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Questions about the Yamaha F150 4 Stroke Outboard
Long time I/O owner here who just bought a new boat which has a 2005
model year Yamaha 4 Stroke, 15OHP Outboard with a few questions. I am looking into adding gauages that I miss from my I/O boat 1) What is the purpose of this "Water Pressure" gauge that I see on Yamaha's website? 2) How come I can not find a guage for this outboard that shows me the engine temperature like my car motor based I/O had? That sure saved my engine several times when it overheated 3) How come I can not find an Oil Pressure guage either? 4) I am told by the dealer that this engine will sound an alarrm if it starts to overheat. I guess the alarm is in the engine so is it loud enough to hear when underway? This 4 stroke OB is really quiet but at 4500 RPM, it is not exactly whispering. Winterizing/Freezing: Background: I have a winterizing 'contraption' for my I/O that holds 5 gallons of anitfreeze. You hook a garden hose to it as well as the ear muffs over the water inlet on the lower unit. Run the engine till it is warm with the water running till the thermostat is open and then you twist the valve on the thing so the engine draws antifreeze from it. Once about 4 gallons have gone through the engine and you can see the exhaust water change color to antifreeze color,the block is full of antifreeze and you turn the boat off for the season. That is for my car motor based I/O that once done, you are commited for the season. I bought this boat with an outbaord (for one reason) because I was told that there is no need to do the above and if we get one of those 50 degree day here in maryland that I could use the boat and not have the hassle of re-winterizing it. Questions: A) I was told by the dealer that all I had to do for the winter to be sure that all the water is out of the Outbaord is to make sure that the engine is in the down position when the boat is sitting on the trailer in my back yard. TRUE? A) Is it true that I do not have to run antifreeze through the motor on this Outboard to winterize it like I described above for the I/O boat? B) When the boat is in the water at my dock (I do not have a boat lift) , does all the water flow out of the motor when you tilt the Outboard all the way up such that I do not have to worry about anything freezing? I ask this because if we do get a reasonably warm weekend in the winter (very common in this state) I would like to leave the boat in the water for the weekend and am worried about freezing since at night, the air still would be below freezing Thanks for any answer to my questions. Joe |
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1. Water pressure will tell you if you are picking up water and if the
engine is cooling. Similar to a water temp/head temp guage. Normally found on outboards. 2. Engine temp guage is usually available but water pressure guage serves the same purpose for the most part. Plus the engine horn (located at the drivers station) will go off if engine overheats. 3. Oil pressure guage - not sure if available. Would be a good idea for the 4 stroke but have never seen one. 4. Alarm is at drivers station. You will hear it. A. Winterize. The outboard does not trap water in the block once the engine is lowered. Any antifreeze you put in would come right back out. No need to do it. B. If you raise the engine - it will trap water in the gearcase. Engine would drain if you wait for about a minute before you raise it. Leave the engine down. The river will not freeze and the water in the lower unit will be at river temp and will not freeze. This is what people around here do that leave their boat in the water year round. As I said, raising it will trap water in the gearcase/prop housing and will freeze. - Tony my boats and cars at http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com "Joe" wrote in message ... Long time I/O owner here who just bought a new boat which has a 2005 model year Yamaha 4 Stroke, 15OHP Outboard with a few questions. I am looking into adding gauages that I miss from my I/O boat 1) What is the purpose of this "Water Pressure" gauge that I see on Yamaha's website? 2) How come I can not find a guage for this outboard that shows me the engine temperature like my car motor based I/O had? That sure saved my engine several times when it overheated 3) How come I can not find an Oil Pressure guage either? 4) I am told by the dealer that this engine will sound an alarrm if it starts to overheat. I guess the alarm is in the engine so is it loud enough to hear when underway? This 4 stroke OB is really quiet but at 4500 RPM, it is not exactly whispering. Winterizing/Freezing: Background: I have a winterizing 'contraption' for my I/O that holds 5 gallons of anitfreeze. You hook a garden hose to it as well as the ear muffs over the water inlet on the lower unit. Run the engine till it is warm with the water running till the thermostat is open and then you twist the valve on the thing so the engine draws antifreeze from it. Once about 4 gallons have gone through the engine and you can see the exhaust water change color to antifreeze color,the block is full of antifreeze and you turn the boat off for the season. That is for my car motor based I/O that once done, you are commited for the season. I bought this boat with an outbaord (for one reason) because I was told that there is no need to do the above and if we get one of those 50 degree day here in maryland that I could use the boat and not have the hassle of re-winterizing it. Questions: A) I was told by the dealer that all I had to do for the winter to be sure that all the water is out of the Outbaord is to make sure that the engine is in the down position when the boat is sitting on the trailer in my back yard. TRUE? A) Is it true that I do not have to run antifreeze through the motor on this Outboard to winterize it like I described above for the I/O boat? B) When the boat is in the water at my dock (I do not have a boat lift) , does all the water flow out of the motor when you tilt the Outboard all the way up such that I do not have to worry about anything freezing? I ask this because if we do get a reasonably warm weekend in the winter (very common in this state) I would like to leave the boat in the water for the weekend and am worried about freezing since at night, the air still would be below freezing Thanks for any answer to my questions. Joe |
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Thanks a lot for those very concise answers.
Regarding #1 though - that is not very useful as 1) I can already simply look behind me and see a stream of water coming out from a high spot on the motor which the manual says is the indicator that the motor is getting water and 2) I have NO idea when the engine is warmed up enough to hammer it like I did on my I/O. Just like my car or the previous I/O , I don't like to accelerate hard until it is warmed up Joe On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 17:02:53 GMT, "tony thomas" wrote: 1. Water pressure will tell you if you are picking up water and if the engine is cooling. Similar to a water temp/head temp guage. Normally found on outboards. 2. Engine temp guage is usually available but water pressure guage serves the same purpose for the most part. Plus the engine horn (located at the drivers station) will go off if engine overheats. 3. Oil pressure guage - not sure if available. Would be a good idea for the 4 stroke but have never seen one. 4. Alarm is at drivers station. You will hear it. A. Winterize. The outboard does not trap water in the block once the engine is lowered. Any antifreeze you put in would come right back out. No need to do it. B. If you raise the engine - it will trap water in the gearcase. Engine would drain if you wait for about a minute before you raise it. Leave the engine down. The river will not freeze and the water in the lower unit will be at river temp and will not freeze. This is what people around here do that leave their boat in the water year round. As I said, raising it will trap water in the gearcase/prop housing and will freeze. - Tony my boats and cars at http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com "Joe" wrote in message .. . Long time I/O owner here who just bought a new boat which has a 2005 model year Yamaha 4 Stroke, 15OHP Outboard with a few questions. I am looking into adding gauages that I miss from my I/O boat 1) What is the purpose of this "Water Pressure" gauge that I see on Yamaha's website? 2) How come I can not find a guage for this outboard that shows me the engine temperature like my car motor based I/O had? That sure saved my engine several times when it overheated 3) How come I can not find an Oil Pressure guage either? 4) I am told by the dealer that this engine will sound an alarrm if it starts to overheat. I guess the alarm is in the engine so is it loud enough to hear when underway? This 4 stroke OB is really quiet but at 4500 RPM, it is not exactly whispering. Winterizing/Freezing: Background: I have a winterizing 'contraption' for my I/O that holds 5 gallons of anitfreeze. You hook a garden hose to it as well as the ear muffs over the water inlet on the lower unit. Run the engine till it is warm with the water running till the thermostat is open and then you twist the valve on the thing so the engine draws antifreeze from it. Once about 4 gallons have gone through the engine and you can see the exhaust water change color to antifreeze color,the block is full of antifreeze and you turn the boat off for the season. That is for my car motor based I/O that once done, you are commited for the season. I bought this boat with an outbaord (for one reason) because I was told that there is no need to do the above and if we get one of those 50 degree day here in maryland that I could use the boat and not have the hassle of re-winterizing it. Questions: A) I was told by the dealer that all I had to do for the winter to be sure that all the water is out of the Outbaord is to make sure that the engine is in the down position when the boat is sitting on the trailer in my back yard. TRUE? A) Is it true that I do not have to run antifreeze through the motor on this Outboard to winterize it like I described above for the I/O boat? B) When the boat is in the water at my dock (I do not have a boat lift) , does all the water flow out of the motor when you tilt the Outboard all the way up such that I do not have to worry about anything freezing? I ask this because if we do get a reasonably warm weekend in the winter (very common in this state) I would like to leave the boat in the water for the weekend and am worried about freezing since at night, the air still would be below freezing Thanks for any answer to my questions. Joe |
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I forgot to ask. Is there a moderated forum for discussion's like we
just had? I stick with moderated forums' for my various hobbies and interests. I stopped using Usenet a long time ago and I see it has not changed. This group is the typical Usenet group where it is full of completely OT bull****. Thanks, Joe On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 17:02:53 GMT, "tony thomas" wrote: 1. Water pressure will tell you if you are picking up water and if the engine is cooling. Similar to a water temp/head temp guage. Normally found on outboards. 2. Engine temp guage is usually available but water pressure guage serves the same purpose for the most part. Plus the engine horn (located at the drivers station) will go off if engine overheats. 3. Oil pressure guage - not sure if available. Would be a good idea for the 4 stroke but have never seen one. 4. Alarm is at drivers station. You will hear it. A. Winterize. The outboard does not trap water in the block once the engine is lowered. Any antifreeze you put in would come right back out. No need to do it. B. If you raise the engine - it will trap water in the gearcase. Engine would drain if you wait for about a minute before you raise it. Leave the engine down. The river will not freeze and the water in the lower unit will be at river temp and will not freeze. This is what people around here do that leave their boat in the water year round. As I said, raising it will trap water in the gearcase/prop housing and will freeze. - Tony my boats and cars at http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com "Joe" wrote in message .. . Long time I/O owner here who just bought a new boat which has a 2005 model year Yamaha 4 Stroke, 15OHP Outboard with a few questions. I am looking into adding gauages that I miss from my I/O boat 1) What is the purpose of this "Water Pressure" gauge that I see on Yamaha's website? 2) How come I can not find a guage for this outboard that shows me the engine temperature like my car motor based I/O had? That sure saved my engine several times when it overheated 3) How come I can not find an Oil Pressure guage either? 4) I am told by the dealer that this engine will sound an alarrm if it starts to overheat. I guess the alarm is in the engine so is it loud enough to hear when underway? This 4 stroke OB is really quiet but at 4500 RPM, it is not exactly whispering. Winterizing/Freezing: Background: I have a winterizing 'contraption' for my I/O that holds 5 gallons of anitfreeze. You hook a garden hose to it as well as the ear muffs over the water inlet on the lower unit. Run the engine till it is warm with the water running till the thermostat is open and then you twist the valve on the thing so the engine draws antifreeze from it. Once about 4 gallons have gone through the engine and you can see the exhaust water change color to antifreeze color,the block is full of antifreeze and you turn the boat off for the season. That is for my car motor based I/O that once done, you are commited for the season. I bought this boat with an outbaord (for one reason) because I was told that there is no need to do the above and if we get one of those 50 degree day here in maryland that I could use the boat and not have the hassle of re-winterizing it. Questions: A) I was told by the dealer that all I had to do for the winter to be sure that all the water is out of the Outbaord is to make sure that the engine is in the down position when the boat is sitting on the trailer in my back yard. TRUE? A) Is it true that I do not have to run antifreeze through the motor on this Outboard to winterize it like I described above for the I/O boat? B) When the boat is in the water at my dock (I do not have a boat lift) , does all the water flow out of the motor when you tilt the Outboard all the way up such that I do not have to worry about anything freezing? I ask this because if we do get a reasonably warm weekend in the winter (very common in this state) I would like to leave the boat in the water for the weekend and am worried about freezing since at night, the air still would be below freezing Thanks for any answer to my questions. Joe |
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I forgot to ask. Is there a moderated forum for discussion's like we
just had? I stick with moderated forums' for my various hobbies and interests. I stopped using Usenet a long time ago and I see it has not changed. IOW, "now that I've got the information that I came here for, I'd like to thank the group by observing you're a bunch of a-holes and your group really sucks compared to a moderated format." Go a moderated group, please. |
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