke. *Never heard one referred to as a four cycle motor. Can someone give me the short answer on if this TC-WII Johnson oil is good to use in my '89 Merc 4 cyl TWO STROKE motor? Is there a discernable difference between TC-WII and TC-W3 oil? I've run a lot of oil and a lot of gas in a lot of engines. *Only burned up one chain saw, and that was when I had too much beer and used straight gas in it. *OOps. *Other than that, I have never had a problem, and have to say I probably ran stuff a lot oilier than I should have, but that's better than the chain saw episode. Does this difference in oils really make a difference other than to anal personalities? *What is the difference between type 2 and type 3 oil? Steve I made suggestions to you about this earlier. The differences in two stroke oil types are significant. -- Appearing via Thunderbird on an iMac 3.06 or a Macbook Pro 2.4, running Mac OS 10.56, *or* Microsoft VISTA through BootCamp.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Horse****. The only difference between 2 and 3 is that 3 has a tad bit more anti-carbon agent in it. Now, I know you will start your idiotic and childish name calling, so let's cut to the chase. Show me the "significant" differences. |
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![]() wrote in message ... On Mar 18, 6:30 am, HK wrote: SteveB wrote: Yesterday, a poster answered my post where I bought some bottles of Johnson outboard oil. IIRC, he said to be sure it was TC-W3. I looked on the bottles, and this is TC-W II. Now, I go googling, and come up with the terms two cycle and two stroke. To my understanding, they are the same, using a firing system that has no valves, and the oil/gas mixture goes on both sides of the piston, versus the four stroke where the crankcase oil is isolated from the combustion chamber, has a valve train, and it is called a four stroke. Never heard one referred to as a four cycle motor. Can someone give me the short answer on if this TC-WII Johnson oil is good to use in my '89 Merc 4 cyl TWO STROKE motor? Is there a discernable difference between TC-WII and TC-W3 oil? I've run a lot of oil and a lot of gas in a lot of engines. Only burned up one chain saw, and that was when I had too much beer and used straight gas in it. OOps. Other than that, I have never had a problem, and have to say I probably ran stuff a lot oilier than I should have, but that's better than the chain saw episode. Does this difference in oils really make a difference other than to anal personalities? What is the difference between type 2 and type 3 oil? Steve I made suggestions to you about this earlier. The differences in two stroke oil types are significant. -- Appearing via Thunderbird on an iMac 3.06 or a Macbook Pro 2.4, running Mac OS 10.56, *or* Microsoft VISTA through BootCamp.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Horse****. The only difference between 2 and 3 is that 3 has a tad bit more anti-carbon agent in it. Now, I know you will start your idiotic and childish name calling, so let's cut to the chase. Show me the "significant" differences. --------------------------- He can use either oil if his outboard is of an 80's vintage. The Type III oil is backwards compatible for engines that originally called for Type II. Eisboch |
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On Mar 18, 8:35*am, "Eisboch" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Mar 18, 6:30 am, HK wrote: SteveB wrote: Yesterday, a poster answered my post where I bought some bottles of Johnson outboard oil. IIRC, he said to be sure it was TC-W3. I looked on the bottles, and this is TC-W II. Now, I go googling, and come up with the terms two cycle and two stroke. To my understanding, they are the same, using a firing system that has no valves, and the oil/gas mixture goes on both sides of the piston, versus the four stroke where the crankcase oil is isolated from the combustion chamber, has a valve train, and it is called a four stroke. Never heard one referred to as a four cycle motor. Can someone give me the short answer on if this TC-WII Johnson oil is good to use in my '89 Merc 4 cyl TWO STROKE motor? Is there a discernable difference between TC-WII and TC-W3 oil? I've run a lot of oil and a lot of gas in a lot of engines. Only burned up one chain saw, and that was when I had too much beer and used straight gas in it. OOps. Other than that, I have never had a problem, and have to say I probably ran stuff a lot oilier than I should have, but that's better than the chain saw episode. Does this difference in oils really make a difference other than to anal personalities? What is the difference between type 2 and type 3 oil? Steve I made suggestions to you about this earlier. The differences in two stroke oil types are significant. -- Appearing via Thunderbird on an iMac 3.06 or a Macbook Pro 2.4, running Mac OS 10.56, *or* Microsoft VISTA through BootCamp.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Horse****. The only difference between 2 and 3 is that 3 has a tad bit more anti-carbon agent in it. Now, I know you will start your idiotic and childish name calling, so let's cut to the chase. Show me the "significant" differences. --------------------------- He can use either oil if his outboard is of an 80's vintage. *The Type III oil is backwards compatible for engines that originally called for Type II. Eisboch- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - True. I use the wally world 2 stroke oil in our pwc. I'm not buying "expensive" oil to get used once and burned :-) |
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On Mar 29, 2:46*pm, "A Real Boater" wrote:
On Mar 18, 2009, wrote: Horse****. The only difference between 2 and 3 is that 3 has a tad bit more anti-carbon agent in it. Now, I know you will start your idiotic and childish name calling, so let's cut to the chase. Show me the "significant" differences. Wonderful. A pot-head giving a beered-up redneck advice on safe operation of an engine. Here's what you want to hear: Go ahead and use up your 10 year old crap-for-oil. It won't hurt your engine inspite of what everybody says. Happy? Can't prove me wrong, because I'm right. So, you insult like a little school girl. What makes you think I'm a "pot-head"? Have any proof of your wild allegations, or are you like Don and Harry, just lying? |
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![]() "HK" wrote in message ... SteveB wrote: Yesterday, a poster answered my post where I bought some bottles of Johnson outboard oil. IIRC, he said to be sure it was TC-W3. I looked on the bottles, and this is TC-W II. Now, I go googling, and come up with the terms two cycle and two stroke. To my understanding, they are the same, using a firing system that has no valves, and the oil/gas mixture goes on both sides of the piston, versus the four stroke where the crankcase oil is isolated from the combustion chamber, has a valve train, and it is called a four stroke. Never heard one referred to as a four cycle motor. Can someone give me the short answer on if this TC-WII Johnson oil is good to use in my '89 Merc 4 cyl TWO STROKE motor? Is there a discernable difference between TC-WII and TC-W3 oil? I've run a lot of oil and a lot of gas in a lot of engines. Only burned up one chain saw, and that was when I had too much beer and used straight gas in it. OOps. Other than that, I have never had a problem, and have to say I probably ran stuff a lot oilier than I should have, but that's better than the chain saw episode. Does this difference in oils really make a difference other than to anal personalities? What is the difference between type 2 and type 3 oil? Steve I made suggestions to you about this earlier. The differences in two stroke oil types are significant. I am sorry. I had a TBI five years ago, and forget easily. I didn't want to put you out by having you have to comment on it again. Sorry. Steve |
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On Mar 17, 11:13*pm, "SteveB" wrote:
Yesterday, a poster answered my post where I bought some bottles of Johnson outboard oil. *IIRC, he said to be sure it was TC-W3. I looked on the bottles, and this is TC-W II. Now, I go googling, and come up with the terms two cycle and two stroke. *To my understanding, they are the same, using a firing system that has no valves, and the oil/gas mixture goes on both sides of the piston, versus the four stroke where the crankcase oil is isolated from the combustion chamber, has a valve train, and it is called a four stroke. *Never heard one referred to as a four cycle motor. Can someone give me the short answer on if this TC-WII Johnson oil is good to use in my '89 Merc 4 cyl TWO STROKE motor? Is there a discernable difference between TC-WII and TC-W3 oil? I've run a lot of oil and a lot of gas in a lot of engines. *Only burned up one chain saw, and that was when I had too much beer and used straight gas in it. *OOps. *Other than that, I have never had a problem, and have to say I probably ran stuff a lot oilier than I should have, but that's better than the chain saw episode. Does this difference in oils really make a difference other than to anal personalities? *What is the difference between type 2 and type 3 oil? Steve In fact the 3 spec was published in 94 so your 89 engine could not have required it. Will it be the end of the world if you run that type 2 oil through your outboard? No. You could save it for the home tools if you are still concerned. As to using too much, that's not a good thing either. Excessive oil will increase deposits on the pistons. You should mix the oil to the recomendations if the engine uses premix. |
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