Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 22:08:57 -0500, "Leanne" wrote:

Wait until one of these clowns rolls you beam ends and see happy you are.
They know what they are doing when they will not even turn around on the
bridge while I was sounding shorts blasts of the air horns.

Some people roll me, and some get rolled by me. It's part of boating
and being on the water. I am constantly amazed at the hue and cry
raised by large seaworthy sailboats when they encounter a wake. It is
not written in stone anywhere that the water will always be flat.

Spoken like a true powerboater. While that may make sense to you,
sailors can generally say, "I get rolled often by irresponsible
powerboaters, and I've never rolled anyone."

FWIW, since I got my catamaran, I haven't been bothered much by wakes -
in fact on the ICW I frequently told following PB's to come through at
full throttle because the wake doesn't affect me. However, on numerous
occasions I've been blasted by large wakes - over three feet - from
sport fisherman doing 20+ knots in a no wake zone. When you're on a
smaller boat, this can be dangerous.

A few days ago, someone from my winter marina was going through (almost
empty) Boston Harbor and got stopped by the State Police for a large
wake. Where are they in the Summer when its actually a problem!

On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:19:42 -0500, jeff wrote:

Spoken like a true powerboater. While that may make sense to you,
sailors can generally say, "I get rolled often by irresponsible
powerboaters, and I've never rolled anyone."

The problem is that many sailors think that all powerboaters leaving a
wake are irresponsible just because the wake inconveniences them in
some way, and don't even get me started on sailboats who expect the
right-of-way while under power, or who suddenly tack in front of a
moving powerboat and demand the right-of-way. Fortunately most of
them seem to understand that five blasts on the air horn is a danger
signal. My other pet peeve is sailboats who don't know how to analyze
a crossing situation, not realizing that I've already altered course
to pass astern of them.

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:19:42 -0500, jeff
wrote:

Spoken like a true powerboater. While that may make
sense to you,
sailors can generally say, "I get rolled often by
irresponsible
powerboaters, and I've never rolled anyone."

The problem is that many sailors think that all
powerboaters leaving a
wake are irresponsible just because the wake
inconveniences them in
some way, and don't even get me started on sailboats who
expect the
right-of-way while under power, or who suddenly tack in
front of a
moving powerboat and demand the right-of-way.


Yes, it must be so difficult for you to turn that wheel a
bit. Do you have limp wrists?


Fortunately most of
them seem to understand that five blasts on the air horn
is a danger
signal.

Oh brother, I've seen this type before, blasting through a
crowd of boats, air horns and all.

SBV

On Wed, 7 Nov 2007 10:48:27 -0500, "Scotty" wrote:

Yes, it must be so difficult for you to turn that wheel a
bit. Do you have limp wrists?

Would you tack in front of a freighter or cruise ship and expect them
to alter course for you? The issues are the same, only on a different
scale.

See Colregs Rule 17 (a) (i)

Rule 17

Action by Stand-on Vessel

(a)

(i) Where one of two vessels is to keep out of the way of the other
shall keep her course and speed.

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Wed, 7 Nov 2007 10:48:27 -0500, "Scotty"
wrote:

Yes, it must be so difficult for you to turn that wheel a
bit. Do you have limp wrists?

Would you tack in front of a freighter or cruise ship and
expect them
to alter course for you?


Of course not, don't be ridiculous. Not germane to this
discussion.



The issues are the same,



Hardly!


only on a different
scale.


Oh, the same but different, huh?


Stop making excuses for your childish actions.

SBV

On Wed, 7 Nov 2007 18:00:11 -0500, "Scotty" wrote:

Stop making excuses for your childish actions.

Pot kettle black. Go back to your toy boat and continue whinning.

Carry on.

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Wed, 7 Nov 2007 18:00:11 -0500, "Scotty"
wrote:

Stop making excuses for your childish actions.

Pot kettle black. Go back to your toy boat and continue
whinning.

Carry on.



What is the size limit for a ''toy boat''?

You sound like a 2nd grade bully.


SBV

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:19:42 -0500, jeff wrote:

Spoken like a true powerboater. While that may make sense to you,
sailors can generally say, "I get rolled often by irresponsible
powerboaters, and I've never rolled anyone."

The problem is that many sailors think that all powerboaters leaving a
wake are irresponsible just because the wake inconveniences them in
some way, and don't even get me started on sailboats who expect the
right-of-way while under power, or who suddenly tack in front of a
moving powerboat and demand the right-of-way. Fortunately most of
them seem to understand that five blasts on the air horn is a danger
signal. My other pet peeve is sailboats who don't know how to analyze
a crossing situation, not realizing that I've already altered course
to pass astern of them.


Perhaps you aren't changing course dramatically enough for them to figure it
out....

In any case, there's no excuse for being ignorant of the rules. I've never
seen a sailboat "suddenly" tack in front of a powerboat. I have seen and
been on sailboats that were tacking back and forth down a channel and having
the PBer expect them to get out of the way.

You are responsible for your wake... PBer or sailor.

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On Wed, 7 Nov 2007 08:55:43 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

You are responsible for your wake... PBer or sailor.

Yes, everyone knows that they are responsible for *damage* caused by
their wake. That does not include inconvenience or damaged egos
however.

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Wed, 7 Nov 2007 08:55:43 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

You are responsible for your wake... PBer or sailor.

Yes, everyone knows that they are responsible for *damage* caused by
their wake. That does not include inconvenience or damaged egos
however.


Please show me where I said it damaged my ego or was inconvenient? I said
that it endangered my crew.

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