Steve, we are the only free, industrialized country without universal
health care. Countries with less wealth that the US can provide their
citizens with proper care and so should the US. There is way too much
waste in government. Illegal wars, like Iraq which costing something
like ten billion a month, and that's estimated to cost trillions
before we're done are just a few things that are using Americans hard
earned tax dollars unwisely and immorally.

Americans pay over 40% of their hard earned money in various obvious
and hidden taxes and yet get less back in goods and services than any
other modern, free, industrialized country in the world.

It's time for true change - a vert smart, calm, non divisive,
respected man who can bring this country together, bring America back
to the good reputation she once held world wide and end this illegal
and immoral war in Iraq.

In the past 8 years the percentage of wealth in the hands of the
wealthy has skyrocketed and the percentage of income (buying power),
in the average person has dropped greatly.

It's said a country gets the leaders it deserves based on the level of
consciousness of its citizens. I hope enough Americans have grown
spiritually, emotionally and intellectually, to elect a person who has
their best interest and the world's at heart - Obama.


Regards,
June

On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 09:49:37 -0500 Jangchub
carved the following into the hard stone of alt.atheism

Wait, Palin went to five colleges to get her degree in what, who
knows.

Jounalism. She wanted to be a sports reporter and ended up a weather
girl.

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good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein

Bill Kearney wrote:

Let me be clear: I do not trust either
candidate. I will, however, vote for the
person that I believe will be the better of the
two (note that this isn't a "lesser of two
evils" argument):

Because he has no experience,

And George W. Bush's experience was???

has never authored
and passed legislation and will turn to
entrenched democrat political machinery (of the
despicable Chicago kind) for all his work?

And George W. Bush turned to the Neo Cons and the
Jewish Cabal forming his foreign policy. Me
thinks I will choose the Chicago gang. The
trains in Chicago run on time!!!


That's a recipe for disaster. But you're too
blind to see the big picture. The country, and
likely the world, will be worse off for your
myopia.

In article
, June
wrote:

You show amazing ignorance. Maybe you ought to research Obamas
education, his honors at Harvard (1st Afro American to be appointed
head of Harvard Law Review), his opting to not take all the big money
jobs offered and decided for a career in service. He even taught
constitutional law for a few years. 12 years in the Illinois
legislature and a couple years as a US senatory. The man has character
and intelligence. Things lacking in his opponent. Think on this:



What if things were switched around.....think about it. Would the
country's collective point of view be different?
Could racism be the culprit? Ponder the following:



What if Barack Obama finished fifth from the bottom of his graduating
class as did John McCain?

What if McCain had only married once, and Obama was a divorcee?

What if Obama was the candidate who left his first wife after a severe
disfiguring car accident, which McCain did.?

What if Obama had met his second wife in a bar and had a long affair
while
he was still married, which McCain did.?

What if Michelle Obama was the wife who not only became addicted to
pain
killers but also acquired them illegally through her charitable
organization, instead of Cindy McCain?


What if Obama had been a member of the Keating Five and been chastised
by his peers, as was McCain.?
(The Keating Five were five United States Senators accused of
corruption
in 1989, igniting a major political scandal as part of the larger
Savings
and Loan crisis of the late 1980s and early 1990s.)

What if McCain was a charismatic, eloquent speaker?

What if Obama couldn't read from a teleprompter?

What if Obama was the one who had military experience that included
discipline problems and a record of crashing seven planes?

What if Obama was the one who was known to display publicly, on many
occasions, a serious anger management problem, including calling his
wife a c**t in front of a group of reporters?

What if Michelle Obama's family had made their millions from beer
distribution?

What if the Obamas had adopted a white child?


What if Obama was 72 years old with 4 bouts of cancer behind him,who
is periodically showing signs of confusion because of what some have
said is the onset of dementia, and irresponsibly picked the least
qualified VP choice and without even properly vetting her, as did
McCain.

You could easily add to this list. If these questions reflected
reality,
do you really believe the election numbers would be as close as they
are?

This is what racism does. It covers up, rationalizes and minimizes
positive qualities in one candidate and emphasizes negative qualities
in
another when there is a color difference.

Educational Background:

Barack Obama:
Columbia University - B.A. Political Science with a Specialization in
International Relations.
Harvard - Juris Doctor (J.D.) Magna Cum Laude

Joseph Biden:
University of Delaware - B.A. in History and B.A. in Political
Science.
Syracuse University College of Law - Juris Doctor (J.D.)

vs.

John McCain:
United States Naval Academy - Class rank: 894 of 899

Sarah Palin:
Hawaii Pacific University - 1 semester (left because she didn't like
the weather)
North Idaho College - 2 semesters - general study
University of Idaho - 2 semesters - journalism
Matanuska-Susitna College - 1 semester
University of Idaho - 3 semesters - B.A. in Journalism

Education isn't everything, but this is about the two highest offices
in
the land as well as our standing in the world. You make the call.


June


Spectacular post! Thanks.

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Bill Kearney wrote:


"paghat" wrote in
message

...
This thread was started by a stealth Obama
supporter who wants us to believe anyone who
doesn't vote for Obama is too stupid to tie his
own shoes.

But Obama will fund a gov't program to tie them
for you, so why bother?

You mean like the current Bush program that is
going to permit CEOs of failed banks to receive
BONUSES with tax payer dollares!!!!

Douglas Berry wrote:

On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 09:49:37 -0500 Jangchub
carved the following into
the hard stone of alt.atheism

Wait, Palin went to five colleges to get her
degree in what, who knows.

Jounalism. She wanted to be a sports reporter
and ended up a weather girl.

I wonder which course taught her that man and
dinosaurs walked the earth at the same time :-)



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2011

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the mysterious. It is the source of all true art
and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and
stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead: his eyes
are closed." - Albert Einstein

On Nov 1, 5:49*am, jgalt wrote:
No doubt they will be playing "Hail to the Thief" whenever King Obama
enters a room. Throughout his career, such as it is, Obama's ONLY
skill has been taking money from people who earned it and giving it to
people who did NOT earn it.

That's it.

That is Obama's "qualification" for higher office.

Apart from stealing money, Obama, like all of his political ilk, will,
and take this as a FACT, steal freedoms from the American people.
Already his strongmen are trying to silence the press. Newspapers that
endorsed McCain have been punished by being removed from the Obama
campaign plane. Poor old Joe the Plumber, whose only crime was that he
spoke his mind, IMMEDIATELY became a victim of the Obama attack
machine, which ILLEGALLY used government data bases to try to
discredit poor Joe.

Look to Hugo Chavez in Venezuela for a preview of what the Commander
and Thief will bring to America.

If you vote for this monstrosity, you truly deserve the country that
you are going to get. Mark my words.


And of course, you have proof of this thievery.

I can't wait to see it so I can say because of you, I will vote for
McCain.

Bring it on... change my vote.

Tom

On Nov 1, 7:10*am, Keith nuttle wrote:
Paul E. Lehmann wrote:
jgalt wrote:

No doubt they will be playing "Hail to the
Thief" whenever King Obama enters a room.
Throughout his career, such as it is, Obama's
ONLY skill has been taking money from people who
earned it and giving it to people who did NOT
earn it.

That's it.

Hardy har har. *McLame and the Re-puke-licans
re-distribution game is to take money from those
who really do work hard and earn it and give it
to those who don't work hard, don't earn it and
already have plenty of money. The progressive tax
system has been the law of the land for a LONG
time now. *Get over it.

That is Obama's "qualification" for higher
office.

Apart from stealing money, Obama, like all of
his political ilk, will, and take this as a
FACT, steal freedoms from the American people.

Another hardy har har. *You say this after the
Bush administration, with the help of McShame,
instituted spying on US Citizens and declared
anyone who disagree with them as "unpatriotic"
Surely you jest.

Already his strongmen are trying to silence the
press. Newspapers that endorsed McCain have been
punished by being removed from the Obama
campaign plane. Poor old Joe the Plumber, whose
only crime was that he spoke his mind,
IMMEDIATELY became a victim of the Obama attack
machine, which ILLEGALLY used government data
bases to try to discredit poor Joe.

Well, Joe does have other crimes he committed such
as failure to pay his taxes. *And, although not a
crime, he is NOT a licensed plumber and he is a
pathological LIAR. He does not make enough money
to buy the plumbing business he works for and
even if he could, it does not bring in revenue in
excess of $250K. *The dumb **** should know that
if he EVER hopes to afford to buy the business,
Obama's tax plan would put more money in his
pocket to do so.

Look to Hugo Chavez in Venezuela for a preview
of what the Commander and Thief will bring to
America.

Look at Gordon Liddy, an American home grown
terrorist who McShame is pround to call a friend.

If you vote for this monstrosity, you truly
deserve the country that you are going to get.
Mark my words.

Does any one know if obama has been told what his responsibilities would
be under the Constitution? *biden has already shown he does not know
with his comments on Cheney and his participation as the head of the Senate.


Uh, don't you mean Palin? She wants to run the Senate and push through
legislation.

Obama is a Constitutional scholar, so it hardly seems necessary for
someone to tell him what the responsibilities of the Presidency are.

Tom

"June" wrote in message
...
You show amazing ignorance. Maybe you ought to research Obamas
education, his honors at Harvard (1st Afro American to be appointed
head of Harvard Law Review), his opting to not take all the big money
jobs offered and decided for a career in service. He even taught
constitutional law for a few years. 12 years in the Illinois
legislature and a couple years as a US senatory. The man has character
and intelligence. Things lacking in his opponent. Think on this:

His intelligence and education do NOT make him qualified to be president.
Electing someone solely because they look good, sound good, smell good, and
is one of the intelluctual elite is a recipe for disastor. Hitler looked
good, sounded good, smelled good, and look what he did?

Zoot wrote:
"June" wrote in message
...
You show amazing ignorance. Maybe you ought to research Obamas
education, his honors at Harvard (1st Afro American to be appointed
head of Harvard Law Review), his opting to not take all the big money
jobs offered and decided for a career in service. He even taught
constitutional law for a few years. 12 years in the Illinois
legislature and a couple years as a US senatory. The man has character
and intelligence. Things lacking in his opponent. Think on this:

His intelligence and education do NOT make him qualified to be president.
Electing someone solely because they look good, sound good, smell good, and
is one of the intelluctual elite is a recipe for disastor. Hitler looked
good, sounded good, smelled good, and look what he did?



Bush was "educated." What does that say?

The fact that Obama has run an exceptionally successful campaign
compared to McCain's miserable failure says more than enough about which
man is qualified to be president.

..

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