On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 07:26:01 GMT, "John Smith"
wrote:

Maybe innovative solutions could be considered worthy news to some of the
audience? While I agree this group should not be hammered by commercial
e-mails, this type of product is of interest.

Is there a fine line that is acceptable?

Yes, if the poster is involved, in any way, with making money from his
posts, it's SPAM. That line is very broad and easily seen from miles
away.

If you came on here and said, "Those guys at Mikey's Marine and Storm
Door over on Lake Winnepeesexy do a great job fixing Volvo stern
drives." That ISN'T spam because you don't work for Mikey and he's
not paying you to post it. If MIKEY, on the other hand, came on here
to sell his products and services, that IS spam and is not acceptable
because he is making money doing so....

The grey area arrives when someone posts their old VHF radio for sale
or their personal stuff. With me that's ok. But, with others it's
not. That's why we have rec.boats.marketplace for those personal
sales ads. If you want to read about them, that's where they should
be read and posted.

If everyone accepts every company posting ads for new boat stuff or
used boats, etc., rec.boats.anyflavor will soon be just another wasted
giant ad space like all the webpages you visit these days, blinking
spams, snooping spyware, adware installs.

Usenet is one of the few places left on the internet where like-minded
people can sit and chat at their leisure without having some *******
trying to SELL you something. I'd like to think we can keep it that
way, myself. If GPS receivers interest you, go put "GPS receivers"
into www.google.com and there's PLENTY of spam-soaked webpages where
you can read all about it.....



Larry W4CSC

"Larry W4CSC" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 07:26:01 GMT, "John Smith"
wrote:

Is there a fine line that is acceptable?

Yes, if the poster is involved, in any way, with making money from his
posts, it's SPAM. That line is very broad and easily seen from miles
away.

No! That is not the criterion, that's your opinion. As another poster
already pointed out: the charter of this group specifically allows product
announcements. It didn't say anything about who this announcement is allowed
to make, but it should be on-topic.

According to the Net Abuse FAQ,
http://www.cybernothing.org/faqs/net-abuse-faq.html#2.1, spam is defined
below:
"The term "spam," as used on this newsgroup, means "the same article (or
essentially the same article) posted an unacceptably high number of times to
one or more newsgroups." CONTENT IS IRRELEVANT. 'Spam' doesn't mean "ads."
It doesn't mean "abuse." It doesn't mean "posts whose content I object to."
Spam is a funky name for a phenomenon that can be measured pretty
objectively: did that post appear X times? (See 3.1, "Yeah, but how many is
X?')"

Meindert

get lost

"RuggedTech Sales" wrote in message
...
Rayming model TN200. PC and MAC compatible.
WAAS capable for better accuracy
Compact design only 2.32" x 1.85" in size
USB requires no external power
Water-resistant housing w/magnetic mount

More info at: www.ruggedtech.com

Thank you.

I see your name as often as anybodies Larry. I would far rather read this
information which is applicable to sailors than the long bombastic
maliscious diatribes which so often sully these NGs. I guess I can expect
one from you huh?
Anyway, Spammers never give valid return email addresses, this fella did.
As you can see i am also on the Accesswave ISP so i could just go over
there and beat his dog up for you...:^)
rick

On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 03:28:04 GMT, Larry W4CSC wrote:

"Commercial Post".....isn't that like, well, SPAM?

Russ Amiro
Russ Amiro
15 Regwood Drive
Windsor Jct, NS B2T1K1
CA
Phone: 902-861-3746
Fax..: 902-861-1050
Email:

Guess we could FAX ol' Russ a copy of accesswave's AUP about
spammin'.....(c;

Then, again, we could email his message if he
spams the newsgroup again.....

This isn't your free ad space, you know.....


On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 12:37:02 -0400, RuggedTech Sales
wrote:

Rayming model TN200. PC and MAC compatible.
WAAS capable for better accuracy
Compact design only 2.32" x 1.85" in size
USB requires no external power
Water-resistant housing w/magnetic mount

More info at: www.ruggedtech.com

Thank you.



Larry W4CSC



--
Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/

Maybe you should post your rules so we won't inadvertantly offend you

On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 02:37:33 GMT, Larry W4CSC wrote:

On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 07:26:01 GMT, "John Smith"
wrote:

Maybe innovative solutions could be considered worthy news to some of
the
audience? While I agree this group should not be hammered by commercial
e-mails, this type of product is of interest.

Is there a fine line that is acceptable?

Yes, if the poster is involved, in any way, with making money from his
posts, it's SPAM. That line is very broad and easily seen from miles
away.

If you came on here and said, "Those guys at Mikey's Marine and Storm
Door over on Lake Winnepeesexy do a great job fixing Volvo stern
drives." That ISN'T spam because you don't work for Mikey and he's
not paying you to post it. If MIKEY, on the other hand, came on here
to sell his products and services, that IS spam and is not acceptable
because he is making money doing so....

The grey area arrives when someone posts their old VHF radio for sale
or their personal stuff. With me that's ok. But, with others it's
not. That's why we have rec.boats.marketplace for those personal
sales ads. If you want to read about them, that's where they should
be read and posted.

If everyone accepts every company posting ads for new boat stuff or
used boats, etc., rec.boats.anyflavor will soon be just another wasted
giant ad space like all the webpages you visit these days, blinking
spams, snooping spyware, adware installs.

Usenet is one of the few places left on the internet where like-minded
people can sit and chat at their leisure without having some *******
trying to SELL you something. I'd like to think we can keep it that
way, myself. If GPS receivers interest you, go put "GPS receivers"
into www.google.com and there's PLENTY of spam-soaked webpages where
you can read all about it.....



Larry W4CSC



--
Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/

Well put, Jack!.....(c;



On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 05:34:19 -0700, "Jack Rye"
wrote:

get lost

"RuggedTech Sales" wrote in message
.. .
Rayming model TN200. PC and MAC compatible.
WAAS capable for better accuracy
Compact design only 2.32" x 1.85" in size
USB requires no external power
Water-resistant housing w/magnetic mount

More info at: www.ruggedtech.com

Thank you.




Larry W4CSC

Is it just me or did the US and UK just capture 1/3
of the world's sweetest oil supply? What idiot wants to
GIVE IT BACK?!!
Let's do what Europeans have been doing for centuries.
DIVIDE UP THE SPOILS OF OUR CONQUEST! Gas will be
$US0.50/US gallon again, STUPIDS!