On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 09:48:11 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
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US-IRAQ:
Generals Seek to Reverse Obama Withdrawal Decision

Gareth Porter*



Shades of Lyndon Johnson. He didn't want to listen to his military
commanders either.

"I will not seek, nor will I accept my party's nomination ...."

Heh...

The more I see of Obama, the more I see a "community organizer" than
an executive.

Well, we'll see - time will tell.

--

"I am free of all prejudices. I hate every one equally."

W.C. Fields

On Feb 4, 11:19*am, Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 09:48:11 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:



"HK" wrote in message
...

US-IRAQ:
Generals Seek to Reverse Obama Withdrawal Decision

Gareth Porter*

Shades of Lyndon Johnson. *He didn't want to listen to his military
commanders either.

"I will not seek, nor will I accept my party's nomination ...."

Heh...

The more I see of Obama, the more I see a "community organizer" than
an executive.

Well, we'll see - time will tell.

--

"I am free of all prejudices. I hate every one equally."

W.C. Fields

Remember, the "community organizing" consisted of training voter
cheats for ACORN... When dems say "community organizer" they are
thinking more Al Capone than Martin L King... He has surrounded
himself with criminals, what do you expect?

On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 09:48:11 -0500, Eisboch wrote:


Shades of Lyndon Johnson. He didn't want to listen to his military
commanders either.

*If* this article it to be believed, those military commanders should be
fired, at the very least.

http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=45640

thunder wrote:
On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 09:48:11 -0500, Eisboch wrote:


Shades of Lyndon Johnson. He didn't want to listen to his military
commanders either.

*If* this article it to be believed, those military commanders should be
fired, at the very least.

http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=45640


The trouble with midlevel to senior military personnel is that they
comprise a special interest group, and that interest is in keeping
themselves and their buddies in uniform, and the apparatus well-oiled. I
hear them on TV from time to time talking about how much they hate war,
but I don't believe them. War swells the ranks, empties billets, and
creates all sorts of promotional opportunities.

On Feb 4, 1:13*pm, HK wrote:
thunder wrote:
On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 09:48:11 -0500, Eisboch wrote:

Shades of Lyndon Johnson. *He didn't want to listen to his military
commanders either.

*If* this article it to be believed, those military commanders should be
fired, at the very least.

http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=45640

The trouble with midlevel to senior military personnel is that they
comprise a special interest group, and that interest is in keeping
themselves and their buddies in uniform, and the apparatus well-oiled. I
hear them on TV from time to time talking about how much they hate war,
but I don't believe them. War swells the ranks, empties billets, and
creates all sorts of promotional opportunities.

Sounds alot like mid-level to senior union personnel to me.

wrote:
On Feb 4, 9:31 am, wrote:
On Feb 4, 8:52 am, wrote:





On Feb 4, 8:42 am, HK wrote:
US-IRAQ:
Generals Seek to Reverse Obama Withdrawal Decision
Gareth Porter*
WASHINGTON, Feb 2 (IPS) - CENTCOM commander Gen. David Petraeus,
supported by Defence Secretary Robert Gates, tried to convince President
Barack Obama that he had to back down from his campaign pledge to
withdraw all U.S. combat troops from Iraq within 16 months at an Oval
Office meeting Jan. 21.
But Obama informed Gates, Petraeus and Joint Chiefs Chairman Adm. Mike
Mullen that he wasn't convinced and that he wanted Gates and the
military leaders to come back quickly with a detailed 16-month plan,
according to two sources who have talked with participants in the meeting.
Obama's decision to override Petraeus's recommendation has not ended the
conflict between the president and senior military officers over troop
withdrawal, however. There are indications that Petraeus and his allies
in the military and the Pentagon, including Gen. Ray Odierno, now the
top commander in Iraq, have already begun to try to pressure Obama to
change his withdrawal policy.
Gareth Porter talks to Real News about his investigative piece for IPS.
A network of senior military officers is also reported to be preparing
to support Petraeus and Odierno by mobilising public opinion against
Obama's decision.
Petraeus was visibly unhappy when he left the Oval Office, according to
one of the sources. A White House staffer present at the meeting was
quoted by the source as saying, "Petraeus made the mistake of thinking
he was still dealing with George Bush instead of with Barack Obama."
- - -
Remember the movie, "Seven Days in May"?
:)
Irrelevant.. Barakolypse never intended to get them out anyway, It was
just another geat line to get votes like all of the other promises he
made up... The brainwashed welfare state voters loved it.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
It's amazing that Harry will hide behind usenet calling people names
and such, then when he has a chance to try that crap in person, shows
what a fat lying coward he is! I'm done with him. He proved yesterday
that he's nothing but a pussy coward. Afraid of his own shadow.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Forget him.. He is only impressing Donnie, Slammer, and Salty... Can
you imagine living to play to that audience? Pfffftttt..

It's too bad he lost Jimmy H.

thunder wrote:
On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 09:48:11 -0500, Eisboch wrote:


Shades of Lyndon Johnson. He didn't want to listen to his military
commanders either.

*If* this article it to be believed, those military commanders should be
fired, at the very least.

http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=45640

You don't get to be a 4 star general officer without knowing a little
bit about politics and making friends on Capital Hill and the various
states with large military bases and defense contractors.

HK wrote:
US-IRAQ:
Generals Seek to Reverse Obama Withdrawal Decision

Gareth Porter*

WASHINGTON, Feb 2 (IPS) - CENTCOM commander Gen. David Petraeus,
supported by Defence Secretary Robert Gates, tried to convince President
Barack Obama that he had to back down from his campaign pledge to
withdraw all U.S. combat troops from Iraq within 16 months at an Oval
Office meeting Jan. 21.
But Obama informed Gates, Petraeus and Joint Chiefs Chairman Adm. Mike
Mullen that he wasn't convinced and that he wanted Gates and the
military leaders to come back quickly with a detailed 16-month plan,
according to two sources who have talked with participants in the meeting.

Obama's decision to override Petraeus's recommendation has not ended the
conflict between the president and senior military officers over troop
withdrawal, however. There are indications that Petraeus and his allies
in the military and the Pentagon, including Gen. Ray Odierno, now the
top commander in Iraq, have already begun to try to pressure Obama to
change his withdrawal policy.


Gareth Porter talks to Real News about his investigative piece for IPS.
A network of senior military officers is also reported to be preparing
to support Petraeus and Odierno by mobilising public opinion against
Obama's decision.

Petraeus was visibly unhappy when he left the Oval Office, according to
one of the sources. A White House staffer present at the meeting was
quoted by the source as saying, "Petraeus made the mistake of thinking
he was still dealing with George Bush instead of with Barack Obama."

- - -

Remember the movie, "Seven Days in May"?

:)


Can't you just post another "my dad" tale, WAFA?

On Feb 4, 10:45*am, wrote:
On Feb 4, 11:19*am, Wizard of Woodstock wrote:



On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 09:48:11 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...

US-IRAQ:
Generals Seek to Reverse Obama Withdrawal Decision

Gareth Porter*

Shades of Lyndon Johnson. *He didn't want to listen to his military
commanders either.

"I will not seek, nor will I accept my party's nomination ...."

Heh...

The more I see of Obama, the more I see a "community organizer" than
an executive.

Well, we'll see - time will tell.

--

"I am free of all prejudices. I hate every one equally."

W.C. Fields

Remember, the "community organizing" consisted of training voter
cheats for ACORN... When dems say "community organizer" they are
thinking more Al Capone than Martin L King... He has surrounded
himself with criminals, what do you expect?

When I think of community organizers i automatically think of:

http://fbuch.com/images/korda_che.jpg

Or these guys:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...b4/Che-mao.jpg

Tim wrote:
On Feb 4, 10:45 am, wrote:
On Feb 4, 11:19 am, Wizard of Woodstock wrote:



On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 09:48:11 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
US-IRAQ:
Generals Seek to Reverse Obama Withdrawal Decision
Gareth Porter*
Shades of Lyndon Johnson. He didn't want to listen to his military
commanders either.
"I will not seek, nor will I accept my party's nomination ...."
Heh...
The more I see of Obama, the more I see a "community organizer" than
an executive.
Well, we'll see - time will tell.
--
"I am free of all prejudices. I hate every one equally."
W.C. Fields
Remember, the "community organizing" consisted of training voter
cheats for ACORN... When dems say "community organizer" they are
thinking more Al Capone than Martin L King... He has surrounded
himself with criminals, what do you expect?

When I think of community organizers i automatically think of:

http://fbuch.com/images/korda_che.jpg

Or these guys:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...b4/Che-mao.jpg

I read the Che pleaded for his life when he was about to be summarily
executed. Just like a little bitch.