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Eisboch December 9th 08 04:23 PM

Must be something in the water..
 
....in Illinois.

Not only is he crooked, he's also stupid.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081209/...rruption_probe



Boater[_3_] December 9th 08 04:27 PM

Must be something in the water..
 
Eisboch wrote:
...in Illinois.

Not only is he crooked, he's also stupid.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081209/...rruption_probe




The latest in a long line of corrupt Illinois governors. Maybe it is the
water. This one seems to have set the standard, though. Sheesh.

JohnH[_4_] December 9th 08 07:05 PM

Must be something in the water..
 
On Tue, 9 Dec 2008 11:23:29 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

...in Illinois.

Not only is he crooked, he's also stupid.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081209/...rruption_probe


I looked before I posted my thread, but didn't realize this thread was on
the same topic.l

He just wanted some high-falutin' union job...and lot's of money, of
course.
--
*****Have a Spectacular Day!*****

John H

[email protected] December 9th 08 07:40 PM

Must be something in the water..
 
On Dec 9, 2:05*pm, JohnH wrote:
On Tue, 9 Dec 2008 11:23:29 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:
...in Illinois.


Not only is he crooked, he's also stupid.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081209/...vich_corruptio...


I looked before I posted my thread, but didn't realize this thread was on
the same topic.l

He just wanted some high-falutin' union job...and lot's of money, of
course.
--
*****Have a Spectacular Day!*****

* * * * * John H


He's in with Obama and the DNC... How much you want to bet it all goes
away and he gets a nice job in charge of the local FBI office,
investigative division of course;) ?

BAR[_3_] December 10th 08 12:24 AM

Must be something in the water..
 
Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
...in Illinois.

Not only is he crooked, he's also stupid.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081209/...rruption_probe




The latest in a long line of corrupt Illinois governors. Maybe it is the
water. This one seems to have set the standard, though. Sheesh.


The question is what did The Obama know and when did he know it.

Poor old The Obama hasn't even been sworn in and he is stained with
corruption surrounding the appointment of a replacement to the US Senate
seat he resigned. He may regret resigning his Senate seat before he was
sworn in a President.

[email protected] December 10th 08 12:30 AM

Must be something in the water..
 
On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 19:24:26 -0500, BAR wrote:


The question is what did The Obama know and when did he know it.

Poor old The Obama hasn't even been sworn in and he is stained with
corruption surrounding the appointment of a replacement to the US Senate
seat he resigned. He may regret resigning his Senate seat before he was
sworn in a President.


How does this stain Obama? Blagojevich has had a wire tap on him for
months. According to the prosecutor, Fitzgerald, (remember him?), Obama
has nothing to do with this.

BAR[_3_] December 10th 08 12:38 AM

Must be something in the water..
 
wrote:
On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 19:24:26 -0500, BAR wrote:


The question is what did The Obama know and when did he know it.

Poor old The Obama hasn't even been sworn in and he is stained with
corruption surrounding the appointment of a replacement to the US Senate
seat he resigned. He may regret resigning his Senate seat before he was
sworn in a President.


How does this stain Obama? Blagojevich has had a wire tap on him for
months. According to the prosecutor, Fitzgerald, (remember him?), Obama
has nothing to do with this.


You can't read can you. The Obama wasn't named in the indictment. That
doesn't mean he wasn't a figure in the investigation. You don't think
Blagojevich hasn't been planning this since Hillary bowed out?

Boater[_3_] December 10th 08 12:44 AM

Must be something in the water..
 
wrote:
On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 19:24:26 -0500, BAR wrote:


The question is what did The Obama know and when did he know it.

Poor old The Obama hasn't even been sworn in and he is stained with
corruption surrounding the appointment of a replacement to the US Senate
seat he resigned. He may regret resigning his Senate seat before he was
sworn in a President.


How does this stain Obama? Blagojevich has had a wire tap on him for
months. According to the prosecutor, Fitzgerald, (remember him?), Obama
has nothing to do with this.



Bertie is always hopeful.

[email protected] December 10th 08 12:46 AM

Must be something in the water..
 
On Dec 9, 7:38*pm, BAR wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 19:24:26 -0500, BAR wrote:


The question is what did The Obama know and when did he know it.


Poor old The Obama hasn't even been sworn in and he is stained with
corruption surrounding the appointment of a replacement to the US Senate
seat he resigned. He may regret resigning his Senate seat before he was
sworn in a President.


How does this stain Obama? *Blagojevich has had a wire tap on him for
months. *According to the prosecutor, Fitzgerald, (remember him?), Obama
has nothing to do with this.


You can't read can you. The Obama wasn't named in the indictment. That
doesn't mean he wasn't a figure in the investigation. You don't think
Blagojevich hasn't been planning this since Hillary bowed out?


There has already been a different story by Obama, and his future
Chief of staff. At the same time, the Prosecutor did note one area
where Obama clearly made statements that would probably suggest he was
not (at least over the phone) involved. Still, he was this guys main
campaign finance mgr, there are a lot of connections and of course
much more to come. The feds had to act fast to keep this dirty guy
from picking a Senator, but admit there are others involved and there
will be many more charges and indictments to come. Still several un-
named co-conspirators to be named later. Remember however, with a full
democratic congress, there will be no effective investigations from
them, only promotions to posititions of power over the police agencies
involved, al a William Jefferson or Barney Frank and Chris Dodd....

Boater[_3_] December 10th 08 12:54 AM

Must be something in the water..
 
wrote:
On Dec 9, 7:38 pm, BAR wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 19:24:26 -0500, BAR wrote:
The question is what did The Obama know and when did he know it.
Poor old The Obama hasn't even been sworn in and he is stained with
corruption surrounding the appointment of a replacement to the US Senate
seat he resigned. He may regret resigning his Senate seat before he was
sworn in a President.
How does this stain Obama? Blagojevich has had a wire tap on him for
months. According to the prosecutor, Fitzgerald, (remember him?), Obama
has nothing to do with this.

You can't read can you. The Obama wasn't named in the indictment. That
doesn't mean he wasn't a figure in the investigation. You don't think
Blagojevich hasn't been planning this since Hillary bowed out?


There has already been a different story by Obama, and his future
Chief of staff. At the same time, the Prosecutor did note one area
where Obama clearly made statements that would probably suggest he was
not (at least over the phone) involved. Still, he was this guys main
campaign finance mgr, there are a lot of connections and of course
much more to come. The feds had to act fast to keep this dirty guy
from picking a Senator, but admit there are others involved and there
will be many more charges and indictments to come. Still several un-
named co-conspirators to be named later. Remember however, with a full
democratic congress, there will be no effective investigations from
them, only promotions to posititions of power over the police agencies
involved, al a William Jefferson or Barney Frank and Chris Dodd....



Sore Loserman.

Tim December 10th 08 01:41 AM

Must be something in the water..
 
On Dec 9, 10:27*am, Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
...in Illinois.


Not only is he crooked, he's also stupid.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081209/...vich_corruptio...


The latest in a long line of corrupt Illinois governors. Maybe it is the
water. This one seems to have set the standard, though. Sheesh.


The water right out of the Chicago river. it's Dirty and it's Green!

D.Duck December 10th 08 01:52 AM

Must be something in the water..
 

"Tim" wrote in message
...
On Dec 9, 10:27 am, Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
...in Illinois.


Not only is he crooked, he's also stupid.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081209/...vich_corruptio...


The latest in a long line of corrupt Illinois governors. Maybe it is the
water. This one seems to have set the standard, though. Sheesh.


.....and it's Green!

Only on St Patty's day, 8)



Keith nuttle December 10th 08 02:03 AM

Must be something in the water..
 
BAR wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 19:24:26 -0500, BAR wrote:


The question is what did The Obama know and when did he know it.

Poor old The Obama hasn't even been sworn in and he is stained with
corruption surrounding the appointment of a replacement to the US Senate
seat he resigned. He may regret resigning his Senate seat before he was
sworn in a President.


How does this stain Obama? Blagojevich has had a wire tap on him for
months. According to the prosecutor, Fitzgerald, (remember him?),
Obama has nothing to do with this.


You can't read can you. The Obama wasn't named in the indictment. That
doesn't mean he wasn't a figure in the investigation. You don't think
Blagojevich hasn't been planning this since Hillary bowed out?

I see nothing wrong with the original question. Everything that could
possible been spun negatively about the President Bush and his
administration has started with this question.

Since the media will not asked the question I will. What did obama know
and when did he know about selling his senate seat? The American
people have the right to know!!!

Tim December 10th 08 02:06 AM

Must be something in the water..
 
On Dec 9, 7:52*pm, "D.Duck" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message

...
On Dec 9, 10:27 am, Boater wrote:

Eisboch wrote:
...in Illinois.


Not only is he crooked, he's also stupid.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081209/...vich_corruptio....


The latest in a long line of corrupt Illinois governors. Maybe it is the
water. This one seems to have set the standard, though. Sheesh.


....and it's Green!

Only on St Patty's day, 8)


No it's always green. But on SP day its REALLY GREEN.

regluar

http://www.gallagher.com/art_photos/...ridges_opt.jpg


SP Day

http://chicagopictures.net/images/ch...r_dyed_002.jpg

Tim December 10th 08 03:12 AM

Must be something in the water..
 
On Dec 9, 10:27*am, Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
...in Illinois.


Not only is he crooked, he's also stupid.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081209/...vich_corruptio...


The latest in a long line of corrupt Illinois governors. Maybe it is the
water. This one seems to have set the standard, though. Sheesh.


Only this time, Harry...

Its a Dem.


This is apopriate:


http://www.236.com/blog/w/lauren_kir...e_li_10629.php

Tim December 10th 08 03:13 AM

Must be something in the water..
 
On Dec 9, 10:23*am, "Eisboch" wrote:
...in Illinois.

Not only is he crooked, he's also stupid.


That's what made him a great sock-puppet for Mayor Daley.

BAR[_3_] December 10th 08 03:45 AM

Must be something in the water..
 
Boater wrote:
wrote:
On Dec 9, 7:38 pm, BAR wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 19:24:26 -0500, BAR wrote:
The question is what did The Obama know and when did he know it.
Poor old The Obama hasn't even been sworn in and he is stained with
corruption surrounding the appointment of a replacement to the US
Senate
seat he resigned. He may regret resigning his Senate seat before he
was
sworn in a President.
How does this stain Obama? Blagojevich has had a wire tap on him for
months. According to the prosecutor, Fitzgerald, (remember him?),
Obama
has nothing to do with this.
You can't read can you. The Obama wasn't named in the indictment. That
doesn't mean he wasn't a figure in the investigation. You don't think
Blagojevich hasn't been planning this since Hillary bowed out?


There has already been a different story by Obama, and his future
Chief of staff. At the same time, the Prosecutor did note one area
where Obama clearly made statements that would probably suggest he was
not (at least over the phone) involved. Still, he was this guys main
campaign finance mgr, there are a lot of connections and of course
much more to come. The feds had to act fast to keep this dirty guy
from picking a Senator, but admit there are others involved and there
will be many more charges and indictments to come. Still several un-
named co-conspirators to be named later. Remember however, with a full
democratic congress, there will be no effective investigations from
them, only promotions to posititions of power over the police agencies
involved, al a William Jefferson or Barney Frank and Chris Dodd....



Sore Loserman.


"Sore Loserman" what is that supposed to mean?

It is sad and funny at the same time that The Obama and Rahm Emanuel are
embroiled in this, let's call it a, controversy before The Obama's
administration begins.

Boater[_3_] December 10th 08 03:51 AM

Must be something in the water..
 
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
wrote:
On Dec 9, 7:38 pm, BAR wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 19:24:26 -0500, BAR wrote:
The question is what did The Obama know and when did he know it.
Poor old The Obama hasn't even been sworn in and he is stained with
corruption surrounding the appointment of a replacement to the US
Senate
seat he resigned. He may regret resigning his Senate seat before
he was
sworn in a President.
How does this stain Obama? Blagojevich has had a wire tap on him for
months. According to the prosecutor, Fitzgerald, (remember him?),
Obama
has nothing to do with this.
You can't read can you. The Obama wasn't named in the indictment. That
doesn't mean he wasn't a figure in the investigation. You don't think
Blagojevich hasn't been planning this since Hillary bowed out?

There has already been a different story by Obama, and his future
Chief of staff. At the same time, the Prosecutor did note one area
where Obama clearly made statements that would probably suggest he was
not (at least over the phone) involved. Still, he was this guys main
campaign finance mgr, there are a lot of connections and of course
much more to come. The feds had to act fast to keep this dirty guy
from picking a Senator, but admit there are others involved and there
will be many more charges and indictments to come. Still several un-
named co-conspirators to be named later. Remember however, with a full
democratic congress, there will be no effective investigations from
them, only promotions to posititions of power over the police agencies
involved, al a William Jefferson or Barney Frank and Chris Dodd....



Sore Loserman.


"Sore Loserman" what is that supposed to mean?

It is sad and funny at the same time that The Obama and Rahm Emanuel are
embroiled in this, let's call it a, controversy before The Obama's
administration begins.



What is means is that JustHate doesn't know his ass from a hole in the
ground, other than to try to punk Obama and, of course, neither do you.

Your ticket lost. Palin isn't going to save you now or in the future.
We're finishing up eight years with a really dumb president, and all
Palin represents is more that "same." While I hope simple-minded Sarah
is the GOP nominee in 2012, I really don't think even the GOP will be
stupid enough to pick her.


BAR[_3_] December 10th 08 04:03 AM

Must be something in the water..
 
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
wrote:
On Dec 9, 7:38 pm, BAR wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 19:24:26 -0500, BAR wrote:
The question is what did The Obama know and when did he know it.
Poor old The Obama hasn't even been sworn in and he is stained with
corruption surrounding the appointment of a replacement to the US
Senate
seat he resigned. He may regret resigning his Senate seat before
he was
sworn in a President.
How does this stain Obama? Blagojevich has had a wire tap on him for
months. According to the prosecutor, Fitzgerald, (remember him?),
Obama
has nothing to do with this.
You can't read can you. The Obama wasn't named in the indictment. That
doesn't mean he wasn't a figure in the investigation. You don't think
Blagojevich hasn't been planning this since Hillary bowed out?

There has already been a different story by Obama, and his future
Chief of staff. At the same time, the Prosecutor did note one area
where Obama clearly made statements that would probably suggest he was
not (at least over the phone) involved. Still, he was this guys main
campaign finance mgr, there are a lot of connections and of course
much more to come. The feds had to act fast to keep this dirty guy
from picking a Senator, but admit there are others involved and there
will be many more charges and indictments to come. Still several un-
named co-conspirators to be named later. Remember however, with a full
democratic congress, there will be no effective investigations from
them, only promotions to posititions of power over the police agencies
involved, al a William Jefferson or Barney Frank and Chris Dodd....


Sore Loserman.


"Sore Loserman" what is that supposed to mean?

It is sad and funny at the same time that The Obama and Rahm Emanuel
are embroiled in this, let's call it a, controversy before The Obama's
administration begins.



What is means is that JustHate doesn't know his ass from a hole in the
ground, other than to try to punk Obama and, of course, neither do you.


Punk The Obama? He has punked himself. Axelrod said he was talking to
Balgojevich about his replacement on TV a couple of weeks ago and The
Obama said that he hadn't talked to Blagojevich. Hence the question who
is the liar? You are the expert on that subject aren't you?

The Obama is out of his league, playing politics, on the national stage
is going to be his undoing.

Your ticket lost. Palin isn't going to save you now or in the future.
We're finishing up eight years with a really dumb president, and all
Palin represents is more that "same." While I hope simple-minded Sarah
is the GOP nominee in 2012, I really don't think even the GOP will be
stupid enough to pick her.


Are you in love with Gov. Palin?

It seems that every time a Democrat administrations gets close to or
into the White House the scandal parade starts. The fear on the Democrat
side is that this is just the first act.

Boater[_3_] December 10th 08 11:00 AM

Must be something in the water..
 
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
wrote:
On Dec 9, 7:38 pm, BAR wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 19:24:26 -0500, BAR wrote:
The question is what did The Obama know and when did he know it.
Poor old The Obama hasn't even been sworn in and he is stained with
corruption surrounding the appointment of a replacement to the
US Senate
seat he resigned. He may regret resigning his Senate seat before
he was
sworn in a President.
How does this stain Obama? Blagojevich has had a wire tap on him
for
months. According to the prosecutor, Fitzgerald, (remember
him?), Obama
has nothing to do with this.
You can't read can you. The Obama wasn't named in the indictment.
That
doesn't mean he wasn't a figure in the investigation. You don't think
Blagojevich hasn't been planning this since Hillary bowed out?

There has already been a different story by Obama, and his future
Chief of staff. At the same time, the Prosecutor did note one area
where Obama clearly made statements that would probably suggest he was
not (at least over the phone) involved. Still, he was this guys main
campaign finance mgr, there are a lot of connections and of course
much more to come. The feds had to act fast to keep this dirty guy
from picking a Senator, but admit there are others involved and there
will be many more charges and indictments to come. Still several un-
named co-conspirators to be named later. Remember however, with a full
democratic congress, there will be no effective investigations from
them, only promotions to posititions of power over the police agencies
involved, al a William Jefferson or Barney Frank and Chris Dodd....


Sore Loserman.

"Sore Loserman" what is that supposed to mean?

It is sad and funny at the same time that The Obama and Rahm Emanuel
are embroiled in this, let's call it a, controversy before The
Obama's administration begins.



What is means is that JustHate doesn't know his ass from a hole in the
ground, other than to try to punk Obama and, of course, neither do you.


Punk The Obama? He has punked himself. Axelrod said he was talking to
Balgojevich about his replacement on TV a couple of weeks ago and The
Obama said that he hadn't talked to Blagojevich. Hence the question who
is the liar? You are the expert on that subject aren't you?

The Obama is out of his league, playing politics, on the national stage
is going to be his undoing.


Why don't you enroll in Montgomery Community College and take a civics
course? If there is any sort of intellectual underpinning to a
conversation, *you* are out of your league. It would do you a lot more
good than playing golf with the idiot known as Herring.

BAR[_3_] December 10th 08 12:11 PM

Must be something in the water..
 
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:

What is means is that JustHate doesn't know his ass from a hole in
the ground, other than to try to punk Obama and, of course, neither
do you.


Punk The Obama? He has punked himself. Axelrod said he was talking to
Balgojevich about his replacement on TV a couple of weeks ago and The
Obama said that he hadn't talked to Blagojevich. Hence the question
who is the liar? You are the expert on that subject aren't you?

The Obama is out of his league, playing politics, on the national
stage is going to be his undoing.


Why don't you enroll in Montgomery Community College and take a civics
course? If there is any sort of intellectual underpinning to a
conversation, *you* are out of your league. It would do you a lot more
good than playing golf with the idiot known as Herring.


What's the matter Harry the cloud of corruption has appeared above The
Obama's head just prior to him taking office and will stay with him
during his entire 4 years in office, if he lasts that long. The
lingering question will be what did he know and when did he know it.
And, when will David Axlerod fall on his sword?


Vic Smith December 10th 08 12:18 PM

Must be something in the water..
 
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 07:11:27 -0500, BAR wrote:

Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:

What is means is that JustHate doesn't know his ass from a hole in
the ground, other than to try to punk Obama and, of course, neither
do you.

Punk The Obama? He has punked himself. Axelrod said he was talking to
Balgojevich about his replacement on TV a couple of weeks ago and The
Obama said that he hadn't talked to Blagojevich. Hence the question
who is the liar? You are the expert on that subject aren't you?

The Obama is out of his league, playing politics, on the national
stage is going to be his undoing.


Why don't you enroll in Montgomery Community College and take a civics
course? If there is any sort of intellectual underpinning to a
conversation, *you* are out of your league. It would do you a lot more
good than playing golf with the idiot known as Herring.


What's the matter Harry the cloud of corruption has appeared above The
Obama's head just prior to him taking office and will stay with him
during his entire 4 years in office, if he lasts that long. The
lingering question will be what did he know and when did he know it.
And, when will David Axlerod fall on his sword?


What's the big deal here?
I still don't get why the FBI goody 2-shoes got their panties in a
wad.
So Blago wants something back for appointing a Senator.
Big effing deal. This ain't no stinkin' election.
It's Blago's choice. That's the law.
Blago's clean, and he'll beat the rap.
Probably get re-elected too.
Maybe I'm wrong, but that's one way to look at it.
Politics ain't beanball.

--Vic

Boater[_3_] December 10th 08 12:39 PM

Must be something in the water..
 
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:

What is means is that JustHate doesn't know his ass from a hole in
the ground, other than to try to punk Obama and, of course, neither
do you.

Punk The Obama? He has punked himself. Axelrod said he was talking to
Balgojevich about his replacement on TV a couple of weeks ago and The
Obama said that he hadn't talked to Blagojevich. Hence the question
who is the liar? You are the expert on that subject aren't you?

The Obama is out of his league, playing politics, on the national
stage is going to be his undoing.


Why don't you enroll in Montgomery Community College and take a civics
course? If there is any sort of intellectual underpinning to a
conversation, *you* are out of your league. It would do you a lot
more good than playing golf with the idiot known as Herring.


What's the matter Harry the cloud of corruption has appeared above The
Obama's head just prior to him taking office and will stay with him
during his entire 4 years in office, if he lasts that long. The
lingering question will be what did he know and when did he know it.
And, when will David Axlerod fall on his sword?



Nyuk, nyuk, nyuk. The cloud is in the mind of the right-wing
trash...like you.

Boater[_3_] December 10th 08 12:42 PM

Must be something in the water..
 
Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 07:11:27 -0500, BAR wrote:

Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
What is means is that JustHate doesn't know his ass from a hole in
the ground, other than to try to punk Obama and, of course, neither
do you.
Punk The Obama? He has punked himself. Axelrod said he was talking to
Balgojevich about his replacement on TV a couple of weeks ago and The
Obama said that he hadn't talked to Blagojevich. Hence the question
who is the liar? You are the expert on that subject aren't you?

The Obama is out of his league, playing politics, on the national
stage is going to be his undoing.

Why don't you enroll in Montgomery Community College and take a civics
course? If there is any sort of intellectual underpinning to a
conversation, *you* are out of your league. It would do you a lot more
good than playing golf with the idiot known as Herring.

What's the matter Harry the cloud of corruption has appeared above The
Obama's head just prior to him taking office and will stay with him
during his entire 4 years in office, if he lasts that long. The
lingering question will be what did he know and when did he know it.
And, when will David Axlerod fall on his sword?


What's the big deal here?
I still don't get why the FBI goody 2-shoes got their panties in a
wad.
So Blago wants something back for appointing a Senator.
Big effing deal. This ain't no stinkin' election.
It's Blago's choice. That's the law.
Blago's clean, and he'll beat the rap.
Probably get re-elected too.
Maybe I'm wrong, but that's one way to look at it.
Politics ain't beanball.

--Vic



Blago is a *bit* over the edge, but I agree there is nothing unusual for
Illinois or anywhere else in the gubernatorial appointment of federal
officeholds to fill seats. There is always a quid pro quo, monetary or
otherwise.


BAR[_3_] December 10th 08 12:51 PM

Must be something in the water..
 
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:

What is means is that JustHate doesn't know his ass from a hole in
the ground, other than to try to punk Obama and, of course, neither
do you.

Punk The Obama? He has punked himself. Axelrod said he was talking
to Balgojevich about his replacement on TV a couple of weeks ago and
The Obama said that he hadn't talked to Blagojevich. Hence the
question who is the liar? You are the expert on that subject aren't
you?

The Obama is out of his league, playing politics, on the national
stage is going to be his undoing.


Why don't you enroll in Montgomery Community College and take a
civics course? If there is any sort of intellectual underpinning to a
conversation, *you* are out of your league. It would do you a lot
more good than playing golf with the idiot known as Herring.


What's the matter Harry the cloud of corruption has appeared above The
Obama's head just prior to him taking office and will stay with him
during his entire 4 years in office, if he lasts that long. The
lingering question will be what did he know and when did he know it.
And, when will David Axlerod fall on his sword?



Nyuk, nyuk, nyuk. The cloud is in the mind of the right-wing
trash...like you.


I see you haven't awoken from your wet dream of the night of November
4th yet.

Fitzgerald stated that "the president elect" was not named in the
indictment. What Fitzgerald didn't say is that "the president elect"
wasn't a figure in the investigation.

Axelrod says on national TV that The Obama has communicated with
Governor Blagojevich regarding who should replace The Obama in the
Senate seat that The Obama vacated.

The Obama says on national TV that he, The Obama, has not talked with
Governor Blagojevich regarding who should replace him.

Axelrod has one of his underlings come out and state that Axelrod
misspoke. Why couldn't Axelrod state that he misspoke himself? Sounds
like Axelrod is preserving his ability to tell Fitzgerald the truth when
he is deposed. If there is anything that Scooter Libby taught everyone
it is to keep your mouth shut and speak through surrogates.

And, Axelrod's appearances on any upcoming talking head shows have just
been canceled for the foreseeable future.



Boater[_3_] December 10th 08 12:56 PM

Must be something in the water..
 
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:

What is means is that JustHate doesn't know his ass from a hole in
the ground, other than to try to punk Obama and, of course,
neither do you.

Punk The Obama? He has punked himself. Axelrod said he was talking
to Balgojevich about his replacement on TV a couple of weeks ago
and The Obama said that he hadn't talked to Blagojevich. Hence the
question who is the liar? You are the expert on that subject aren't
you?

The Obama is out of his league, playing politics, on the national
stage is going to be his undoing.


Why don't you enroll in Montgomery Community College and take a
civics course? If there is any sort of intellectual underpinning to
a conversation, *you* are out of your league. It would do you a lot
more good than playing golf with the idiot known as Herring.

What's the matter Harry the cloud of corruption has appeared above
The Obama's head just prior to him taking office and will stay with
him during his entire 4 years in office, if he lasts that long. The
lingering question will be what did he know and when did he know it.
And, when will David Axlerod fall on his sword?



Nyuk, nyuk, nyuk. The cloud is in the mind of the right-wing
trash...like you.


I see you haven't awoken from your wet dream of the night of November
4th yet.

Fitzgerald stated that "the president elect" was not named in the
indictment. What Fitzgerald didn't say is that "the president elect"
wasn't a figure in the investigation.



Fitz said something a bit stronger than your misquote.

BAR[_3_] December 10th 08 01:01 PM

Must be something in the water..
 
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:

What is means is that JustHate doesn't know his ass from a hole
in the ground, other than to try to punk Obama and, of course,
neither do you.

Punk The Obama? He has punked himself. Axelrod said he was talking
to Balgojevich about his replacement on TV a couple of weeks ago
and The Obama said that he hadn't talked to Blagojevich. Hence the
question who is the liar? You are the expert on that subject
aren't you?

The Obama is out of his league, playing politics, on the national
stage is going to be his undoing.


Why don't you enroll in Montgomery Community College and take a
civics course? If there is any sort of intellectual underpinning to
a conversation, *you* are out of your league. It would do you a
lot more good than playing golf with the idiot known as Herring.

What's the matter Harry the cloud of corruption has appeared above
The Obama's head just prior to him taking office and will stay with
him during his entire 4 years in office, if he lasts that long. The
lingering question will be what did he know and when did he know it.
And, when will David Axlerod fall on his sword?



Nyuk, nyuk, nyuk. The cloud is in the mind of the right-wing
trash...like you.


I see you haven't awoken from your wet dream of the night of November
4th yet.

Fitzgerald stated that "the president elect" was not named in the
indictment. What Fitzgerald didn't say is that "the president elect"
wasn't a figure in the investigation.



Fitz said something a bit stronger than your misquote.


Feel free to quote Fitz.

I notice you didn't take issue with my statements regarding Axelrod. I
think his career in public is finished.

Boater[_3_] December 10th 08 01:17 PM

Must be something in the water..
 
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:

What is means is that JustHate doesn't know his ass from a hole
in the ground, other than to try to punk Obama and, of course,
neither do you.

Punk The Obama? He has punked himself. Axelrod said he was
talking to Balgojevich about his replacement on TV a couple of
weeks ago and The Obama said that he hadn't talked to
Blagojevich. Hence the question who is the liar? You are the
expert on that subject aren't you?

The Obama is out of his league, playing politics, on the national
stage is going to be his undoing.


Why don't you enroll in Montgomery Community College and take a
civics course? If there is any sort of intellectual underpinning
to a conversation, *you* are out of your league. It would do you
a lot more good than playing golf with the idiot known as Herring.

What's the matter Harry the cloud of corruption has appeared above
The Obama's head just prior to him taking office and will stay with
him during his entire 4 years in office, if he lasts that long. The
lingering question will be what did he know and when did he know
it. And, when will David Axlerod fall on his sword?



Nyuk, nyuk, nyuk. The cloud is in the mind of the right-wing
trash...like you.

I see you haven't awoken from your wet dream of the night of November
4th yet.

Fitzgerald stated that "the president elect" was not named in the
indictment. What Fitzgerald didn't say is that "the president elect"
wasn't a figure in the investigation.



Fitz said something a bit stronger than your misquote.


Feel free to quote Fitz.

I notice you didn't take issue with my statements regarding Axelrod. I
think his career in public is finished.



D'uh. Because I don't "engage" you or the other right-wing turds on a
particular subjects only means that I didn't engage you. It doesn't mean
I agree with you. You should have gone to college and learned how to
think mo' betta'.

Eisboch December 10th 08 01:53 PM

Must be something in the water..
 

"Boater" wrote in message
...


Blago is a *bit* over the edge, but I agree there is nothing unusual for
Illinois or anywhere else in the gubernatorial appointment of federal
officeholds to fill seats. There is always a quid pro quo, monetary or
otherwise.



Right. He's just a normal, regular guy.

Eisboch



BAR[_3_] December 10th 08 01:55 PM

Must be something in the water..
 
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:

What is means is that JustHate doesn't know his ass from a hole
in the ground, other than to try to punk Obama and, of course,
neither do you.

Punk The Obama? He has punked himself. Axelrod said he was
talking to Balgojevich about his replacement on TV a couple of
weeks ago and The Obama said that he hadn't talked to
Blagojevich. Hence the question who is the liar? You are the
expert on that subject aren't you?

The Obama is out of his league, playing politics, on the
national stage is going to be his undoing.


Why don't you enroll in Montgomery Community College and take a
civics course? If there is any sort of intellectual underpinning
to a conversation, *you* are out of your league. It would do you
a lot more good than playing golf with the idiot known as Herring.

What's the matter Harry the cloud of corruption has appeared above
The Obama's head just prior to him taking office and will stay
with him during his entire 4 years in office, if he lasts that
long. The lingering question will be what did he know and when did
he know it. And, when will David Axlerod fall on his sword?



Nyuk, nyuk, nyuk. The cloud is in the mind of the right-wing
trash...like you.

I see you haven't awoken from your wet dream of the night of
November 4th yet.

Fitzgerald stated that "the president elect" was not named in the
indictment. What Fitzgerald didn't say is that "the president elect"
wasn't a figure in the investigation.



Fitz said something a bit stronger than your misquote.


Feel free to quote Fitz.

I notice you didn't take issue with my statements regarding Axelrod. I
think his career in public is finished.



D'uh. Because I don't "engage" you or the other right-wing turds on a
particular subjects only means that I didn't engage you. It doesn't mean
I agree with you. You should have gone to college and learned how to
think mo' betta'.


You are a cherry picker. You pick and choose the items that suite your
issue of the day. If the item contradicts your issue then you ignore it.

BTW, where is you outrage at Gov. Blagojevich's attempt at government
censorship of the free press? I notice that you have conveniently
ignored this issue altogether.


Eisboch December 10th 08 01:56 PM

Must be something in the water..
 

"Boater" wrote in message
...

You should have gone to college and learned how to think mo' betta'.


Gee. Do ya think Blagojevich went to college?

Idiots.

Eisboch



Boater[_3_] December 10th 08 01:56 PM

Must be something in the water..
 
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

Blago is a *bit* over the edge, but I agree there is nothing unusual for
Illinois or anywhere else in the gubernatorial appointment of federal
officeholds to fill seats. There is always a quid pro quo, monetary or
otherwise.



Right. He's just a normal, regular guy.

Eisboch



Not at all. That's why I emphasized "bit." But it certainly is normal
for a quid pro quo in connection with a political appointment. Most of
them are not in the forms Blago wanted, but I assure you, if you get a
political appointment, someday, and that day may never come, you may be
asked to perform a service.


Eisboch December 10th 08 02:00 PM

Must be something in the water..
 

BAR wrote:

Fitzgerald stated that "the president elect" was not named in the
indictment. What Fitzgerald didn't say is that "the president elect"
wasn't a figure in the investigation.



I think there's a bunch of 'vestigatin' going on:

"Both Obama and Blagojevich got extensive money and support from Chicago
businessman Antoin "Tony" Rezko, who is awaiting sentencing after being
convicted in June on charges of using clout with Blagojevich's
administration to help launch a $7 million kickback scheme."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081210/...ernor_analysis

Usually where's there's smoke, you will eventually find fire.

Eisboch



Boater[_3_] December 10th 08 02:04 PM

Must be something in the water..
 
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:

What is means is that JustHate doesn't know his ass from a
hole in the ground, other than to try to punk Obama and, of
course, neither do you.

Punk The Obama? He has punked himself. Axelrod said he was
talking to Balgojevich about his replacement on TV a couple of
weeks ago and The Obama said that he hadn't talked to
Blagojevich. Hence the question who is the liar? You are the
expert on that subject aren't you?

The Obama is out of his league, playing politics, on the
national stage is going to be his undoing.


Why don't you enroll in Montgomery Community College and take a
civics course? If there is any sort of intellectual underpinning
to a conversation, *you* are out of your league. It would do
you a lot more good than playing golf with the idiot known as
Herring.

What's the matter Harry the cloud of corruption has appeared
above The Obama's head just prior to him taking office and will
stay with him during his entire 4 years in office, if he lasts
that long. The lingering question will be what did he know and
when did he know it. And, when will David Axlerod fall on his sword?



Nyuk, nyuk, nyuk. The cloud is in the mind of the right-wing
trash...like you.

I see you haven't awoken from your wet dream of the night of
November 4th yet.

Fitzgerald stated that "the president elect" was not named in the
indictment. What Fitzgerald didn't say is that "the president
elect" wasn't a figure in the investigation.



Fitz said something a bit stronger than your misquote.

Feel free to quote Fitz.

I notice you didn't take issue with my statements regarding Axelrod.
I think his career in public is finished.



D'uh. Because I don't "engage" you or the other right-wing turds on a
particular subjects only means that I didn't engage you. It doesn't
mean I agree with you. You should have gone to college and learned how
to think mo' betta'.


You are a cherry picker. You pick and choose the items that suite your
issue of the day. If the item contradicts your issue then you ignore it.

BTW, where is you outrage at Gov. Blagojevich's attempt at government
censorship of the free press? I notice that you have conveniently
ignored this issue altogether.



Actually, I tend to ignore those issues you and the other righties bring
up that I classify as nonsense. I certainly do pick and chose the topics
that interest me, though. I don't hesitate to comment on posts that
contradict my positions if the subject interests me and the post in
question isn't your sort of nonsense.

If you are referring to Blago's attempts to purge the editorial board of
the Trib, I believe it was more personal than governmental.

Sadly, the Trib has fallen into the hands of a corporate raider. Which
has nothing to do with Blago.

[email protected] December 10th 08 02:16 PM

Must be something in the water..
 
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 07:56:21 -0500, Boater wrote:


Fitzgerald stated that "the president elect" was not named in the
indictment. What Fitzgerald didn't say is that "the president elect"
wasn't a figure in the investigation.



Fitz said something a bit stronger than your misquote.


Considerably stronger. However, if you read the complaint, it appears,
at least to me, that there was contact with at least "[President-elect
Advisor]". IIRC, when they are referred to as Fundraiser A, or
Individual D, they are potential defendants. President-elect-Adviser
didn't have a letter after it, meaning they are probably clean. There is
a Senate Candidate 5 that seemed to be willing to play for pay.

The timing is somewhat interesting. I've read that, originally,
Fitzgerald wasn't going to indict Blagovich until spring, after Obama
considered his reappointment. The "seat selling" forced his hand.

Tom Francis - SWSports December 10th 08 02:19 PM

Must be something in the water..
 
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 08:56:14 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Boater" wrote in message
...

You should have gone to college and learned how to think mo' betta'.


Gee. Do ya think Blagojevich went to college?

Idiots.


Check out that hair piece he wears.

Damn thing must have cost a freakin' fortune.

Boater[_3_] December 10th 08 02:20 PM

Must be something in the water..
 
wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 07:56:21 -0500, Boater wrote:


Fitzgerald stated that "the president elect" was not named in the
indictment. What Fitzgerald didn't say is that "the president elect"
wasn't a figure in the investigation.



Fitz said something a bit stronger than your misquote.


Considerably stronger. However, if you read the complaint, it appears,
at least to me, that there was contact with at least "[President-elect
Advisor]". IIRC, when they are referred to as Fundraiser A, or
Individual D, they are potential defendants. President-elect-Adviser
didn't have a letter after it, meaning they are probably clean. There is
a Senate Candidate 5 that seemed to be willing to play for pay.

The timing is somewhat interesting. I've read that, originally,
Fitzgerald wasn't going to indict Blagovich until spring, after Obama
considered his reappointment. The "seat selling" forced his hand.



Obama kept Blago at arm's length. Even so, some contact between the
offices is likely just because of the relationship between two high
ranking elected officials from the same state.

Blago's cursing about Obama's refusal to play ball says it all.

Bertie and the rest of the rightie extremists are just Sore Losers.

Tom Francis - SWSports December 10th 08 02:24 PM

Must be something in the water..
 
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 09:00:23 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


BAR wrote:

Fitzgerald stated that "the president elect" was not named in the
indictment. What Fitzgerald didn't say is that "the president elect"
wasn't a figure in the investigation.



I think there's a bunch of 'vestigatin' going on:

"Both Obama and Blagojevich got extensive money and support from Chicago
businessman Antoin "Tony" Rezko, who is awaiting sentencing after being
convicted in June on charges of using clout with Blagojevich's
administration to help launch a $7 million kickback scheme."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081210/...ernor_analysis

Usually where's there's smoke, you will eventually find fire.


It's Fitzmas all over again!!

Only this time, he actually has something. :)

And it's not Republicans for a change.

Tom Francis - SWSports December 10th 08 02:31 PM

Must be something in the water..
 
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 08:16:47 -0600, wrote:

On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 07:56:21 -0500, Boater wrote:


Fitzgerald stated that "the president elect" was not named in the
indictment. What Fitzgerald didn't say is that "the president elect"
wasn't a figure in the investigation.



Fitz said something a bit stronger than your misquote.


Considerably stronger. However, if you read the complaint, it appears,
at least to me, that there was contact with at least "[President-elect
Advisor]". IIRC, when they are referred to as Fundraiser A, or
Individual D, they are potential defendants. President-elect-Adviser
didn't have a letter after it, meaning they are probably clean. There is
a Senate Candidate 5 that seemed to be willing to play for pay.

The timing is somewhat interesting. I've read that, originally,
Fitzgerald wasn't going to indict Blagovich until spring, after Obama
considered his reappointment. The "seat selling" forced his hand.


Actually, that was the thinking, but...

Obama pressed the Illinois Senate to override the Governor's veto on
ethics legislation - which they did.

Thus, whats-his-face had to do all his money grubbing before the
Ethics Bill became law on January 1st, 2009.

When this "pay-for-play" thing came up, he had what he needed to move
forward.

And, this is really going to be good, Emmanual is smack dab in the
middle of the whole thing and is the contact between Obama and
whats-his-face. Obama has already thrown Axelrod under the bus - it's
only a matter of time before he throws Emmanual under the bus - it
seems to be his modus operandi.

With the nascent war brewing between Clinton and Rice plus the whole
Gietner thing (which by the way I think is unfair to him - he did what
he could), The Lightworker is going to be very busy.

The best part is that he hasn't even started in office yet. :)

It's going to be a fun four years I'll tell you what.

Heh, heh, heh...

Vic Smith December 10th 08 02:33 PM

Must be something in the water..
 
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 08:53:26 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Boater" wrote in message
...


Blago is a *bit* over the edge, but I agree there is nothing unusual for
Illinois or anywhere else in the gubernatorial appointment of federal
officeholds to fill seats. There is always a quid pro quo, monetary or
otherwise.



Right. He's just a normal, regular guy.

Probably pretty normal as far as pols go.
Fitzgerald is after him, and this might be a replay of when Jim
Thompson, a fed prosecutor, went after Gov Otto Kerner and
nailed him for some typical pol influence trading. Then *he* became
the gov.
Most of these guys in office are dirty.
Put a tap on Dodd, and you might be surprised his public persona
is a load of crap. Or maybe not.
Where I draw the line is personal profit and endangering/screwing the
public.
There was Sec of State in Illinois who died - maybe 30 years ago.
A guy cleaning the dead pol's hotel room found a suitcase stuffed with
almost a million in cash. It became a big joke around here.

--Vic


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