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Eisboch December 10th 08 01:56 PM

Must be something in the water..
 

"Boater" wrote in message
...

You should have gone to college and learned how to think mo' betta'.


Gee. Do ya think Blagojevich went to college?

Idiots.

Eisboch



Boater[_3_] December 10th 08 01:56 PM

Must be something in the water..
 
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

Blago is a *bit* over the edge, but I agree there is nothing unusual for
Illinois or anywhere else in the gubernatorial appointment of federal
officeholds to fill seats. There is always a quid pro quo, monetary or
otherwise.



Right. He's just a normal, regular guy.

Eisboch



Not at all. That's why I emphasized "bit." But it certainly is normal
for a quid pro quo in connection with a political appointment. Most of
them are not in the forms Blago wanted, but I assure you, if you get a
political appointment, someday, and that day may never come, you may be
asked to perform a service.


Eisboch December 10th 08 02:00 PM

Must be something in the water..
 

BAR wrote:

Fitzgerald stated that "the president elect" was not named in the
indictment. What Fitzgerald didn't say is that "the president elect"
wasn't a figure in the investigation.



I think there's a bunch of 'vestigatin' going on:

"Both Obama and Blagojevich got extensive money and support from Chicago
businessman Antoin "Tony" Rezko, who is awaiting sentencing after being
convicted in June on charges of using clout with Blagojevich's
administration to help launch a $7 million kickback scheme."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081210/...ernor_analysis

Usually where's there's smoke, you will eventually find fire.

Eisboch



Boater[_3_] December 10th 08 02:04 PM

Must be something in the water..
 
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
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Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
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Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:

What is means is that JustHate doesn't know his ass from a
hole in the ground, other than to try to punk Obama and, of
course, neither do you.

Punk The Obama? He has punked himself. Axelrod said he was
talking to Balgojevich about his replacement on TV a couple of
weeks ago and The Obama said that he hadn't talked to
Blagojevich. Hence the question who is the liar? You are the
expert on that subject aren't you?

The Obama is out of his league, playing politics, on the
national stage is going to be his undoing.


Why don't you enroll in Montgomery Community College and take a
civics course? If there is any sort of intellectual underpinning
to a conversation, *you* are out of your league. It would do
you a lot more good than playing golf with the idiot known as
Herring.

What's the matter Harry the cloud of corruption has appeared
above The Obama's head just prior to him taking office and will
stay with him during his entire 4 years in office, if he lasts
that long. The lingering question will be what did he know and
when did he know it. And, when will David Axlerod fall on his sword?



Nyuk, nyuk, nyuk. The cloud is in the mind of the right-wing
trash...like you.

I see you haven't awoken from your wet dream of the night of
November 4th yet.

Fitzgerald stated that "the president elect" was not named in the
indictment. What Fitzgerald didn't say is that "the president
elect" wasn't a figure in the investigation.



Fitz said something a bit stronger than your misquote.

Feel free to quote Fitz.

I notice you didn't take issue with my statements regarding Axelrod.
I think his career in public is finished.



D'uh. Because I don't "engage" you or the other right-wing turds on a
particular subjects only means that I didn't engage you. It doesn't
mean I agree with you. You should have gone to college and learned how
to think mo' betta'.


You are a cherry picker. You pick and choose the items that suite your
issue of the day. If the item contradicts your issue then you ignore it.

BTW, where is you outrage at Gov. Blagojevich's attempt at government
censorship of the free press? I notice that you have conveniently
ignored this issue altogether.



Actually, I tend to ignore those issues you and the other righties bring
up that I classify as nonsense. I certainly do pick and chose the topics
that interest me, though. I don't hesitate to comment on posts that
contradict my positions if the subject interests me and the post in
question isn't your sort of nonsense.

If you are referring to Blago's attempts to purge the editorial board of
the Trib, I believe it was more personal than governmental.

Sadly, the Trib has fallen into the hands of a corporate raider. Which
has nothing to do with Blago.

[email protected] December 10th 08 02:16 PM

Must be something in the water..
 
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 07:56:21 -0500, Boater wrote:


Fitzgerald stated that "the president elect" was not named in the
indictment. What Fitzgerald didn't say is that "the president elect"
wasn't a figure in the investigation.



Fitz said something a bit stronger than your misquote.


Considerably stronger. However, if you read the complaint, it appears,
at least to me, that there was contact with at least "[President-elect
Advisor]". IIRC, when they are referred to as Fundraiser A, or
Individual D, they are potential defendants. President-elect-Adviser
didn't have a letter after it, meaning they are probably clean. There is
a Senate Candidate 5 that seemed to be willing to play for pay.

The timing is somewhat interesting. I've read that, originally,
Fitzgerald wasn't going to indict Blagovich until spring, after Obama
considered his reappointment. The "seat selling" forced his hand.

Tom Francis - SWSports December 10th 08 02:19 PM

Must be something in the water..
 
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 08:56:14 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Boater" wrote in message
...

You should have gone to college and learned how to think mo' betta'.


Gee. Do ya think Blagojevich went to college?

Idiots.


Check out that hair piece he wears.

Damn thing must have cost a freakin' fortune.

Boater[_3_] December 10th 08 02:20 PM

Must be something in the water..
 
wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 07:56:21 -0500, Boater wrote:


Fitzgerald stated that "the president elect" was not named in the
indictment. What Fitzgerald didn't say is that "the president elect"
wasn't a figure in the investigation.



Fitz said something a bit stronger than your misquote.


Considerably stronger. However, if you read the complaint, it appears,
at least to me, that there was contact with at least "[President-elect
Advisor]". IIRC, when they are referred to as Fundraiser A, or
Individual D, they are potential defendants. President-elect-Adviser
didn't have a letter after it, meaning they are probably clean. There is
a Senate Candidate 5 that seemed to be willing to play for pay.

The timing is somewhat interesting. I've read that, originally,
Fitzgerald wasn't going to indict Blagovich until spring, after Obama
considered his reappointment. The "seat selling" forced his hand.



Obama kept Blago at arm's length. Even so, some contact between the
offices is likely just because of the relationship between two high
ranking elected officials from the same state.

Blago's cursing about Obama's refusal to play ball says it all.

Bertie and the rest of the rightie extremists are just Sore Losers.

Tom Francis - SWSports December 10th 08 02:24 PM

Must be something in the water..
 
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 09:00:23 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


BAR wrote:

Fitzgerald stated that "the president elect" was not named in the
indictment. What Fitzgerald didn't say is that "the president elect"
wasn't a figure in the investigation.



I think there's a bunch of 'vestigatin' going on:

"Both Obama and Blagojevich got extensive money and support from Chicago
businessman Antoin "Tony" Rezko, who is awaiting sentencing after being
convicted in June on charges of using clout with Blagojevich's
administration to help launch a $7 million kickback scheme."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081210/...ernor_analysis

Usually where's there's smoke, you will eventually find fire.


It's Fitzmas all over again!!

Only this time, he actually has something. :)

And it's not Republicans for a change.

Tom Francis - SWSports December 10th 08 02:31 PM

Must be something in the water..
 
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 08:16:47 -0600, wrote:

On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 07:56:21 -0500, Boater wrote:


Fitzgerald stated that "the president elect" was not named in the
indictment. What Fitzgerald didn't say is that "the president elect"
wasn't a figure in the investigation.



Fitz said something a bit stronger than your misquote.


Considerably stronger. However, if you read the complaint, it appears,
at least to me, that there was contact with at least "[President-elect
Advisor]". IIRC, when they are referred to as Fundraiser A, or
Individual D, they are potential defendants. President-elect-Adviser
didn't have a letter after it, meaning they are probably clean. There is
a Senate Candidate 5 that seemed to be willing to play for pay.

The timing is somewhat interesting. I've read that, originally,
Fitzgerald wasn't going to indict Blagovich until spring, after Obama
considered his reappointment. The "seat selling" forced his hand.


Actually, that was the thinking, but...

Obama pressed the Illinois Senate to override the Governor's veto on
ethics legislation - which they did.

Thus, whats-his-face had to do all his money grubbing before the
Ethics Bill became law on January 1st, 2009.

When this "pay-for-play" thing came up, he had what he needed to move
forward.

And, this is really going to be good, Emmanual is smack dab in the
middle of the whole thing and is the contact between Obama and
whats-his-face. Obama has already thrown Axelrod under the bus - it's
only a matter of time before he throws Emmanual under the bus - it
seems to be his modus operandi.

With the nascent war brewing between Clinton and Rice plus the whole
Gietner thing (which by the way I think is unfair to him - he did what
he could), The Lightworker is going to be very busy.

The best part is that he hasn't even started in office yet. :)

It's going to be a fun four years I'll tell you what.

Heh, heh, heh...

Vic Smith December 10th 08 02:33 PM

Must be something in the water..
 
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 08:53:26 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Boater" wrote in message
...


Blago is a *bit* over the edge, but I agree there is nothing unusual for
Illinois or anywhere else in the gubernatorial appointment of federal
officeholds to fill seats. There is always a quid pro quo, monetary or
otherwise.



Right. He's just a normal, regular guy.

Probably pretty normal as far as pols go.
Fitzgerald is after him, and this might be a replay of when Jim
Thompson, a fed prosecutor, went after Gov Otto Kerner and
nailed him for some typical pol influence trading. Then *he* became
the gov.
Most of these guys in office are dirty.
Put a tap on Dodd, and you might be surprised his public persona
is a load of crap. Or maybe not.
Where I draw the line is personal profit and endangering/screwing the
public.
There was Sec of State in Illinois who died - maybe 30 years ago.
A guy cleaning the dead pol's hotel room found a suitcase stuffed with
almost a million in cash. It became a big joke around here.

--Vic


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