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Boater wrote:
wrote:
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 08:45:40 -0500, John wrote:

On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 07:23:49 -0600, wrote:

On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 07:23:39 -0500, John wrote:


http://www.americanprogress.org/issu...tribution.html
Thunder, do you really believe the 'worker' has increased his output
by 20%? Does that line make sense to you?

The fact that you read it in an anti-Bush article doesn't make it
true.
As you are clearly too lazy to do your own search:

http://www.bls.gov/lpc/prodybar.htm

Let's see, 7 * 2.5 = 17.5 You could then extrapolate, considering
it is
2008. So, yes, I do believe the 'worker' has increased his output by
20%, even though, I probably shouldn't believe anything that comes out
of the Bush government.
That's overall productivity, not an increase in productivity of
'workers'.

If I have an assembly line with 10 workers, I replace five with a robot,
and my output remains constant, does that mean the productivity of the
five remaining workers has increased by 100%? Should I double the pay
of the remaining five workers?

If you believe that, then I can understand your anguish.


Well, seeing you are talking an assembly line, productivity in the
manufacturing sector was 26% between 2000-2007. I'm well aware of
what "productivity" is, and I'm also quite aware that productivity has
increased, wages haven't kept up, which was the whole point of the
first link posted.
I'd also point out, that article was posted in reply to Just's
statement that "The lazy ones who won't work need the
representation." Well, apparently, that's not true, now is it?



Actually, the need for workers to have "representation" has much to do
with the tendency of employers to exploit them. Now, exploitation can
be an "umbrella" that includes all manner of nasties, including, for
example, the speeding up of an assembly line to "increase production" to
the point where working on it is dangerous.

In the good old days, there used to be a sort of compact between
employer and employee, in which the employer provided a decent place to
work, decent working conditions, and wages and benefits that rose
gradually. In the 1980s, greed took over, and employers looked for more
and easier ways to "increase" their profits. They began casting their
workers by the wayside, a trend that continues today.

The best answer for "globalization" is the slow but increasing amount of
cooperation and exchange of information between labor unions, so that
eventually there simply is no place for employers to hide from decent
wages, working conditions and benefits.

Personally, I'd like to see more heads of senior corporate execs and
their "advisers" on pikes.
I'll bet there are a lot of folks that would like to see your head on a
pike with duct tape over your mouth. Personally, those kinds of barbaric
thoughts and displays are horrible. You are a nasty WAFA Krause.
Merry Christmas

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Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Boater wrote:


It's going to be a "fun fun fun" four to eight years, watching
righties everywhere choking on their own bile.


This does sum up your philosophy of life. Instead of enjoying watching
your political party implement their agenda, that they believe will
strengthening the economy, protecting Americans, while preserving the
Constitution, reestablishing America as a world leader, that can build
consensus to solve global problems etc., you are going to enjoy
"watching righties everywhere chocking on their own bile".

Have you been this way all of your life?




First, Reggie, try to internalize the oft-stated fact that I don't give
a schitt about what you think, feel, or do.

Second, there is nothing inconsistent in believing President Obama with
the help of stronger Democratic majorities in Congress will work
assiduously to reverse the GOP horrors of the last eight years and
improve the quality of life for most Americans and our position in the
world *and* watching righties everywhere choke on their own bile.

I'll be glad to see us moving away from "traditional Republican values,"
such as lynching blacks, beating up gays, and Latinos, and keeping the
"little woman" barefoot, pregnant, and in servitude.

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John wrote:
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 09:01:06 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Boater wrote:

It's going to be a "fun fun fun" four to eight years, watching righties
everywhere choking on their own bile.

This does sum up your philosophy of life. Instead of enjoying watching
your political party implement their agenda, that they believe will
strengthening the economy, protecting Americans, while preserving the
Constitution, reestablishing America as a world leader, that can build
consensus to solve global problems etc., you are going to enjoy
"watching righties everywhere chocking on their own bile".

Have you been this way all of your life?


He is all yours. The temp is almost 40F, the winds are calm, the frost
delay is almost over, and I'm going golfing!

Yippee!



Well, there's always hope you'll fall into a water trap...

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wrote:
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 09:20:34 -0500, BAR wrote:


http://www.bls.gov/lpc/prodybar.htm

What does "productivity in the manufacturing sector was 26% between
2000-2007" mean. Do you mean there was a 26% in crease in productivity
in the manufacturing sector between 2000 and 2007?

Yes.

The individual worker cannot take credit for the robot's productivity.
The individual worker needs to be measured individually to determine
whether that individual worker has increased their productivity.

Tell that to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Geez, you can go through
all sorts of gymnastics to avoid the issue. Productivity has increased
20% in the non-farm business sector, 26% in the manufacturing sector, and
wages have increased 1-3% depending on who you listen to. It's not a
difficult concept, wages have not kept up with productivity.

If the entire line is replaces all of the workers with robots is there a
100% productivity increase? In this day and age the productivity
increases are due to improvements in process and technology.

The rich get richer, the poor get poorer.

You can't be classified as poor when you have a cellphone, cable TV and
two cars in the driveway.

Outstanding performers are taken care of, those who just show up and do
enough to get a paycheck should work for someone else.

Horse****!

Why. If a guy comes to work on your house which one do you want doing
the work? The outstanding performer or the guy who just kind of barely
gets it done, if it needs five nails he may only put in four but thats
ok it should hold just fine.

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"John" wrote in message
...
snip..
" If I have an assembly line with 10 workers, I replace five with a robot,
and my output remains constant, does that mean the productivity of the
five remaining workers has increased by 100%? Should I double the pay
of the remaining five workers?"
--
John


You might have a point Johnny. Maybe the Army should have replaced half
their officer corps with robots.
You may have done better from the Viet Nam era forward.

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On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 10:20:05 -0500, BAR wrote:


If the entire line is replaces all of the workers with robots is there a
100% productivity increase? In this day and age the productivity
increases are due to improvements in process and technology.

That's only a part of it, and you know that.

The rich get richer, the poor get poorer.

You can't be classified as poor when you have a cellphone, cable TV and
two cars in the driveway.

Outstanding performers are taken care of, those who just show up and
do enough to get a paycheck should work for someone else.

Horse****!

Why. If a guy comes to work on your house which one do you want doing
the work? The outstanding performer or the guy who just kind of barely
gets it done, if it needs five nails he may only put in four but thats
ok it should hold just fine.

You have an assembly line, all your workers are keeping up, how do you
tell who is the "outstanding" worker?

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Don White wrote:
"John" wrote in message
...
snip..
" If I have an assembly line with 10 workers, I replace five with a robot,
and my output remains constant, does that mean the productivity of the
five remaining workers has increased by 100%? Should I double the pay
of the remaining five workers?"
--
John


You might have a point Johnny. Maybe the Army should have replaced half
their officer corps with robots.
You may have done better from the Viet Nam era forward.




They did; Herring was the prototype non-thinking robot.

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On Dec 14, 8:23*am, wrote:
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 07:23:39 -0500, John wrote:
http://www.americanprogress.org/issu...tribution.html

Thunder, do you really believe the 'worker' has increased his output by
20%? Does that line make sense to you?

The fact that you read it in an anti-Bush article doesn't make it true.

As you are clearly too lazy to do your own search:

http://www.bls.gov/lpc/prodybar.htm

Let's see, 7 * 2.5 = 17.5 *You could then extrapolate, considering it is
2008. *So, yes, I do believe the 'worker' has increased his output by
20%, even though, I probably shouldn't believe anything that comes out of
the Bush government.

There is no way in the world the American worker of present day works
harder than the guy in my dad's day. I have been victim to being told
to slow down by a union. In all fairness (which we won't expect from
the other side) I was also told to slow down while on piece work at
Standadyne, a non union shop...

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BAR wrote:

Outstanding performers are taken care of, those who just show up and do
enough to get a paycheck should work for someone else.


Conservaspeak.
GOPers see the union movement as not only a natural constituency of the
Dem Party, but also as one of the major—actually, the only large major
organized relatively-progressive movement in the United States. And,
they need to get rid of that if they are going to get power.*


* Not my quote...found it on DailyKOS and it is completely true.
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On Dec 14, 9:39*am, Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:





Boater wrote:

It's going to be a "fun fun fun" four to eight years, watching
righties everywhere choking on their own bile.

This does sum up your philosophy of life. * Instead of enjoying watching
your political party implement their agenda, that they believe will
strengthening the economy, protecting Americans, while preserving the
Constitution, reestablishing America as a world leader, that can build
consensus to solve global problems etc., you are going to enjoy
"watching righties everywhere chocking on their own bile".

Have you been this way all of your life?

First, Reggie, try to internalize the oft-stated fact that I don't give
a schitt about what you think, feel, or do.

Second, there is nothing inconsistent in believing President Obama with
the help of stronger Democratic majorities in Congress will work
assiduously to reverse the GOP horrors of the last eight years and
improve the quality of life for most Americans and our position in the
world *and* watching righties everywhere choke on their own bile.

I'll be glad to see us moving away from "traditional Republican values,"
such as lynching blacks, beating up gays, and Latinos, and keeping the
"little woman" barefoot, pregnant, and in servitude.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Then why are you so desperately trying to change his mind?

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wrote:
On Dec 14, 8:23 am, wrote:
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 07:23:39 -0500, John wrote:
http://www.americanprogress.org/issu...tribution.html
Thunder, do you really believe the 'worker' has increased his output by
20%? Does that line make sense to you?
The fact that you read it in an anti-Bush article doesn't make it true.
As you are clearly too lazy to do your own search:

http://www.bls.gov/lpc/prodybar.htm

Let's see, 7 * 2.5 = 17.5 You could then extrapolate, considering it is
2008. So, yes, I do believe the 'worker' has increased his output by
20%, even though, I probably shouldn't believe anything that comes out of
the Bush government.

There is no way in the world the American worker of present day works
harder than the guy in my dad's day. I have been victim to being told
to slow down by a union. In all fairness (which we won't expect from
the other side) I was also told to slow down while on piece work at
Standadyne, a non union shop...



Gosh, you'd think someone with your party affiliation and your skills
would be running something.

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On Dec 14, 9:01*am, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:
Boater wrote:

It's going to be a "fun fun fun" four to eight years, watching righties
everywhere choking on their own bile.

This does sum up your philosophy of life. * Instead of enjoying watching
your political party implement their agenda, that they believe will
strengthening the economy, protecting Americans, while preserving the
Constitution, reestablishing America as a world leader, that can build
consensus to solve global problems etc., you are going to enjoy
"watching righties everywhere chocking on their own bile".

Have you been this way all of your life?

Remember, they are the party of intolerance and hate.. This is what
you get with the "far left". Unfortunately, that tends to be the
majority of the party recently...

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On Dec 14, 9:22*am, John wrote:
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 08:14:22 -0600, wrote:
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 09:06:56 -0500, John wrote:

On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 07:51:17 -0600, wrote:

On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 08:45:40 -0500, John wrote:

On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 07:23:49 -0600, wrote:

On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 07:23:39 -0500, John wrote:

http://www.americanprogress.org/issu...tribution.html

Thunder, do you really believe the 'worker' has increased his output
by 20%? Does that line make sense to you?

The fact that you read it in an anti-Bush article doesn't make it
true.

As you are clearly too lazy to do your own search:

http://www.bls.gov/lpc/prodybar.htm

Let's see, 7 * 2.5 = 17.5 *You could then extrapolate, considering it
is 2008. *So, yes, I do believe the 'worker' has increased his output
by 20%, even though, I probably shouldn't believe anything that comes
out of the Bush government.

That's overall productivity, not an increase in productivity of
'workers'.

If I have an assembly line with 10 workers, I replace five with a
robot, and my output remains constant, does that mean the productivity
of the five remaining workers has increased by 100%? *Should I double
the pay of the remaining five workers?

If you believe that, then I can understand your anguish.

Well, seeing you are talking an assembly line, productivity in the
manufacturing sector was 26% between 2000-2007. *I'm well aware of what
"productivity" is, and I'm also quite aware that productivity has
increased, wages haven't kept up, which was the whole point of the first
link posted.

I'd also point out, that article was posted in reply to Just's statement
that "The lazy ones who won't work need the representation." *Well,
apparently, that's not true, now is it?

Have you ever noticed that liberals, when asked a specific question,
will ignore the question, change the subject, or resort to personal
insults - rather than answer the question.

Just's statement is very true. The article you posted had no bearing on
his statement, just as your comparison of productivity and wages has no
bearing on his statement.

Here, I'll ask again:

" If I have an assembly line with 10 workers, I replace five with a
robot,
*and my output remains constant, does that mean the productivity of the
*five remaining workers has increased by 100%? *Should I double the pay
*of the remaining five workers?"

Are you talking labor productivity? *Multifactor productivity? *What
productivity model? *Kurosawa? Gollop?

Widget productivity.

Jeeez.

Have you ever noticed that liberals, when asked a specific question,
will ignore the question, change the subject, or resort to personal
insults - rather than answer the question?

Goodbye. Going golfing. You've proven my point.
--
John- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Not all of them. I'll take to task anyone who lumps ALL people of a
certain political belief into a very narrow group.

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On Dec 14, 9:39*am, Boater wrote:

I'll be glad to see us moving away from "traditional Republican values,"
such as lynching blacks, beating up gays, and Latinos, and keeping the
"little woman" barefoot, pregnant, and in servitude.

What a bunch of crap.. You should check out the articles of the gays
beating up old women in Cal after the passing of prop 8. The lies of
the left, the bombing of Sarah Palin's church.... I think you have
it backwards, it's the intolerant and elitist left that has turned to
militancy. Just like you, they are incompassionate haters and only
interested in self indulgence...

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On Dec 14, 10:38*am, wrote:
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 10:20:05 -0500, BAR wrote:
If the entire line is replaces all of the workers with robots is there a
100% productivity increase? In this day and age the productivity
increases are due to improvements in process and technology.

That's only a part of it, and you know that. *

The rich get richer, the poor get poorer.

You can't be classified as poor when you have a cellphone, cable TV and
two cars in the driveway.

Outstanding performers are taken care of, those who just show up and
do enough to get a paycheck should work for someone else.

Horse****!

Why. If a guy comes to work on your house which one do you want doing
the work? The outstanding performer or the guy who just kind of barely
gets it done, if it needs five nails he may only put in four but thats
ok it should hold just fine.

You have an assembly line, all your workers are keeping up, how do you
tell who is the "outstanding" worker?

Work in that line for a while then ask again... I have a union card, I
have worked for me and the lazy slob next to me who is protected by
the union... Some of those guys weren't worth 5 cents an hour...

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On Dec 14, 11:20*am, Boater wrote:
wrote:
On Dec 14, 8:23 am, wrote:
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 07:23:39 -0500, John wrote:
http://www.americanprogress.org/issu...tribution.html
Thunder, do you really believe the 'worker' has increased his output by
20%? Does that line make sense to you?
The fact that you read it in an anti-Bush article doesn't make it true.
As you are clearly too lazy to do your own search:

http://www.bls.gov/lpc/prodybar.htm

Let's see, 7 * 2.5 = 17.5 *You could then extrapolate, considering it is
2008. *So, yes, I do believe the 'worker' has increased his output by
20%, even though, I probably shouldn't believe anything that comes out of
the Bush government.

There is no way in the world the American worker of present day works
harder than the guy in my dad's day. I have been victim to being told
to slow down by a union. In all fairness (which we won't expect from
the other side) I was also told to slow down while on piece work at
Standadyne, a non union shop...

Gosh, you'd think someone with your party affiliation and your skills
would be running something.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Uh, I am... A business and a race team.... oh, and a successful family
with great kids.. I also take care of my dad and help out my
inlaws...er, I could go on, but for you, it's not worth it...

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wrote:
On Dec 14, 11:20 am, Boater wrote:
wrote:
On Dec 14, 8:23 am, wrote:
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 07:23:39 -0500, John wrote:
http://www.americanprogress.org/issu...tribution.html
Thunder, do you really believe the 'worker' has increased his output by
20%? Does that line make sense to you?
The fact that you read it in an anti-Bush article doesn't make it true.
As you are clearly too lazy to do your own search:
http://www.bls.gov/lpc/prodybar.htm
Let's see, 7 * 2.5 = 17.5 You could then extrapolate, considering it is
2008. So, yes, I do believe the 'worker' has increased his output by
20%, even though, I probably shouldn't believe anything that comes out of
the Bush government.
There is no way in the world the American worker of present day works
harder than the guy in my dad's day. I have been victim to being told
to slow down by a union. In all fairness (which we won't expect from
the other side) I was also told to slow down while on piece work at
Standadyne, a non union shop...
Gosh, you'd think someone with your party affiliation and your skills
would be running something.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Uh, I am... A business and a race team.... oh, and a successful family
with great kids.. I also take care of my dad and help out my
inlaws...er, I could go on, but for you, it's not worth it...


A race team?

snerk

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Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Boater wrote:


It's going to be a "fun fun fun" four to eight years, watching
righties everywhere choking on their own bile.


This does sum up your philosophy of life. Instead of enjoying
watching your political party implement their agenda, that they
believe will strengthening the economy, protecting Americans, while
preserving the Constitution, reestablishing America as a world leader,
that can build consensus to solve global problems etc., you are going
to enjoy "watching righties everywhere chocking on their own bile".

Have you been this way all of your life?


Second, there is nothing inconsistent in believing President Obama with
the help of stronger Democratic majorities in Congress will work
assiduously to reverse the GOP horrors of the last eight years and
improve the quality of life for most Americans and our position in the
world *and* watching righties everywhere choke on their own bile.

As long as you are wasting your time and energy enjoying watching
righties everywhere choke on their own bile, you are losing
opportunities to do something productive.

Has you wife every suggested you talk to someone?

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On Dec 14, 11:39*am, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:
Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Boater wrote:

It's going to be a "fun fun fun" four to eight years, watching
righties everywhere choking on their own bile.

This does sum up your philosophy of life. * Instead of enjoying
watching your political party implement their agenda, that they
believe will strengthening the economy, protecting Americans, while
preserving the Constitution, reestablishing America as a world leader,
that can build consensus to solve global problems etc., you are going
to enjoy "watching righties everywhere chocking on their own bile".

Have you been this way all of your life?

Second, there is nothing inconsistent in believing President Obama with
the help of stronger Democratic majorities in Congress will work
assiduously to reverse the GOP horrors of the last eight years and
improve the quality of life for most Americans and our position in the
world *and* watching righties everywhere choke on their own bile.

As long as you are wasting your time and energy enjoying watching
righties everywhere choke on their own bile, you are losing
opportunities to do something productive.

Has you wife every suggested you talk to someone?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Harry has nothing positive to add to society, only hate and lies...

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Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Boater wrote:


It's going to be a "fun fun fun" four to eight years, watching
righties everywhere choking on their own bile.


This does sum up your philosophy of life. Instead of enjoying
watching your political party implement their agenda, that they
believe will strengthening the economy, protecting Americans, while
preserving the Constitution, reestablishing America as a world
leader, that can build consensus to solve global problems etc., you
are going to enjoy "watching righties everywhere chocking on their
own bile".

Have you been this way all of your life?


Second, there is nothing inconsistent in believing President Obama
with the help of stronger Democratic majorities in Congress will work
assiduously to reverse the GOP horrors of the last eight years and
improve the quality of life for most Americans and our position in the
world *and* watching righties everywhere choke on their own bile.

As long as you are wasting your time and energy enjoying watching
righties everywhere choke on their own bile, you are losing
opportunities to do something productive.

Has you wife every suggested you talk to someone?

Do you have a cognitive problem?

Once again, I am not interested in your opinions, your advice, or your
suggestions. Apparently your "advice" about the phottix cleon is not
widely shared, either.

So...you are entirely useless.

P.S. Watching righties choke on their bile is simply a harmless hobby of
mine.

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Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
wrote:
On Dec 14, 9:01 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:
Boater wrote:

It's going to be a "fun fun fun" four to eight years, watching righties
everywhere choking on their own bile.
This does sum up your philosophy of life. Instead of enjoying watching
your political party implement their agenda, that they believe will
strengthening the economy, protecting Americans, while preserving the
Constitution, reestablishing America as a world leader, that can build
consensus to solve global problems etc., you are going to enjoy
"watching righties everywhere chocking on their own bile".

Have you been this way all of your life?

Remember, they are the party of intolerance and hate.. This is what
you get with the "far left". Unfortunately, that tends to be the
majority of the party recently...

NO, Harry does not represent anyone in any party. He is a frustrated
old man, who is desperately seeking emotional support in rec.boats.
Since he can not find any positive support, he is willing to accept
negative. He is like a 2 yr old whose parents ignore him, so he throws
a tantrum. I would guess he was ignored or abused by his father, and is
looking for some kind of confirmation from anyone.


Ahhh...more psychobabble from the rec.boats pansy.

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On Dec 14, 11:19*am, hk wrote:


* Not my quote...found it on DailyKOS and it is completely true.


LOL... That's the best one I have heard all day!!!

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Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
wrote:
On Dec 14, 9:01 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:
Boater wrote:

It's going to be a "fun fun fun" four to eight years, watching
righties
everywhere choking on their own bile.
This does sum up your philosophy of life. Instead of enjoying
watching
your political party implement their agenda, that they believe will
strengthening the economy, protecting Americans, while preserving the
Constitution, reestablishing America as a world leader, that can build
consensus to solve global problems etc., you are going to enjoy
"watching righties everywhere chocking on their own bile".

Have you been this way all of your life?

Remember, they are the party of intolerance and hate.. This is what
you get with the "far left". Unfortunately, that tends to be the
majority of the party recently...

NO, Harry does not represent anyone in any party. He is a frustrated
old man, who is desperately seeking emotional support in rec.boats.
Since he can not find any positive support, he is willing to accept
negative. He is like a 2 yr old whose parents ignore him, so he
throws a tantrum. I would guess he was ignored or abused by his
father, and is looking for some kind of confirmation from anyone.


Ahhh...more psychobabble from the rec.boats pansy.

No it is a very accurate analysis. Why don't you post us some more
photos of your driveway, and keep us up to date on your UPS shipments?
You know everyone in rec.boats eagerly anticipate all of your UPS
tracking reports.

I have never seen anyone who is so desperately seeking acceptance from
anyone more than you. You are willing to go from being a adamant
supporter for banning all handguns, to using your handgun as a
substitute phallus, just because someone who showed you attention also
owned a handgun.

It is like you are stuck in preadolescence stage of your life.

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On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 09:02:35 -0500, Boater
wrote:



The best answer for "globalization" is the slow but increasing amount of
cooperation and exchange of information between labor unions, so that
eventually there simply is no place for employers to hide from decent
wages, working conditions and benefits.

Personally, I'd like to see more heads of senior corporate execs and
their "advisers" on pikes.

The best and only answer for globalization is protectionism.
Neither the kumbaya Dems or the Wall Street Reps get it.
We been living off the cheap labor of foreigners for years now, and
the IOU's are coming due.
Get used to it. It's all downhill from here unless we start producing
what we're consuming.
BTW, if the Big 3 go bust the sled downhill will have wheels.
All this "re-education" stuff is bull**** too.
Ther are a billion ****ing Indians and a billion ****ing Chinamen who
are already being educated to take care of that piece.
Never underestimate your enemy/competitor.
A country that won't protect itself will go belly up.
Protectionism will happen. Already in the air.
Pat Buchanan for President!

--Vic

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Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
wrote:
On Dec 14, 9:01 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:
Boater wrote:

It's going to be a "fun fun fun" four to eight years, watching
righties
everywhere choking on their own bile.
This does sum up your philosophy of life. Instead of enjoying
watching
your political party implement their agenda, that they believe will
strengthening the economy, protecting Americans, while preserving the
Constitution, reestablishing America as a world leader, that can build
consensus to solve global problems etc., you are going to enjoy
"watching righties everywhere chocking on their own bile".

Have you been this way all of your life?

Remember, they are the party of intolerance and hate.. This is what
you get with the "far left". Unfortunately, that tends to be the
majority of the party recently...

NO, Harry does not represent anyone in any party. He is a frustrated
old man, who is desperately seeking emotional support in rec.boats.
Since he can not find any positive support, he is willing to accept
negative. He is like a 2 yr old whose parents ignore him, so he
throws a tantrum. I would guess he was ignored or abused by his
father, and is looking for some kind of confirmation from anyone.


Ahhh...more psychobabble from the rec.boats pansy.

No it is a very accurate analysis.


More rationalization from Reggie the rec.boats pansy.

Sorry...*still* not interested in the b.s. you spew.

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On Dec 14, 12:05*pm, Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:





Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
wrote:
On Dec 14, 9:01 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:
Boater wrote:

It's going to be a "fun fun fun" four to eight years, watching
righties
everywhere choking on their own bile.
This does sum up your philosophy of life. * Instead of enjoying
watching
your political party implement their agenda, that they believe will
strengthening the economy, protecting Americans, while preserving the
Constitution, reestablishing America as a world leader, that can build
consensus to solve global problems etc., you are going to enjoy
"watching righties everywhere chocking on their own bile".

Have you been this way all of your life?

Remember, they are the party of intolerance and hate.. This is what
you get with the "far left". Unfortunately, that tends to be the
majority of the party recently...

NO, Harry does not represent anyone in any party. *He is a frustrated
old man, who is desperately seeking emotional support in rec.boats.
Since he can not find any positive support, he is willing to accept
negative. *He is like a 2 yr old whose parents ignore him, so he
throws a tantrum. *I would guess he was ignored or abused by his
father, and is looking for some kind of confirmation from anyone.

Ahhh...more psychobabble from the rec.boats pansy.

No it is a very accurate analysis.

More rationalization from Reggie the rec.boats pansy.

Sorry...*still* not interested in the b.s. you spew.- Hide quoted text -

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We know, as long as you are getting attention of some kind... Don't
worry Harry, we will not forget you, we are not haters like you...

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On Dec 14, 12:15*pm, Boater wrote:
wrote:
We know, as long as you are getting attention of some kind... *Don't
worry Harry, we will not forget you, we are not haters like you...

No one is as filled with the bile of "unappreciation" as you are,
scotty, and no one shoots often as with as much "vile" and frequency as
you do.

Read some of your own posts. Even if they make you puke.

You're crazy....

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Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
wrote:
On Dec 14, 9:01 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:
Boater wrote:

It's going to be a "fun fun fun" four to eight years, watching
righties
everywhere choking on their own bile.
This does sum up your philosophy of life. Instead of enjoying
watching
your political party implement their agenda, that they believe will
strengthening the economy, protecting Americans, while preserving the
Constitution, reestablishing America as a world leader, that can
build
consensus to solve global problems etc., you are going to enjoy
"watching righties everywhere chocking on their own bile".

Have you been this way all of your life?

Remember, they are the party of intolerance and hate.. This is what
you get with the "far left". Unfortunately, that tends to be the
majority of the party recently...

NO, Harry does not represent anyone in any party. He is a
frustrated old man, who is desperately seeking emotional support in
rec.boats. Since he can not find any positive support, he is willing
to accept negative. He is like a 2 yr old whose parents ignore him,
so he throws a tantrum. I would guess he was ignored or abused by
his father, and is looking for some kind of confirmation from anyone.


Ahhh...more psychobabble from the rec.boats pansy.

No it is a very accurate analysis.


More rationalization from Reggie the rec.boats pansy.

Sorry...*still* not interested in the b.s. you spew.

Harry,
I have never known anyone who is more obsessed about other people's
bile, puss and ejaculate than you are. Can you imagine what your wife,
friends or neighbors would say if they read any of your posts in
rec.boats? Can you imagine what they would think if they read your 10
plus years of inflammatory hate filled messages?

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On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 08:17:37 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Dec 14, 8:23Â*am, wrote:
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 07:23:39 -0500, John wrote:
http://www.americanprogress.org/issu...tribution.html

Thunder, do you really believe the 'worker' has increased his output by
20%? Does that line make sense to you?

The fact that you read it in an anti-Bush article doesn't make it true.

As you are clearly too lazy to do your own search:

http://www.bls.gov/lpc/prodybar.htm

Let's see, 7 * 2.5 = 17.5 Â*You could then extrapolate, considering it is
2008. Â*So, yes, I do believe the 'worker' has increased his output by
20%, even though, I probably shouldn't believe anything that comes out of
the Bush government.

There is no way in the world the American worker of present day works
harder than the guy in my dad's day. I have been victim to being told
to slow down by a union. In all fairness (which we won't expect from
the other side) I was also told to slow down while on piece work at
Standadyne, a non union shop...

Piece work is sort of a special deal. When I pushed pieces I was
aware that I was in my 20's and strong as a horse.
The guy on the next shift might be 50 and not so healthy or strong.
If I was being timed I had to go slower. Still worked hard, but
shortened my break times. Didn't want to screw up the older guys.
They did plenty of work.

--Vic

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Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:

Harry,
I have never known anyone


Reggie, I *don't care* who you have or haven't known, or what you think.

Got it?

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"Boater" wrote in message
...
wrote:
On Dec 14, 11:20 am, Boater wrote:
wrote:
On Dec 14, 8:23 am, wrote:
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 07:23:39 -0500, John wrote:
http://www.americanprogress.org/issu...tribution.html
Thunder, do you really believe the 'worker' has increased his output
by
20%? Does that line make sense to you?
The fact that you read it in an anti-Bush article doesn't make it
true.
As you are clearly too lazy to do your own search:
http://www.bls.gov/lpc/prodybar.htm
Let's see, 7 * 2.5 = 17.5 You could then extrapolate, considering it
is
2008. So, yes, I do believe the 'worker' has increased his output by
20%, even though, I probably shouldn't believe anything that comes out
of
the Bush government.
There is no way in the world the American worker of present day works
harder than the guy in my dad's day. I have been victim to being told
to slow down by a union. In all fairness (which we won't expect from
the other side) I was also told to slow down while on piece work at
Standadyne, a non union shop...
Gosh, you'd think someone with your party affiliation and your skills
would be running something.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Uh, I am... A business and a race team.... oh, and a successful family
with great kids.. I also take care of my dad and help out my
inlaws...er, I could go on, but for you, it's not worth it...


A race team?

snerk

You haven't heard of the 'Justhate Syndicate'?

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On Dec 14, 1:28*pm, "Don White" wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message

...





wrote:
On Dec 14, 11:20 am, Boater wrote:
wrote:
On Dec 14, 8:23 am, wrote:
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 07:23:39 -0500, John wrote:
http://www.americanprogress.org/issu...tribution.html
Thunder, do you really believe the 'worker' has increased his output
by
20%? Does that line make sense to you?
The fact that you read it in an anti-Bush article doesn't make it
true.
As you are clearly too lazy to do your own search:
http://www.bls.gov/lpc/prodybar.htm
Let's see, 7 * 2.5 = 17.5 *You could then extrapolate, considering it
is
2008. *So, yes, I do believe the 'worker' has increased his output by
20%, even though, I probably shouldn't believe anything that comes out
of
the Bush government.
There is no way in the world the American worker of present day works
harder than the guy in my dad's day. I have been victim to being told
to slow down by a union. In all fairness (which we won't expect from
the other side) I was also told to slow down while on piece work at
Standadyne, a non union shop...
Gosh, you'd think someone with your party affiliation and your skills
would be running something.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Uh, I am... A business and a race team.... oh, and a successful family
with great kids.. I also take care of my dad and help out my
inlaws...er, I could go on, but for you, it's not worth it...

A race team?

snerk

You haven't heard of the 'Justhate Syndicate'?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

No, do they have a website, any literature or are you just making it
up like everything else?

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On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 07:23:49 -0600, wrote:

On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 07:23:39 -0500, John wrote:


http://www.americanprogress.org/issu...tribution.html

Thunder, do you really believe the 'worker' has increased his output by
20%? Does that line make sense to you?

The fact that you read it in an anti-Bush article doesn't make it true.

As you are clearly too lazy to do your own search:

http://www.bls.gov/lpc/prodybar.htm

Let's see, 7 * 2.5 = 17.5 You could then extrapolate, considering it is
2008. So, yes, I do believe the 'worker' has increased his output by
20%, even though, I probably shouldn't believe anything that comes out of
the Bush government.

Well, that's kind of the point. What data do you trust?

Let's use a real life example. The Frito Lay plant down in Killingly
just put three robots into their packing and shipping department.
Replaced 23 workers who were moved to other positions within the
plant. The bots work 24/7/365, settting up boxes, packing them,
palleting them and moving them to a staging area for the warehouse or
the shipping dock.

Who should benefit from the obvious productivity increase - the
company or the workers?

So if Frito's productivity increased, but the wages didn't, whose
fault is that? Even more to the point, why should be workers get more
money because the company invested in a robotic operation that
improved productivity? Are they better off having a job at the same
wage or unemployment?

What's his point? That the worker is oppressed? Why?

What's the measure of productivity he's quoting? Per unit, per hour,
per what? I would think that if a company over 8 years increased it's
productivity by 20% (which is 2.5%/yr by the way) that's not a whole
lot considering inflation, raw material costs, etc. And if your
company has a high labor quotient to the cost of production, that's
almost negligible.

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On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 09:38:43 -0600, wrote:

You have an assembly line, all your workers are keeping up, how do you
tell who is the "outstanding" worker?

Tell me- out of curiosity.

Are you for "merit" pay for teachers?

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Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 09:38:43 -0600, wrote:

You have an assembly line, all your workers are keeping up, how do you
tell who is the "outstanding" worker?

Tell me- out of curiosity.

Are you for "merit" pay for teachers?


On what basis is "merit" being determined, and who makes the determination?