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Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:50:24 -0500, Boater wrote: wrote: On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 05:36:51 -0600, thunder wrote: On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:25:24 -0500, Eisboch wrote: I am not the one doing the complaining about Obama. The complaints are coming from your flock. Are you sure? Those that are writing those articles, whose flock to they belong to? Personally, I haven't heard any complaints, have you? OK, OK, there is Tom. ;-) Tom is just sore because his over-the-hill idea-less pseudorightie and his dumb bimbo running mate lost big time. And right there is the reason you are despised and reviled by all who participate here. And yes - I did say all. You cannot, and are incapable of, discussing issues in a calm rational manner without getting into personal insults and outrageous statements. You can't keep up, so you resort to negativity. Ask around Harry - I've often defended you in side conversations with different participants, but sometimes when you post crap like this, it becomes very hard to do. You are nothing more than a slightly more literate slammer2. You are all venom and spite just like slammer. So, with that in mind, I'm through with you for a while. Again. I'm pulling your leg - again - Tom. An interesting fact about you is that you like to pull the legs of others, but when others do it to you, you get ****ed - fast. You also get very upset very fast when others deign to question your opinions. As evidence of the latter, I offer up your defensiveness about eTec outboards and 4/3'ds format cameras. I think McCain was badly used by the GOP. I think he is a better man than the one his campaign depicted. But I don't think he wears his age and his hard life well, and I believe they caught up to him during the campaign. My opinion on Palin, though, is the same: brainless. dangerous, ideologue and first-class ditz. |
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On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 07:27:50 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:04:37 -0600, wrote: On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:50:55 -0500, BAR wrote: Does the rule of law mean anything? From where do the laws of the USA come? I find it interesting that a lawyer, The Obama, is so ignorant of the laws of the USA. What is he hiding regarding his birth? Absolutely nothing, he has disclosed his birth certificate, and the state of Hawaii has declared it legitimate. http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/ar...ING01/81031064 Ah - my friend it may not be a legitimate certificate - by law. For the reasons stated. That's what's going to be the issue - is that certificate a legal document based, as it is, on a flawed law? Again - I think it's silly and frankly, insulting to Obama and, this may surprize you, I'm on the opposite side - this is much to do about nothing - Congress can fix this immediately. But that's the issue - can Congress make this go away. And that's were the fun of discussing this is. However, the law you mentioned the Nationality Act of 1940 isn't the one that applies. That law was superseded by the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 (McCarren Walter Act). The Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952, section 349 (a), provided: “From and after the effective date of this Act a person who is a national of the United States whether by birth or naturalization, shall lose his nationality by -- (1) obtaining naturalization in a foreign state upon his own application, upon an application filed in his behalf by a parent, or duly authorized agent, or through the naturalization of a parent having legal custody of such person: Provided, That *nationality shall not be lost by any person under this section* as the result of the naturalization of a parent or parents while such person is under the age of twenty-one years, or as the result of naturalization obtained on behalf of a person under twenty-one years of age by a parent, guardian, or duly authorized agent, *unless such person shall fail to enter the United States to establish a permanent residence prior to his twenty- fifth birthday*: ....” Section 355 of that Act provided that: “A person having United States nationality, who is under the age of twenty-one and whose residence is in a foreign state with or under the legal custody of a parent who hereafter loses United States nationality under section 350 or 352 of this title, shall also lose his United States nationality if such person has or acquires the nationality of such foreign state: Provided, That, in such case, *United States nationality shall not be lost as the result of loss of United States nationality by the parent unless and until the person attains the age of twenty-five years without having established his residence in the United States*.” |
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JohnH wrote:
On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 07:41:02 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:50:24 -0500, Boater wrote: wrote: On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 05:36:51 -0600, thunder wrote: On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:25:24 -0500, Eisboch wrote: I am not the one doing the complaining about Obama. The complaints are coming from your flock. Are you sure? Those that are writing those articles, whose flock to they belong to? Personally, I haven't heard any complaints, have you? OK, OK, there is Tom. ;-) Tom is just sore because his over-the-hill idea-less pseudorightie and his dumb bimbo running mate lost big time. And right there is the reason you are despised and reviled by all who participate here. And yes - I did say all. You cannot, and are incapable of, discussing issues in a calm rational manner without getting into personal insults and outrageous statements. You can't keep up, so you resort to negativity. Ask around Harry - I've often defended you in side conversations with different participants, but sometimes when you post crap like this, it becomes very hard to do. You are nothing more than a slightly more literate slammer2. You are all venom and spite just like slammer. So, with that in mind, I'm through with you for a while. Again. Welcome to the club. Why, it's John Herring...the "Christian." |
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BAR wrote:
Boater wrote: BAR wrote: wrote: On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:50:55 -0500, BAR wrote: Does the rule of law mean anything? From where do the laws of the USA come? I find it interesting that a lawyer, The Obama, is so ignorant of the laws of the USA. What is he hiding regarding his birth? Absolutely nothing, he has disclosed his birth certificate, and the state of Hawaii has declared it legitimate. http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/ar...ING01/81031064 We have seen a computer generated piece of paper. What we want is a photo copy of his birth certificate. What you want is not relevant. Sure it is. I am a US citizen. Yeah? Prove it. How do we know your birth certificates were not photoshopped, and that you haven't bribed someone at the hall of records in the city where you were born? |
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On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 07:19:43 -0500, BAR wrote: wrote: On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 07:09:58 -0500, BAR wrote: http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20081031/ BREAKING01/81031064 We have seen a computer generated piece of paper. What we want is a photo copy of his birth certificate. I Was born just a couple of weeks after The Obama in Washington State. I have both a computer generated piece of paper and a photo copy of my birth certificate. They are not one in the same. http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2...n_the_usa.html That is the computer generated one. As I said, I have one of those from the State of Washington. I also have a photo copy of my Birth Certificate from the State of Washington too that was generated in September of 1961. I want to see a photo copy of the birth certificate issued in August of 1961 for The Obama. Anyone can printout a piece of paper and put some stamps on it. But, forging a document and embossing it with a 50 year old seal takes a real professional. Don't you think you might be getting a little paranoid? Put the above two links together, and most reasonable people would conclude Obama was born in Hawaii. A birth announcement in a newspaper means nothing. A certificate of live birth can be forged. |
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On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:59:14 -0600, thunder wrote:
However, the law you mentioned the Nationality Act of 1940 isn't the one that applies. That law was superseded by the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 (McCarren Walter Act). And, the McCarren Walter Act was superseded by the Immigration and Nationality Technical Corrections Act of 1994, which is retroactive. UNITED STATE CODE TITLE 8 CHAPTER 12 SUBCHAPTER III Part I § 1401 (g) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years… (LINK (http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/8...----000-.html)) |
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Boater wrote:
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:50:24 -0500, Boater wrote: wrote: On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 05:36:51 -0600, thunder wrote: On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:25:24 -0500, Eisboch wrote: I am not the one doing the complaining about Obama. The complaints are coming from your flock. Are you sure? Those that are writing those articles, whose flock to they belong to? Personally, I haven't heard any complaints, have you? OK, OK, there is Tom. ;-) Tom is just sore because his over-the-hill idea-less pseudorightie and his dumb bimbo running mate lost big time. And right there is the reason you are despised and reviled by all who participate here. And yes - I did say all. You cannot, and are incapable of, discussing issues in a calm rational manner without getting into personal insults and outrageous statements. You can't keep up, so you resort to negativity. Ask around Harry - I've often defended you in side conversations with different participants, but sometimes when you post crap like this, it becomes very hard to do. You are nothing more than a slightly more literate slammer2. You are all venom and spite just like slammer. So, with that in mind, I'm through with you for a while. Again. I'm pulling your leg - again - Tom. An interesting fact about you is that you like to pull the legs of others, but when others do it to you, you get ****ed - fast. You also get very upset very fast when others deign to question your opinions. As evidence of the latter, I offer up your defensiveness about eTec outboards and 4/3'ds format cameras. You need to work on you ass kissing. I think McCain was badly used by the GOP. I think he is a better man than the one his campaign depicted. But I don't think he wears his age and his hard life well, and I believe they caught up to him during the campaign. McCain is an idiot. Always was and always will be. Just ask his mother. My opinion on Palin, though, is the same: brainless. dangerous, ideologue and first-class ditz. Your opinion means nothing. |
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Boater wrote:
BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: wrote: On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:50:55 -0500, BAR wrote: Does the rule of law mean anything? From where do the laws of the USA come? I find it interesting that a lawyer, The Obama, is so ignorant of the laws of the USA. What is he hiding regarding his birth? Absolutely nothing, he has disclosed his birth certificate, and the state of Hawaii has declared it legitimate. http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/ar...ING01/81031064 We have seen a computer generated piece of paper. What we want is a photo copy of his birth certificate. What you want is not relevant. Sure it is. I am a US citizen. Yeah? Prove it. How do we know your birth certificates were not photoshopped, and that you haven't bribed someone at the hall of records in the city where you were born? Contact the State of Washington's Vital Records Department. |
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On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 08:08:46 -0500, BAR wrote:
A certificate of live birth can be forged. It also might be irrelevant. Read clause g in the following: http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/8...1----000-.html That would appear, IANAL, to make Obama a natural born citizen whether he was born in Kenya, or Hawaii. |
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BAR wrote:
Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: wrote: On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:50:55 -0500, BAR wrote: Does the rule of law mean anything? From where do the laws of the USA come? I find it interesting that a lawyer, The Obama, is so ignorant of the laws of the USA. What is he hiding regarding his birth? Absolutely nothing, he has disclosed his birth certificate, and the state of Hawaii has declared it legitimate. http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/ar...ING01/81031064 We have seen a computer generated piece of paper. What we want is a photo copy of his birth certificate. What you want is not relevant. Sure it is. I am a US citizen. Yeah? Prove it. How do we know your birth certificates were not photoshopped, and that you haven't bribed someone at the hall of records in the city where you were born? Contact the State of Washington's Vital Records Department. Maybe you bribed them. See where this is going? D'oh. |
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On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:59:14 -0600, wrote:
On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 07:27:50 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:04:37 -0600, wrote: On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:50:55 -0500, BAR wrote: Does the rule of law mean anything? From where do the laws of the USA come? I find it interesting that a lawyer, The Obama, is so ignorant of the laws of the USA. What is he hiding regarding his birth? Absolutely nothing, he has disclosed his birth certificate, and the state of Hawaii has declared it legitimate. http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/ar...ING01/81031064 Ah - my friend it may not be a legitimate certificate - by law. For the reasons stated. That's what's going to be the issue - is that certificate a legal document based, as it is, on a flawed law? Again - I think it's silly and frankly, insulting to Obama and, this may surprize you, I'm on the opposite side - this is much to do about nothing - Congress can fix this immediately. But that's the issue - can Congress make this go away. And that's were the fun of discussing this is. However, the law you mentioned the Nationality Act of 1940 isn't the one that applies. That law was superseded by the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 (McCarren Walter Act). The Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952, section 349 (a), provided: From and after the effective date of this Act a person who is a national of the United States whether by birth or naturalization, shall lose his nationality by -- (1) obtaining naturalization in a foreign state upon his own application, upon an application filed in his behalf by a parent, or duly authorized agent, or through the naturalization of a parent having legal custody of such person: Provided, That *nationality shall not be lost by any person under this section* as the result of the naturalization of a parent or parents while such person is under the age of twenty-one years, or as the result of naturalization obtained on behalf of a person under twenty-one years of age by a parent, guardian, or duly authorized agent, *unless such person shall fail to enter the United States to establish a permanent residence prior to his twenty- fifth birthday*: .... Section 355 of that Act provided that: A person having United States nationality, who is under the age of twenty-one and whose residence is in a foreign state with or under the legal custody of a parent who hereafter loses United States nationality under section 350 or 352 of this title, shall also lose his United States nationality if such person has or acquires the nationality of such foreign state: Provided, That, in such case, *United States nationality shall not be lost as the result of loss of United States nationality by the parent unless and until the person attains the age of twenty-five years without having established his residence in the United States*. Yeah - I just read about that, but, according to the legal beagles, the section I referenced, the age clause still applies. That's what I've read anyway. |
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BAR wrote:
Jim wrote: Boater wrote: Eisboch wrote: "JohnH" wrote in message ... On Mon, 8 Dec 2008 04:32:22 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... My understanding is that the Toyota we have was not built by non-union workers in the USA. Why did I choose it? Because at the time I purchased it, the corresponding Ford and GM vehicles were too large. I assume you bought a used Tundra. Eisboch I believe he said he had a 4Runner. -- John H. Oh. I was wrong. I thought he mentioned a Tundra. I assume it is an older, used model. Eisboch 4Runner with 100,000 miles. Still in good shape, but only used as a boat ramp tow vehicle these days. When we got it, Ford and GM didn't make a mid-sized SUV with similar tow capacity, as I recall, and, of course, I wouldn't take a Chrysler product on a bet, not with those old-tech pushrod engines. That was almost six years ago, though. I haven't stayed "current" with what is being offered by Ford or GM these days. In fact, I'm not really that interested in cars these days. I do think Ford and GM would be better off, as would their workers, if good foreign management took over there, management from Japan or Korea. with buyouts for the current organized employees, and a new unionized deal for new hires, with a quality "national" health care plan so the employers aren't burdened with that. I have no faith in U.S. corporate management and its B-school mentality. Your lack of faith is apparent. GM is Better off in chapter 11 with no bailout money. Pay the union members off with 10 cents per benefit dollar and lock out the unions permanently. Executive bonus should be tied to profit. Worker bonus and pay should be tied to individual productivity. Simply put. "Earn your pay" Executive bonuses should be paid out 5 years later. Good incentive for working to keep the companies solvent long term. |
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Boater wrote:
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Tue, 9 Dec 2008 03:58:13 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "D.Duck" wrote in message ... "Boater" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... They don't design the cars and trucks, they just build what they told to build. Kinda like Lemmings with an attitude, huh? Figures. Eisboch It's the way U.S. auto factories are operated. The disdain for workers who haven't had some of the advantages you have had is palpable. From what I gleaned here, Eisboch's *advantages* are the result of self-sacrifice and *hard* work. You know, the American way. You forgot the most important ingredient. Luck. You make your own luck by hard work. Just like all successful people. Many of those who work factory jobs don't have what it takes to do more than show up every day for work and do a good job. That shouldn't make them objects for your scorn. If ever there was a scornful person, you fit the bill to a T. Mr Harry N. Krause. Merry Christmas |
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BAR wrote:
Eisboch wrote: "D.Duck" wrote in message ... "Boater" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... They don't design the cars and trucks, they just build what they told to build. Kinda like Lemmings with an attitude, huh? Figures. Eisboch It's the way U.S. auto factories are operated. The disdain for workers who haven't had some of the advantages you have had is palpable. From what I gleaned here, Eisboch's *advantages* are the result of self-sacrifice and *hard* work. You know, the American way. You forgot the most important ingredient. Luck. An old sage once said "**** doesn't happen, you let it happen." Luck is sitting around in your underwear when the Publisher's Clearing House check guys come knocking at your door. They better not knock on Harry's door. He'll blow their heads clear off. |
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Boater wrote:
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 05:36:51 -0600, wrote: On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:25:24 -0500, Eisboch wrote: I am not the one doing the complaining about Obama. The complaints are coming from your flock. Are you sure? Those that are writing those articles, whose flock to they belong to? Personally, I haven't heard any complaints, have you? Actually yes. To hear Mrs. Wave and her fellow travelers talk that is. And read the Daily Kos and the Huffington Post. Kos has participating bloggers from all over the political spectrum, including the far, far left. It's what makes it interesting sometimes. But the far lefties don't get the attention in the Democratic party that the far righties get in the Republican party, because the Republican party is mostly far righties these days. *White* far righties. It isn't often one gets to see evolution in action. It is quite pleasurable watching the Republican party being evolved out of existence. What do you have against white people Krause? Some of my best friends are white. |
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On Dec 8, 7:21*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: On Mon, 8 Dec 2008 19:54:11 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... They don't design the cars and trucks, they just build what they told to build. Kinda like Lemmings with an attitude, huh? Figures. Can we get back to talking about Supreme Beings - meaning of course, me. It is all about me you know. You mean, El Supremo, that bought a real P.O.S. That praises his local Ford dealership which had to work on his new S-box continually covering their parent companies ill-designed products? The same Supremo who believes that Dodge and GM products are inferior? That Supremo? ?;^ Q |
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Tim wrote:
On Dec 8, 7:21 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Mon, 8 Dec 2008 19:54:11 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... They don't design the cars and trucks, they just build what they told to build. Kinda like Lemmings with an attitude, huh? Figures. Can we get back to talking about Supreme Beings - meaning of course, me. It is all about me you know. You mean, El Supremo, that bought a real P.O.S. That praises his local Ford dealership which had to work on his new S-box continually covering their parent companies ill-designed products? The same Supremo who believes that Dodge and GM products are inferior? That Supremo? ?;^ Q Forget not the soon to be orphaned eTec outboard and the 4/3'rds format camera that no one else is buying. Oh...and the lock on John McCain and Sarah the Ditz winning the election. |
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On Tue, 9 Dec 2008 03:58:13 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:
You forgot the most important ingredient. Luck. I prefer to call it good fortune. Luck comes to those who are prepared for it and recognize it when they see it. |
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Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 9 Dec 2008 03:58:13 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: You forgot the most important ingredient. Luck. I prefer to call it good fortune. Luck comes to those who are prepared for it and recognize it when they see it. Gee...you and Pasteur... |
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On Tue, 9 Dec 2008 07:27:54 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote: On Dec 8, 7:21*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Mon, 8 Dec 2008 19:54:11 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... They don't design the cars and trucks, they just build what they told to build. Kinda like Lemmings with an attitude, huh? Figures. Can we get back to talking about Supreme Beings - meaning of course, me. It is all about me you know. You mean, El Supremo, that bought a real P.O.S. That praises his local Ford dealership which had to work on his new S-box continually covering their parent companies ill-designed products? Actually, it's a Mercury/Lincoln dealership, but they purchase Fords for me because I've bought 20 something cars from him and his father over the years. The same Supremo who believes that Dodge and GM products are inferior? Truth hurts. That Supremo? Yes - that Supremo. ?;^ Q Um..huh? |
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On Dec 9, 10:32*am, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote: On Tue, 9 Dec 2008 07:27:54 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Dec 8, 7:21*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Mon, 8 Dec 2008 19:54:11 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... They don't design the cars and trucks, they just build what they told to build. Kinda like Lemmings with an attitude, huh? Figures. Can we get back to talking about Supreme Beings - meaning of course, me. It is all about me you know. You mean, El Supremo, that bought a real P.O.S. That praises his local Ford dealership which had to work on his new S-box continually covering their parent companies ill-designed products? * Actually, it's a Mercury/Lincoln dealership, but they purchase Fords for me because I've bought 20 something cars from him and his father over the years. The same Supremo who believes that Dodge and GM products are inferior? Truth hurts. That Supremo? Yes - that Supremo. ?;^ Q Um..huh?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - BTW, Tom. I have two lincolns. Not new. But my play toy is a '92 MrkVII LSC And a '95 Lincoln Town Car. My last two daily drivers have been Mer G-Marq's One is my 90 Colony Park wagon that pulls my boats. i confiss that I did swap the engine and tran. in my 89 Marq. when it had 190,000 mi on it and I got over 300, 000 on it before it finally went to the junk. I'd probably still have it but a deer took care of the front end for me. so it went to the demolition derbiers. My present colony Park wagon will probably get a new timing chain and Waterpump, before next boating season, because it has 162,000 mi on it. Probably pu a pan gasket on it too. (Not an easy job) but worth it. Hoses as well. I like Ford products. I drive Ford products, I do believe they are normally better quality over GM. I dont' have much experience with Dodge's, but if I needed a pickup truck it would have to have a 5.9 cummins. But face it. You're truck was a POS. |
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"BAR" wrote in message ... wrote: On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 07:09:58 -0500, BAR wrote: http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/ar...ING01/81031064 We have seen a computer generated piece of paper. What we want is a photo copy of his birth certificate. I Was born just a couple of weeks after The Obama in Washington State. I have both a computer generated piece of paper and a photo copy of my birth certificate. They are not one in the same. http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2...n_the_usa.html That is the computer generated one. As I said, I have one of those from the State of Washington. I also have a photo copy of my Birth Certificate from the State of Washington too that was generated in September of 1961. I want to see a photo copy of the birth certificate issued in August of 1961 for The Obama. Anyone can printout a piece of paper and put some stamps on it. But, forging a document and embossing it with a 50 year old seal takes a real professional. Maybe like my mother, there is no birth certificate. Doctor thought she was not going to survive and never filed the BC. She fooled them. Turned 94 last week. Rural Nebraska. |
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message m... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "RG" wrote in message ... One of the financial experts interviewed on CNN commented on this. He said that even if GM received the full requested government bailout ... *plus* an additional 50-75 billion that he figured will be necessary in the future, GM will still be an insolvent, bankrupt company. Which is why the debate about whether or not to allow them to fail is so absurd. The point is that they have already failed, big time. The debate now should be about how to deconstruct and see if some sort of Phoenix can rise from the ashes. Under the right circumstances, I believe such a re-birth is possible and would have a reasonable chance of success. RG I agree 100%. At first blush many people think of "saving jobs" which is nice, but not reality. Those jobs have already been doomed, bailout or no bailout, economic meltdown or no economic meltdown. Eisboch Where were the bailouts when thousands lost their jobs when World Com and Enron folded. Probably as many jobs lost as GM would suffer. We survived. Maybe they will bailout enron and Worldcom retroactively. And no one is bailing out main street's 401k. Makes me wonder who is really calling the shots at the top. This is going down like a trial where the verdict is known before it starts. The trial is nothing more than a rouse, a pony show. Face saver for the government to appear to be in the interests of the people. When in fact this has nothing to do with it. |
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Boater wrote:
BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: wrote: On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:50:55 -0500, BAR wrote: Does the rule of law mean anything? From where do the laws of the USA come? I find it interesting that a lawyer, The Obama, is so ignorant of the laws of the USA. What is he hiding regarding his birth? Absolutely nothing, he has disclosed his birth certificate, and the state of Hawaii has declared it legitimate. http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/ar...ING01/81031064 We have seen a computer generated piece of paper. What we want is a photo copy of his birth certificate. What you want is not relevant. Sure it is. I am a US citizen. Yeah? Prove it. How do we know your birth certificates were not photoshopped, and that you haven't bribed someone at the hall of records in the city where you were born? Contact the State of Washington's Vital Records Department. Maybe you bribed them. See where this is going? D'oh. Let's meet, I'll show you a real birth certificate and a computer printout. |
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BAR wrote:
Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: wrote: On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:50:55 -0500, BAR wrote: Does the rule of law mean anything? From where do the laws of the USA come? I find it interesting that a lawyer, The Obama, is so ignorant of the laws of the USA. What is he hiding regarding his birth? Absolutely nothing, he has disclosed his birth certificate, and the state of Hawaii has declared it legitimate. http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/ar...ING01/81031064 We have seen a computer generated piece of paper. What we want is a photo copy of his birth certificate. What you want is not relevant. Sure it is. I am a US citizen. Yeah? Prove it. How do we know your birth certificates were not photoshopped, and that you haven't bribed someone at the hall of records in the city where you were born? Contact the State of Washington's Vital Records Department. Maybe you bribed them. See where this is going? D'oh. Let's meet, I'll show you a real birth certificate and a computer printout. How would *you* prove it was real during a meeting? Anyone can print up just about anything these days. I'm not a document expert, nor do I know or care about what documents are issued wherever you were born. Meet you? Don't make me puke at this hour. |
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Boater wrote:
BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: wrote: On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:50:55 -0500, BAR wrote: Does the rule of law mean anything? From where do the laws of the USA come? I find it interesting that a lawyer, The Obama, is so ignorant of the laws of the USA. What is he hiding regarding his birth? Absolutely nothing, he has disclosed his birth certificate, and the state of Hawaii has declared it legitimate. http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/ar...ING01/81031064 We have seen a computer generated piece of paper. What we want is a photo copy of his birth certificate. What you want is not relevant. Sure it is. I am a US citizen. Yeah? Prove it. How do we know your birth certificates were not photoshopped, and that you haven't bribed someone at the hall of records in the city where you were born? Contact the State of Washington's Vital Records Department. Maybe you bribed them. See where this is going? D'oh. Let's meet, I'll show you a real birth certificate and a computer printout. How would *you* prove it was real during a meeting? Anyone can print up just about anything these days. I'm not a document expert, nor do I know or care about what documents are issued wherever you were born. Meet you? Don't make me puke at this hour. I wasn't expecting you to accept. |
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BAR wrote:
Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: wrote: On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:50:55 -0500, BAR wrote: Does the rule of law mean anything? From where do the laws of the USA come? I find it interesting that a lawyer, The Obama, is so ignorant of the laws of the USA. What is he hiding regarding his birth? Absolutely nothing, he has disclosed his birth certificate, and the state of Hawaii has declared it legitimate. http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/ar...ING01/81031064 We have seen a computer generated piece of paper. What we want is a photo copy of his birth certificate. What you want is not relevant. Sure it is. I am a US citizen. Yeah? Prove it. How do we know your birth certificates were not photoshopped, and that you haven't bribed someone at the hall of records in the city where you were born? Contact the State of Washington's Vital Records Department. Maybe you bribed them. See where this is going? D'oh. Let's meet, I'll show you a real birth certificate and a computer printout. How would *you* prove it was real during a meeting? Anyone can print up just about anything these days. I'm not a document expert, nor do I know or care about what documents are issued wherever you were born. Meet you? Don't make me puke at this hour. I wasn't expecting you to accept. There's no reason to meet a turd like you. You offer up nothing unique or interesting. |
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Boater wrote:
BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: wrote: On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:50:55 -0500, BAR wrote: Does the rule of law mean anything? From where do the laws of the USA come? I find it interesting that a lawyer, The Obama, is so ignorant of the laws of the USA. What is he hiding regarding his birth? Absolutely nothing, he has disclosed his birth certificate, and the state of Hawaii has declared it legitimate. http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/ar...ING01/81031064 We have seen a computer generated piece of paper. What we want is a photo copy of his birth certificate. What you want is not relevant. Sure it is. I am a US citizen. Yeah? Prove it. How do we know your birth certificates were not photoshopped, and that you haven't bribed someone at the hall of records in the city where you were born? Contact the State of Washington's Vital Records Department. Maybe you bribed them. See where this is going? D'oh. Let's meet, I'll show you a real birth certificate and a computer printout. How would *you* prove it was real during a meeting? Anyone can print up just about anything these days. I'm not a document expert, nor do I know or care about what documents are issued wherever you were born. Meet you? Don't make me puke at this hour. I wasn't expecting you to accept. There's no reason to meet a turd like you. You offer up nothing unique or interesting. You are afraid of me aren't you? |
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BAR wrote:
Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: wrote: On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:50:55 -0500, BAR wrote: Does the rule of law mean anything? From where do the laws of the USA come? I find it interesting that a lawyer, The Obama, is so ignorant of the laws of the USA. What is he hiding regarding his birth? Absolutely nothing, he has disclosed his birth certificate, and the state of Hawaii has declared it legitimate. http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/ar...ING01/81031064 We have seen a computer generated piece of paper. What we want is a photo copy of his birth certificate. What you want is not relevant. Sure it is. I am a US citizen. Yeah? Prove it. How do we know your birth certificates were not photoshopped, and that you haven't bribed someone at the hall of records in the city where you were born? Contact the State of Washington's Vital Records Department. Maybe you bribed them. See where this is going? D'oh. Let's meet, I'll show you a real birth certificate and a computer printout. How would *you* prove it was real during a meeting? Anyone can print up just about anything these days. I'm not a document expert, nor do I know or care about what documents are issued wherever you were born. Meet you? Don't make me puke at this hour. I wasn't expecting you to accept. There's no reason to meet a turd like you. You offer up nothing unique or interesting. You are afraid of me aren't you? Afraid of you? Please. I'm trying to drink my coffee. |
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JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 07:52:25 -0500, BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: wrote: On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:50:55 -0500, BAR wrote: Does the rule of law mean anything? From where do the laws of the USA come? I find it interesting that a lawyer, The Obama, is so ignorant of the laws of the USA. What is he hiding regarding his birth? Absolutely nothing, he has disclosed his birth certificate, and the state of Hawaii has declared it legitimate. http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/ar...ING01/81031064 We have seen a computer generated piece of paper. What we want is a photo copy of his birth certificate. What you want is not relevant. Sure it is. I am a US citizen. Yeah? Prove it. How do we know your birth certificates were not photoshopped, and that you haven't bribed someone at the hall of records in the city where you were born? Contact the State of Washington's Vital Records Department. Maybe you bribed them. See where this is going? D'oh. Let's meet, I'll show you a real birth certificate and a computer printout. How would *you* prove it was real during a meeting? Anyone can print up just about anything these days. I'm not a document expert, nor do I know or care about what documents are issued wherever you were born. Meet you? Don't make me puke at this hour. I wasn't expecting you to accept. There's no reason to meet a turd like you. You offer up nothing unique or interesting. You are afraid of me aren't you? Meet him in a safe, friendly environment. I'll loan you my shed. BTW, we might not get any more rain for a few hours. I'm thinking of giving it a try. -- John Don't forget the condom. |
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On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 07:52:25 -0500, BAR wrote:
Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: wrote: On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:50:55 -0500, BAR wrote: Does the rule of law mean anything? From where do the laws of the USA come? I find it interesting that a lawyer, The Obama, is so ignorant of the laws of the USA. What is he hiding regarding his birth? Absolutely nothing, he has disclosed his birth certificate, and the state of Hawaii has declared it legitimate. http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/ar...ING01/81031064 We have seen a computer generated piece of paper. What we want is a photo copy of his birth certificate. What you want is not relevant. Sure it is. I am a US citizen. Yeah? Prove it. How do we know your birth certificates were not photoshopped, and that you haven't bribed someone at the hall of records in the city where you were born? Contact the State of Washington's Vital Records Department. Maybe you bribed them. See where this is going? D'oh. Let's meet, I'll show you a real birth certificate and a computer printout. How would *you* prove it was real during a meeting? Anyone can print up just about anything these days. I'm not a document expert, nor do I know or care about what documents are issued wherever you were born. Meet you? Don't make me puke at this hour. I wasn't expecting you to accept. There's no reason to meet a turd like you. You offer up nothing unique or interesting. You are afraid of me aren't you? Meet him in a safe, friendly environment. I'll loan you my shed. BTW, we might not get any more rain for a few hours. I'm thinking of giving it a try. -- John Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year! |
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JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 07:52:25 -0500, BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: wrote: On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:50:55 -0500, BAR wrote: Does the rule of law mean anything? From where do the laws of the USA come? I find it interesting that a lawyer, The Obama, is so ignorant of the laws of the USA. What is he hiding regarding his birth? Absolutely nothing, he has disclosed his birth certificate, and the state of Hawaii has declared it legitimate. http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/ar...ING01/81031064 We have seen a computer generated piece of paper. What we want is a photo copy of his birth certificate. What you want is not relevant. Sure it is. I am a US citizen. Yeah? Prove it. How do we know your birth certificates were not photoshopped, and that you haven't bribed someone at the hall of records in the city where you were born? Contact the State of Washington's Vital Records Department. Maybe you bribed them. See where this is going? D'oh. Let's meet, I'll show you a real birth certificate and a computer printout. How would *you* prove it was real during a meeting? Anyone can print up just about anything these days. I'm not a document expert, nor do I know or care about what documents are issued wherever you were born. Meet you? Don't make me puke at this hour. I wasn't expecting you to accept. There's no reason to meet a turd like you. You offer up nothing unique or interesting. You are afraid of me aren't you? Meet him in a safe, friendly environment. I'll loan you my shed. I figure a donut shop should be a safe place. BTW, we might not get any more rain for a few hours. I'm thinking of giving it a try. My morning is packed with conference calls. |
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On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 07:58:51 -0500, BAR wrote:
JohnH wrote: On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 07:52:25 -0500, BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: wrote: On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:50:55 -0500, BAR wrote: Does the rule of law mean anything? From where do the laws of the USA come? I find it interesting that a lawyer, The Obama, is so ignorant of the laws of the USA. What is he hiding regarding his birth? Absolutely nothing, he has disclosed his birth certificate, and the state of Hawaii has declared it legitimate. http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/ar...ING01/81031064 We have seen a computer generated piece of paper. What we want is a photo copy of his birth certificate. What you want is not relevant. Sure it is. I am a US citizen. Yeah? Prove it. How do we know your birth certificates were not photoshopped, and that you haven't bribed someone at the hall of records in the city where you were born? Contact the State of Washington's Vital Records Department. Maybe you bribed them. See where this is going? D'oh. Let's meet, I'll show you a real birth certificate and a computer printout. How would *you* prove it was real during a meeting? Anyone can print up just about anything these days. I'm not a document expert, nor do I know or care about what documents are issued wherever you were born. Meet you? Don't make me puke at this hour. I wasn't expecting you to accept. There's no reason to meet a turd like you. You offer up nothing unique or interesting. You are afraid of me aren't you? Meet him in a safe, friendly environment. I'll loan you my shed. I figure a donut shop should be a safe place. BTW, we might not get any more rain for a few hours. I'm thinking of giving it a try. My morning is packed with conference calls. Well, you can be sure Harry loves doughnuts! Sorry about the calls. I'm going. Bye! -- John Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year! |
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JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 07:58:51 -0500, BAR wrote: JohnH wrote: On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 07:52:25 -0500, BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: wrote: On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:50:55 -0500, BAR wrote: Does the rule of law mean anything? From where do the laws of the USA come? I find it interesting that a lawyer, The Obama, is so ignorant of the laws of the USA. What is he hiding regarding his birth? Absolutely nothing, he has disclosed his birth certificate, and the state of Hawaii has declared it legitimate. http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/ar...ING01/81031064 We have seen a computer generated piece of paper. What we want is a photo copy of his birth certificate. What you want is not relevant. Sure it is. I am a US citizen. Yeah? Prove it. How do we know your birth certificates were not photoshopped, and that you haven't bribed someone at the hall of records in the city where you were born? Contact the State of Washington's Vital Records Department. Maybe you bribed them. See where this is going? D'oh. Let's meet, I'll show you a real birth certificate and a computer printout. How would *you* prove it was real during a meeting? Anyone can print up just about anything these days. I'm not a document expert, nor do I know or care about what documents are issued wherever you were born. Meet you? Don't make me puke at this hour. I wasn't expecting you to accept. There's no reason to meet a turd like you. You offer up nothing unique or interesting. You are afraid of me aren't you? Meet him in a safe, friendly environment. I'll loan you my shed. I figure a donut shop should be a safe place. BTW, we might not get any more rain for a few hours. I'm thinking of giving it a try. My morning is packed with conference calls. Well, you can be sure Harry loves doughnuts! Sorry about the calls. I'm going. Bye! -- John Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year! Sorry, Herring, I don't even like donuts. |
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Boater wrote:
JohnH wrote: On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 07:58:51 -0500, BAR wrote: JohnH wrote: On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 07:52:25 -0500, BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: wrote: On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:50:55 -0500, BAR wrote: Does the rule of law mean anything? From where do the laws of the USA come? I find it interesting that a lawyer, The Obama, is so ignorant of the laws of the USA. What is he hiding regarding his birth? Absolutely nothing, he has disclosed his birth certificate, and the state of Hawaii has declared it legitimate. http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/ar...ING01/81031064 We have seen a computer generated piece of paper. What we want is a photo copy of his birth certificate. What you want is not relevant. Sure it is. I am a US citizen. Yeah? Prove it. How do we know your birth certificates were not photoshopped, and that you haven't bribed someone at the hall of records in the city where you were born? Contact the State of Washington's Vital Records Department. Maybe you bribed them. See where this is going? D'oh. Let's meet, I'll show you a real birth certificate and a computer printout. How would *you* prove it was real during a meeting? Anyone can print up just about anything these days. I'm not a document expert, nor do I know or care about what documents are issued wherever you were born. Meet you? Don't make me puke at this hour. I wasn't expecting you to accept. There's no reason to meet a turd like you. You offer up nothing unique or interesting. You are afraid of me aren't you? Meet him in a safe, friendly environment. I'll loan you my shed. I figure a donut shop should be a safe place. BTW, we might not get any more rain for a few hours. I'm thinking of giving it a try. My morning is packed with conference calls. Well, you can be sure Harry loves doughnuts! Sorry about the calls. I'm going. Bye! -- John Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year! Sorry, Herring, I don't even like donuts. Harry, It looked like you have a nice home and yard. Why do you feel that it was necessary to make your average size driveway into a 3/4 mile driveway and take a photo of them paving your road and pretend it was your driveway? You also talked about how long it took you to mow your 5 acres of lawn with a riding mower. I really think I could have mowed your small lawn with a push mower in less than 20 minutes. |
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"Boater" wrote in message ... BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: wrote: On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:50:55 -0500, BAR wrote: Does the rule of law mean anything? From where do the laws of the USA come? I find it interesting that a lawyer, The Obama, is so ignorant of the laws of the USA. What is he hiding regarding his birth? Absolutely nothing, he has disclosed his birth certificate, and the state of Hawaii has declared it legitimate. http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/ar...ING01/81031064 We have seen a computer generated piece of paper. What we want is a photo copy of his birth certificate. What you want is not relevant. Sure it is. I am a US citizen. Yeah? Prove it. How do we know your birth certificates were not photoshopped, and that you haven't bribed someone at the hall of records in the city where you were born? Contact the State of Washington's Vital Records Department. Maybe you bribed them. See where this is going? D'oh. Let's meet, I'll show you a real birth certificate and a computer printout. How would *you* prove it was real during a meeting? Anyone can print up just about anything these days. I'm not a document expert, nor do I know or care about what documents are issued wherever you were born. Meet you? Don't make me puke at this hour. I wasn't expecting you to accept. There's no reason to meet a turd like you. You offer up nothing unique or interesting. Maybe Bertie has some interesting service medals to show off. Oh wait....he didn't go anywhere or do anything. |
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Don White wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message ... BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: wrote: On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:50:55 -0500, BAR wrote: Does the rule of law mean anything? From where do the laws of the USA come? I find it interesting that a lawyer, The Obama, is so ignorant of the laws of the USA. What is he hiding regarding his birth? Absolutely nothing, he has disclosed his birth certificate, and the state of Hawaii has declared it legitimate. http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/ar...ING01/81031064 We have seen a computer generated piece of paper. What we want is a photo copy of his birth certificate. What you want is not relevant. Sure it is. I am a US citizen. Yeah? Prove it. How do we know your birth certificates were not photoshopped, and that you haven't bribed someone at the hall of records in the city where you were born? Contact the State of Washington's Vital Records Department. Maybe you bribed them. See where this is going? D'oh. Let's meet, I'll show you a real birth certificate and a computer printout. How would *you* prove it was real during a meeting? Anyone can print up just about anything these days. I'm not a document expert, nor do I know or care about what documents are issued wherever you were born. Meet you? Don't make me puke at this hour. I wasn't expecting you to accept. There's no reason to meet a turd like you. You offer up nothing unique or interesting. Maybe Bertie has some interesting service medals to show off. Oh wait....he didn't go anywhere or do anything. Latrine Guard Duty. It isn't easy snapping that rifle from shoulder to shoulder while you hand guys a roll of toilet paper. He kept the spares on his bayonet. |
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Don White wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message ... BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: wrote: On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:50:55 -0500, BAR wrote: Does the rule of law mean anything? From where do the laws of the USA come? I find it interesting that a lawyer, The Obama, is so ignorant of the laws of the USA. What is he hiding regarding his birth? Absolutely nothing, he has disclosed his birth certificate, and the state of Hawaii has declared it legitimate. http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/ar...ING01/81031064 We have seen a computer generated piece of paper. What we want is a photo copy of his birth certificate. What you want is not relevant. Sure it is. I am a US citizen. Yeah? Prove it. How do we know your birth certificates were not photoshopped, and that you haven't bribed someone at the hall of records in the city where you were born? Contact the State of Washington's Vital Records Department. Maybe you bribed them. See where this is going? D'oh. Let's meet, I'll show you a real birth certificate and a computer printout. How would *you* prove it was real during a meeting? Anyone can print up just about anything these days. I'm not a document expert, nor do I know or care about what documents are issued wherever you were born. Meet you? Don't make me puke at this hour. I wasn't expecting you to accept. There's no reason to meet a turd like you. You offer up nothing unique or interesting. Maybe Bertie has some interesting service medals to show off. Oh wait....he didn't go anywhere or do anything. Donnie, I didn't get any medals when I was in. Wow, see how easy it is to tell the truth. My service was during a period of relative calm in the world. True I didn't go to too many different places, I spent most of my time near Virginia Beach, VA and Emerald Isle/Atlantic Beach, NC. Not bad duty huh? |
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