Billgran wrote:

If the dealer said to use the flusher hose and fitting under the motor's
powerhead, I'd be having a word with that dealer person. The Yamaha owners
manual, service manual, and training seminars state specifically NOT to run
the motor using it. Only run the motor with the "earmuff" type flushers
around the gearcase, preferably the dual hose feed style muffs.

Bill! How the hell are ya?



--
Regards,
Dave Brown
Brown's Marina Ltd
http://brownsmarina.com/

Billgran wrote:
"John" wrote in message
...

I called the dealer. He said to connect the hose at the flushing
attachment, but not to let the engine get over idle speed.



If the dealer said to use the flusher hose and fitting under the motor's
powerhead, I'd be having a word with that dealer person. The Yamaha owners
manual, service manual, and training seminars state specifically NOT to run
the motor using it. Only run the motor with the "earmuff" type flushers
around the gearcase, preferably the dual hose feed style muffs.

Bill Grannis
service manager




I had to buy the double sided muffs for the 115 - the single doesn't cut
it. The rectangular type seems to also work better than the round ones.
Don't know about the 90 - it's hasn't seen sal****er yet.

Gene wrote:
On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 17:53:46 -0500, "Billgran"
wrote:

"John" wrote in message
...
I called the dealer. He said to connect the hose at the flushing
attachment, but not to let the engine get over idle speed.


If the dealer said to use the flusher hose and fitting under the motor's
powerhead, I'd be having a word with that dealer person. The Yamaha owners
manual, service manual, and training seminars state specifically NOT to run
the motor using it. Only run the motor with the "earmuff" type flushers
around the gearcase, preferably the dual hose feed style muffs.

Bill Grannis
service manager



Curiosity..... why the dual hose stuff? When I had Yamahas
(admittedly, old tech) the intake was just an open galley... if there
was enough supply volume to prevent cavitation... it seemed no foul.

I have to believe that flushing scheme worked, since they served me
for 18 years and went North of the border to a new owner to do a
second tour of duty......

You would think so but it just doesn't work as well. My smaller
outboards and I/O had no trouble with the single sided muff.

On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 18:47:53 -0500, D K
wrote:

Billgran wrote:
"John" wrote in message
...

I called the dealer. He said to connect the hose at the flushing
attachment, but not to let the engine get over idle speed.



If the dealer said to use the flusher hose and fitting under the motor's
powerhead, I'd be having a word with that dealer person. The Yamaha owners
manual, service manual, and training seminars state specifically NOT to run
the motor using it. Only run the motor with the "earmuff" type flushers
around the gearcase, preferably the dual hose feed style muffs.

Bill Grannis
service manager




I had to buy the double sided muffs for the 115 - the single doesn't cut
it. The rectangular type seems to also work better than the round ones.
Don't know about the 90 - it's hasn't seen sal****er yet.

I've got the double sided muffs, the best one's West Marine sells, with
water coming to both sides. Maybe the impeller's shot. Today I'm going to
put the engine in a big garbage can, fill the can with water and start the
engine. If I don't get some water from the 'pee hole' then I'll know
something's dicked up with the enging.
--

Salmonbait

Salmonbait wrote:
On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 18:47:53 -0500, D K
wrote:

Billgran wrote:
"John" wrote in message
...

I called the dealer. He said to connect the hose at the flushing
attachment, but not to let the engine get over idle speed.


If the dealer said to use the flusher hose and fitting under the motor's
powerhead, I'd be having a word with that dealer person. The Yamaha owners
manual, service manual, and training seminars state specifically NOT to run
the motor using it. Only run the motor with the "earmuff" type flushers
around the gearcase, preferably the dual hose feed style muffs.

Bill Grannis
service manager



I had to buy the double sided muffs for the 115 - the single doesn't cut
it. The rectangular type seems to also work better than the round ones.
Don't know about the 90 - it's hasn't seen sal****er yet.

I've got the double sided muffs, the best one's West Marine sells, with
water coming to both sides. Maybe the impeller's shot. Today I'm going to
put the engine in a big garbage can, fill the can with water and start the
engine. If I don't get some water from the 'pee hole' then I'll know
something's dicked up with the enging.
--

Salmonbait
There might be something in the pee hole obstructing the flow.

Salmonbait wrote:
On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 18:47:53 -0500, D K
wrote:

Billgran wrote:
"John" wrote in message
...

I called the dealer. He said to connect the hose at the flushing
attachment, but not to let the engine get over idle speed.


If the dealer said to use the flusher hose and fitting under the motor's
powerhead, I'd be having a word with that dealer person. The Yamaha owners
manual, service manual, and training seminars state specifically NOT to run
the motor using it. Only run the motor with the "earmuff" type flushers
around the gearcase, preferably the dual hose feed style muffs.

Bill Grannis
service manager



I had to buy the double sided muffs for the 115 - the single doesn't cut
it. The rectangular type seems to also work better than the round ones.
Don't know about the 90 - it's hasn't seen sal****er yet.

I've got the double sided muffs, the best one's West Marine sells, with
water coming to both sides. Maybe the impeller's shot. Today I'm going to
put the engine in a big garbage can, fill the can with water and start the
engine. If I don't get some water from the 'pee hole' then I'll know
something's dicked up with the enging.
--

Salmonbait


Please have someone videotape your putting the engine in a big gargage can.

I don't get warm feelings of confidence from the dealer where you bought
that boat. The few times you have indicated the "advice" he has given
you, it has turned out to be "unusual." You should have bought that
Yamaha from Tri-State. If you had, by now you would know how to properly
fog the engine.

On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:13:45 -0500, Jim wrote:

Salmonbait wrote:
On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 18:47:53 -0500, D K
wrote:

Billgran wrote:
"John" wrote in message
...

I called the dealer. He said to connect the hose at the flushing
attachment, but not to let the engine get over idle speed.


If the dealer said to use the flusher hose and fitting under the motor's
powerhead, I'd be having a word with that dealer person. The Yamaha owners
manual, service manual, and training seminars state specifically NOT to run
the motor using it. Only run the motor with the "earmuff" type flushers
around the gearcase, preferably the dual hose feed style muffs.

Bill Grannis
service manager



I had to buy the double sided muffs for the 115 - the single doesn't cut
it. The rectangular type seems to also work better than the round ones.
Don't know about the 90 - it's hasn't seen sal****er yet.

I've got the double sided muffs, the best one's West Marine sells, with
water coming to both sides. Maybe the impeller's shot. Today I'm going to
put the engine in a big garbage can, fill the can with water and start the
engine. If I don't get some water from the 'pee hole' then I'll know
something's dicked up with the enging.
--

Salmonbait
There might be something in the pee hole obstructing the flow.

That's what I thought, but if I hook the hose up to the hose attachment on
the engine, water then comes out of the pee hole.

It's very confusing.
--

Salmonbait

Salmonbait wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:13:45 -0500, Jim wrote:

Salmonbait wrote:
On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 18:47:53 -0500, D K
wrote:

Billgran wrote:
"John" wrote in message
...

I called the dealer. He said to connect the hose at the flushing
attachment, but not to let the engine get over idle speed.


If the dealer said to use the flusher hose and fitting under the motor's
powerhead, I'd be having a word with that dealer person. The Yamaha owners
manual, service manual, and training seminars state specifically NOT to run
the motor using it. Only run the motor with the "earmuff" type flushers
around the gearcase, preferably the dual hose feed style muffs.

Bill Grannis
service manager



I had to buy the double sided muffs for the 115 - the single doesn't cut
it. The rectangular type seems to also work better than the round ones.
Don't know about the 90 - it's hasn't seen sal****er yet.
I've got the double sided muffs, the best one's West Marine sells, with
water coming to both sides. Maybe the impeller's shot. Today I'm going to
put the engine in a big garbage can, fill the can with water and start the
engine. If I don't get some water from the 'pee hole' then I'll know
something's dicked up with the enging.
--

Salmonbait
There might be something in the pee hole obstructing the flow.

That's what I thought, but if I hook the hose up to the hose attachment on
the engine, water then comes out of the pee hole.

It's very confusing.
--

Salmonbait

This might be a stupid question but I gotta ask. When you have the muffs
on and you are looking for water from the pee hole, is the engine running?

On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:17:52 -0500, Boater wrote:

Salmonbait wrote:
On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 18:47:53 -0500, D K
wrote:

Billgran wrote:
"John" wrote in message
...

I called the dealer. He said to connect the hose at the flushing
attachment, but not to let the engine get over idle speed.


If the dealer said to use the flusher hose and fitting under the motor's
powerhead, I'd be having a word with that dealer person. The Yamaha owners
manual, service manual, and training seminars state specifically NOT to run
the motor using it. Only run the motor with the "earmuff" type flushers
around the gearcase, preferably the dual hose feed style muffs.

Bill Grannis
service manager



I had to buy the double sided muffs for the 115 - the single doesn't cut
it. The rectangular type seems to also work better than the round ones.
Don't know about the 90 - it's hasn't seen sal****er yet.

I've got the double sided muffs, the best one's West Marine sells, with
water coming to both sides. Maybe the impeller's shot. Today I'm going to
put the engine in a big garbage can, fill the can with water and start the
engine. If I don't get some water from the 'pee hole' then I'll know
something's dicked up with the enging.
--

Salmonbait


Please have someone videotape your putting the engine in a big gargage can.

I don't get warm feelings of confidence from the dealer where you bought
that boat. The few times you have indicated the "advice" he has given
you, it has turned out to be "unusual." You should have bought that
Yamaha from Tri-State. If you had, by now you would know how to properly
fog the engine.

You are probably correct. But, Tri-State didn't sell Key West boats. The
dealer where I bought the boat is not the problem. He's down south of
Tappahanock, about two hours from here. I've been very happy with him.

The local guy is a Yamaha certified repair facility in Dumfries. I got the
name from Yamaha.

Actually, getting the lower unit in a big garbage can is not that big a
deal. Raise the engine, put the garbage can over the lower unit, lower the
engine, and fill the can with water. I don't have a video camera, but I
could take some pictures if you desire.

Now, what about personal insults and name-calling, don't you think it's
time to quit?
--

Salmonbait

Salmonbait wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:17:52 -0500, Boater wrote:

Salmonbait wrote:
On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 18:47:53 -0500, D K
wrote:

Billgran wrote:
"John" wrote in message
...

I called the dealer. He said to connect the hose at the flushing
attachment, but not to let the engine get over idle speed.


If the dealer said to use the flusher hose and fitting under the motor's
powerhead, I'd be having a word with that dealer person. The Yamaha owners
manual, service manual, and training seminars state specifically NOT to run
the motor using it. Only run the motor with the "earmuff" type flushers
around the gearcase, preferably the dual hose feed style muffs.

Bill Grannis
service manager



I had to buy the double sided muffs for the 115 - the single doesn't cut
it. The rectangular type seems to also work better than the round ones.
Don't know about the 90 - it's hasn't seen sal****er yet.
I've got the double sided muffs, the best one's West Marine sells, with
water coming to both sides. Maybe the impeller's shot. Today I'm going to
put the engine in a big garbage can, fill the can with water and start the
engine. If I don't get some water from the 'pee hole' then I'll know
something's dicked up with the enging.
--

Salmonbait

Please have someone videotape your putting the engine in a big gargage can.

I don't get warm feelings of confidence from the dealer where you bought
that boat. The few times you have indicated the "advice" he has given
you, it has turned out to be "unusual." You should have bought that
Yamaha from Tri-State. If you had, by now you would know how to properly
fog the engine.

You are probably correct. But, Tri-State didn't sell Key West boats. The
dealer where I bought the boat is not the problem. He's down south of
Tappahanock, about two hours from here. I've been very happy with him.

The local guy is a Yamaha certified repair facility in Dumfries. I got the
name from Yamaha.

Actually, getting the lower unit in a big garbage can is not that big a
deal. Raise the engine, put the garbage can over the lower unit, lower the
engine, and fill the can with water. I don't have a video camera, but I
could take some pictures if you desire.

Now, what about personal insults and name-calling, don't you think it's
time to quit?
--

Salmonbait


Oh...I thought maybe you were going to lift the engine off the boat and
mount it so its lower unit went into a garbage can, like I used to do
back in the 50's with my 1-1/2 hp Eninrude outboard and later with my
Ducktwin.

I'm "conservative" when it comes to expensive toys. I wouldn't mess
around with that engine until I knew exactly what I was doing. I watched
one of "Harvey's Lads" change the oil and filters and winterize my F150.
The side benefit is that those guys back the boat and engine into one of
the big service tanks, hook up the computer, and run the diagnostics, too.

"First...do no harm."