Seldom, if EVER, do you "get what you pay for".


I recently got a pair of BoatUS Fujinon's with compass as a gift. My friend has
a pair of Steiners that cost 549.00, 2 1/2 times the price.
The Fuji's matched the Steiners in nearly everyway and were better ballanced
and easier to hold and focus. The only edge the Steiners had was a less color
fringing at the edge of FOV. At night we gave the edge to the Fujinons for
brighter image.
Anyone who says "you get what you pay for" is not a smart shopper. But I do
like to tell people, "It doesn't pay NOT to pay!" That means you shouldn't buy
the cheapest stuff around.

Capt RB

On 29 Nov 2003 15:29:26 GMT, Bobsprit wrote:

Seldom, if EVER, do you "get what you pay for".


I recently got a pair of BoatUS Fujinon's with compass as a gift. My
snip......
like to tell people, "It doesn't pay NOT to pay!" That means you
shouldn't buy
the cheapest stuff around.

Capt RB


the corolory to my aphorism was tacitly implied, thanks for clarifying
that which obsfucated my succintly honed point.
rick

oh yeah, IMHO you are correct.

"rick" wrote in message
news
On 29 Nov 2003 15:29:26 GMT, Bobsprit wrote:

Seldom, if EVER, do you "get what you pay for".


I recently got a pair of BoatUS Fujinon's with compass as a gift. My
snip......
like to tell people, "It doesn't pay NOT to pay!" That means you
shouldn't buy
the cheapest stuff around.

Capt RB


the corolory to my aphorism was tacitly implied, thanks for clarifying
that which obsfucated my succintly honed point.
rick

oh yeah, IMHO you are correct.

OH GEEZ where is my dictionary?

The point is that these things (GEN 1 units) are all made by a few Russian
companies and unless you get a Gen 2 or 3 all of the Gen 1 units will give
you a similar image quality. The one posted from Harbor Freight is their
own model but it is just a rebranded NZT-1
(http://store.yahoo.com/opticsplanet/atn-nzt1.html). So IMHO get the
cheapest one you can. Just keep in mind that they don't work like on TV
where you can everything like it is day. You will not be able to see the
markers or dock unless you are close to them and it is a full moon. It is
more *like* using the night shot feature on a sony video camera. With that
being said, I like the
(http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=47420)
which is a rebranded Regal Optics Selena NV-3
(http://www.nightvisionstore.com/Rige...lena%20NVB.htm).

mark

On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:18:58 -0500, "rock_doctor"
wrote:
Nice post! Factual, informative, interesting, useful.
But how does HF sell the same item for half price?
$70 vs $140 Amazing...

Brian w

... these things (GEN 1 units) are all made by a few Russian
companies and unless you get a Gen 2 or 3 all of the Gen 1 units will give
you a similar image quality. The one posted from Harbor Freight is their
own model but it is just a rebranded NZT-1
(http://store.yahoo.com/opticsplanet/atn-nzt1.html). So IMHO get the
cheapest one you can. Just keep in mind that they don't work like on TV
where you can everything like it is day. You will not be able to see the
markers or dock unless you are close to them and it is a full moon. It is
more *like* using the night shot feature on a sony video camera. With that
being said, I like the
(http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=47420)
which is a rebranded Regal Optics Selena NV-3
(http://www.nightvisionstore.com/Rige...lena%20NVB.htm).

mark

"Brian Whatcott" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:18:58 -0500, "rock_doctor"
wrote:
Nice post! Factual, informative, interesting, useful.
But how does HF sell the same item for half price?
$70 vs $140 Amazing...

I think they buy in high quantity and don't mark up too much. I have
several of their tools (90 wire welder $99 for example) and find their
products to be quite good. Plus I suspect that since these items are made
in Russia they buy directly from the manufacturer for a reduced rate and
import it themselves while the other venders mark-up and probably buy from
other importers.

good luck,
mark

rock_doctor wrote:
I ... find their
products to be quite good.

I fairly regularly buy from them, but am afraid I'd have to disagree as
to their quality. Their prices can't be beat, but I've had multiple
experiences of products failing very early (drill press, grinder, etc.)
or of their being made of very poor quality metal (hand tools). It
doesn't keep me from doing business with them, but I do so with my eyes
open.
--
Dan Best - (707) 431-1662, Healdsburg, CA 95448
B-2/75 1977-1979
Tayana 37 #192, "Tricia Jean"
http://rangerbest.home.comcast.net/TriciaJean.JPG

some one spent their cruising money on their vocabulary.

Just wondering, If people have to use a dictionary to understand your meaning,
doesn't that defeat the purpose of your rehtoric?

rock_doctor wrote:
I ... find their
products to be quite good.

I fairly regularly buy from them, but am afraid I'd have to disagree as
to their quality. Their prices can't be beat, but I've had multiple
experiences of products failing very early (drill press, grinder, etc.)
or of their being made of very poor quality metal (hand tools). It
doesn't keep me from doing business with them, but I do so with my eyes
open.
--
Dan Best - (707) 431-1662, Healdsburg, CA 95448
B-2/75 1977-1979
Tayana 37 #192, "Tricia Jean"
http://rangerbest.home.comcast.net/TriciaJean.JPG

"Brian Whatcott" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:18:58 -0500, "rock_doctor"
wrote:
Nice post! Factual, informative, interesting, useful.
But how does HF sell the same item for half price?
$70 vs $140 Amazing...

I think they buy in high quantity and don't mark up too much. I have
several of their tools (90 wire welder $99 for example) and find their
products to be quite good. Plus I suspect that since these items are made
in Russia they buy directly from the manufacturer for a reduced rate and
import it themselves while the other venders mark-up and probably buy from
other importers.

good luck,
mark

On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:18:58 -0500, "rock_doctor"
wrote:
Nice post! Factual, informative, interesting, useful.
But how does HF sell the same item for half price?
$70 vs $140 Amazing...

Brian w

... these things (GEN 1 units) are all made by a few Russian
companies and unless you get a Gen 2 or 3 all of the Gen 1 units will give
you a similar image quality. The one posted from Harbor Freight is their
own model but it is just a rebranded NZT-1
(http://store.yahoo.com/opticsplanet/atn-nzt1.html). So IMHO get the
cheapest one you can. Just keep in mind that they don't work like on TV
where you can everything like it is day. You will not be able to see the
markers or dock unless you are close to them and it is a full moon. It is
more *like* using the night shot feature on a sony video camera. With that
being said, I like the
(http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=47420)
which is a rebranded Regal Optics Selena NV-3
(http://www.nightvisionstore.com/Rige...lena%20NVB.htm).

mark