wrote:
On Dec 10, 2:54 pm, Boater wrote:
wrote:
On Dec 10, 2:04 pm, Boater wrote:
John wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 09:33:59 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 08:58:47 -0500, BAR wrote:
True I didn't go to too many different places, I spent most of my time
near Virginia Beach, VA and Emerald Isle/Atlantic Beach, NC. Not bad
duty huh?
Freakin' Hollywood Marines.
Bad as Squids. :)
But he was still a Marine.
A lot more than those with the derogatory comments can say.
Hey, John Herring, tell us how your military experience has made you
into a better person and a real Christian, as evidenced by your posts here.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
As usual, you come in uninformed... For instance, you don't have to be
"good" to be a Christian, you only have to believe. Now go ahead and
tell me where I am wrong, and while you are at it, tell us about your
Lobsta' boat!
Oh, there must be more than that to being a Christian, although if it is
that easy, it certainly explains many of horrors committed by "good"
Christians.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yup, as many as by "good" Muslims, or "good" Jews.. Those folks who
commit horrors are only considered "good' by themselves and their
followers.. Unlike "good" liberals from the looney left who are pretty
much the mainstream, you know, intolerant, selfish, and lacking any
real moral core..


There are lots of rules "good Jews" have to follow in order to be
considered good Jews.

I suspect your understanding of Christianity is suspect. I've had the
privilege of some friendly discussions the last few years with some nuns
and priests in academia, and in addition to exchanging pleasantries, we
do discuss what a "good" Christian would say or do under various
scenarios. Though I am not a Christian, I agreed completely with the
nuns that there are rules for being a good Christian, and they go way
beyond simply "believing."

The other day here I mentioned the Sermon on the Mount. Following those
precepts and rules probably is a good start.

Boater wrote:
wrote:
On Dec 10, 2:54 pm, Boater wrote:
wrote:
On Dec 10, 2:04 pm, Boater wrote:
John wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 09:33:59 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 08:58:47 -0500, BAR wrote:
True I didn't go to too many different places, I spent most of
my time
near Virginia Beach, VA and Emerald Isle/Atlantic Beach, NC. Not
bad
duty huh?
Freakin' Hollywood Marines.
Bad as Squids. :)
But he was still a Marine.
A lot more than those with the derogatory comments can say.
Hey, John Herring, tell us how your military experience has made you
into a better person and a real Christian, as evidenced by your
posts here.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
As usual, you come in uninformed... For instance, you don't have to be
"good" to be a Christian, you only have to believe. Now go ahead and
tell me where I am wrong, and while you are at it, tell us about your
Lobsta' boat!
Oh, there must be more than that to being a Christian, although if it is
that easy, it certainly explains many of horrors committed by "good"
Christians.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yup, as many as by "good" Muslims, or "good" Jews.. Those folks who
commit horrors are only considered "good' by themselves and their
followers.. Unlike "good" liberals from the looney left who are pretty
much the mainstream, you know, intolerant, selfish, and lacking any
real moral core..


There are lots of rules "good Jews" have to follow in order to be
considered good Jews.

I suspect your understanding of Christianity is suspect. I've had the
privilege of some friendly discussions the last few years with some nuns
and priests in academia, and in addition to exchanging pleasantries, we
do discuss what a "good" Christian would say or do under various
scenarios. Though I am not a Christian, I agreed completely with the
nuns that there are rules for being a good Christian, and they go way
beyond simply "believing."

I think you are getting Catholics and Protestants confused. They are not
one in the same.

The other day here I mentioned the Sermon on the Mount. Following those
precepts and rules probably is a good start.

Depends upon your Creed.

BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
wrote:
On Dec 10, 2:54 pm, Boater wrote:
wrote:
On Dec 10, 2:04 pm, Boater wrote:
John wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 09:33:59 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 08:58:47 -0500, BAR wrote:
True I didn't go to too many different places, I spent most of
my time
near Virginia Beach, VA and Emerald Isle/Atlantic Beach, NC.
Not bad
duty huh?
Freakin' Hollywood Marines.
Bad as Squids. :)
But he was still a Marine.
A lot more than those with the derogatory comments can say.
Hey, John Herring, tell us how your military experience has made you
into a better person and a real Christian, as evidenced by your
posts here.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
As usual, you come in uninformed... For instance, you don't have to be
"good" to be a Christian, you only have to believe. Now go ahead and
tell me where I am wrong, and while you are at it, tell us about your
Lobsta' boat!
Oh, there must be more than that to being a Christian, although if
it is
that easy, it certainly explains many of horrors committed by "good"
Christians.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yup, as many as by "good" Muslims, or "good" Jews.. Those folks who
commit horrors are only considered "good' by themselves and their
followers.. Unlike "good" liberals from the looney left who are pretty
much the mainstream, you know, intolerant, selfish, and lacking any
real moral core..


There are lots of rules "good Jews" have to follow in order to be
considered good Jews.

I suspect your understanding of Christianity is suspect. I've had the
privilege of some friendly discussions the last few years with some
nuns and priests in academia, and in addition to exchanging
pleasantries, we do discuss what a "good" Christian would say or do
under various scenarios. Though I am not a Christian, I agreed
completely with the nuns that there are rules for being a good
Christian, and they go way beyond simply "believing."

I think you are getting Catholics and Protestants confused. They are not
one in the same.

The other day here I mentioned the Sermon on the Mount. Following
those precepts and rules probably is a good start.

Depends upon your Creed.

Well, if Protestants can behave anyway they want in life, so long as
they "believe" Jesus is their saviour, then it is, at best, an amoral
religion.

I understand the Protestants engage in Christianization in Central and
South America. Kinda makes one want to puke.

Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
wrote:
On Dec 10, 2:54 pm, Boater wrote:
wrote:
On Dec 10, 2:04 pm, Boater wrote:
John wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 09:33:59 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 08:58:47 -0500, BAR wrote:
True I didn't go to too many different places, I spent most of
my time
near Virginia Beach, VA and Emerald Isle/Atlantic Beach, NC.
Not bad
duty huh?
Freakin' Hollywood Marines.
Bad as Squids. :)
But he was still a Marine.
A lot more than those with the derogatory comments can say.
Hey, John Herring, tell us how your military experience has made you
into a better person and a real Christian, as evidenced by your
posts here.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
As usual, you come in uninformed... For instance, you don't have
to be
"good" to be a Christian, you only have to believe. Now go ahead and
tell me where I am wrong, and while you are at it, tell us about your
Lobsta' boat!
Oh, there must be more than that to being a Christian, although if
it is
that easy, it certainly explains many of horrors committed by "good"
Christians.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yup, as many as by "good" Muslims, or "good" Jews.. Those folks who
commit horrors are only considered "good' by themselves and their
followers.. Unlike "good" liberals from the looney left who are pretty
much the mainstream, you know, intolerant, selfish, and lacking any
real moral core..


There are lots of rules "good Jews" have to follow in order to be
considered good Jews.

I suspect your understanding of Christianity is suspect. I've had the
privilege of some friendly discussions the last few years with some
nuns and priests in academia, and in addition to exchanging
pleasantries, we do discuss what a "good" Christian would say or do
under various scenarios. Though I am not a Christian, I agreed
completely with the nuns that there are rules for being a good
Christian, and they go way beyond simply "believing."

I think you are getting Catholics and Protestants confused. They are
not one in the same.

The other day here I mentioned the Sermon on the Mount. Following
those precepts and rules probably is a good start.

Depends upon your Creed.

Well, if Protestants can behave anyway they want in life, so long as
they "believe" Jesus is their saviour, then it is, at best, an amoral
religion.

I understand the Protestants engage in Christianization in Central and
South America. Kinda makes one want to puke.

Your nuns and priests were the first to convert the masses in Central
and South America as well as Asia. Does that make you want to puke as well?

BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
wrote:
On Dec 10, 2:54 pm, Boater wrote:
wrote:
On Dec 10, 2:04 pm, Boater wrote:
John wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 09:33:59 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 08:58:47 -0500, BAR
wrote:
True I didn't go to too many different places, I spent most
of my time
near Virginia Beach, VA and Emerald Isle/Atlantic Beach, NC.
Not bad
duty huh?
Freakin' Hollywood Marines.
Bad as Squids. :)
But he was still a Marine.
A lot more than those with the derogatory comments can say.
Hey, John Herring, tell us how your military experience has made
you
into a better person and a real Christian, as evidenced by your
posts here.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
As usual, you come in uninformed... For instance, you don't have
to be
"good" to be a Christian, you only have to believe. Now go ahead and
tell me where I am wrong, and while you are at it, tell us about
your
Lobsta' boat!
Oh, there must be more than that to being a Christian, although if
it is
that easy, it certainly explains many of horrors committed by "good"
Christians.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yup, as many as by "good" Muslims, or "good" Jews.. Those folks who
commit horrors are only considered "good' by themselves and their
followers.. Unlike "good" liberals from the looney left who are pretty
much the mainstream, you know, intolerant, selfish, and lacking any
real moral core..


There are lots of rules "good Jews" have to follow in order to be
considered good Jews.

I suspect your understanding of Christianity is suspect. I've had
the privilege of some friendly discussions the last few years with
some nuns and priests in academia, and in addition to exchanging
pleasantries, we do discuss what a "good" Christian would say or do
under various scenarios. Though I am not a Christian, I agreed
completely with the nuns that there are rules for being a good
Christian, and they go way beyond simply "believing."

I think you are getting Catholics and Protestants confused. They are
not one in the same.

The other day here I mentioned the Sermon on the Mount. Following
those precepts and rules probably is a good start.

Depends upon your Creed.

Well, if Protestants can behave anyway they want in life, so long as
they "believe" Jesus is their saviour, then it is, at best, an amoral
religion.

I understand the Protestants engage in Christianization in Central and
South America. Kinda makes one want to puke.

Your nuns and priests were the first to convert the masses in Central
and South America as well as Asia. Does that make you want to puke as well?


*My* nuns and priests? I'm not Catholic.

Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
wrote:
On Dec 10, 2:54 pm, Boater wrote:
wrote:
On Dec 10, 2:04 pm, Boater wrote:
John wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 09:33:59 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 08:58:47 -0500, BAR
wrote:
True I didn't go to too many different places, I spent most
of my time
near Virginia Beach, VA and Emerald Isle/Atlantic Beach, NC.
Not bad
duty huh?
Freakin' Hollywood Marines.
Bad as Squids. :)
But he was still a Marine.
A lot more than those with the derogatory comments can say.
Hey, John Herring, tell us how your military experience has
made you
into a better person and a real Christian, as evidenced by your
posts here.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
As usual, you come in uninformed... For instance, you don't have
to be
"good" to be a Christian, you only have to believe. Now go ahead
and
tell me where I am wrong, and while you are at it, tell us about
your
Lobsta' boat!
Oh, there must be more than that to being a Christian, although
if it is
that easy, it certainly explains many of horrors committed by "good"
Christians.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yup, as many as by "good" Muslims, or "good" Jews.. Those folks who
commit horrors are only considered "good' by themselves and their
followers.. Unlike "good" liberals from the looney left who are
pretty
much the mainstream, you know, intolerant, selfish, and lacking any
real moral core..


There are lots of rules "good Jews" have to follow in order to be
considered good Jews.

I suspect your understanding of Christianity is suspect. I've had
the privilege of some friendly discussions the last few years with
some nuns and priests in academia, and in addition to exchanging
pleasantries, we do discuss what a "good" Christian would say or do
under various scenarios. Though I am not a Christian, I agreed
completely with the nuns that there are rules for being a good
Christian, and they go way beyond simply "believing."

I think you are getting Catholics and Protestants confused. They are
not one in the same.

The other day here I mentioned the Sermon on the Mount. Following
those precepts and rules probably is a good start.

Depends upon your Creed.

Well, if Protestants can behave anyway they want in life, so long as
they "believe" Jesus is their saviour, then it is, at best, an amoral
religion.

I understand the Protestants engage in Christianization in Central
and South America. Kinda makes one want to puke.

Your nuns and priests were the first to convert the masses in Central
and South America as well as Asia. Does that make you want to puke as
well?


*My* nuns and priests? I'm not Catholic.

Ok, you anal retentive prig. The nuns and priests in academia you with
which you discussed the subject of a "good" Christian.

BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
wrote:
On Dec 10, 2:54 pm, Boater wrote:
wrote:
On Dec 10, 2:04 pm, Boater wrote:
John wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 09:33:59 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 08:58:47 -0500, BAR
wrote:
True I didn't go to too many different places, I spent most
of my time
near Virginia Beach, VA and Emerald Isle/Atlantic Beach,
NC. Not bad
duty huh?
Freakin' Hollywood Marines.
Bad as Squids. :)
But he was still a Marine.
A lot more than those with the derogatory comments can say.
Hey, John Herring, tell us how your military experience has
made you
into a better person and a real Christian, as evidenced by
your posts here.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
As usual, you come in uninformed... For instance, you don't
have to be
"good" to be a Christian, you only have to believe. Now go
ahead and
tell me where I am wrong, and while you are at it, tell us
about your
Lobsta' boat!
Oh, there must be more than that to being a Christian, although
if it is
that easy, it certainly explains many of horrors committed by
"good"
Christians.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yup, as many as by "good" Muslims, or "good" Jews.. Those folks who
commit horrors are only considered "good' by themselves and their
followers.. Unlike "good" liberals from the looney left who are
pretty
much the mainstream, you know, intolerant, selfish, and lacking any
real moral core..


There are lots of rules "good Jews" have to follow in order to be
considered good Jews.

I suspect your understanding of Christianity is suspect. I've had
the privilege of some friendly discussions the last few years with
some nuns and priests in academia, and in addition to exchanging
pleasantries, we do discuss what a "good" Christian would say or
do under various scenarios. Though I am not a Christian, I agreed
completely with the nuns that there are rules for being a good
Christian, and they go way beyond simply "believing."

I think you are getting Catholics and Protestants confused. They
are not one in the same.

The other day here I mentioned the Sermon on the Mount. Following
those precepts and rules probably is a good start.

Depends upon your Creed.

Well, if Protestants can behave anyway they want in life, so long as
they "believe" Jesus is their saviour, then it is, at best, an
amoral religion.

I understand the Protestants engage in Christianization in Central
and South America. Kinda makes one want to puke.

Your nuns and priests were the first to convert the masses in Central
and South America as well as Asia. Does that make you want to puke as
well?


*My* nuns and priests? I'm not Catholic.

Ok, you anal retentive prig. The nuns and priests in academia you with
which you discussed the subject of a "good" Christian.


The nuns and priests I met with aren't involved in Christianization in
Central and South America.

On Dec 10, 3:14*pm, Boater wrote:
wrote:
On Dec 10, 2:54 pm, Boater wrote:
wrote:
On Dec 10, 2:04 pm, Boater wrote:
John wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 09:33:59 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 08:58:47 -0500, BAR wrote:
True I didn't go to too many different places, I spent most of my time
near Virginia Beach, VA and Emerald Isle/Atlantic Beach, NC. Not bad
duty huh?
Freakin' Hollywood Marines.
Bad as Squids. * :)
But he was still a Marine.
A lot more than those with the derogatory comments can say.
Hey, John Herring, tell us how your military experience has made you
into a better person and a real Christian, as evidenced by your posts here.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
As usual, you come in uninformed... For instance, you don't have to be
"good" to be a Christian, you only have to believe. Now go ahead and
tell me where I am wrong, and while you are at it, tell us about your
Lobsta' boat!
Oh, there must be more than that to being a Christian, although if it is
that easy, it certainly explains many of horrors committed by "good"
Christians.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yup, as many as by "good" Muslims, or "good" Jews.. Those folks who
commit horrors are only considered "good' by themselves and their
followers.. Unlike "good" liberals from the looney left who are pretty
much the mainstream, you know, intolerant, selfish, and lacking any
real moral core..

There are lots of rules "good Jews" have to follow in order to be
considered good Jews.

I suspect your understanding of Christianity is suspect. I've had the
privilege of some friendly discussions the last few years with some nuns
and priests in academia, and in addition to exchanging pleasantries, we
do discuss what a "good" Christian would say or do under various
scenarios. Though I am not a Christian, I agreed completely with the
nuns that there are rules for being a good Christian, and they go way
beyond simply "believing."

The other day here I mentioned the Sermon on the Mount. Following those
precepts and rules probably is a good start.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

This is how you twist and take out of context.. I never said I was a
"good" Christian, don't think John did either... Either way, most
Christians know there is no perfect Christian, and any Christian,
academic or otherwise that does not leave judgement of such to the
Lord is just an idiot and a hypocrite. And of course "you agree with
the nuns", however based on your history and the ideology, it's a non
starter as the alleged conversation probably never happened. Again, if
you really understood Christianity, you would know that. Now tell us
again about "Jesus on a stick at Christmas" Pffftttt... you are full
of ****, as usual...

On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 20:29:19 -0800 (PST),
wrote:



Yup, as many as by "good" Muslims, or "good" Jews.. Those folks who
commit horrors are only considered "good' by themselves and their
followers.. Unlike "good" liberals from the looney left who are pretty
much the mainstream, you know, intolerant, selfish, and lacking any
real moral core..

There are lots of rules "good Jews" have to follow in order to be
considered good Jews.

I suspect your understanding of Christianity is suspect. I've had the
privilege of some friendly discussions the last few years with some nuns
and priests in academia, and in addition to exchanging pleasantries, we
do discuss what a "good" Christian would say or do under various
scenarios. Though I am not a Christian, I agreed completely with the
nuns that there are rules for being a good Christian, and they go way
beyond simply "believing."

The other day here I mentioned the Sermon on the Mount. Following those
precepts and rules probably is a good start.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

This is how you twist and take out of context.. I never said I was a
"good" Christian, don't think John did either... Either way, most
Christians know there is no perfect Christian, and any Christian,
academic or otherwise that does not leave judgement of such to the
Lord is just an idiot and a hypocrite. And of course "you agree with
the nuns", however based on your history and the ideology, it's a non
starter as the alleged conversation probably never happened. Again, if
you really understood Christianity, you would know that. Now tell us
again about "Jesus on a stick at Christmas" Pffftttt... you are full
of ****, as usual...

Harry is basing his guess about my religion on a couple Christmas carols I
posted here. He has no idea if I even go to church.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgdHjWPuCrI

Now he'll probably start putting down my Jewish faith.

Remember, this is the guy with the Maryland Red barn (and lots of guns in
his desk), and a 3/4 mile driveway, and five acres of yard to mow. I
wouldn't't mess with him if I were you.

Besides, if you look at the last three days, you'll see that the boy
answers you more if you *don't* talk to him!
--
John

John wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 20:29:19 -0800 (PST),
wrote:


Yup, as many as by "good" Muslims, or "good" Jews.. Those folks who
commit horrors are only considered "good' by themselves and their
followers.. Unlike "good" liberals from the looney left who are pretty
much the mainstream, you know, intolerant, selfish, and lacking any
real moral core..
There are lots of rules "good Jews" have to follow in order to be
considered good Jews.

I suspect your understanding of Christianity is suspect. I've had the
privilege of some friendly discussions the last few years with some nuns
and priests in academia, and in addition to exchanging pleasantries, we
do discuss what a "good" Christian would say or do under various
scenarios. Though I am not a Christian, I agreed completely with the
nuns that there are rules for being a good Christian, and they go way
beyond simply "believing."

The other day here I mentioned the Sermon on the Mount. Following those
precepts and rules probably is a good start.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
This is how you twist and take out of context.. I never said I was a
"good" Christian, don't think John did either... Either way, most
Christians know there is no perfect Christian, and any Christian,
academic or otherwise that does not leave judgement of such to the
Lord is just an idiot and a hypocrite. And of course "you agree with
the nuns", however based on your history and the ideology, it's a non
starter as the alleged conversation probably never happened. Again, if
you really understood Christianity, you would know that. Now tell us
again about "Jesus on a stick at Christmas" Pffftttt... you are full
of ****, as usual...

Harry is basing his guess about my religion on a couple Christmas carols I
posted here. He has no idea if I even go to church.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgdHjWPuCrI

Now he'll probably start putting down my Jewish faith.

Remember, this is the guy with the Maryland Red barn (and lots of guns in
his desk), and a 3/4 mile driveway, and five acres of yard to mow. I
wouldn't't mess with him if I were you.

Besides, if you look at the last three days, you'll see that the boy
answers you more if you *don't* talk to him!

I thought I was the only Jew in rec.boats! The damn problem with that
video is too many people are going to want to convert (how did you like
a Jew wearing a Catholic School Girl uniform. The only thing worst than
an "ex-smoker" is a converted Jew.