On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 08:38:51 -0500, HK wrote:

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 07:29:29 -0500, HK wrote:

When Paul Revere took his ride to warn the brits were coming, do you
think those who took arms did so individually, or as part of a
community, organized by a community organizer?

Ok, explain that.

Seriously.

--

"I intend to live forever. So far, so good."

Steven Wright


Explain what? Who do you think went around to the townsfolk, saying,
"Hey...we need to form up a militia."

Who organized the townfolk to form a fire brigade?

Who got a city behind building a hospital?

These are all community organizer jobs. You may think such tasks are not
community organizing, but that is exactly what they are.

The problem here is that you righties are hung up on the phrase. You
have no idea of what it really means. Community organizing is simply
helping people with similar interests band together to achieve common goals.

That's what I tought.

Under that definition, my DI could be considered a "community
organizer".

I support the idea that the term "community organizer" be changed to
"social engineer".

That should clear up any confusion. :)

--

"I intend to live forever. So far, so good."

Steven Wright

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 08:38:51 -0500, HK wrote:

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 07:29:29 -0500, HK wrote:

When Paul Revere took his ride to warn the brits were coming, do you
think those who took arms did so individually, or as part of a
community, organized by a community organizer?
Ok, explain that.

Seriously.

--

"I intend to live forever. So far, so good."

Steven Wright

Explain what? Who do you think went around to the townsfolk, saying,
"Hey...we need to form up a militia."

Who organized the townfolk to form a fire brigade?

Who got a city behind building a hospital?

These are all community organizer jobs. You may think such tasks are not
community organizing, but that is exactly what they are.

The problem here is that you righties are hung up on the phrase. You
have no idea of what it really means. Community organizing is simply
helping people with similar interests band together to achieve common goals.

That's what I tought.

Under that definition, my DI could be considered a "community
organizer".

I support the idea that the term "community organizer" be changed to
"social engineer".

That should clear up any confusion. :)

--

"I intend to live forever. So far, so good."

Steven Wright



Your DI? As in drill instructor? Do you two get together?

"HK" wrote in message
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Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 07:29:29 -0500, HK wrote:

When Paul Revere took his ride to warn the brits were coming, do you
think those who took arms did so individually, or as part of a
community, organized by a community organizer?

Ok, explain that.

Seriously.




Explain what? Who do you think went around to the townsfolk, saying,
"Hey...we need to form up a militia."

Who organized the townfolk to form a fire brigade?

Who got a city behind building a hospital?

These are all community organizer jobs. You may think such tasks are not
community organizing, but that is exactly what they are.



Wow. Barack Obama formed a militia?
Caused a hospital to be built?
Formed a fire department?

I've "mis-underestimated" him, to quote our past POTUS.

I think all he ever accomplished was collecting Acorns.

Eisboch

On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 08:34:36 -0500, HK wrote:

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 06:11:03 -0600, thunder
wrote:

Personally, I don't understand the resistance to Obama's 16 month
withdrawal. The Status of Forces agreement has us out of the cities by
June, and out of Iraq in 36 months. Al-Maliki states an earlier
withdrawal if OK by him. The Sunnis seemed concerned by our leaving, but
there seems to be an effort to address their issues. I mean, Iraq is
looking relatively stable, though fragile, and we can use the manpower in
Afghanistan, where things look to be going downhill.

Afghanistan will be President Obama's Vietnam.

Gad, i love these pronouncements from Mt. Olympus. You're beginning to
sound like BAR. I thought you were a lot brighter.

Consider that in your memory, one of the mightiest militaries in the
world, couldn't keep Afghanistan under it's control

The Persians couldn't do it, the Mongols couldn't go it, the British
couldn't do it, the Russians couldn't do it and in truth, we won't be
able to do it either without a massive military commitment that will
make Russia's efforts pale in comparison.

Afghanistan is a harsh and forbiddable place. In some aspects, it's a
lot like Vietnam with ready hiding places, a dedicated faith based
death cult insurgency (as opposed to an ideological based insurgency)
and no ready way to get military assets in and out without assistance
from governments who don't quite see the world the way we do.

I can't wait for all the complaints about dead soldiers in the
upcoming Afghanistan debacle that will be known as "Obama's War".

Keep your liberal fingers warmed up - I expect complaints from you
about the cost of "Obama's War" on Afghanistan.

And I'm archiving all your replies to this post just to keep you
honest. :)

--

"Never fight an inanimate object."

P.J. O'Rourke

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 08:34:36 -0500, HK wrote:

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 06:11:03 -0600, thunder
wrote:

Personally, I don't understand the resistance to Obama's 16 month
withdrawal. The Status of Forces agreement has us out of the cities by
June, and out of Iraq in 36 months. Al-Maliki states an earlier
withdrawal if OK by him. The Sunnis seemed concerned by our leaving, but
there seems to be an effort to address their issues. I mean, Iraq is
looking relatively stable, though fragile, and we can use the manpower in
Afghanistan, where things look to be going downhill.
Afghanistan will be President Obama's Vietnam.
Gad, i love these pronouncements from Mt. Olympus. You're beginning to
sound like BAR. I thought you were a lot brighter.

Consider that in your memory, one of the mightiest militaries in the
world, couldn't keep Afghanistan under it's control


We're all aware of Afghanistan's history. Too bad Bush shot and wasted
our wad in Iraq, eh? Well, stupid is as stupid does.

On Feb 5, 10:10*am, HK wrote:
Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 08:38:51 -0500, HK wrote:

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 07:29:29 -0500, HK wrote:

When Paul Revere took his ride to warn the brits were coming, do you
think those who took arms did so individually, or as part of a
community, organized by a community organizer?
Ok, explain that.

Seriously.

--

"I intend to live forever. So far, so good."

Steven Wright

Explain what? Who do you think went around to the townsfolk, saying,
"Hey...we need to form up a militia."

Who organized the townfolk to form a fire brigade?

Who got a city behind building a hospital?

These are all community organizer jobs. You may think such tasks are not
community organizing, but that is exactly what they are.

The problem here is that you righties are hung up on the phrase. You
have no idea of what it really means. Community organizing is simply
helping people with similar interests band together to achieve common goals.

That's what I tought.

Under that definition, my DI could be considered a "community
organizer".

I support the idea that the term "community organizer" be changed to
"social engineer".

That should clear up any confusion. *:)

--

"I intend to live forever. So far, so good."

Steven Wright

Your DI? As in drill instructor? Do you two get together?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Harry, I think you seriously under-estimate the knowledge of the
Wizard.

On Feb 5, 11:31*am, HK wrote:
Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 08:34:36 -0500, HK wrote:

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 06:11:03 -0600, thunder
wrote:

Personally, I don't understand the resistance to Obama's 16 month
withdrawal. *The Status of Forces agreement has us out of the cities by
June, and out of Iraq in 36 months. *Al-Maliki states an earlier
withdrawal if OK by him. *The Sunnis seemed concerned by our leaving, but
there seems to be an effort to address their issues. *I mean, Iraq is
looking relatively stable, though fragile, and we can use the manpower in
Afghanistan, where things look to be going downhill.
Afghanistan will be President Obama's Vietnam.
Gad, i love these pronouncements from Mt. Olympus. You're beginning to
sound like BAR. I thought you were a lot brighter.

Consider that in your memory, one of the mightiest militaries in the
world, couldn't keep Afghanistan under it's control

We're all aware of Afghanistan's history. Too bad Bush shot and wasted
our wad in Iraq, eh? Well, stupid is as stupid does.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Funny how the MSM never even noted that Iraq had a free election last
weekend without violence... You don't get it because you don't feel a
countries people should have a voice...

Tim wrote:
On Feb 5, 10:10 am, HK wrote:
Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 08:38:51 -0500, HK wrote:
Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 07:29:29 -0500, HK wrote:
When Paul Revere took his ride to warn the brits were coming, do you
think those who took arms did so individually, or as part of a
community, organized by a community organizer?
Ok, explain that.
Seriously.
--
"I intend to live forever. So far, so good."
Steven Wright
Explain what? Who do you think went around to the townsfolk, saying,
"Hey...we need to form up a militia."
Who organized the townfolk to form a fire brigade?
Who got a city behind building a hospital?
These are all community organizer jobs. You may think such tasks are not
community organizing, but that is exactly what they are.
The problem here is that you righties are hung up on the phrase. You
have no idea of what it really means. Community organizing is simply
helping people with similar interests band together to achieve common goals.
That's what I tought.
Under that definition, my DI could be considered a "community
organizer".
I support the idea that the term "community organizer" be changed to
"social engineer".
That should clear up any confusion. :)
--
"I intend to live forever. So far, so good."
Steven Wright
Your DI? As in drill instructor? Do you two get together?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Harry, I think you seriously under-estimate the knowledge of the
Wizard.

snerk

On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 11:31:26 -0500, HK wrote:

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 08:34:36 -0500, HK wrote:

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 06:11:03 -0600, thunder
wrote:

Personally, I don't understand the resistance to Obama's 16 month
withdrawal. The Status of Forces agreement has us out of the cities by
June, and out of Iraq in 36 months. Al-Maliki states an earlier
withdrawal if OK by him. The Sunnis seemed concerned by our leaving, but
there seems to be an effort to address their issues. I mean, Iraq is
looking relatively stable, though fragile, and we can use the manpower in
Afghanistan, where things look to be going downhill.
Afghanistan will be President Obama's Vietnam.
Gad, i love these pronouncements from Mt. Olympus. You're beginning to
sound like BAR. I thought you were a lot brighter.

Consider that in your memory, one of the mightiest militaries in the
world, couldn't keep Afghanistan under it's control

We're all aware of Afghanistan's history. Too bad Bush shot and wasted
our wad in Iraq, eh? Well, stupid is as stupid does.

Ah yes - the famous Harry Krause logic - just call everybody stupid.
--

Happy Holidays and Merry Whatever It Is
That ****es Liberals Off.

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 11:31:26 -0500, HK wrote:

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 08:34:36 -0500, HK wrote:

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 06:11:03 -0600, thunder
wrote:

Personally, I don't understand the resistance to Obama's 16 month
withdrawal. The Status of Forces agreement has us out of the cities by
June, and out of Iraq in 36 months. Al-Maliki states an earlier
withdrawal if OK by him. The Sunnis seemed concerned by our leaving, but
there seems to be an effort to address their issues. I mean, Iraq is
looking relatively stable, though fragile, and we can use the manpower in
Afghanistan, where things look to be going downhill.
Afghanistan will be President Obama's Vietnam.
Gad, i love these pronouncements from Mt. Olympus. You're beginning to
sound like BAR. I thought you were a lot brighter.
Consider that in your memory, one of the mightiest militaries in the
world, couldn't keep Afghanistan under it's control
We're all aware of Afghanistan's history. Too bad Bush shot and wasted
our wad in Iraq, eh? Well, stupid is as stupid does.

Ah yes - the famous Harry Krause logic - just call everybody stupid.
--

Happy Holidays and Merry Whatever It Is
That ****es Liberals Off.


Well, if the foo schitts...

Bush is an idiot. Worst president ever.