On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:33:37 GMT, Peggie Hall
wrote:


I would love to, but it's a bit late to plan for this coming January.
Maybe in '05. Are there seminars at the Toronto show?

Peggie

There's presentations and booths...seemingly hundreds of booths. Check
out the folks behind this website


http://www.discoverboating.com/boats...,0,65,0&bhqs=1

and they will no doubt get you (or your publisher!) exhibitors'
information.

Conversely, contact Nautical Mind. They have been known to sponsor
authors giving speeches/seminars at local yacht clubs and so on.
Toronto's got five million people in it and a very large lake that's
one big no-discharge zone. Personally, 90% of the stuff I see is Groco
or Jabsco with a few Par models. I would love to hear about a wider
range of heads, hose options, holding tank options and so on.

I find most marine heads in Lake Ontario boats to be cheaply built and
a little suspect. Given that the Great Lakes range from "pump-outs
most places" to "you are completely on your own" (i.e. the Upper Great
Lakes), I would suspect a lot of Canadians would like to hear your
thoughts on plumbing under sail.

R.

On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 22:11:12 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:

I guess we're a bit behind you in our regulations.
I sail in Nova Scotia waters. My homeport is Halifax.

Didn't I hear that Halifax is FINALLY getting a raw-sewage treatment
plant. Instead of spewing it directly into the harbour, I mean. Man,
high tide there must take on a whole new meaning.

Victoria does this crap--pun intended--too, I believe. It's
disgraceful.

R.

On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 22:11:12 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:

I guess we're a bit behind you in our regulations.
I sail in Nova Scotia waters. My homeport is Halifax.

Didn't I hear that Halifax is FINALLY getting a raw-sewage treatment
plant. Instead of spewing it directly into the harbour, I mean. Man,
high tide there must take on a whole new meaning.

Victoria does this crap--pun intended--too, I believe. It's
disgraceful.

R.

Peggie Hall wrote:

Yes....any amount you want to name--and would actually pay off.

Too tempting. Ever hear of the Southeast Alaska "donut holes?"

Rick

Peggie Hall wrote:

Yes....any amount you want to name--and would actually pay off.

Too tempting. Ever hear of the Southeast Alaska "donut holes?"

Rick

Rick wrote:
Peggie Hall wrote:

Yes....any amount you want to name--and would actually pay off.


Too tempting. Ever hear of the Southeast Alaska "donut holes?"

Yep. A lack of any enforcement of marine sanitation laws there--even a
total absence of any pumpout facilities--does not change the fact that
federal law prohibits the discharge of raw untreated toilet waste from
vessels in ALL U.S. waters within 3 miles of the coastline. But a lack
of any enforcement doesn't make it legal.

The applicable federal law is 40 CFR 140.1-5, btw. You can read it at
http://www.setonresourcecenter.com/4...0/wcd0006d.asp

Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html

Rick wrote:
Peggie Hall wrote:

Yes....any amount you want to name--and would actually pay off.


Too tempting. Ever hear of the Southeast Alaska "donut holes?"

Yep. A lack of any enforcement of marine sanitation laws there--even a
total absence of any pumpout facilities--does not change the fact that
federal law prohibits the discharge of raw untreated toilet waste from
vessels in ALL U.S. waters within 3 miles of the coastline. But a lack
of any enforcement doesn't make it legal.

The applicable federal law is 40 CFR 140.1-5, btw. You can read it at
http://www.setonresourcecenter.com/4...0/wcd0006d.asp

Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html

Yes, Halifax is getting a series of three sewage treatment plants to finally
treat its sewage. Sydney, where I live, is getting one as well, should be
up and running by next fall. Low tide on a hot still day tends to be worse
than "high tide". ;-)
--
Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
Cape Breton Island, Canada
kenheaton AT syd DOT eastlink DOT ca

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On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 22:11:12 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:

I guess we're a bit behind you in our regulations.
I sail in Nova Scotia waters. My homeport is Halifax.

Didn't I hear that Halifax is FINALLY getting a raw-sewage treatment
plant. Instead of spewing it directly into the harbour, I mean. Man,
high tide there must take on a whole new meaning.

Victoria does this crap--pun intended--too, I believe. It's
disgraceful.

R.

Yes, Halifax is getting a series of three sewage treatment plants to finally
treat its sewage. Sydney, where I live, is getting one as well, should be
up and running by next fall. Low tide on a hot still day tends to be worse
than "high tide". ;-)
--
Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
Cape Breton Island, Canada
kenheaton AT syd DOT eastlink DOT ca

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...
On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 22:11:12 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:

I guess we're a bit behind you in our regulations.
I sail in Nova Scotia waters. My homeport is Halifax.

Didn't I hear that Halifax is FINALLY getting a raw-sewage treatment
plant. Instead of spewing it directly into the harbour, I mean. Man,
high tide there must take on a whole new meaning.

Victoria does this crap--pun intended--too, I believe. It's
disgraceful.

R.

Peggie Hall wrote:

Yep. A lack of any enforcement of marine sanitation laws there--even a
total absence of any pumpout facilities--does not change the fact that
federal law prohibits the discharge of raw untreated toilet waste from
vessels in ALL U.S. waters within 3 miles of the coastline. But a lack
of any enforcement doesn't make it legal.


Wrong again. It is not a matter of enforcement at all. The "donut holes"
are areas that are more than 3 miles from the nearest land. They are
shoreward of the boundary line, within the waters of the State of Alaska
and well within what anyone would call the "inside passage."

It is perfectly legal to pump sewage in these areas. Law was recently
made to prohibit large passenger vessels (read cruise ships) from
dumping untreated sewage in these areas but for other than commercial
passenger vessels above a certain size it is perfectly legal.

As a matter of fact you may sail from just north of Seattle all the way
to Glacier Bay on the inside passage and never break the law so long as
you observe the location of the donut holes while in SE Alaska.

Rick