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On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 09:20:27 -0500, Boater wrote:


Obama kept Blago at arm's length. Even so, some contact between the
offices is likely just because of the relationship between two high
ranking elected officials from the same state.

Blago's cursing about Obama's refusal to play ball says it all.

Yeah, I think it's a non-starter as far as Obama is concerned. The way
they refer to President-elect-Adviser, I suspect they are more likely to
be a witness, than a defendant.

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On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 09:31:04 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:


Obama pressed the Illinois Senate to override the Governor's veto on
ethics legislation - which they did.

That would seem to be a point in Obama's favor.

And, this is really going to be good, Emmanual is smack dab in the
middle of the whole thing and is the contact between Obama and
whats-his-face. Obama has already thrown Axelrod under the bus - it's
only a matter of time before he throws Emmanual under the bus - it seems
to be his modus operandi.

Am I missing something, Axelrod thrown under the bus? You are
overlooking something, the Obama team didn't play ball. More than that,
we don't know that they didn't report the corrupt SOB.

Frankly, the open way Blagojevich was doing this, I'm suspecting he is
nuts. I've heard a few people thinking bi-polar.

With the nascent war brewing between Clinton and Rice plus the whole
Gietner thing (which by the way I think is unfair to him - he did what
he could), The Lightworker is going to be very busy.

Tempest in a teapot. Rice wants her own transition team at the State
Department, so what? It makes good sense to me, the quicker they get up
an running the better. They have eight years to make up for. ;-)

The best part is that he hasn't even started in office yet. :)

It's going to be a fun four years I'll tell you what.

Heh, heh, heh...

Name a Presidential administration that hasn't had some controversy?

Must be something in the water..
 

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 08:16:47 -0600, wrote:

On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 07:56:21 -0500, Boater wrote:


Fitzgerald stated that "the president elect" was not named in the
indictment. What Fitzgerald didn't say is that "the president elect"
wasn't a figure in the investigation.



Fitz said something a bit stronger than your misquote.
Considerably stronger. However, if you read the complaint, it appears,
at least to me, that there was contact with at least "[President-elect
Advisor]". IIRC, when they are referred to as Fundraiser A, or
Individual D, they are potential defendants. President-elect-Adviser
didn't have a letter after it, meaning they are probably clean. There is
a Senate Candidate 5 that seemed to be willing to play for pay.

The timing is somewhat interesting. I've read that, originally,
Fitzgerald wasn't going to indict Blagovich until spring, after Obama
considered his reappointment. The "seat selling" forced his hand.

Actually, that was the thinking, but...

Obama pressed the Illinois Senate to override the Governor's veto on
ethics legislation - which they did.

Thus, whats-his-face had to do all his money grubbing before the
Ethics Bill became law on January 1st, 2009.

When this "pay-for-play" thing came up, he had what he needed to move
forward.

And, this is really going to be good, Emmanual is smack dab in the
middle of the whole thing and is the contact between Obama and
whats-his-face. Obama has already thrown Axelrod under the bus - it's
only a matter of time before he throws Emmanual under the bus - it
seems to be his modus operandi.

With the nascent war brewing between Clinton and Rice plus the whole
Gietner thing (which by the way I think is unfair to him - he did what
he could), The Lightworker is going to be very busy.

The best part is that he hasn't even started in office yet. :)

It's going to be a fun four years I'll tell you what.

Heh, heh, heh...


You're just too hopeful.

Must be something in the water..
 

Must be something in the water..
 

Must be something in the water..
 

Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

Blago is a *bit* over the edge, but I agree there is nothing unusual
for Illinois or anywhere else in the gubernatorial appointment of
federal officeholds to fill seats. There is always a quid pro quo,
monetary or otherwise.



Right. He's just a normal, regular guy.

Eisboch


Not at all. That's why I emphasized "bit." But it certainly is normal
for a quid pro quo in connection with a political appointment. Most of
them are not in the forms Blago wanted, but I assure you, if you get a
political appointment, someday, and that day may never come, you may be
asked to perform a service.

Hey! Ain't that how the mafia works too. They do you a favor then they
own you.

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On Dec 10, 10:20*am, wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 10:02:05 -0500, Boater
wrote:





wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 09:20:27 -0500, Boater wrote:

Obama kept Blago at arm's length. Even so, some contact between the
offices is likely just because of the relationship between two high
ranking elected officials from the same state.

Blago's cursing about Obama's refusal to play ball says it all.

Yeah, I think it's a non-starter as far as Obama is concerned. *The *way
they refer to President-elect-Adviser, I suspect they are more likely to
be a witness, than a defendant.

Well, if there is a serious criminal investigation, there's nothing
unusual about a prosecutor calling witnesses, and there's no reason to
cast aspersions on those witnesses, since, without them, the prosecutor
is pretty much dead in the water in many cases.

You'll also find that victims often have a lot of involvement in
crimes. Tommy Shortpants isn't exactly what you would call a
sophisticated thinker. He's more or less JustWhine without the COPD.- Hide quoted text -

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Yuk, yuk, yuk... P-U-S-S-Y

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On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 08:54:16 -0600, wrote:

On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 09:31:04 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:


Obama pressed the Illinois Senate to override the Governor's veto on
ethics legislation - which they did.

That would seem to be a point in Obama's favor.

And, this is really going to be good, Emmanual is smack dab in the
middle of the whole thing and is the contact between Obama and
whats-his-face. Obama has already thrown Axelrod under the bus - it's
only a matter of time before he throws Emmanual under the bus - it seems
to be his modus operandi.

Am I missing something, Axelrod thrown under the bus? You are
overlooking something, the Obama team didn't play ball. More than that,
we don't know that they didn't report the corrupt SOB.

Frankly, the open way Blagojevich was doing this, I'm suspecting he is
nuts. I've heard a few people thinking bi-polar.

With the nascent war brewing between Clinton and Rice plus the whole
Gietner thing (which by the way I think is unfair to him - he did what
he could), The Lightworker is going to be very busy.

Tempest in a teapot. Rice wants her own transition team at the State
Department, so what? It makes good sense to me, the quicker they get up
an running the better. They have eight years to make up for. ;-)

The best part is that he hasn't even started in office yet. :)

It's going to be a fun four years I'll tell you what.

Heh, heh, heh...

Name a Presidential administration that hasn't had some controversy?

Keep the faith baby. :)

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On Dec 10, 8:19*am, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 08:56:14 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Boater" wrote in message
...

You should have gone to college and learned how to think mo' betta'.

Gee. *Do ya think Blagojevich went to college?

Idiots.

Check out that hair piece he wears.

Damn thing must have cost a freakin' fortune.

he should have gotten one like Jim Traficant

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On Dec 10, 8:24*am, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 09:00:23 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

BAR wrote:

Fitzgerald stated that "the president elect" was not named in the
indictment. What Fitzgerald didn't say is that "the president elect"
wasn't a figure in the investigation.

I think there's a bunch of 'vestigatin' *going on:

"Both Obama and Blagojevich got extensive money and support from Chicago
businessman Antoin "Tony" Rezko, who is awaiting sentencing after being
convicted in June on charges of using clout with Blagojevich's
administration to help launch a $7 million kickback scheme."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081210/...nois_governor_...

Usually where's there's smoke, you will eventually find fire.

It's Fitzmas all over again!!

Only this time, he actually has something. *:)

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Kerner, Walker now Blago.

Democrats.


Ryan

Republican.


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