It is obvious that change is coming to Cuba. The old Communists are
retiring. Soon,, who knows.

I've flown over Cuba a couple of times. It is a very beautiful island. And
all that warm, blue sea.

And those harbors! With no marina's!

I would love to sail to Havana. And I'm sure I'm not alone.

From what I've read, there have been boaters going to Cuba for years,
although it is illegal.

Soon it will be legal!

Viva la Cuba .. !!!

What a trip... down the coast, stop at some keys,, a little Key West and
then

Set the sails... we are heading to Havana!

"Sir Thomas of Cannondale" wrote in message
news:SsAuj.9482$wG2.1709@trndny09...
It is obvious that change is coming to Cuba. The old Communists are
retiring. Soon,, who knows.

I've flown over Cuba a couple of times. It is a very beautiful island.
And all that warm, blue sea.

And those harbors! With no marina's!

I would love to sail to Havana. And I'm sure I'm not alone.

From what I've read, there have been boaters going to Cuba for years,
although it is illegal.

It might well be illegal for those in "the land of the free" but not for the
rest of us and it's well worth the trip.

--
Chris
Ignoti nulla cupido

Sir Thomas of Cannondale wrote:

From what I've read, there have been boaters going to Cuba for years,
although it is illegal.

No, it is not. It is however illegal to spend dollars in Cuba under
regulations of the Office of Foreign Assets Control of the US Treasury.
Individuals have been dancing around these regulations in many ways for many
years.

--
Good luck and good sailing.
s/v Kerry Deare of Barnegat
http://home.comcast.net/~kerrydeare

wrote:
Dave wrote:
"Armond Perretta" said:

From what I've read, there have been boaters going to Cuba for
years, although it is illegal.

No, it is not. It is however illegal to spend dollars in Cuba under
regulations of the Office of Foreign Assets Control of the US
Treasury. Individuals have been dancing around these regulations in
many ways for many years.

Now don't confuse all those folks with the facts. It's a lot easier
to play the victim if you can say those evil benighted gummint
people won't let you go there than it is to say they won't let you
spend money there.

Let us know all about your trips to Cuba and how you managed to eat,
find lodging, and get around without spending any money, Dave.

I'm not sure if you're responding to me or to Dave. In any case, you can
read about _my_ 1996 trip and my experiences with the Cuban economy on my
web pages. A truly remarkable trip, and please let me know what you think.

Kindest regards,

--
Good luck and good sailing.
s/v Kerry Deare of Barnegat
http://home.comcast.net/~kerrydeare

wrote:
"Armond Perretta" wrote:

... you can read about _my_ 1996 trip and my experiences with the Cuban
economy on my web pages ...

... I'm glad (and envious) you were able to visit Cuba. I don't think you
could repeat it under the present restrictions ...

You are probably right. I know I myself wouldn't take chances these days
considering the large effort in place to track and control yachts in and
around Cuba. The stakes are simply too large and the deck is stacked. If
you encounter a military vessel with large guns pointing at you, you obey
first and "take actions" later. Too bad that this much effort is
essentially wasted on a trivial point, when there are so many other issues
unaddressed.

--
Good luck and good sailing.
s/v Kerry Deare of Barnegat
http://home.comcast.net/~kerrydeare

"Dave" wrote in message
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On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:00:05 -0500, said:

Let us know all about your trips to Cuba and how you managed to eat,
find lodging, and get around without spending any money, Dave.

Meanwhile, the US government has declared that they can seize your
boat in US waters if they even suspect you might be considering Cuba
as your destination. There is no due process involved. If your boat
seems like it is equipped to make it to Cuba, that's all they need.
You do not get your boat or other property back, either.

Ah, poor Charlie, victim of a repressive regime. Ever considered
emigrating
from CT to CA? Oh, wait a minute. What about Cuba as your permanent home?
That would solve the problem.


Do you think Canada would have him?

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

Capt. JG wrote:


Do you think Canada would have him?


No fricken way! Remember, we're more pinko than Cuba! We've been
enjoying vacationing in Cuba for many years. More than 40 of them
without running into "The Ugly American"! ;-)

Cheers
Marty

Capt. JG wrote:
Do you think Canada would have him?

Only if he brings his own snow shovel.

Marty wrote:
No fricken way! Remember, we're more pinko than Cuba! We've been
enjoying vacationing in Cuba for many years. More than 40 of them
without running into "The Ugly American"! ;-)


You didn't go to the right place. Back in the 1980s, I spent a few
summers in a lovely resort at the western end of Cuba. Marvelous
sailing there! The social schedule was a bit hectic though. I hear
that the new management has changed everything and gotten an entirely
different clientele

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

On Feb 20, 12:24*am, Marty wrote:


No fricken way! Remember, we're more pinko than Cuba! *We'vebeenenjoyingvacationing in Cuba for *many years. More than 40 of them
without running into "The Ugly American"! *;-)


Oh please, only inches away on my map, you've got Disney which proves
It's A Small World After All. According to that exhibit, there's no
longer a creature called the Ugly American.

mk5000

Hiro Nakamura: My only concern is should I hide my true identity? A
costume maybe?
Ando Masahashi: You start talking about capes and tights and I'm out
of here. --Heroes

wrote in message
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On 19 Feb 2008 13:26:02 -0600, Dave wrote:

On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:00:05 -0500, said:

Let us know all about your trips to Cuba and how you managed to eat,
find lodging, and get around without spending any money, Dave.

Meanwhile, the US government has declared that they can seize your
boat in US waters if they even suspect you might be considering Cuba
as your destination. There is no due process involved. If your boat
seems like it is equipped to make it to Cuba, that's all they need.
You do not get your boat or other property back, either.

Ah, poor Charlie, victim of a repressive regime. Ever considered
emigrating
from CT to CA? Oh, wait a minute. What about Cuba as your permanent home?
That would solve the problem.

I look forward to sailing to Cuba. It's at the top of my list of
places I'd like to visit. The day may not be that far off when it
becomes possible. Fidel's brother is pretty old, and the Bush
administration is greased and ready to slide out of Washington. You
would realize that there was change in the air if your stinky smoking
habit didn't obscure it. :')



Count me in as a Cuba bound sailor... I cant' wait. Beautiful beaches, the
music, the food...

The Cuba issue is just one more reason our country SUCKS. We spend Billions
in China,
but if you live in Miami you can't visit Cuba? Dah?

Couple of days ago, our stupid president,,, the dumbest moron who has ever
held the
highest office in the US ... recogized Kosovo as a country!

Kosovo? An independent country?

The village idiot tells Kosovo it is now an independent country, no problem.

But 90 miles from Key West there is an island, big one,, Cuba .. and we
Americans can't visit?

Why? Tell me one reason it is ok to go spend money in communist Vietnam, a
country we actually
fought a war in,, and left with out asses kicked .. yet I can't take my F'n
sailboat to Cuba.

How about telling the village idiot that it isn't 1960. Yo,, George .. get
the F.. out! Go back to Texas
and get drunk. Take you little drunken daughters with you! And the drunken
dog.

When kids one hundred years from now study history, they will turn to the
chapter .. "The end of the United States"
The first sentence will start "Led by a corrupt, stupid, drunken, moron,
...... "