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![]() Pump action 12g shot gun alternating between 00 buck (1st load) and slugs. For more distance, an good old bolt action Mauser. Both are simple, effective and should not cost too much. Forget the fancy 'boat guns'. Too tempting to be 'admired' by customs. Also forget the hand gun, if folks get that close it is another story anyway. Training and willingness to pull the tiger (as well as being able to know when the time is right and when it is not) is more important that the firearm. -al- |
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On Thu, 29 May 2008 19:45:17 GMT, Bruce in alaska
wrote: If you encounter Bad Guys who can get you from out passed 100 Yards, then your just out of luck anyway, and are going to have a Bad Day. Favorite pirate weapon is the AK47. It outranges a shotgun, but you can have a rifle as well, if either you or them can actually get any hits. If the sea is calm you might, but hitting is very hard if the boat is moving around. Expect to shoot at close range. Many serious pirates have RPG antitank rockets. Basically if they seriously come for you your ass is grass, or at least you will lose wallet, watch, handheld radios, the stuff they can easily grab. On the other hand, a few tracers in their general direction before they get close, and they might decide to call it a day. Weapons are a good idea, but you will probably be outnumbered and outgunned. The odds are on your side to not be bothered except in a few places. Stay out of the known pirate waters. And have at least a shotgun,.The good news is that you are likely to encounter fishermen, not really tough guys, grabbing an opportunity, and those can maybe be shot or scared off. Casady |
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On May 29, 3:37*pm, (Richard Casady)
wrote: On Thu, 29 May 2008 19:45:17 GMT, Bruce in alaska wrote: If you encounter Bad Guys who can get you from out passed 100 Yards, then your just out of luck anyway, and are going to have a Bad Day. Favorite pirate weapon is the AK47. Arrrrrrr a pirate with 3 weapons http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voeMq...eature=related Fred It outranges a shotgun, but you can have a rifle as well, if either you or them can actually get any hits. If the sea is calm you might, but hitting is very hard if the boat is moving around. Expect to shoot at close range. Many serious pirates have RPG antitank rockets. Basically if they seriously come for you your ass is grass, or at least you will lose wallet, watch, handheld radios, the stuff they can easily grab. On the other hand, a few tracers in their general direction before they get close, and they might decide to call it a day. Weapons are a good idea, but you will probably be outnumbered and outgunned. The odds are on your side to not be bothered except in a few places. Stay out of the known pirate waters. And have at least a shotgun,.The good news is that you are likely to encounter fishermen, not really tough guys, grabbing an opportunity, and those can maybe be shot or scared off. Casady |
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![]() wrote in message ... On May 29, 3:37 pm, (Richard Casady) wrote: On Thu, 29 May 2008 19:45:17 GMT, Bruce in alaska wrote: If you encounter Bad Guys who can get you from out passed 100 Yards, then your just out of luck anyway, and are going to have a Bad Day. Favorite pirate weapon is the AK47. Arrrrrrr a pirate with 3 weapons http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voeMq...eature=related Fred This one is more instructional: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfUS8...eature=related |
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On Thu, 29 May 2008 19:45:17 GMT, Bruce in alaska
wrote: you can always claim that the Shotgun, doubles as your Emergency Flare Launcher. If you encounter Bad Guys who can get you from out passed 100 Yards, then your just out of luck anyway, and are going to have a Be sure you have the flares. I carry a thrift shop five buck aluminum ballbat on the back seat floor. I also carry a two buck thrift shop softball which gives my lawyer something to work with, if some cop says it is a dangerous weapon. Hell, nearly anything is a better weapon than bare hands, and those are dangerous. Casady |
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![]() What are you going to use the gun for? Recreation? Hunting? Utility? Killing people? |
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On Thu, 29 May 2008 14:44:21 -0700, "Whizbang McGurk"
wrote: What are you going to use the gun for? Recreation? 12 ga shotgun Hunting? 12 ga shotgun Utility? 12 ga shotgun Killing people? 12 ga shotgun. Any questions? Casady |
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![]() "Richard Casady" wrote in message ... On Thu, 29 May 2008 14:44:21 -0700, "Whizbang McGurk" wrote: What are you going to use the gun for? Recreation? 12 ga shotgun Hunting? 12 ga shotgun Utility? 12 ga shotgun Killing people? 12 ga shotgun. Any questions? Casady 12 ga shotgun is very limited in range and due to the shell size, limited in firepower and very limited in accuracy. The 12 ga finds limited use. |
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On Thu, 29 May 2008 17:38:01 -0600, "Whizbang McGurk"
wrote: "Richard Casady" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 29 May 2008 14:44:21 -0700, "Whizbang McGurk" wrote: What are you going to use the gun for? Recreation? 12 ga shotgun Hunting? 12 ga shotgun Utility? 12 ga shotgun Killing people? 12 ga shotgun. Any questions? Casady 12 ga shotgun is very limited in range and due to the shell size, limited in firepower and very limited in accuracy. The 12 ga finds limited use. I have a shotgun suitable for skeet, birds from quail to geese, deer, and people. They put one in every cop car instead of an automatic weapon, because they lack sufficient firepower? In Iowa shotguns are required for deer, and special slug barrels will group four inches at 100 yards.The most popular deer rifle will most often do little better.I don't call that seriously limited in accuracy. Anything over that range with a rifle calls for a nice steady support for the rifle, something unavailable at .sea. As for. firepower, nothing is deadlier at close range, and 8 shots is generally enough. If you think you can hit anything at even 100 yards with a rifle from a moving boat, you are probably deluded. A shotgun is powerful enough for lion at close range. Is that what you mean by lacking in firepower. One expert can put a pound of lead in the air in less than two seconds with a pump gun. He can shuck it faster than most autos cycle. The guy can break 8 clay targets hand thrown together, in less a second. Satterwhite is his name. The job calls for a fifty cal mg, actually. Hose the outboard on the pirate boat instead of just killing them all. Let those surviving the gunfire paddle two hundred miles to shore. Their boat is probably unsinkable although you might set it on fire. Be nice to make them swim a hundred miles or more. Toss them a gallon jug of water so they can fight over it. Then leave. If you call the cops maybe they will just do time. Casady |
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