Peggy...here on the east coast, we discharge the heads through the hull.
If I bought a modest sized sailboat inland that might have a chemical toilet
with a pumpout fitting on the deck...
how hard would it be to convert to a thru hull discharge?
Would I have to tear the old head out and buy a new one?

Don White wrote:
Peggy...here on the east coast, we discharge the heads through the hull.

There are no coastal (or inland) waters in the whole US--east coast,
west coast, or Gulf--in which it's legal to discharge raw untreated
toilet waste directly overboard or dump a tank. So unless you're only
using the the head when you're out to sea at least 3 miles from the
nearest point on the whole US coastline, or it's going through CG
certified Type I MSD (device that treats waste before discharging it
overboard) first, you're discharging it overboard illegally.

If I bought a modest sized sailboat inland that might have a chemical toilet
with a pumpout fitting on the deck...
how hard would it be to convert to a thru hull discharge?

You'd only have to install a y-valve in the pumpout hose, and a line
coming off it that goes to the through-hull, with a macerator pump
inline to empty the tank.

Would I have to tear the old head out and buy a new one?

Nope.

Peggie
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Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html

"Peggie Hall" wrote
Don White wrote:
Peggy...here on the east coast, we discharge the heads through the hull.

There are no coastal (or inland) waters in the whole US--east coast,
west coast, or Gulf--in which it's legal to discharge raw untreated
toilet waste directly overboard or dump a tank. So unless you're only
using the the head when you're out to sea at least 3 miles from the
nearest point on the whole US coastline, or it's going through CG
certified Type I MSD (device that treats waste before discharging it
overboard) first, you're discharging it overboard illegally.

If I bought a modest sized sailboat inland that might have a chemical
toilet
with a pumpout fitting on the deck...
how hard would it be to convert to a thru hull discharge?

You'd only have to install a y-valve in the pumpout hose, and a line
coming off it that goes to the through-hull, with a macerator pump
inline to empty the tank.


The right answer is "Not hard at all. Call Boat US or West Marine, give them
your credit card info and order a Lectra-San. Install it between your toilet
and thru hull."

Thanks for a great book Peggy.

Vito wrote:
The right answer is "Not hard at all. Call Boat US or West Marine, give them
your credit card info and order a Lectra-San. Install it between your toilet
and thru hull."

It would be if the boat has a marine toilet. But unfortunately, that
wouldn't work to dump a permanently installed portapotty (which is what
he asked about) 'cuz a Lectra/San can only accept a maximum of 1 gallon
at a time.

Thanks for a great book Peggy.

Glad you find it useful!


Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html

Vito wrote:
The right answer is "Not hard at all. Call Boat US or West Marine, give them
your credit card info and order a Lectra-San. Install it between your toilet
and thru hull."

It would be if the boat has a marine toilet. But unfortunately, that
wouldn't work to dump a permanently installed portapotty (which is what
he asked about) 'cuz a Lectra/San can only accept a maximum of 1 gallon
at a time.

Thanks for a great book Peggy.

Glad you find it useful!


Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html

I guess we're a bit behind you in our regulations.
I sail in Nova Scotia waters. My homeport is Halifax.

Peggie Hall wrote in message
...

There are no coastal (or inland) waters in the whole US--east coast,
west coast, or Gulf--in which it's legal to discharge raw untreated
toilet waste directly overboard or dump a tank. So unless you're only
using the the head when you're out to sea at least 3 miles from the
nearest point on the whole US coastline, or it's going through CG
certified Type I MSD (device that treats waste before discharging it
overboard) first, you're discharging it overboard illegally.

Don White wrote:
I guess we're a bit behind you in our regulations.
I sail in Nova Scotia waters. My homeport is Halifax.

NOW you tell me! Canadian coastal waters are the only ones that are
behind us...the Great Lakes wouldn't be "no discharge" if Canada hadn't
insisted on it some 30+ years ago...long before we had ANY marine
sanitation laws.

Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327

http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html

Hi Don (and anyone else that interested), in case you haven't heard, we may
see some changes to that here soon in the Bras d'Or Lakes. I quote from a
web site (link included below):

"Canada Shipping Act Designation

Improving the water quality in the Bras d'Or Lake is a population health
issue that is being addressed by a number of people and organizations
through different projects and initiatives.

One of these initiatives is a proposal that the Bras d'Or Lake be designated
a non-discharge zone for boating sewage. This means that the dumping of
sewage from boats could be prohibited possible as early as the fall of
2004 - if the application is approved."

For further information: http://pitupaq.ca/designation/


"Don White" wrote in message
...
I guess we're a bit behind you in our regulations.
I sail in Nova Scotia waters. My homeport is Halifax.

Peggie Hall wrote in message
...

There are no coastal (or inland) waters in the whole US--east coast,
west coast, or Gulf--in which it's legal to discharge raw untreated
toilet waste directly overboard or dump a tank. So unless you're only
using the the head when you're out to sea at least 3 miles from the
nearest point on the whole US coastline, or it's going through CG
certified Type I MSD (device that treats waste before discharging it
overboard) first, you're discharging it overboard illegally.

Oh Oh!
I saw a table set up at the Halifax Boat Show a couple of years ago that
indicated you were headed that way.
I can honestly say I have never seen sewage pumped from a boat. I wouldn't
know where to find a pumpout station in this area. The Mirage I sailed on
had the Y valve, but the hose to the holding tank was cutoff and the tank
sealed.
Funny...I always smelled something odd down below and when looking at
slightly translucent holding tank could see
it was about 1/8 filled. I wonder if fumes leaked out on occasion?

Ken Heaton wrote in message
...
Hi Don (and anyone else that interested), in case you haven't heard, we
may
see some changes to that here soon in the Bras d'Or Lakes. I quote from a
web site (link included below):

"Canada Shipping Act Designation

Improving the water quality in the Bras d'Or Lake is a population health
issue that is being addressed by a number of people and organizations
through different projects and initiatives.

One of these initiatives is a proposal that the Bras d'Or Lake be
designated
a non-discharge zone for boating sewage. This means that the dumping of
sewage from boats could be prohibited possible as early as the fall of
2004 - if the application is approved."

For further information: http://pitupaq.ca/designation/


"Don White" wrote in message
...
I guess we're a bit behind you in our regulations.
I sail in Nova Scotia waters. My homeport is Halifax.

Peggie Hall wrote in message
...

There are no coastal (or inland) waters in the whole US--east coast,
west coast, or Gulf--in which it's legal to discharge raw untreated
toilet waste directly overboard or dump a tank. So unless you're only
using the the head when you're out to sea at least 3 miles from the
nearest point on the whole US coastline, or it's going through CG
certified Type I MSD (device that treats waste before discharging it
overboard) first, you're discharging it overboard illegally.

The boat I sail on has a pitiful little 12 gallon Jabsco holding tank that
came with the boat (1973). It isn't connected, the hose from the toilet
goes straight to the thru hull. The general consensus around here is that
there aren't enough pumping stations on the lakes. There are pumpouts at
Baddeck, Iona/Grand Narrows & St. Peters. It won't be a problem for our
Great Lakes visitors and for most American visitors, but it's certainly
going to be a problem for our east coast Canadian visitors.

"Don White" wrote in message
...
Oh Oh!
I saw a table set up at the Halifax Boat Show a couple of years ago that
indicated you were headed that way.
I can honestly say I have never seen sewage pumped from a boat. I wouldn't
know where to find a pumpout station in this area. The Mirage I sailed on
had the Y valve, but the hose to the holding tank was cutoff and the tank
sealed.
Funny...I always smelled something odd down below and when looking at
slightly translucent holding tank could see
it was about 1/8 filled. I wonder if fumes leaked out on occasion?

Ken Heaton wrote in message
...
Hi Don (and anyone else that interested), in case you haven't heard, we
may
see some changes to that here soon in the Bras d'Or Lakes. I quote from
a
web site (link included below):

"Canada Shipping Act Designation

Improving the water quality in the Bras d'Or Lake is a population health
issue that is being addressed by a number of people and organizations
through different projects and initiatives.

One of these initiatives is a proposal that the Bras d'Or Lake be
designated
a non-discharge zone for boating sewage. This means that the dumping of
sewage from boats could be prohibited possible as early as the fall of
2004 - if the application is approved."

For further information: http://pitupaq.ca/designation/