Salmonbait wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:58:24 -0500, Boater wrote:

BAR wrote:
Gunner Asch wrote:
On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 07:07:56 -0500, BAR wrote:

Ed Huntress wrote:
"spaco" wrote in message
.. .
Oh, I thought he meant the State Government.
I don't know about La., but my home state is Il. and it was
pretty crooked when the first Daly ran it from Chicago, and for a
long time before that. I wonder if "getting caught" is all that
separates one state from another that way?

Pete Stanaitis
We're ****ed here in NJ because we always prided ourselves in having
the most corrupt government in the land. Now the FBI tells us we're
only third.

Damn.
Has the City of Newark ever had a Mayor complete his term in office,
outside of the home for wayward government employees in Rahway?

Whats Marion Barry doing these days?
Mayor "Crackhead" Barry or Mayor "The bitch set me up" Barry? He is
serving on the city council in Washington DC
(http://www.dccouncil.us/BARRY/default.htm). He is the cat with 9 lives.


Barry as a criminal is a piker in comparison to Dick Cheney and his
gaggle of goons.

Why do you find it necessary to cross post, Harry? You complain that people
here are insulting you, yet you do things like that which invite negative
criticism.

Barry broke laws. Cheney did not.
--

Salmonbait

Ha!

Cheney simply ignored the laws he wanted to break. Cheney has done this
country great harm. Barry mostly harmed himself. It's too bad Obama has
taken payback off the table; I'd love to see a long, nasty trial of
Cheney and his cohorts, followed by some hard time for some of them.

On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 09:21:40 -0500, Boater wrote:

Salmonbait wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:58:24 -0500, Boater wrote:

BAR wrote:
Gunner Asch wrote:
On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 07:07:56 -0500, BAR wrote:

Ed Huntress wrote:
"spaco" wrote in message
.. .
Oh, I thought he meant the State Government.
I don't know about La., but my home state is Il. and it was
pretty crooked when the first Daly ran it from Chicago, and for a
long time before that. I wonder if "getting caught" is all that
separates one state from another that way?

Pete Stanaitis
We're ****ed here in NJ because we always prided ourselves in having
the most corrupt government in the land. Now the FBI tells us we're
only third.

Damn.
Has the City of Newark ever had a Mayor complete his term in office,
outside of the home for wayward government employees in Rahway?

Whats Marion Barry doing these days?
Mayor "Crackhead" Barry or Mayor "The bitch set me up" Barry? He is
serving on the city council in Washington DC
(http://www.dccouncil.us/BARRY/default.htm). He is the cat with 9 lives.


Barry as a criminal is a piker in comparison to Dick Cheney and his
gaggle of goons.

Why do you find it necessary to cross post, Harry? You complain that people
here are insulting you, yet you do things like that which invite negative
criticism.

Barry broke laws. Cheney did not.
--

Salmonbait

Ha!

Cheney simply ignored the laws he wanted to break. Cheney has done this
country great harm. Barry mostly harmed himself. It's too bad Obama has
taken payback off the table; I'd love to see a long, nasty trial of
Cheney and his cohorts, followed by some hard time for some of them.

Why do you find it necessary to cross post, Harry? You complain that people
here are insulting you, yet you do things like that which invite negative
criticism.

BTW, you missed the second half of my post: Now, what about personal
insults and name-calling, don't you think it's time to quit?

Cheney and Bush, by getting rid of Saddam, instituting a democracy in Iraq,
and highly damaged Al Qaeda have done the world a great service.

Now, show some courage and respond to the first two paragraphs.
--

Salmonbait

Boater wrote:
Salmonbait wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:58:24 -0500, Boater
wrote:

BAR wrote:
Gunner Asch wrote:
On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 07:07:56 -0500, BAR wrote:

Ed Huntress wrote:
"spaco" wrote in message
.. .
Oh, I thought he meant the State Government.
I don't know about La., but my home state is Il. and it was
pretty crooked when the first Daly ran it from Chicago, and for
a long time before that. I wonder if "getting caught" is all
that separates one state from another that way?

Pete Stanaitis
We're ****ed here in NJ because we always prided ourselves in
having the most corrupt government in the land. Now the FBI tells
us we're only third.

Damn.
Has the City of Newark ever had a Mayor complete his term in
office, outside of the home for wayward government employees in
Rahway?

Whats Marion Barry doing these days?
Mayor "Crackhead" Barry or Mayor "The bitch set me up" Barry? He is
serving on the city council in Washington DC
(http://www.dccouncil.us/BARRY/default.htm). He is the cat with 9
lives.


Barry as a criminal is a piker in comparison to Dick Cheney and his
gaggle of goons.

Why do you find it necessary to cross post, Harry? You complain that
people
here are insulting you, yet you do things like that which invite negative
criticism.
Barry broke laws. Cheney did not. --

Salmonbait

Ha!

Cheney simply ignored the laws he wanted to break. Cheney has done this
country great harm. Barry mostly harmed himself. It's too bad Obama has
taken payback off the table; I'd love to see a long, nasty trial of
Cheney and his cohorts, followed by some hard time for some of them.


Which articles of the Constitution did Cheney break?

"Ed" wrote in message
.. .
, 18 Dec 2008 07:07:56 -0500, BAR wrote:

Ed Huntress wrote:
"spaco" wrote in message
.. .
Oh, I thought he meant the State Government.
I don't know about La., but my home state is Il. and it was pretty
crooked when the first Daly ran it from Chicago, and for a long time
before that. I wonder if "getting caught" is all that separates one
state
from another that way?




I always hate OT but since I grew up in IL and went to undergrad in LA
(Tulane) I couldn't resist

IL (Actually Chicago) has ALWAYS been more corrupt than LA... since the
days of Cappone and then the first mayor Daly. They were always just
much smarter about not getting caught until the more recent years.
BTW.. the city (Chicago) always runs BETTER and more efficiently with a
corrupt mayor.

Also interesting fact (I use the word fact lightly) According to the FBI
only 48% of the murderers in the US ever serve time.... in recent history
50% of the IL Gov's will serve time.. so... you are more likely to go to
prison if you are elected as Gov of IL than if you committ MURDER!!!!
:-)

I am glad I now live in South Florida... a beautiful little Banana
republic where we expect our politicians to be on the take.... Look out
NJ... we are coming up fast in the outer lane!!! you could be #4.

nail on head

True! I am so mortified that my proud home state of NJ is getting eclipsed
by places like Illinois.

We need a PR firm for our corruption. We need better and more newsworthy
corruption.

But how do you compete when your closest neighbor elects a governor who made
his name tracking down prostitution rings, then gets caught in bed with a
skanky $1000/hour hooker?

"atlas bugged" wrote in
:

"Ed" wrote in message
.. .
, 18 Dec 2008 07:07:56 -0500, BAR wrote:

Ed Huntress wrote:
"spaco" wrote in message
.. .
Oh, I thought he meant the State Government.
I don't know about La., but my home state is Il. and it was
pretty
crooked when the first Daly ran it from Chicago, and for a long
time before that. I wonder if "getting caught" is all that
separates one state
from another that way?




I always hate OT but since I grew up in IL and went to undergrad in
LA (Tulane) I couldn't resist

IL (Actually Chicago) has ALWAYS been more corrupt than LA... since
the days of Cappone and then the first mayor Daly. They were
always just much smarter about not getting caught until the more
recent years. BTW.. the city (Chicago) always runs BETTER and more
efficiently with a corrupt mayor.

Also interesting fact (I use the word fact lightly) According to
the FBI only 48% of the murderers in the US ever serve time.... in
recent history 50% of the IL Gov's will serve time.. so... you are
more likely to go to prison if you are elected as Gov of IL than if
you committ MURDER!!!!
:-)

I am glad I now live in South Florida... a beautiful little Banana
republic where we expect our politicians to be on the take.... Look
out NJ... we are coming up fast in the outer lane!!! you could be #4.

nail on head

True! I am so mortified that my proud home state of NJ is getting
eclipsed by places like Illinois.

We need a PR firm for our corruption. We need better and more
newsworthy corruption.

But how do you compete when your closest neighbor elects a governor
who made his name tracking down prostitution rings, then gets caught
in bed with a skanky $1000/hour hooker?

You could try butt****ing yourself with an electrified garden weasel on
national TV. Get back to us (tinu) when you've tried it. I'd suggest you
do so before R. Budd Dwyer[1] comes back and beats you to it.

[1] His method is a nice option for you too!

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"john" wrote in message
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Ed Huntress wrote:

"atlas bugged" wrote in message
...

"Ed" wrote in message
t...

, 18 Dec 2008 07:07:56 -0500, BAR wrote:

Ed Huntress wrote:

"spaco" wrote in message
news:4ZOdnbfJIsqxp9TUnZ2dnUVZ_vednZ2d@brigh t.net...

Oh, I thought he meant the State Government.
I don't know about La., but my home state is Il. and it was
pretty
crooked when the first Daly ran it from Chicago, and for a long time
before that. I wonder if "getting caught" is all that separates one
state
from another that way?


I always hate OT but since I grew up in IL and went to undergrad in LA
(Tulane) I couldn't resist

IL (Actually Chicago) has ALWAYS been more corrupt than LA... since the
days of Cappone and then the first mayor Daly. They were always just
much smarter about not getting caught until the more recent years. BTW..
the city (Chicago) always runs BETTER and more efficiently with a
corrupt mayor.

Also interesting fact (I use the word fact lightly) According to the
FBI only 48% of the murderers in the US ever serve time.... in recent
history 50% of the IL Gov's will serve time.. so... you are more likely
to go to prison if you are elected as Gov of IL than if you committ
MURDER!!!! :-)

I am glad I now live in South Florida... a beautiful little Banana
republic where we expect our politicians to be on the take.... Look out
NJ... we are coming up fast in the outer lane!!! you could be #4.

nail on head

True! I am so mortified that my proud home state of NJ is getting
eclipsed by places like Illinois.

We need a PR firm for our corruption. We need better and more newsworthy
corruption.

But how do you compete when your closest neighbor elects a governor who
made his name tracking down prostitution rings, then gets caught in bed
with a skanky $1000/hour hooker?


We have our work cut out for us, all right. The trouble is that our
corrupt politicians don't think big enough. We've become small-timers in
the bigger scheme of things. Our guys think that a new cabin cruiser,
season Jets tickets, and a couple of bimbos serving drinks in the luxury
suites at Yankee Stadium is living in corrupt luxury.

What we need is politicians who know what they can command in the
marketplace. Maybe we can get them some help from MLB players' agents.

--
Ed Huntress

Ed, I think you have come up with a new profession, a corruption and take
manager for politicans. The cover name for the office is political
expiditer. Politicians themselves seem to blow it when it comes to being
on the take.


John

I still think that hiring them from the ranks of MLB players' agents is the
way to go. If they can get $82.5 million for A.J. Burnett, they can
revolutionize New Jersey's political corruption.

--
Ed Huntress

Ed Huntress wrote:
"john" wrote in message
...

Ed Huntress wrote:

"atlas bugged" wrote in message
...

"Ed" wrote in message
.. .

, 18 Dec 2008 07:07:56 -0500, BAR wrote:

Ed Huntress wrote:

"spaco" wrote in message
.. .

Oh, I thought he meant the State Government.
I don't know about La., but my home state is Il. and it was
pretty
crooked when the first Daly ran it from Chicago, and for a long time
before that. I wonder if "getting caught" is all that separates one
state
from another that way?
I always hate OT but since I grew up in IL and went to undergrad in LA
(Tulane) I couldn't resist

IL (Actually Chicago) has ALWAYS been more corrupt than LA... since the
days of Cappone and then the first mayor Daly. They were always just
much smarter about not getting caught until the more recent years. BTW..
the city (Chicago) always runs BETTER and more efficiently with a
corrupt mayor.

Also interesting fact (I use the word fact lightly) According to the
FBI only 48% of the murderers in the US ever serve time.... in recent
history 50% of the IL Gov's will serve time.. so... you are more likely
to go to prison if you are elected as Gov of IL than if you committ
MURDER!!!! :-)

I am glad I now live in South Florida... a beautiful little Banana
republic where we expect our politicians to be on the take.... Look out
NJ... we are coming up fast in the outer lane!!! you could be #4.
nail on head

True! I am so mortified that my proud home state of NJ is getting
eclipsed by places like Illinois.

We need a PR firm for our corruption. We need better and more newsworthy
corruption.

But how do you compete when your closest neighbor elects a governor who
made his name tracking down prostitution rings, then gets caught in bed
with a skanky $1000/hour hooker?

We have our work cut out for us, all right. The trouble is that our
corrupt politicians don't think big enough. We've become small-timers in
the bigger scheme of things. Our guys think that a new cabin cruiser,
season Jets tickets, and a couple of bimbos serving drinks in the luxury
suites at Yankee Stadium is living in corrupt luxury.

What we need is politicians who know what they can command in the
marketplace. Maybe we can get them some help from MLB players' agents.

--
Ed Huntress
Ed, I think you have come up with a new profession, a corruption and take
manager for politicans. The cover name for the office is political
expiditer. Politicians themselves seem to blow it when it comes to being
on the take.


John

I still think that hiring them from the ranks of MLB players' agents is the
way to go. If they can get $82.5 million for A.J. Burnett, they can
revolutionize New Jersey's political corruption.

--
Ed Huntress




I wouldn't bet my last dollar on Illinois or Lousiana being the "most
corrupt" states.

"Boater" wrote in message
...
Ed Huntress wrote:
"john" wrote in message
...

Ed Huntress wrote:

"atlas bugged" wrote in message
...

"Ed" wrote in message
.. .

, 18 Dec 2008 07:07:56 -0500, BAR wrote:

Ed Huntress wrote:

"spaco" wrote in message
.. .

Oh, I thought he meant the State Government.
I don't know about La., but my home state is Il. and it was
pretty
crooked when the first Daly ran it from Chicago, and for a long
time
before that. I wonder if "getting caught" is all that separates
one state
from another that way?
I always hate OT but since I grew up in IL and went to undergrad in
LA (Tulane) I couldn't resist

IL (Actually Chicago) has ALWAYS been more corrupt than LA... since
the days of Cappone and then the first mayor Daly. They were
always just much smarter about not getting caught until the more
recent years. BTW.. the city (Chicago) always runs BETTER and more
efficiently with a corrupt mayor.

Also interesting fact (I use the word fact lightly) According to
the FBI only 48% of the murderers in the US ever serve time.... in
recent history 50% of the IL Gov's will serve time.. so... you are
more likely to go to prison if you are elected as Gov of IL than if
you committ MURDER!!!! :-)

I am glad I now live in South Florida... a beautiful little Banana
republic where we expect our politicians to be on the take.... Look
out NJ... we are coming up fast in the outer lane!!! you could be #4.
nail on head

True! I am so mortified that my proud home state of NJ is getting
eclipsed by places like Illinois.

We need a PR firm for our corruption. We need better and more
newsworthy corruption.

But how do you compete when your closest neighbor elects a governor
who made his name tracking down prostitution rings, then gets caught
in bed with a skanky $1000/hour hooker?

We have our work cut out for us, all right. The trouble is that our
corrupt politicians don't think big enough. We've become small-timers
in the bigger scheme of things. Our guys think that a new cabin
cruiser, season Jets tickets, and a couple of bimbos serving drinks in
the luxury suites at Yankee Stadium is living in corrupt luxury.

What we need is politicians who know what they can command in the
marketplace. Maybe we can get them some help from MLB players' agents.

--
Ed Huntress
Ed, I think you have come up with a new profession, a corruption and
take manager for politicans. The cover name for the office is political
expiditer. Politicians themselves seem to blow it when it comes to
being on the take.


John

I still think that hiring them from the ranks of MLB players' agents is
the way to go. If they can get $82.5 million for A.J. Burnett, they can
revolutionize New Jersey's political corruption.

--
Ed Huntress


I wouldn't bet my last dollar on Illinois or Lousiana being the "most
corrupt" states.

I dunno. I'm still cheering for NJ. But the FBI must have some basis for
making the judgment. We'll have to ask them.

--
Ed Huntress

Ed Huntress wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
Ed Huntress wrote:
"john" wrote in message
...
Ed Huntress wrote:

"atlas bugged" wrote in message
...

"Ed" wrote in message
.. .

, 18 Dec 2008 07:07:56 -0500, BAR wrote:

Ed Huntress wrote:

"spaco" wrote in message
.. .

Oh, I thought he meant the State Government.
I don't know about La., but my home state is Il. and it was
pretty
crooked when the first Daly ran it from Chicago, and for a long
time
before that. I wonder if "getting caught" is all that separates
one state
from another that way?
I always hate OT but since I grew up in IL and went to undergrad in
LA (Tulane) I couldn't resist

IL (Actually Chicago) has ALWAYS been more corrupt than LA... since
the days of Cappone and then the first mayor Daly. They were
always just much smarter about not getting caught until the more
recent years. BTW.. the city (Chicago) always runs BETTER and more
efficiently with a corrupt mayor.

Also interesting fact (I use the word fact lightly) According to
the FBI only 48% of the murderers in the US ever serve time.... in
recent history 50% of the IL Gov's will serve time.. so... you are
more likely to go to prison if you are elected as Gov of IL than if
you committ MURDER!!!! :-)

I am glad I now live in South Florida... a beautiful little Banana
republic where we expect our politicians to be on the take.... Look
out NJ... we are coming up fast in the outer lane!!! you could be #4.
nail on head

True! I am so mortified that my proud home state of NJ is getting
eclipsed by places like Illinois.

We need a PR firm for our corruption. We need better and more
newsworthy corruption.

But how do you compete when your closest neighbor elects a governor
who made his name tracking down prostitution rings, then gets caught
in bed with a skanky $1000/hour hooker?
We have our work cut out for us, all right. The trouble is that our
corrupt politicians don't think big enough. We've become small-timers
in the bigger scheme of things. Our guys think that a new cabin
cruiser, season Jets tickets, and a couple of bimbos serving drinks in
the luxury suites at Yankee Stadium is living in corrupt luxury.

What we need is politicians who know what they can command in the
marketplace. Maybe we can get them some help from MLB players' agents.

--
Ed Huntress
Ed, I think you have come up with a new profession, a corruption and
take manager for politicans. The cover name for the office is political
expiditer. Politicians themselves seem to blow it when it comes to
being on the take.


John
I still think that hiring them from the ranks of MLB players' agents is
the way to go. If they can get $82.5 million for A.J. Burnett, they can
revolutionize New Jersey's political corruption.

--
Ed Huntress

I wouldn't bet my last dollar on Illinois or Lousiana being the "most
corrupt" states.

I dunno. I'm still cheering for NJ. But the FBI must have some basis for
making the judgment. We'll have to ask them.

--
Ed Huntress




I see no reason to trust any agency connected to the Bush Administration
Justice Department. Which is not to say I think Blago should remain in
office.

On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 11:46:48 -0500, "atlas bugged"
wrote:

"Ed" wrote in message
. ..
, 18 Dec 2008 07:07:56 -0500, BAR wrote:

Ed Huntress wrote:
"spaco" wrote in message
.. .
Oh, I thought he meant the State Government.
I don't know about La., but my home state is Il. and it was pretty
crooked when the first Daly ran it from Chicago, and for a long time
before that. I wonder if "getting caught" is all that separates one
state
from another that way?




I always hate OT but since I grew up in IL and went to undergrad in LA
(Tulane) I couldn't resist

IL (Actually Chicago) has ALWAYS been more corrupt than LA... since the
days of Cappone and then the first mayor Daly. They were always just
much smarter about not getting caught until the more recent years.
BTW.. the city (Chicago) always runs BETTER and more efficiently with a
corrupt mayor.

Also interesting fact (I use the word fact lightly) According to the FBI
only 48% of the murderers in the US ever serve time.... in recent history
50% of the IL Gov's will serve time.. so... you are more likely to go to
prison if you are elected as Gov of IL than if you committ MURDER!!!!
:-)

I am glad I now live in South Florida... a beautiful little Banana
republic where we expect our politicians to be on the take.... Look out
NJ... we are coming up fast in the outer lane!!! you could be #4.

nail on head

True! I am so mortified that my proud home state of NJ is getting eclipsed
by places like Illinois.

We need a PR firm for our corruption. We need better and more newsworthy
corruption.

But how do you compete when your closest neighbor elects a governor who made
his name tracking down prostitution rings, then gets caught in bed with a
skanky $1000/hour hooker?

http://www.nesfa.org/press/Books/Lew...ordance-R.html
[
Raumsog, Lord

Ruler of the planet Raumsog's World. He tried to attack Old Earth, bribed the
Instrumentality (this never works), imprisoned the Go-Captains, killed the
pinlighters [but, one hopes, not the partners]; he was defeated by the golden
ship. Killed on his planet.
]

[
On Earth the lords of the Instrumentality met. The presiding chairman
looked about and said, "Well, gentlemen, all of us have been bribed by
Raumsog. We have all been paid off individually. I myself received six
ounces of stroon in pure form. Will the rest of you show better bargains?"

Around the room, the councilors announced the amount of their bribes.

The chairman turned to the secretary. "Enter the bribes in the record and
then mark the record off-the-record."

The others nodded gravely.

Golden The Ship Was - Oh! Oh! Oh!:1-1 Paul Linebarger
]

[
On a very remote planet, the survivors of a Raumsog cruiser were released
from internment. By special orders, direct from Earth, their memories had
been discoordinated so that they would not reveal the pattern of defeat. An
obstinate reporter kept after one spaceman. After many hour of hard drinking
the survivor's answer was the same:

"Golden the ship was - oh! oh! oh! Golden the ship was - oh! oh! oh!"

9-1: Golden The Ship Was, Oh! Oh! Oh! by Paul Linebarger
]