HK wrote:
Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 11:31:26 -0500, HK wrote:

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 08:34:36 -0500, HK wrote:

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 06:11:03 -0600, thunder
wrote:

Personally, I don't understand the resistance to Obama's 16 month
withdrawal. The Status of Forces agreement has us out of the
cities by June, and out of Iraq in 36 months. Al-Maliki states
an earlier withdrawal if OK by him. The Sunnis seemed concerned
by our leaving, but there seems to be an effort to address their
issues. I mean, Iraq is looking relatively stable, though
fragile, and we can use the manpower in Afghanistan, where things
look to be going downhill.
Afghanistan will be President Obama's Vietnam.
Gad, i love these pronouncements from Mt. Olympus. You're beginning
to sound like BAR. I thought you were a lot brighter.
Consider that in your memory, one of the mightiest militaries in the
world, couldn't keep Afghanistan under it's control
We're all aware of Afghanistan's history. Too bad Bush shot and
wasted our wad in Iraq, eh? Well, stupid is as stupid does.

Ah yes - the famous Harry Krause logic - just call everybody stupid.
--

Happy Holidays and Merry Whatever It Is That ****es Liberals Off.


Well, if the foo schitts...

Bush is an idiot. Worst president ever.



Your boy bush was the ultimate disaster, and it is going to take a
series of miracles for Obama or anyone else to haul this country's ashes
out of the fire.

And what are you concerned with? Obama's failure to be perfect in every
way, as he attempts to shovel through the mountains of Bushschitt.

I'm supposed to take your carping seriously?

HK wrote:
Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 11:31:26 -0500, HK wrote:

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 08:34:36 -0500, HK wrote:

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 06:11:03 -0600, thunder
wrote:

Personally, I don't understand the resistance to Obama's 16 month
withdrawal. The Status of Forces agreement has us out of the
cities by June, and out of Iraq in 36 months. Al-Maliki states
an earlier withdrawal if OK by him. The Sunnis seemed concerned
by our leaving, but there seems to be an effort to address their
issues. I mean, Iraq is looking relatively stable, though
fragile, and we can use the manpower in Afghanistan, where things
look to be going downhill.
Afghanistan will be President Obama's Vietnam.
Gad, i love these pronouncements from Mt. Olympus. You're beginning
to sound like BAR. I thought you were a lot brighter.
Consider that in your memory, one of the mightiest militaries in the
world, couldn't keep Afghanistan under it's control
We're all aware of Afghanistan's history. Too bad Bush shot and
wasted our wad in Iraq, eh? Well, stupid is as stupid does.

Ah yes - the famous Harry Krause logic - just call everybody stupid.
--

Happy Holidays and Merry Whatever It Is That ****es Liberals Off.


Well, if the foo schitts...

Bush is an idiot. Worst president ever.

On Feb 5, 12:16*pm, Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 11:31:26 -0500, HK wrote:
Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 08:34:36 -0500, HK wrote:

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 06:11:03 -0600, thunder
wrote:

Personally, I don't understand the resistance to Obama's 16 month
withdrawal. *The Status of Forces agreement has us out of the cities by
June, and out of Iraq in 36 months. *Al-Maliki states an earlier
withdrawal if OK by him. *The Sunnis seemed concerned by our leaving, but
there seems to be an effort to address their issues. *I mean, Iraq is
looking relatively stable, though fragile, and we can use the manpower in
Afghanistan, where things look to be going downhill.
Afghanistan will be President Obama's Vietnam.
Gad, i love these pronouncements from Mt. Olympus. You're beginning to
sound like BAR. I thought you were a lot brighter.

Consider that in your memory, one of the mightiest militaries in the
world, couldn't keep Afghanistan under it's control

We're all aware of Afghanistan's history. Too bad Bush shot and wasted
our wad in Iraq, eh? Well, stupid is as stupid does.

Ah yes - the famous Harry Krause logic - just call everybody stupid.
--

Happy Holidays and Merry Whatever It Is
That ****es Liberals Off.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Hey! He owns some "engineered" screwdrivers, damn it. I can see it
now, everybody sitting around brainstorming. Hey, I got it! Let's
engineer something that will take that screw out of the table........

On Feb 5, 11:32*am, HK wrote:
HK wrote:
Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 11:31:26 -0500, HK wrote:

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 08:34:36 -0500, HK wrote:

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 06:11:03 -0600, thunder
wrote:

Personally, I don't understand the resistance to Obama's 16 month
withdrawal. *The Status of Forces agreement has us out of the
cities by June, and out of Iraq in 36 months. *Al-Maliki states
an earlier withdrawal if OK by him. *The Sunnis seemed concerned
by our leaving, but there seems to be an effort to address their
issues. *I mean, Iraq is looking relatively stable, though
fragile, and we can use the manpower in Afghanistan, where things
look to be going downhill.
Afghanistan will be President Obama's Vietnam.
Gad, i love these pronouncements from Mt. Olympus. You're beginning
to sound like BAR. I thought you were a lot brighter.
Consider that in your memory, one of the mightiest militaries in the
world, couldn't keep Afghanistan under it's control
We're all aware of Afghanistan's history. Too bad Bush shot and
wasted our wad in Iraq, eh? Well, stupid is as stupid does.

Ah yes - the famous Harry Krause logic - just call everybody stupid.
--

Happy Holidays and Merry Whatever It Is That ****es Liberals Off.

Well, if the foo schitts...

Bush is an idiot. Worst president ever.

Your boy bush was the ultimate disaster, and it is going to take a
series of miracles for Obama or anyone else to haul this country's ashes
out of the fire.

And what are you concerned with? Obama's failure to be perfect in every
way, as he attempts to shovel through the mountains of Bushschitt.

I'm supposed to take your carping seriously?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

"going to take a series of miracles?"

Obama.

The Messiah.

Tim wrote:
On Feb 5, 11:32 am, HK wrote:
HK wrote:
Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 11:31:26 -0500, HK wrote:
Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 08:34:36 -0500, HK wrote:
Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 06:11:03 -0600, thunder
wrote:
Personally, I don't understand the resistance to Obama's 16 month
withdrawal. The Status of Forces agreement has us out of the
cities by June, and out of Iraq in 36 months. Al-Maliki states
an earlier withdrawal if OK by him. The Sunnis seemed concerned
by our leaving, but there seems to be an effort to address their
issues. I mean, Iraq is looking relatively stable, though
fragile, and we can use the manpower in Afghanistan, where things
look to be going downhill.
Afghanistan will be President Obama's Vietnam.
Gad, i love these pronouncements from Mt. Olympus. You're beginning
to sound like BAR. I thought you were a lot brighter.
Consider that in your memory, one of the mightiest militaries in the
world, couldn't keep Afghanistan under it's control
We're all aware of Afghanistan's history. Too bad Bush shot and
wasted our wad in Iraq, eh? Well, stupid is as stupid does.
Ah yes - the famous Harry Krause logic - just call everybody stupid.
--
Happy Holidays and Merry Whatever It Is That ****es Liberals Off.
Well, if the foo schitts...
Bush is an idiot. Worst president ever.
Your boy bush was the ultimate disaster, and it is going to take a
series of miracles for Obama or anyone else to haul this country's ashes
out of the fire.

And what are you concerned with? Obama's failure to be perfect in every
way, as he attempts to shovel through the mountains of Bushschitt.

I'm supposed to take your carping seriously?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

"going to take a series of miracles?"

Obama.

The Messiah.


That's right. Bush ****ed up so badly in so many areas, it is going to
take miracles of biblical proportions to save this country.

wrote:
On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 07:54:01 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:

Afghanistan will be President Obama's Vietnam.


I heard yesterday that Russia has offered us help in Afghanistan.

Amazing the difference a few years makes.

Yeah that's the ticket. The Soviets did such a good job last time.
That's all we need, to be compared to the Soviet occupation ... more
than we are now.

Unfortunately, there is no evidence the governments of Afghanistan or
Pakistan are even interested in ridding their countries of right-wing
extremist terrorists. After all our years in Iraq, we haven't done the
job there, either. We're not going to be able to remake the Islamic
world in our image.

"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 08:34:36 -0500, HK wrote:

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 06:11:03 -0600, thunder
wrote:

Personally, I don't understand the resistance to Obama's 16 month
withdrawal. The Status of Forces agreement has us out of the cities by
June, and out of Iraq in 36 months. Al-Maliki states an earlier
withdrawal if OK by him. The Sunnis seemed concerned by our leaving,
but
there seems to be an effort to address their issues. I mean, Iraq is
looking relatively stable, though fragile, and we can use the manpower
in
Afghanistan, where things look to be going downhill.

Afghanistan will be President Obama's Vietnam.

Gad, i love these pronouncements from Mt. Olympus. You're beginning to
sound like BAR. I thought you were a lot brighter.

Consider that in your memory, one of the mightiest militaries in the
world, couldn't keep Afghanistan under it's control

The Persians couldn't do it, the Mongols couldn't go it, the British
couldn't do it, the Russians couldn't do it and in truth, we won't be
able to do it either without a massive military commitment that will
make Russia's efforts pale in comparison.

Afghanistan is a harsh and forbiddable place. In some aspects, it's a
lot like Vietnam with ready hiding places, a dedicated faith based
death cult insurgency (as opposed to an ideological based insurgency)
and no ready way to get military assets in and out without assistance
from governments who don't quite see the world the way we do.

I can't wait for all the complaints about dead soldiers in the
upcoming Afghanistan debacle that will be known as "Obama's War".

Keep your liberal fingers warmed up - I expect complaints from you
about the cost of "Obama's War" on Afghanistan.

And I'm archiving all your replies to this post just to keep you
honest. :)

--

"Never fight an inanimate object."

P.J. O'Rourke

Best comment I ever heard about Afghanistan was by a local to a TV reporter
during the Soviet's ass whupping. Good thing they are here. Otherwise we
would just be shooting each other.

On Feb 5, 2:25*pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 07:54:01 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:

Afghanistan will be President Obama's Vietnam.

I heard yesterday that Russia has offered us help in Afghanistan.

Amazing the difference a few years makes.

Yeah that's the ticket. The Soviets did such a good job last time.
That's all we need, to be compared to the Soviet occupation ... more
than we are now.

Unfortunately, there is no evidence the governments of Afghanistan or
Pakistan are even interested in ridding their countries of right-wing
extremist terrorists. After all our years in Iraq, we haven't done the
job there, either. We're not going to be able to remake the Islamic
world in our image.

You need to come out from under your desk, they just had a violence
free national election in Iraq... You mean the Huffington Hoax didn't
report it to you?

wrote:
On Feb 5, 2:25 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 07:54:01 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:
Afghanistan will be President Obama's Vietnam.
I heard yesterday that Russia has offered us help in Afghanistan.
Amazing the difference a few years makes.
Yeah that's the ticket. The Soviets did such a good job last time.
That's all we need, to be compared to the Soviet occupation ... more
than we are now.
Unfortunately, there is no evidence the governments of Afghanistan or
Pakistan are even interested in ridding their countries of right-wing
extremist terrorists. After all our years in Iraq, we haven't done the
job there, either. We're not going to be able to remake the Islamic
world in our image.

You need to come out from under your desk, they just had a violence
free national election in Iraq... You mean the Huffington Hoax didn't
report it to you?


Iraq had violence free elections before we got there .

"HK" wrote in message
...


Your boy bush was the ultimate disaster, and it is going to take a series
of miracles for Obama or anyone else to haul this country's ashes out of
the fire.

And what are you concerned with? Obama's failure to be perfect in every
way, as he attempts to shovel through the mountains of Bushschitt.

I'm supposed to take your carping seriously?


Harry, you've been running a daily anti-Bush campaign since he "stole" the
election from Al Gore nine years ago. You have never gotten over that.

That's a long time to be reading your constant, biased Bush bashing.
You have assigned blame to him for everything from bad peanut butter to
lying about WMDs. In other words, if it was bad and it happened on Bush's
watch, it's Bush's fault.

If those are the rules, then the same critical observations of Obama's
performance is in order.
It's his watch.

The reality is that many of us realize that there are a score of others that
can share the blame for the condition of the country today. Your own party
exhibits the same practices as the Repubs when they want to get their way.
Leaders of your party interpreted Intel data exactly the same way Bush and
Cheney did.

Obama is fair game for praise or criticism, just like Bush was. You
established the rules.

Eisboch