What's the best boat gun to have.
What should I look for in a good boat gun (Pistol & Rifles).

Should you declare you have weapons aboard or just have a good stash
spot for overseas cruising?

Please no Wilbur answers. I'm looking for real knowledge and practical
experience, not wanna-be advice.

Fred

On Thu, 29 May 2008 10:54:38 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

What's the best boat gun to have.
What should I look for in a good boat gun (Pistol & Rifles).

Should you declare you have weapons aboard or just have a good stash
spot for overseas cruising?

Please no Wilbur answers. I'm looking for real knowledge and practical
experience, not wanna-be advice.

Get a 12 ga pump or semiauto shotgun. Mossberg made one specially for
boats, all stainless. Many places where the shotgun is ok if declared
take a dim view of pistols. So show the shotgun, and hide the pistol
really really well. Or don't have one.

Casady

On May 29, 10:26*am, (Richard Casady)
wrote:
Get a 12 ga pump or semiauto shotgun. Mossberg made one specially for
boats, all stainless. Many places where the shotgun is ok if declared
take a dim view of pistols. So show the shotgun, and hide the pistol
really really well. Or don't have one.

Casady

Agreed......... 12 ga pump 18" barrel, use #4 shot or goose shot. No
need for the 3" mag or 00/buck.
Big pattern , easy to mover wepon around confined areas, and wont put
too may leaks in your boat or kill the friendly on the other side of
the bulk head.
USMC adopted a newer auto loader shotgun. Check that out for ball
dragging effect. Or go to discount store and get a Rem 870 for $200.

Bob

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What's the best boat gun to have.
What should I look for in a good boat gun (Pistol & Rifles).

Should you declare you have weapons aboard or just have a good stash
spot for overseas cruising?

Please no Wilbur answers. I'm looking for real knowledge and practical
experience, not wanna-be advice.

Fred

Again with the stupid questions. Any time some Rube asks what's the *best*
anything it indicates to me they are too stupid to understand that there is
no such thing as *best* for every situation.

There can only be a best for specific situations. For example, if you wished
to ward off a small pirate vessel that was approaching you a 50 caliper
sniper rifle would be the best by virtue of the fact that you could hit them
before they could likely get in range to hit you unless they were similarly
armed or had a 50 caliber machine gun mounted on deck. An Exocet missile
would be your only hope in that case.

And, if you are in a close quarters situation a 12 gauge shotgun would
probably be best to repel boarders. But watch the stays and shrouds! And a
pistol would be best to keep near your berth to blow away boarders who
happened to have gotten into your accommodation.

So, as you can see, you must first evaluate your cruising grounds and then
ship the appropriate weapon(s) for those situation most likely to eventuate.
Myself, I ship a fully automatic Kalishnakov and long banana magazines, a 12
gauge, double barreled, sawed off but legal length shotgun, a 357 magnum
revolver with alternate snake shot and jacketed hollowpoint rounds, and a 50
caliper sniper rifle with night scope and range finder/computer for windage
and autoheight for distance (windage) calibration. Given a steady platform I
can blow an enemy's head off his shoulders at 1/2 mile distance.

You've got to decide if you're a man first, though, before you ship the
first gun. If you don't view a firearm as deadly force and deadly force only
but as some "deterrent" (like a weenie liberal) then you'd best remain
unarmed.

If you decide to carry weapons do declare them but do have one pistol well
hidden that you don't declare. But if you should have reason to use that
hidden gun make sure you are in a place where you can get rid of any bodies.
You don't want the authorities to know you were holding out on them. If they
find out you were you can kiss your declared arsenal goodbye (and probably
your freedom as well) as most countries require you to turn weapons over to
the authorities for impoundment until you're ready to depart their port or
country.

I hope this helps.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Wilbur Hubbard
Allied Seawind 32, "Sea Isle"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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What's the best boat gun to have.
What should I look for in a good boat gun (Pistol & Rifles).

Should you declare you have weapons aboard or just have a good stash
spot for overseas cruising?

Please no Wilbur answers. I'm looking for real knowledge and practical
experience, not wanna-be advice.

Fred

If you have a Customs Locker, built into your vessel, then having a
FireArm aboard isn't a BIG Issue. You should ALWAYS declare a Firearm
aboard, upon entry into a Non-Flagged Country, or you are subject to
their Criminal LAWS regarding illegal Possession of a Firearm in that
country. Some countries are considerably more strict about this issue
than others, but MOST countries have Laws about such things and
International LAW, will provide some protection,IF you have a Customs
Locker. For "Me" a 12 Ga. Stainless Steel Pump Action Shotgun and a
couple of boxes, of 00 Buck, and 1 Oz Slugs , are generally enough for
most Self Protection. Solid Firepower out to about 100 Yards, and you
can always claim that the Shotgun, doubles as your Emergency Flare
Launcher. If you encounter Bad Guys who can get you from out passed
100 Yards, then your just out of luck anyway, and are going to have a
Bad Day.

--
Bruce in alaska
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On Thu, 29 May 2008 10:54:38 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

What's the best boat gun to have.
What should I look for in a good boat gun (Pistol & Rifles).

Should you declare you have weapons aboard or just have a good stash
spot for overseas cruising?

Please no Wilbur answers. I'm looking for real knowledge and practical
experience, not wanna-be advice.

Fred

Just get the biggest flare gun that you can find. Aim for the other boat's
fuel tank

Pump action 12g shot gun alternating between 00 buck (1st load) and
slugs. For more distance, an good old bolt action Mauser.

Both are simple, effective and should not cost too much. Forget the
fancy 'boat guns'. Too tempting to be 'admired' by customs.

Also forget the hand gun, if folks get that close it is another story
anyway.

Training and willingness to pull the tiger (as well as being able to
know when the time is right and when it is not) is more important that
the firearm.


-al-

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On Thu, 29 May 2008 10:54:38 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

What's the best boat gun to have.
What should I look for in a good boat gun (Pistol & Rifles).

Should you declare you have weapons aboard or just have a good stash
spot for overseas cruising?

Please no Wilbur answers. I'm looking for real knowledge and practical
experience, not wanna-be advice.

Fred

Where did you hide the guns on Red Cloud?


Duh! Capt. Joe was skipper of the ill-fated, ill prepared, ill-sailed and
ill-conceived pilothouse motor sailer, Red Cloud. Seven Seas Sinbad is
posting from Miami Beach. That's a far cry from Texas. Ain't no way Joe
could have gotten from Texas to Miami Beach unless he drove or flew. Ha ha
ha ha!

--
Gregory Hall

On Thu, 29 May 2008 19:45:17 GMT, Bruce in alaska
wrote:

If you encounter Bad Guys who can get you from out passed
100 Yards, then your just out of luck anyway, and are going to have a
Bad Day.

Favorite pirate weapon is the AK47. It outranges a shotgun, but you
can have a rifle as well, if either you or them can actually get any
hits. If the sea is calm you might, but hitting is very hard if the
boat is moving around. Expect to shoot at close range. Many serious
pirates have RPG antitank rockets. Basically if they seriously come
for you your ass is grass, or at least you will lose wallet, watch,
handheld radios, the stuff they can easily grab.
On the other hand, a few tracers in their general direction before
they get close, and they might decide to call it a day. Weapons are a
good idea, but you will probably be outnumbered and outgunned. The
odds are on your side to not be bothered except in a few places. Stay
out of the known pirate waters. And have at least a shotgun,.The good
news is that you are likely to encounter fishermen, not really tough
guys, grabbing an opportunity, and those can maybe be shot or scared
off.

Casady

On May 29, 1:12*pm, wrote:
On Thu, 29 May 2008 10:54:38 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
What's the best boat gun to have.
What should I look for in a good boat gun (Pistol & Rifles).

Should you declare you have weapons aboard or just have a good stash
spot for overseas cruising?

Please no Wilbur answers. I'm looking for real knowledge and practical
experience, not wanna-be advice.

Fred

Where did you hide the guns on Red Cloud?

? WTF

Fred