Must be something in the water..
 

Boater wrote:
wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 07:56:21 -0500, Boater wrote:


Fitzgerald stated that "the president elect" was not named in the
indictment. What Fitzgerald didn't say is that "the president elect"
wasn't a figure in the investigation.



Fitz said something a bit stronger than your misquote.

Considerably stronger. However, if you read the complaint, it
appears, at least to me, that there was contact with at least
"[President-elect Advisor]". IIRC, when they are referred to as
Fundraiser A, or Individual D, they are potential defendants.
President-elect-Adviser didn't have a letter after it, meaning they
are probably clean. There is a Senate Candidate 5 that seemed to be
willing to play for pay.

The timing is somewhat interesting. I've read that, originally,
Fitzgerald wasn't going to indict Blagovich until spring, after Obama
considered his reappointment. The "seat selling" forced his hand.


Obama kept Blago at arm's length. Even so, some contact between the
offices is likely just because of the relationship between two high
ranking elected officials from the same state.

Blago's cursing about Obama's refusal to play ball says it all.

Bertie and the rest of the rightie extremists are just Sore Losers.

Sore losers? We are enjoying the political theater. Regardless of what
you say Harry, Barak Hussein Obama, he is going to use his full name to
be sworn in, has found himself mired in the a political scandal which he
is a player at some level.

Barak Hussein Obama will always be known as the guy who got caught up in
a corruption scandal before he was sworn into office as President. Some
will say that is what we get for electing a Chicago machine pol to be
President.

Must be something in the water..
 

Must be something in the water..
 

Must be something in the water..
 

wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 12:20:45 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:

http://volokh.powerblogs.com/posts/1228903890.shtml

And the SEIU is involved.

HAPPY FITZMAS!!

LOL, I think those of you on the right, are going to be just as
disappointed as those of us on the left, were at the last Fitzmas party.

The above link, seems to confirm, Obama didn't play ball. And, so far, I
haven't seen any evidence that *Obama* had any contact with the governor,
making his statement truthful.

Direct contact or indirect contact? Is there a legal difference?

Is one a crime and the other a conspiracy to commit crime?

Must be something in the water..
 

Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Boater wrote:
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 08:54:16 -0600, wrote:

Frankly, the open way Blagojevich was doing this, I'm suspecting he
is nuts. I've heard a few people thinking bi-polar.

More gifts under the Fitzmas Tree.

http://volokh.powerblogs.com/posts/1228903890.shtml

And the SEIU is involved.

HAPPY FITZMAS!!


A right-wing blog with two penis extender ads on the opening page?
Some cred.

Harry,
I hate to tell you this, but those ads are based upon the cookies on
your computer. My ads were for HDTV and IMG Direct. The PJMedia
directs ads based upon the other web sites and internet searches you do.

I wonder if anyone else got penis extender ads.

I refreshed my page to see what else I got it was:
Hertz
Amazon
Poliwood.

No sex ads what so ever.





They rotate. Look it up.

Do some research on targeted Internet advertisements. The whole idea is
to show advertisements that are of interest to the viewer.

Busted again Harry.

Must be something in the water..
 

On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 19:15:57 -0500, BAR wrote:


Direct contact or indirect contact? Is there a legal difference?

Is one a crime and the other a conspiracy to commit crime?

IANAL, but, so far, I don't see any crime that Obama was involved in.
I'm not even sure, that if he did pay for the Senate seat, if that would
be a crime. It sure as hell would be distasteful, I'm not sure about a
crime. I suspect, among politicians, *nothing* gets given away for
free. How do you think all that pork gets added to bills? "I'll vote
for your bill, if you will build me a bridge to nowhere."

Must be something in the water..
 

On Dec 10, 7:48*pm, wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 19:15:57 -0500, BAR wrote:
Direct contact or indirect contact? Is there a legal difference?

Is one a crime and the other a conspiracy to commit crime?

IANAL, but, so far, I don't see any crime that Obama was involved in. *
I'm not even sure, that if he did pay for the Senate seat, if that would
be a crime. *It sure as hell would be distasteful, I'm not sure about a
crime. *I suspect, among politicians, *nothing* gets given away for
free. *How do you think all that pork gets added to bills? *"I'll vote
for your bill, if you will build me a bridge to nowhere."

What was really funny was Daily talking about how disgusted he was in
the corruption.. He is probably just one notch above Jackson on the
most likely and deserving reciepients of a.... These two families
links to corruption are only surpassed by the Kennedys...

Must be something in the water..
 

On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 19:05:00 -0500, BAR wrote:


Somebody is going to have to explain all of the conflicting statements
and news reports stating Barak Hussein Obama met with Gov. Blagojevich
on Nov. 5th. Then he didn't meet with him. That Axelrod lied on national
TV on Nov. 23rd.

Nothing for nothing, but even *if* Axelrod lied, it's not a crime, and I
wouldn't hold the presses over a politico lying. Unfortunately, it is
what they do far too often.


Name one that has had a corruption scandal 5 weeks after the election
and 5 weeks before being sworn in?

Frankly, I still can't name one, except, possibly, the Supreme Court coup
that put GWB in office. ;-)

Must be something in the water..
 

On Dec 10, 8:01*pm, wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 19:05:00 -0500, BAR wrote:
Somebody is going to have to explain all of the conflicting statements
and news reports stating Barak Hussein Obama met with Gov. Blagojevich
on Nov. 5th. Then he didn't meet with him. That Axelrod lied on national
TV on Nov. 23rd.

Nothing for nothing, but even *if* Axelrod lied, it's not a crime, and I
wouldn't hold the presses over a politico lying. *Unfortunately, it is
what they do far too often.

Name one that has had a corruption scandal 5 weeks after the election
and 5 weeks before being sworn in?

Frankly, I still can't name one, except, possibly, the Supreme Court coup
that put GWB in office. ;-)

I never really thought you would "party line" the justification for
this obvious and blatant bad behavior and bad the continuing bad
judgment of Obama for decades... Frankly, I am surprised there
Thunder...

Must be something in the water..
 

BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 07:56:21 -0500, Boater wrote:


Fitzgerald stated that "the president elect" was not named in the
indictment. What Fitzgerald didn't say is that "the president elect"
wasn't a figure in the investigation.



Fitz said something a bit stronger than your misquote.

Considerably stronger. However, if you read the complaint, it
appears, at least to me, that there was contact with at least
"[President-elect Advisor]". IIRC, when they are referred to as
Fundraiser A, or Individual D, they are potential defendants.
President-elect-Adviser didn't have a letter after it, meaning they
are probably clean. There is a Senate Candidate 5 that seemed to be
willing to play for pay.

The timing is somewhat interesting. I've read that, originally,
Fitzgerald wasn't going to indict Blagovich until spring, after Obama
considered his reappointment. The "seat selling" forced his hand.


Obama kept Blago at arm's length. Even so, some contact between the
offices is likely just because of the relationship between two high
ranking elected officials from the same state.

Blago's cursing about Obama's refusal to play ball says it all.

Bertie and the rest of the rightie extremists are just Sore Losers.

Sore losers? We are enjoying the political theater. Regardless of what
you say Harry, Barak Hussein Obama, he is going to use his full name to
be sworn in, has found himself mired in the a political scandal which he
is a player at some level.

Barak Hussein Obama will always be known as the guy who got caught up in
a corruption scandal before he was sworn into office as President. Some
will say that is what we get for electing a Chicago machine pol to be
President.


Idiot.